OCT / NOV / DEC 2008 Buddies

Discussion forum for those particularly interested in IVF and embryo transfer including frozen embryo transfer.
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ajdec
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Post by ajdec »

The Barbie thing is cute!! Even if I am pregnant newbie Barbie! lol

Can I just say....This whole waiting to tell people that we are pregnant is 100 times more difficult than the 2ww!!! UGH! I want to tell so badly! And I know we can't...we need to wait and be smart. But oh my goodness..it's just so hard! Blah!
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havbaby1627
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Post by havbaby1627 »

Hello all,

I started my first injection of Lupron this morning. This is my first time at all this so I was quite nervous about it all. My DH injected it for me. I'm like you lovemybaby, I can't look at the needle. When giving blood, I just look away as they go at it. So, it is nice that my DH is able to be here to do this for me/us. We were both pretty nervous about it but, it was fine. It pinched a little then burned/itched a little then I was fine. I went right back to sleep after so, I am sure that helped. Although I did have some crazy dreams. I think that's just one of the side effects they don't mention babyhope. I am hoping that this is how it continues for me during this time. I am sure the Bravelle and Menopur is much more intense but, I am not worrying about that right now. One thing at a time!

To those who gave their sympathies regarding my job: thank you. I appreciate it. I am taking it in stride and looking at the positive side of all this as far as not having to worry about scheduling around work, not having to be concered with getting back to work after the procedure and all that. I truly consider this a blessing is disguise.

Lovemybaby, I am sorry to hear about your DH and how he's been dealing with all this. My DH is the same way. Thankfully though, after I expressed to him that I need him to express a more sensitive side to me during this time, he became more aware of it and has been making a great effort. Maybe you should try talking to your DH about it and telling him how uneasy you are about everything and need his support and kindness in all this, that you understand if he nervous too - my DH was and said he didn't want to talk about anything or express it because what good would it be if there were two nervous wrecks in this - but, I said: as silly as it sounds, it's comforting to know you're concerned. So, it's been better. Hopefully it can be for you guys as well! Hang in there!!! :D

Kas101, I actually just got the pic from a site but, since you asked, I was curious too so I googled it and found a website that has a bunch of different stuff: http://www.cafepress.com/ivfbaby/823373 - they have some cute/funny stuff including the onesie I had posted. :)

I hope everyone is doing well...sprinkling baby dust everywhere for everyone hoping for our prayers to be answered!!

And remember: I can do everything through him who gives me strength. Philippians 4:13

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Post by karenvancouverisland »

hi ajdec.... i don't think you have to wait to tell people you're pregnant. there are no 'rights and wrongs' on this. it's up to you and your personal choice, and what you're heart and gut tells you to do.

my personal experience is that if i DONT tell people, then i don't get to celebrate it, and then i don't get support later if it doesn't work out. i had a m/c last time, and was grateful to not have to go through that alone. it would have been a bigger nightmare for me if i had to pretend the m/c hadn't happened. of course, i didn't tell everyone, but important people in my world knew.

i hope it doesn't sound like i'm trying to push my way of doing things on others, i'm presenting my personal perspective..and i believe we each need to do things our own way. you used the word 'can't', and i think you can do whatever you want to do. all the best, karen
38 yrs. DOR, TTC since '04, recommended DE but didn't listen
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ajdec- If it were me I wouldn't tell a soul yet. I hear that you shouldn't tell until the secod trimester. I guess DH has to know but if I had it my way I wouldn't tell anyone. I told the world after we saw two 120 bpm heartbeats at my first ultrasound. I was scared of ectopic or blighted ovum, empty sac, missing head whatever. I don't mean to scare you but it happened to me.

So, after the first ultrasound my doc said it was safe to tell the world and we had nearly 100% chance that we would bring home a baby in March. I wasn't to tell anyone of twins because there is vanishing twin and sometimes both don't make it. Anway we told the world and those people told the others. Everyone that knew me knew we were expecting.

Then on my next ultrasound both babies had died. So we had to tell everyone which was the most painful experience. The people we didn't tell that found out about it through the grapevine called months later wondering how big I was getting and when I was due. I didn't tell them I miscarried because I didn't know they knew in the first place. I certainly hadn't told them, nor my DH. Thankfully nobody bought anything for me but I had a hand me down rocker that was being delivered that Saturday. I am glad it isn't gathering dust in my house right now.

To me a BFP is almost as terrifying as a BFN. I would rather get a BFN and try agan than waste another half year of my life getting back to normal. Sorry, I am tainted. If it doesn't work out or I miscarry again, I don't have to further explain my emotional pain. I don't have to deal with any expectations. With my struggles so far I don't want to be in that situation ever again. This is my way of preventing it.

I understand your excitement. It depends on your situation. I would have to tell my coworkers in case they walked in on me puking at my desk or if there was a change in job description due to your situation.

I think Karen said its ok to tell those close to you because they are there to support you if something goes wrong. My mom possibly would do that but the neighbors she told certainly didn't. Some peeps can't keep a secret.

I am very independent and don't need others nosiness aka support. What I learned the hard way is that people don't know how to act, what to say or do. I learned who of my friends had miscarriages and they sent flowers and cards etc. I didn't want to talk about it, dealing with postartum depression and spreading that news. I say its an eggshell for you to decide how to walk upon.

Sorry, this is the twinged side, I am sure someone else will pipe in and tell you how wonderful it was to share early on...perhaps it is good to talk to someone about it, hopes, dreams, symptoms etc. Just be weary of who they tell as there are no secrets among family/friends. It came back to bite me. I am telling nobody of IVF for this reason.

I am sure your first u/s will be fine and perhaps you will want to tell the world at that point. I plan to not tell until I start showing.
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Post by prayin4BFP »

Just joined here...started BCP today and will start injectables in 3 weeks after my bloodwork and sono. We are hoping for ER at the beginning of December. Then it will be ICSI, PGD and a day 5 transfer. Seems so far away...
This is my first IVF cycle so I know I will have lots of questions and support especially when I have to give myself that first injection! It will be nice to talk to people who know exactly what I am going through.
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Post by not hopeless yet »

Hi prayin4bfp-
Looks like you and I are doing the exact same thing! I started bcps last Fri and will start injections in about 3 weeks. We will also be doing a 5dt so we'll have to compare notes. Ie. what drugs will you be injecting? what dose? how the follies are growing? how you're feeling? It'll be exciting and frightening at the same time! :)
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Post by prayin4BFP »

Yes well I was an emotional wreck on the way back from the RE. Part of me wanted to cry the other part wanted to be happy. I am excited but I am also worried. I am 40 and I know there are alot of risks. But this is what we have been waiting for...to finally be at a point we could start our IVF cycle and here we are! DH said maybe we will have a special Christmas present this year...I hope and pray thats the case for me and everyone one else on our schedule. :)
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Post by ajdec »

Babyhope & Karen - I think you both have very valid points. I know that we don't have to not tell...but DH is really being adament about not telling until like mid-December.

I have mixed emotions about it. While I cannot even begin to imagine having to tell people that you've lost a preganancy, I also can't imagine not having those I love as a support network. That's the main reason I told my mom. I talked to DH and basically said look, if we miscarry, I'm not going to get through that on my own...and I do not want my mom finding out we were pregnant that way. She isn't telling anyone...and understands that it's early and there is risk.

I think DH and I at least agree to wait until 8 weeks...but he'd prefer more like 12 and I'm pushing for 9-10. I guess we'll have to talk about it and try to come to an agreement. I think we will feel like we will have more info to make a decision once I have my first scan on Monday.

The fact remains, no pregnancy is safe at any "week." And while of course the risk is higher the first trimester, it's so incredibly hard to not share such wonderful news with those you love. I'm meeting one of my girlfriends tonight to catch up...and it's so incredibly difficult not saying anything. Yet...I do have two friends who know...one because she had to be our driver home after our ER and sperm aspiration (since we both had anesthesia) and the other knows because she and her husband were trying at the same time and it just sort of happened that she knew. So..a couple of people in my world do know...which I guess I should be thankful for!

I definitely appreciate your feedback though...it's always so helpful and interesting to hear different view points! And in the end, I know it's a personal decision that DH and I have to make.
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Post by JDC »

Karen Hi! I'm so glad for you and your four that fertilized! To me four is a great number and nothing to be disappointed about! Good luck at transfer!
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Post by karenvancouverisland »

hi ladies!!! excellent news! lab called, out of my four- 2 of them are "picture perfect", and the other 2 are "good"

WOOHOOOOOOO!!! I'M STOKED.. i feel good about this..i felt so hormonal the last couple days before ER that i figured something good had to be happening....

they plan to transfer the 2 best in tomorrow, and freeze the other two.. they asked me what i wanted and i said "why not 3?".. the tech asked why, and i said - i'm just desperate for 1 of them to take and to not lose any in freezing. she explained the risks of triplet pregnancy..

anyways, i'm so happy and grateful for everyone's kind words.

havebaby1627, prayin4BFP and lovemybaby- i just want to offer some encouragement on the 'needle' front..it'll be ok. you'll get used to it. i was terrified, horrified..to the point that i fainted after doing the first injection a year ago. well after that experience (i cut my head open when i fell and vomited profusely afterwards)...i figured it couldn't get any worse!! :D

and y'know what, it was just fine after that.. giving an injection into fatty tissue is so much easier than any bloodwork- no veins involved. most of them don't hurt at all. and at worst, it stings. the biggest thing for me was the mental barrier. i've become a pin-cushion.. my best piece of advice- make sure you keep breathing while injection is being done

jdc- nice to hear from you..how are you holding up? getting close to stims hey? mid nov right?

ajdec..yes you'll find the right answer for you in terms of sharing. have fun with your girlfriend tonight :D . i just got home from coffee with one of my best friends. it was awesome, she's struggling as her brother just died of drug addiciton. so we're very supportive to each other. she is a great role-model to me, as she's been through alot of shit..and she's very resilient. she offered to donate me an egg..but she's 37 and my clinic won't let her.. she wanted to phone them to try and convince them she could..now that's friendship

hey chris...should we call each other 'VB' from now on (veteran barbie)..he he. it makes me laugh
38 yrs. DOR, TTC since '04, recommended DE but didn't listen
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Gina How was your appointment?? Did you get to reduce your follistim? I noticed from your sig that you are a high responder!! How much follistim did you take in your previous cycles???

Welcome to Bonne & Praying4BFP Glad to have you onboard... praying, i start BCP's next week so our cycles hould be pretty close together...

Thinking of Sloan, Melissa, Wonderce in the 2WW!!!!

WonderceHope you are holding up!!! My fave organic snacks right now are a trail mix from WHole foods, wholewheat bagel spred with org peanut butter (with grapes on the side) or slices of apple and cheese (together) everything is organic and (in varying degrees) healthy but definately delish!!!!!

Havbaby Thanks for the website, i loved it!!!

Karen Good luck with the ET tomorrow, hope everything goes really smoothly and sounds like you have some excellent grade embies there.... I think of you everytime i reach for the DHEA!!!!!

To Have Fun Yeah, i know it can be really tough keeping that PMA going ALL the time, and i go through lows with this on a regular basis, a lot of the time i think its hormonal and i'm so sick of feeling p****d off.... Your barbie story made me laugh so hard, though - So, Order those meds, and lets work our asses off to be pregnant veteran barbies by Christmas!!! :D Its true i DO THINK I COULD RUN MY OWN CYCLE BETTER THAN THAN MY RE. Cant wait till i am preg veteran barbie-Hmmm will sit at home with swollen belly dispensing advice all day long to all the newbies :wink:
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Post by gina1234 »

so here is the update i went for B/W & my level for estrogen is 380 & i have only been on meds for 2days at 200iu of follistim so they lowered my dose of follistim to 175iu tonight (10/29) & tomorrow (10/30) i go in again for B/W & U/S

kas101 in my previous cycle i started with 225iu of follistim for 2 days & then on day 3 i was at 200iu i did that for another couple of days i was only on follistim for about 8 days & ganirelix, then i had ER & 3days after that i had ET so that pretty much it...i hope u are doing well thanks for asking about my appointment today when the nurse did my b/w i saw the needle & almost passed out yikes anyway i am in good spirits

Sloan, Melissa, Wonderce good luck in your 2ww here some more baby dust

Karen goodluck tomorrow on your ET

karenvancouverisland congrats on your 2 perfect embroys

havbaby1627 i just wanted to see how u are feeling hope u are doing great

anyways ladies wish me luck tomorrow i always think about u all i am spreading baby dust & also big hugs

gina :)
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Post by mrscutter »

Hi ladies,
I start my stims on Friday. I am excited. Even though Im given just a ten percent chance, Im hoping Im one of those lucky ten. Someone has to be right? I am in the over forty group. I am wondering what protocol you ladies are on. I see alot of people on Lupuron. Im not on that. I am doing 450 follistim a day. Im doing progesterone with oil. Antibiotics, ganerelix, low dose and high dose HCG and medrol. Anyone else taking these. Good luck to all.

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Post by NY4thtry »

hello all

I dont know why i didnt find the IVF Barbie thing so funny.. i think i am just kind of over the IVF thing..

Second US today had 11 follies but one is already a bit big so will probably fall off the top end.. Another tomorrow.. Dr says looslike friday trigger for Sunday ER..

Karen i also am so hormonal feel like i can cry at drop of a hat.. hope thats a good sign..

Hope everyone else doing ok..

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Post by karenvancouverisland »

gina- glad they're watching you so closely..can't wait to hear about you u/s tomorrow- go follies go!!

rhonda- sounds like your protocal is similar to mine, just different brands..i did 450 /day of gonal F (pure FSH, which i believe follistim is too), then added in cetrotide and luveris (which are different variations of ganiralex).. i did no lupron or any other down-reg..as they see no point with me as a low responder/ have diminished ovarian reserve.

i also started stims on day 3 after getting AF..is this similar to you? when they do this 'flare', they are trying to take advantage of any natural LH surge. well it worked better this time than ever before, hopefully it will for you, as YES, someone needs to be part of that 10% SO WHY NOT YOU :D

NY- glad to hear of your follie update..that's a good number ..let that big one go for the good of the rest!
38 yrs. DOR, TTC since '04, recommended DE but didn't listen
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