Winter 2010-2011 Cycle Board

[penny100]

Oops it's Laurence Jacobs. I think I need to go to bed. I guess I will take my progesterone. I am pretty sure I did not take it 3 times. Zzzzz......

[sunshine.12]

hey all.. thanks for the support..though i try to act cool, and tried to convince my clinic to take me in for next cycle itself, im secretly hoping that the whole batch of HPTs i bought from amazon are faulty due to some reason, and i will get a big surprise on saturday, though i have never got any surprise good news in my life! im too afraid to go and buy a different brand, as it will break my bubble...so i have decided hold on to my theory and to act pregnant for 2 more days when i have a chance and thanks to progesterone its not very hard..

sweetpea - ahh those symptoms..they are all so confusing..especially with the progesterone..but im praying that yours is the real one..!

margi - good luck in picking a clinic..whichever you pick, it is going to be the lucky one for you!

carol - pls do share that prayer when you figure it out!! we all need one for sure..one of our close friends announced her pregnancy news, yesterday right around the time when i was preparing myself for a BFN..and she got married only 4 months back! talk about timings..!and then a bunch of other friends, who dnt have a clue that we are having difficulty conceiving started asking the same old question, hey look at so and so,they are super fertile and quick, why are you guys not planning after 5 years! dnt you think it is a little too late..cant they take a hint, and avoid such mean questions..or do we have to tell them explicitly, that sorry we can't conceive in a second like you guys..and then they can feel sorry for us, and give 100s of stupid advice to constantly remind us about our issue and make us feel even more miserable..

leoria - yey!! only 1 more week to go..dnt think about the outcome at this time..sending whatever little PMA im left with right now..will send you more as soon as i recharge myself after the weekend..

for all those ladies who are stimming..good luck for some very good quality follicles..one of those eggs can turn into your baby soon!so take a close look at it during you U/S and keep PMA..

and my 2ww friends..i only have 2 days left in the club! i pray that all of you come out of this crazy place in flying colors...super sticky dusts..

[CJinNC]

God grant me serenity to accept the infertility I cannot change and the well-meaning "friends" that do not understand;
courage to try ART, change doctors if necessary, and change friends when they become annoying;
and the wisdom to move on and know there are other ways to get a child...

That works for me..

[nwquiz]

CjinNC- i like the serenity prayer. and sorry about friend. i guess we all hear that alot. even my inlaws put it in my face all the time you have been married 5yrs what are you waiting for? and fil when am i getting my granny. go home so that i can have a granny in sept. lol its like the day am standing in his house is the day am ovulating so he sends us home to bd and bam a baby in the oven. i hate it so much and worse at work all this young girls getting pregnant to keep the men they love from moving out with so and so. we all hear it all and cry in silence. if only i could put a tatoo on my face saying," move am infertile" or IVF suck with no insurance. how does it sound? will people get the message?\
oh well one of the struggles in life one deals with. but we are here to deal with it in silence. so CJ i feel your pain for the sake of friendship offer what little advice you have and keep the plastic smile. all the best
sunshine12-keep the pma. you never know this my be the biggest surpirse you get of a bfp.
all the other good ladies in here i think of you all and wish you all the best in this journey.
oh lou all the best with er today.

[Sweetpea614]

Darlene- I always forget too. I end up looking that prescription bottle how many where prescribed than I find out what day I started taking them and how many I should have taken and subtract that from the amount I started with and if there's an extra I know I didn't take it. I know with tthe progesterone it's very important. A great idea that I just thought of and plan on doing because I keep forgetting if I took my estrace is to get some sort of divider that has 7 seperate compartments. In every compartment put what you need to take for that day. That way you know for sure if you have taken it.

Carol- I totally understand where your coming from. I too have been blessed with children but it doesn't make it any easier for us. Especially when we both have new DH's that have never experienced it and we just want them to experience that joy. And I feel bad for wanting another child when so many haven't even had their first. I had two friends that live across the street from me and we all got pregnant within a week or two of each other and I miscarried but they went on to have theirs and they are always bugging me to come voer and visit the baby's. ARGH!! I love your serenity prayer!!

Margi-I'm 8 dp Egg retrieval. Sorry about the dentist visit.

Lou-Good luck today at the egg retrieval.

I will try and do the rest of personals later. We got a snowstorm today and it was a long ride into work because the roads were bad.


Not too much going on here. I'm super tired and the boobies became tender and swollen overnight. Had a lot of cramping last night too before I went to bed that concerned me but it seems ok today. The heartburn, gas and acid reflux just won't go away no matter how many bland foods I eat or tums.

Kat

Leora-

[lou71]

ER this morning wasn't great but "as expected" per RE. We got 3 eggs. Please pray for me to make it to transfer with something decent. I hope I didn't just waste $15,000. Is there any hope? Somebody gimme a success story. I'm so damn sad.

To top it off, I'm going in to work because I'm so busy & can't afford to take fri, mon, & tue off. Somehow I'll make it.

[krcaja]

Hi Ladies....1 week left until the blood test. I am going crazy!!! So after days of light cramping on and off, I woke up this morning and I'm spotting!!!! I called my nurse and she said unless its heavy and bright red dont worry. It is probably from the baby aspirin and lovenox. Why cant it be implantation bleeding. Today is 5dpt. I've been on websites and everything looks like its implantation. My boobs are feeling nirmal though!! No tingling soreness nothing!! Even with the progesterone! Any words of wisdom.. I might have to break down and POAS. If so, how soon should I?

[Sweetpea614]

Krcaja- Sounds like implantation spotting. Why would it be the lovenox? I've used lovenox and its' never caused me to spot. You're a 5 day transfer so that would make you 10 DPO right? Which would make you right on schedule for implanation bleeding. Tell yourself it's implantation spotting, don't let the nurse get you down. Friging negative nelly nurse.

Lou- Please don't give up hope. Stay positive. My gf had only 3 herself and all 3 implanted and she transferred 2 6 cell embryos on day 3. She has twins that are now 10 months old. You sure are a trooper to go to work. I could not mentally even do work with the drugs still in my system let alone the cramping.

[hotgreentea]

I have been off bcp since Tuesday (spotted lightly and heavily the entire time I was on it) and now I think I am going to have withdrawal bleeding. My stomach is kind of gassy/crampy like when af arrives.

My first Follistim dose is chilling in the fridge and waiting on me to take it Sunday night. Does Menopur need to be refrigerated?

(hugs) to all. I hope this cycle brings immense joy to you ladies!

[Tiger04]

Leora – Not a nosy question at all. We would have loved to do this. However, DH is an only child, so he doesn’t have any brothers. If he did, we absolutely would have asked. DH has 2 male cousins, one of which we are really close with. We have thought a lot about asking him, and we know he would, but we knew that if we went down the road asking DH cousin, then the whole family would know. We haven’t told anyone except my mom and DH mom that we are even considering DS. We haven’t even had a follow up conversation with them telling them that that’s what we are actually doing. I’m fine with it, but DH just is not comfortable sharing it yet. So, that is the only reason we didn’t ask. As I thought about it further, the other sensitive issue is all of the testing. We know his cousin really well, but not his history…I mean who asks about someone’s sex life! He’s married now, but what if he had an STD? I’m also CMV negative, which is somewhat rare, so if he was CMV positive, we couldn’t even have him as a donor. I didn’t want to put him in the position of potentially not being a qualified donor and then feeling bad about it. Is that weird of me? I don’t know, just something I thought about. But, yes, we really would have asked a brother, but he doesn’t have one, so it made that pretty easy. That’s interesting though, I wonder why they thought it was weird. At the end of the day, it’s just genes. Like many of us have commented, it’s nurture vs nature.

Jeib – welcome back! How exciting that you are starting. It looks like you have had some natural BFP’s in the past? I’m curious to know your story and how you got to the IVF journey. I wish you the best of luck!

Margi – I hate the dentist. I really need to schedule a cleaning! I think it’s been more than 6 months! Lots of love to you!

Carol – does your “friend” know what you are going through? I find one-sided relationships are always hard. It would be different if she were a supportor for you as well. If it’s one sided, maybe you should say something? I’m a huge advocate of “meaning what you say and saying it in a nice way.” I find freedom when I address things with friends. Sometimes it’s okay to say you can’t be her support this time around. She will understand. It was like that this year with my sister, who totally understood. She was hosting a baby shower for a good friend of both of us. I love being hostess and planning stuff, so my sister usually asks for my help, or most of the time, I offer, because I love doing it. So, my sister asked if I would help and I said, you know what, it’s just even hard for me to go to a shower and I just don’t think that I’m emotionally capable right now to be a hostess. She totally understood and continued to understand when I was at the shower and had about 4 glasses of wine. She just laughed the whole time, in a good way. We are super strong women, but I’ve realized through this journey that I don’t have to be strong all the time. I shouldn’t have to pretend to not be sad or hurt. Doesn’t mean I’m not happy for others, but I can’t take away or feel guilty for what I’m feeling. I own my feelings and I need to express them. I’m not going to continue to put myself on the back burner to be a cheerleader for everyone else. Okay, now I’m ranting. But, it’s taken me a long time to get here emotionally.

Sunshine – I’m still rooting for you! You never know my friend. 2 more days!

Lou – YOU STILL GOT 3 EGGS! That is better than none my friend. It only takes one and I know you are going to have a fabulous fert report. Please try and keep up your PMA.

KRCAJA- could definitely be implantation. I love POAS, so start any time  I’m terrible and a terrible influence. Can’t help it.


AFM – I’m so terrible with POAS, that I’m already planning. DH and I just booked a trip to DC and we’re going to see our best friends and our cousins, as mentioned above. I realize that I’ll be able to POAS while I’m there! So, I’m definitely packing the sticks. Yup, that’s how crazy I am! Other than that, I’m getting headaches from the femera, I think I have one or two more days and then I go in for my SnS on 1/24. Only 3 more days…only 3 more days!

Lots of love to all of you!

[Lauren1171]

Leora -men don't think like us. My sister in law is only 27. She has 2 kids, and said if we ever needed her to, she would be a surrogate. We have 5 frozen embryos so I was thinking that may be an option if my last IVF does not work. My DH said absolutely not! He said he will not have his sperm in his sister. He does not get it even though I explained. He said it was disgusting and we will never do it!

Lou - I am praying all three are great and you can transfer all. But it only takes one!

I was supposed to go fo S&S today, but I asked if I could go tomorrow because of snow storm. I have refilled my meds twice already and the pharmacy is so cheap on giving anything extra. I pay a copay every time so I would like the max amount. They ask me how many more days I need and they give exactly that. They even opened the menopur to give me just two vials out of a box! I had to call and order more yesterday and they were being kind of jerks. I started on Saturday the 8th so tonight will be my 14th night! The nurse said I may even need meds past next Wednesday....weird! My stomach has so many bruises from the cetrotide that I hardly have places to do shots lol. On Wednesday I only had 1 measurable follicle at 14 and a bunch smaller. I hope they are catching up!

[riogirl71]

LOU i cycled with a lady in 2008 who only got one egg, it fertilized and she now has a healthy baby, at my old clinic one girl only had 2, 5 cell fragmented embryos on day 3, transfered both and had twins. Keep the PMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Margi - dentist ouch - hope you feel better soon! Are you still POAS for practice?

Tiger - good luck on your SNS on Monday!!!!!!!!!

hotgreentea - menopur doesn't need to be refrigerated

krcaja - I vote for implantation bleeding too!

Sweetpea - hope you feel better soon!

[CJinNC]

Tiger, yes I am a huge proponent of saying what I think as tactifully as possible. I think it still gets me into trouble at times. I know I can offend people sometimes, but I would rather people take me as I am and understand how I feel rather than think I am Ms. Perky-everybody's-friend kind of gal. I think she knows how I feel because on occasion I will completely avoid any conversations related to pregnancy, or start talking about myself and she gets the picture and moves on. I just don't want to feel like a b*tch, but we gotta do what we gotta do to keep our sanity.

Krcaja.. DEFINITELY voting for implantation bleeding.

Leora, sometimes the things men say and do completely baffle me. Its hard to even believe we are a product of their loins (haha). Funny, in their younger years men are willing to give their sperm to any woman wiling to accept, but if she ASKS for it, forget it!

Lauren, its weird how their minds work. Besides, it wouldn't be his sperm, it would be his unborn child - HUGE difference. He would trust her with one of his children, right? Surrogacy is the ultimate trust of someone else for sure. I wish I had younger sisters to "borrow" eggs from... I actually have two half-blood sisters but they are 1 and 2 years younger than me, so I can't imagine their eggs are any better than mine. Plus, neither of them have ever had children or been married, so it may sound greedy to say "hey, I know you don't have any kids, and I doubt Mr. Rights coming along before menopause, so can I use your eggs so they don't go to waste?" Probably wouldn't end well. Besides, I only met one of them a few months ago. Yeah.... that's a whole other story.... I recently met another brother from my mother and another sister from my father. Seems both of my parents were... well shall we say... not "careful"... I have a total of 12 siblings between the two. Yikes!

Ughh.... 11 or 12 dpo today. Dying to POAS but I know it will be negative. Trying to judge when AF will be here so I can go in for my first u/s and med protocol. Its getting scary knowing I am starting the process next week. I just hope I will have lots of follicles to at least start with.

[HopeIsAllIHave]

Margi - I'm so glad you're back. I'm loving the colors you bring to this board! Good luck picking out a clinic, my dear. This cycle will be yours!

Rio - Thank you(!!) for that encouraging story. Really made me feel a lot better. Gosh, I love the positive energy on this board and it's so great that you check in on us! Aren't you from the bay area? I think I read somewhere that you live near SJ? I'm not too far off myself!

Sunshine.12 - I'm hoping and praying and crossing my fingers, legs, toes, everything imaginable, that you get your surprise BFP!

CJinNC - I like your serenity prayer!

Kat - Are you planning on POAS?

Lou - You only need 1 good egg! Keep up the PMA! So sorry you have to work, especially on the day of the retrieval! Can't even imagine that. Good luck with everything. I'm hoping and praying for you!!

Krcaja - I would start POAS asap. I don't know how you have resisted to thus far.. Well, that's what I tell others at least. I'm not sure how I'll be like during my 2ww. DH wants to wait till the beta, but I don't think I'll be able to. We'll see.

hotgreentea - yay, almost time to start stimming!

Tiger - yayy, only 3 more days!! How exciting!

Lauren - boo on stingy and rude pharmacies! Good luck tomorrow!

AFM - I just got back from my SnS and preop appt. Well, the good news is that I now have 12 follicles! The 2 new ones that grew are about 7mm in size but the RE thinks they'll catch up with the rest. The rest range roughly between 9-13, I believe. I got the tech to print out all the pictures of the follicles for me, teehee. DH wants to start a scrapbook and won't let me put it on the fridge. He's afraid we'll dirty it or something, lol. But anyway, RE thinks that I'll stim a bit longer though, so my retrieval date is going to be either Thursday or Friday next week instead of next Wednesday since I started off slow. EEEK! Only a week away! Waiting on the call to hear my E2 results as they were pretty low 3 days ago.. hopefully it's coming up nicely. Currently, I'm sitting at my sister's apt, basically house-sitting while the painters are here, painting their entire place. I'm nervous about inhaling all these fumes from the paint though. It's water-based, so I should be okay, right? I know I'm not preggo yet, but I really don't want to risk anything.

Loads of baby dust and love to all you amazing women!

[Kimber Baby]

Hello everyone,

Went in for u/s and baselines this morn and everything is going well. Doc saw 10 follies and said he was real pleased with my numbers and response to the stims. I guess that's good, right? 10 follies growing with only one ovary?

There's still the issue with the pocket of fluid in my ovary (cyst) but that was expected. RE says he thinks the fluid is from an egg that didn't disolve and gathered fluid or some nonsense like that. He said they usually go away eventually but this one is persistent. So, he's giving me extra antibiotics for the ER since it's blocking most of the follies and doc may need to go through it. Overall, I felt good after the appt.

Leora - I just have to say I don't think you're crazy asking hubbie's family. That would be my first thought too! However, just wanted to mention that most of the reputable donor sperm places have donor matching services that will match your DH to the donor that looks like him the most. So, for appearances, that's an option. I know it's not the same but thought I'd mention it. Also, I struggle with depression too and going off my meds to try to get pregnant was sooooo difficult! I hope this start looking up for you.

Lou - hang in there! Try to keep positive. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.


Kimber