Winter 2010-2011 Cycle Board

[Sweetpea614]

Sunshine12- Not sure if you can jump right back in or not I know my facility makes you wait a cycle. But please don't count yourself out yet. Your beta is still a few days away. Do you have any pregnancy symptoms?

So far I've had absolutely no sypmtoms except heartburn and uncomfortable gas that is just stuck in my chest. It's so umcomfortable.I keep burping but it just doesn't want to come out completely. I have no sore boobs at all. Normally the progesterone makes me have really sore boobs. The last cycle my boobs where sore the day after ER before I started the progesterone. Normally if I'm pregnant my boobs are at least starting to hurt by today or tomorrow.

SDTrying-Yay you'll be PUPO before you know it.

Margi-Good luck in your clinic search.

Nwhiz and Darlene and Carol- Do you guys have any symptoms at all??

Hope everyone has a good day

Kat

[penny100]

Margi - Thanks for that encouragement! Yes it is crazy during the 2 week wait. Fortunately I am off the couch today & back to normal life for the most part. Good luck in choosing a new clinic. We are in the same boat as far as age goes except your a little younger than me. I am 43.

Kristin - I hope you get the answer you are hoping for!!! I can tell you my transfer was Monday & I feel normal as can be. So it's probably good that you are getting signs.

Sunshine - Hang in there. You never know maybe you are cramping for another reason.

Time to get off the couch now & go back to normal life! Wishing everyone a very blessed & beautiful day!!!

[CJinNC]

sweetpea... not a thing. BBs are little tender, but I have had no twinges or that pins and needles feeling I usually get in the 2ww. Not sure if anyone else gets that or not... I think it may be related to the meds, but not sure. Anyway, been feeling fine. I can't count the mild nausea or sore BBs because I always have that this time in my cycle. The only good thing I can say is that the one cycle I was pregnant before, I had no feelings either, except some AF like cramps at 7 dpo - I know because we are admitted my FIL into the hospital that Sunday and I felt them and was like "it can't be here yet"... then nothing until my bfp the day we buried him the following Thursday. It could have been that I was distracted by everything going on. So I am hoping that feeling "nothing" means "something"... but again, not holding out any hope! LOL

I hope a few of us in here get lucky this month... and soon!

[Sweetpea614]

Carol- I get nauseaus too in the 2WW during a normal cycle and I always get really sore boobs by 7 or 8 dpo.(I'm 7dpo ER today) I have had a little cramping off and on but I've read that it's from the progesterone, it's actually listed as a side effect on my prescription description that came with mine. Normally the crampy after ET is much worse than it has been though. Hopefully our lack of symptoms is a good sign. My girlfriend was pregnant with twins and had no symptoms at all and when she went for her beta is was 476. This 2ww wait is killer. When is your beta?

Fingers crossed we get some BFP's around here

[riogirl71]

Margi - wow! you came back in style with your blinkies my friend! I love it! I can't wait to see your list and thank you so much for you very kind words! I think you should wait and do a fresh cycle at your new super clinic! Margi, it would probably be goo to have some of your tests redone especially if you have been on DHEA after a break. I think I had prolactin, FSH, TSH and E2 on cycle day 2 or 3. Have you done a HSG?

Lou I am pretty sure the follies keep growing, I can't wait for your results at ER on Friday!

Sunshine12 - don't give up the PMA just yet!

SDtrying - praying for your SIL! So glad you have dates and yes please come join us soon!

Tammy - let us know how BS is and what you decided on protocol!

[CJinNC]

I'm not planning on a beta since its a natural cycle. So I just have to wait and see!

[leorira11]

Rio - thanks! I happen to think we are decent looking. Not supermodels, but not atrocious! I'm hoping the kids get my nose though... yeah, we are Jewish, but do we have to have big noses?

Hope - part of my problem is that I've suffered from major depression for years. The trick is figuring out what is depression (that is abnormal and can be fixed with drugs) and what is just stress/disappointment from the IVF. It's not very clear. My therapist is a cognitive behavior specialist - so we are working on different coping mechanisms, which I find really helpful. At the same time, if my meds are off, no amount of relaxing/meditating/etc will help. Yes, getting pregnant again is fantastic (I remember the feeling from when I got pregnant in August - - I felt so much better), but at the same time, there might be more than that happening now. UGH.------------ try not to worry about the ER. Yeah, it's surgery, but it's really minor and out-patient. I was FREAKING out for the first ER I had, but now I know it's not so bad. The anesthesia is the scariest/most dangerous part. Don't lie about your weight!

Tiger - I'm just curious and nosy - so ignore if this is offensive. My husband and I have discussed donor sperm/IUI instead of IVF/ICSI (I think SD will be our next step if we decide to stop the IVF). My first thought was asking a family member. My thinking was that if we needed eggs - my sister would be the first person I asked and she has told me that she would happily donate (or surrogate for us - we don't need either but it's so nice to know how much she is willing to do for us!). So when we talked about donor sperm, I immediately said that we should ask DH's brother/father (his only two immediate male family members). That way, the baby could look like him, act like him, whatever. Both his brother and his dad said NO WAY IN HELL. They both think it would be too weird. But I don't understand way. Obviously, I'm not asking them to have sex with me (we would do artificial insemination). We are related, but only through my marriage with David. The child would 100% be David's, not theirs. In my mind, them donating sperm would be like my sister donating eggs - which NOONE thinks is weird (it's been discussed too). WTF? Is it because my sister wouldn't have to masturbate to donate? Have you ever considered asking you DH's male relatives to donate. That way, the baby would be as genetically similar to your husband as possible.

Lou-- TRIGGER! yay! Good luck!

Kat - the side effects of progesterone are awful. I feel constipated just thinking about it!

KatieB - my DH and I always talked about adopting, especially the idea of adopting a special needs kid later in life (ie, after our 'own' kids were grown). My own mother is adopted, which is what sparked that interested in me. I would love to adopt, but given how young we are and that this would be our first 'take-home' baby, I'm getting really 'picky' about the child I would adopt. We want as young a child as possible, and aren't really open to the idea of foster kids or taking a special needs kid. I know that sounds "politically incorrect", but it's how we feel. We have applied for adoption through the government system (the only way you can domestically adopt here in Israel). The wait list is about SIX YEARS. sigh. In any case, we want to be on that list! We've been told that we could be bumped up on the list because we are so young and trying for a first child, but 2 months after submitting our paperwork we are still waiting for a call to schedule our first appt with the social worker, so I'm not too optimistic. Your story is amazing! ---- congrats on losing the weight - and feel better!

Ryann- I know exactly how you feel. I had HORRIBLE hyperemesis while I was pregnant. Literally vomiting 10 times a day and not keeping anything down but water. I couldn't function. Everytime I complained, people would respond "but isn't this what you wanted?".... what BS! Yes, I know how much you want those babies, but being miserable SUCKS! I'm so sorry you are feeling poorly! Don't feel guilty about it at all!

Penny/Darlene- some of the acronyms are really cryptic! AF always confused me (stands for "Aunt Flo" ie your period). The 31st isn't so far away now! For those of us waiting to start, Feb seems so close finally. For those waiting for pregnancy test results, the 31st is an eternity away!

Lauren 1711 - I have no idea what it means to stim longer, but I hate not knowing, so I feel your pain! Hopefully things will go really well and you'll trigger right after the weekend. How is your blood count level? I know that was your problem last time.

Kristin (krcaja) - Cramping can mean anything! We all know how you feel - you try to examine any little thing for a clue. But cramping can be a good sign (implantation) or a bad sign. No way to know! Sorry! Just a few more days until you know for sure!

Sherry (hot green tea) - I hear ya. I try so hard to get excited, even though I want to protect myself from more heartache. I told my husband that if we have another loss, I might want to kill myself. I just can't deal with much more. But all we can do is keep going. Sorry you are finding it hard to get excited. Just remember, those embryos don't care if you are excited or not! There is no need to get excited - but try to find something positive to focus on, just for your own well being.

Amanda 1979 - I've always done antagonist (cetrocide) cycles, so I don't know what the difference is like. But just wishing you good luck!

sunshine 12 - just remember that early pregnancy and getting your period feel really similar! When I was pregnant, I kept having the feeling that AF was really close - but she wasn't. I hope you get surprising good news. As for when you can cycle again, technically, you can cycle immediately. I always have to wait a month, because I have to get my insurance approval through again. Sigh.

Margi ---- oh, how I missed you! Thanks for the penguin blinkie! No singing at the moment, but I have auditions again in a few weeks. We are doing Rodgers & Hammerstein's Carousel. The performances are in June. I'm on the fence about being in it. Part of me loves to perform, but part of me wants a break. It's crazy to work full time and perform - I run from work to rehearsal at least 3 times a week. I miss David! So maybe I'll take a show off and focus on myself. Or maybe I'll audition - we'll see!--- no advice about clinics, sorry. I know that CCRM gets a lot of good stories. (maybe ask lynniecat, she seems to have used several clinics)

SD -I hear ya too. I hate how I am on some of the meds (not progesterone for me, but the stims make me nuts) We are getting super close to February! I hope your stimming is going well!

Kynlee - Feb 6th is so soon! It's nice that your clinic can accomodate your work schedule. I make my work schedule accomodate my cycles! My boss was fired about 6 months ago, and I got her job. So now I'm the boss! (technically, the CEO is my boss, but he doesn't care about this kind of day-to-day stuff). Thank goodness!

Carol --- when will you POAS? I'm also an evil POAS-pusher, but without the cool blinkies that Margi uses!

AFM - Nothing new to report. I guess that's good news. I'm eagerly counting down..... Monday I have my pipelle endo biopsy.... next Saturday (1.29) I don't take a BCP.... when I get my period, I go for SnS on CD3 and hopefully start stims.... SOON!

of course, I'm freaking out that I'll only get my heart broken again... but what else can I do? I've been listening to Kellie Coffey's song "Walk On" and it's really speaking to me.....

Cryin’ comes easy, out here in the dark
‘cause the hardest part is the fear of not knowin’
I ain’t got nothin’ left that I could lose
The only thing that I know I can do
Walk On , Walk On
Don’t let this sad set-back break me
Walk On, Walk On
See where this detour will take me
Well I’ve been beaten down on the ground
But I’ll pick myself up and dust-off
and Walk On

(btw - if you don't know her other song "I would die for that" - look it up on YouTube and prepare for a good cry...)


THE LIST:




-swaters2815 (Stephanie) - starting mid-January
-kbillsy – IUI 12.4, Beta BFN - saving up money to do it again!
-jmbella (Jenn) - waiting to start late-Jan/early-Feb
-Sunshine1576 - PLAN: Lap surgery, 2 rounds of IUI and then IVF in June (if not already pregnant!)
-deftonesmo - hysteroscopy 1.21
-Kynlee - AF started 1.18 - start Lupron Feb 6th - approx ER March 15
-TammyS – beta 12.13, chemical , trying again! AF is here! baseline on 1.20, start stims on 1.22, approx ER 2.1
-margi26 – deciding on a dr
-anton - end of Feb


-leorira11 (Leora, aka listmistress!) - stopping approx 1.29 to get a period to start stims!
- Krisnjer - AF is here! on OCP, Suppression check on 1.19, ER/ET early Feb
-JustSoLost - on OCP - starting in Jan, approx ER/ET in early Feb, starting Lurpon 1.24, approx ER 2.14
-wannabeamum (Samantha) - AF is here! next scan - 1.31
-hotgreentea (Sherry) - suppression check on 1.18



-LYD10, waiting for AF, starting Lupron on 1.15 and stims on 1.29
- andrea3821 - COME ON, AF!
-nwquiz - BFN - waiting for next AF for another IUI



-NancyB - FET delayed to April
-andsahsa - FET, next appt 12.21
-Katie1231 - miscarriage 12.28 - FET 2.15



-jkulab – start Lupron 12.2, start stims 12.24? - polypectomy on 12.21
-SDtrying#2 - ER/ET 2.7/2.11



-lauren1171 - start stims 1.9, approx ER 1.23
- lou71 (Lou) - started stims 1.11, ER on 1.21
-Trusting (Amanda) - started stims 1.10
-amanda1979 on Lupron, start stims 1.12 - delayed because of a stupid cyst....started stims 1.14
-HopeIsAllIHave (Ashley) - on OCP - starting Lupron on 1.6 and stimming on 1.15
-Tiger04 - AF is here - after baseline on 1.17, starting Femera for IUI on 1.25/26
-Kimber Baby - starting Lupron 1.3 - started stims 1.18



-lynniecat - started stims 1.4 - ER 1.16



-CjofNC (Carol) – Waiting to do IUI w/ injectables or IVF - for now, 2ww of regular cycle (hoping for a miracle!)
-Sunshine 12 - ER 1.8, ET 1.12 - beta 1.22
-krcaja (Kristin) - ER 1.11, ET 1.16, beta 1.28
-Sweetpea614 (Kat) - ER 1.14, ET 1.16, beta 1.28
-Penny100 (Darlene) - ET 1.17, beta 1.31




-anacris (Nov) – FET 11.29, Beta 12.11 = 444, u/s on 12.28 - one happy, healthy baby!
-rypell1985 (Ryann) – start Lupron 10.11, lining check 11.29, FET 12.3, Beta 12.15 = 275, beta #2 = 824 - u/s = twins!
-annashope – natural IUI 12.2, Beta = 247, Beta#2 = 725 - one happy, healthy baby!
-kildean23 – FET 12.14, beta 12.27 = 565!, 2nd beta = 1315!, u/s on 1.6 - 2 sacs! next u/s 1.31
-taxcplforivf (Ginger) – start stims 12.4, ER 12.15, ET 12.20, beta 12.29 = 68!, beta #2 - 1466!, u/s 1.17
-BakersBaby (Kelly) – start stims 12/3, ER 1.13, ET 12.16, beta 12.30 = 365!, beta #2 1.7 = 3300, u/s one happy, healthy baby! OB visit on 2.2
- Karian - SURPRISE SPONTANEOUS BFP! beta = 101!, beta #2 - 566, u/s 1.18 - one happy, healthy baby!
-kariberri517 - 3dt on 12.10, beta on 12.27 = 392, 12.29 = 472, 12.30 = 576... waiting....


-Krys – started estrogen 11.11, FET 11.30, Beta 12.14- BFN
-Cshell717 (Mishell) – start stims 11.22, ER 12.3 w/ ET 12.6, beta 12.20 -BFN
-x0Heather0x – FET, b/w 12.3, u/s 12.10, FET 12.16, beta 12.28 - BFN
-Riya - beta on 1.7 BFN
-Jamiep03 - ET 12.27, beta 1.9 = 21.8, chemical

[applejar]

I need some help with all the abbreviations on this post. I'm new to the IVF would. We just started talking about it as an option, so I'm just trying to get some feedback from women who really did this, not just the doctor who can make anything sound good. Thanks!

[riogirl71]

Leora - you cracked me up with your post today. WTF is right about women being willing to donate eggs but men can't donate some spermies? I would definitely go with the brother, it is shown now that older man's sperm is also contributing factor for some genetic issues. I think it is a fabulous idea. We talked about DS before and we actually realy wanted someone we know, because of family medical history. So imagine going to a friend and saying hey can you spare some spermies? there is a guy at DH's work whose son looks exactly like our son does and I always thought if we could not afford another IVF, I would ask him to be the DS for an IUI. Don't know what his wife would think, but then again she is this cuite pie of a skinny girl who gets pregnant on the drop of a dime! Anyway, I think the brother and same genetic material idea is fantastic! I hear you on the special needs child, my in laws adopted a girl with cerebral palsy. They have struggled a lot and she is now 40 but acts 13, yep, like a teenage girl who is angry at everything. So it has its challenges, I could not do it, but I applaud people who do.

[jkulab]

Hi all! i know i've been away for awhile. my last polypectomy was 12/30, and by the way, it's a great way to spend new years eve (lol). it took me 5 days to recover from it. i bit my lip during surgery where i had a deep cut inside my mouth and outside on my lip. my lip ballooned up 100 times it's normal size...i refused to see anyone for 5 days!

results of the surgery: no more polyps!!!! i start gonadotopins tomorrow. i never thought i would be excited to give myself injections. i've been waiting to just start the injections for 7 months and 4 surgeries now.

[margi26]

Sunshine12: Still


SD: Sorry about the funk, but glad to hear from you! Stimming next week!...excellent. Your BFP is coming soon!!

Mellow: Thanks for your well wishes! And I can’t speak for all the ladies, but I for one appreciate the crashing from all of you preggo ladies! It gives me hope and reminds me of what lies ahead. Take great care of yourself and your little beans.

Speaking of which...Sonya! Thanks for checking in and for the referral...although my insurance won’t cover anything outside the US. Believe me, I already checked that one!

Kynlee: Glad that your clinic was willing to work around work. Sometimes those seemingly little things can reduce a lot of stress which can only help!

Lou: Hope that you are feeling good and getting rest for ER tomorrow! We are all here rooting for you...can’t wait to hear your report. Sending grow messages to those few that were not quite mature size.

Kat: Can’t ever be sure about symptoms/no symptoms. How many dpo are you?

Kristen: Are you hanging in there ok today?

Penny/Darlene: Actually, we are the same age Try to keep yourself distracted and enjoy the fact that you are

Carol: I agree...here’s to hoping that a LOT of us get lucky this month and next!!! Feel free to lead the pack off

Leora: As I said yesterday--whatever feeds your soul...staying home more and snuggling with David...doing Carousel...whatever feels "right" to you at the moment. Is yoga popular in Israel? I am going to start going...I have been procrastinating, but there are free classes at my gym so I really have no excuse. Good luck Monday with your biopsy and we will be dancing for your AF right around the corner. Get excited my friend!!! Your BFP is coming...I can’t wait to see you lead the POAS goddesses and show some of the newbies how real POAS addicts behave! I think I am having some withdrawals from not seeing any. You and Tammy will soon be providing I am sure! Oh, and congrats on the promotion 6 mo ago. I got a promotion myself about the same time but they called it a “title change”. A nice way to not have to give me a raise at the same time.

Applejar: Welcome! Feel free to ask any questions at all. This is the best place for support and guidance.

Leora pt 2: Adoption is such a tricky thing. There is absolutely nothing wrong with knowing and being honest about your limits. I have 2 adopted siblings. Now, they are both wonderful people, but my sister had a lot of struggles growing up due to the abuse she suffered as a baby. Not to say those struggles can’t be overcome, but it isn’t as easy as people think. Leora, I think one of your fabulous qualities is your honesty and direct nature. That coupled with your warmth and genuine caring nature. You will be such a wonderful mom--some time very soon!

Rio: I think it might be a bit of the territorial nature that causes men to feel different about sperm than eggs...but, who really knows! Take care of your pregnant self--and thanks for all the advice you give those of us that are just a few steps behind you. It helps to remind us where we will be in just a short while.

Jeib: Sorry the polypectomy was so difficult, but congrats on being polyp-free! And yipee to get to poking yourself...

Nwquiz: Thanks for the suggestion--and for your couch offer. lol. But we are leaning towards Southern California right now...it may be far, but worth the trip!

Tammy: How did it go today with baseline?! What is your protocol?


Lauren...Amanda...Tiger..Ashley...Kimber...

Katie: Very sweet story about your Emilee...just 2 days old! She must have been so precious. How is your back doing? Massage, etc helping?

AFM: Not much new to report. I had an unpleasant visit to the dentist today and am quite sore. Gonna try to get to bed soon. Still feeling motivated and excited. Hope to be making plans very soon.

[CJinNC]

Alright... is there a serenity prayer for infertility? If not, there should be... someone needs to grant me patience, strength and wisdom right now so I don't blow my top. Two years ago an "internet" buddy wanted advice on getting pregnant (you know, opks, food, tests, etc) so I did, and in 2 months she was pregnant. I had to hear about it ALL the time - her asking me advice on being pregnant and complaining about it as well. She ended up spending the last 3 months of her pregnancy in the hospital due to issues that she was told she shouldn't get pregnant again. Anyway... I didn't hear from her in months, then all of a sudden she wants to start TTC again and decides to start hitting me up for more advice... obviously she did it before. She got clomid from her doc, even though I really don't think she needed it. So now, 2 months of TTC she's pregnant again... just found out it was twins! YAY for her.... now she will be coming to me complaining about how difficult it is.... last pregnancy her husband hired maids and a nanny to take care of everything for her. I know she doesn't have alot of friends where she lives, and I try to put on a plastic smile through the keyboard, but deep inside I am torn apart.

I know you all have been there, and I feel I have no room to complain since I do have older children, but damn it still hurts. Yet, as much as I am desperate to give my husband a child, I would be willing to give it up just so that each of you get to experience having your own child at least once. There is no greater thrill in life. I am confident that each of you will find a child in your lives soon.... then in 15 years you will look at that child with piercings, dyed hair, or just that dumb teenager look in his/her eyes so you can say "tell me why again did I spend soooo much money to bring you into this world".... and trust me, no matter HOW much you love that child, and no matter HOW good of a parent you are... there will be days like that! I hope ALL of you get to experience that!

Please forgive me for ranting.....

[penny100]

Help! I can't recall if I did my 3rd vaginal insert today. Do you think it's bad if I did to have 4 or should I wait tomorrow? Any advice would be most appreciated. I guess Progesterone does make you forgetful!

Darlene

[penny100]

That is vaginal insert of Progesterone.

[penny100]

Margi - Have you looked at FCI Illinois? That's who I am going through. Our doctor Dr. Lawrence Jacobs has many awards for break throughs in IVF. We also know of many who have been successful through IVF at FCI. Not sure if they were 40 or over though. I'll know my answer on the 31st.

Sunshine - So hoping you get a BFP! Saying lots of prayers for you!

Darlene