Oct 05 Cycle Buddies

[Jen1d]

Well buds of loveliness
I survived work, just. Most of the staff are great but there is the odd few who sit there looking uncomfortable and don't know what to say. The kids were fine but one girl joked i have been off because i have 3 babies in my tummy, exit me from the room, i'm sure she has overheard some conversation but i survived------only wish she was right.
After not woking for 3 weeks and doing no aerobics or swimming i feel shattered, think it's the emotions all coming to the surface and catching up with me. Me and DH have decided to join slimming world tomorrow and drop a stone before round three. We have a wedding in 6 weeks, a visit to Surrey and are going to concentrate on house hunting. Round three will be here before we know it.
So my DH did go on the phone to the wicked secretary in the hospital. As suspected when he asked about the waiting list, the funding and an appointment for us she was lost for words. I rang the Dr in the hospital direct and she was great. She said we can go and see her within the next week or 2, and she is always availabel for us if we need to talk to her----Secretary 0-Jen 1.

I also had the TALK with DH about kids and adoption, he always wants to continue but finds it hard watching me getting upset and having to go through all the treatment but we are not so keen on adoption at this point. There is no reason why i can't get pregnant with ivf and carry it myself, its just going to take time but its so emotional. I can handle the drugs and treatments but the emotional side is so tough.

Its great we have all decided to carry on and we will be here to help each other. I will now make my promise to be her for you all even if i get preggers and Lola your not a bad omen. Your going to get up the duff first and i'll follow, ok.

Love to you all as always, will write more tomorrow, am away to hit the sofa

Love Jen x

[little R]

Congrats on surviving your day back at work Jen...you're a real trooper
Also Congrats on your next Dr's appointment.... same here, the nurses are sometimes frustrating and the Dr is nice and available
Wow, it's funny (not haha either ) how we all have had THE talk in a matter of a week.
My DH and I are not ready for adoption either as we are in the "unexplained infertility" group and therefore no one has actually told us we cannot have children....like you said...it's the emotional rollercoaster ride that is disheartening

Anyway.... let's hope we can all get preggers by the end of the year....we said 2006 was our year...
Thank you Jen for your promise not to abandon us...

Hugs to you,

Little R

[little R]

It's Hormones Central here tonight... I'm feeling lonely... wish DH was here. I want to cry....

I have just had an upsetting chat with my DH's father. He drives me up the wall and always knows what to say to rub me up the wrong way... he's a real bully and sometimes thinks that I am a door mat, especially when DH is not around. I didn't have the energy to put up with the insulting tone so I just basically stopped talking and listened and then said goodbye..... He's so insensitive....argh in-laws!!!

Sorry...needed to vent...

Going to watch Grey's to feel a little better!

Love to you all... talk more tomorrow...

Little R

[Inhale, Exhale]

Gal Pals!
Well, it is just after lunch and I do not feel like working in the slightest..... I am thinking of leaving early... hmmm decisions.

I have some time to kill between work and yoga.. am thinking of doing a little shoppin.. inspired by Lola Undercover. If I leave now I will have extra time to try things on, complain that nothing fits, whine that everything is too expensive and swear off food for the next week... or until I see something very yummy!

Jens- your doc sounds like the tops! way to go.. I luv it when snotty office staff gets put in their place! I believe I see the secretary and she has something that looks similar to silly string all over her.. what is that? Oh yeah ... it's the remains from the can of whoop *ss. That a girl! Wooh- you look good in them sh*t-kickers and chaps! Yee-haw Cowgirl!

Staring longingly out window that doesn't open,
No fresh air here
Steph

[lolajones]

la la ladies

Aborted shopping trip. Ox street full of easter hol mini breakers and teens making me feel guilty for entering Top Shop.

Instructions from Mission control

Agent Steph - escape! Pref through a bathroom window and abseil down side of building to FREEDOM

Agent R - ring in law dad back and give him the verbal fo, KA style

Agent Jemlardidah - rest and recuperate chile

As for MIA Agent Walsh - yo headin for a court martial senorita, come back!

Going back to my Temple of Boredom for more brain tomfoolery - asbestos, since you asked

NB SHE'S A..... LAYDEH! Woah! Woah! Woah! SHE'S A LAYDEH!!!!!!!! Talking about ma LITTLE LAYDEH!!

Luego manchegos

Lola
xxxx

[little R]

Agent R reporting to duty....... thank you Lola love...was taking a quick look at the site before turning in.... hihihihihihihihi, you crack me up girl! Will disobey your direct order and not verbally attack the in-law person...definitely not worth my breath

BTW... fabulous Grey's tonight... I love the McDreamy

Hugs to you all....catch you tomorrow...

Thanks for being there,

Little R

[little R]

Agent R reporting to duty again...although it never feels like "duty" chatting with my Octofriends.

How are you all this morning?

Sunny is ablazing here, will go for a little walk in the "park"...

AF is still not here and the nurse says that it shouldn't be late... ARGH. I just am anxious to get this all going now. Sorry to complain.

So Steph... did you get anything fancy? Please share...

Love to you Octochicks

Little R

[lolajones]

Buenos
How are octoblerones today?
Little R - where is your af? I was on different drug regime to you but my af was late when I was deregging and it never usually is. Unless of course there is another reason for it not arriving on time..... that woud be fantastic!
Having a bit of a yawner today - I think I have RSI from note writing
Man I did not want to get up this morning - was having a fantastic Alias style dream where I had to play dead in order to survive some quasi terrorist thingy and dream-me got the top idea of making it look convincing by dribbling It worked brilliantly! At the time dh came in to wake me i had just karate kicked someone in the head, jumped through a window and was escaping on all fours (?) through a forest with the baddys in hot pursuit! my life is soooo dullllll. Steph - I may have even been wearing the blue wig of action heroism.
so, yes, thats what its got to for me, must seize the day as previously planned. Will post my CV to CI6 immediately.

Yours undercover and covert ops girl

Lola
xxxx

[little R]

Hey there my delightful Octopals....

Well AF reared her "pretty" head late afternoon yesterday.
So since it's the weekend here, I have to wait until Saturday before the clinic's reception opens to book my D-5 scan to make sure I can start stimming (hopefully on Sunday). Fingers crossed.
I have never been happy to have my period, but I am now really excited to get this show on the road.

Funny you dreaming about ALIAS, Lola lass...I watched a really old episode on TV yesterday evening from Season 1. Man that Vaugh is a hottie...in a different way to McDreamy, but way up there on that Mark Darcy/Colin Firth list. Vaugh is half French hence the appeal Yummy

Lola, love... how's the unspeakable doing?

Steph, any new hot numbers to report back? Any purchases on your thrilling shopping adventure? Any hot Grey's updates/spoilers to share ?

Jen, how are you doing, luv? Thinking of you.... hoping you're surviving... but imagining that you are as you're an Octochick and we are toughies Virtual hugs to you.

Walshy...wondering whether you are still hunting for the Easter eggs with your in-laws Hope you're having fun and a nice break away from reality.

Hugs to all...and sending sunshine...

Little R

[Jen1d]

Hi girls,

Glad to here that Little R's AF has arrived , bring on the BFP, we need to start a run of good news for us Buds. Glad you feeling keen to start and sound more happier. We're here for you all the way.

Lola - I'm getting worried about you. Have your always been so violent and your now sharing it with us as you know us well now? Best we don't all meet up one day, don't fancy a chop to the head, my nipples pinched or getting stoned. What medi are your on?

Steph and Walshy - Thinking of you both as usual. Hope things are ok

Me - Well i can't seem to pick myself up. Now the cycle is finished everyone thinks you should jump back into life and carry on as normal, they don't think about the emotions that are on a back burner until next cycle or that our lives are on hold. I'm finding it harder this time to pick myself up and i just feel so emotionally exhausted, is it just me or do you guys feel like this?
I joined Slimming World last night to try and shift the weight i have gained from the medi and lack of exercise over the last few months. I'm going to start my swimming again next week and get in good shape for my embies next time. It just seems so far away, i wish we didn't have to wait for a few month. Anyway all good things come to those who wait eh?

Quick question - what do your clinics/hosptals say about freezing embies. We were told that from three days onwards they don't freeze well. What do you think girls?

Huge hug to you all

Love jen x

[lolajones]

Hey Jen

I felt exactly like you at first - hard to pick myself up. Only started to feel a bit better at weekend really. I think it does get harder as we go on. You will feel better though, time, as always is the only remedy.
As for the embryo freezing, my clinic won't freeze 5 days and they tend only to do 2 day transfers so I don't think they freeze 4 days either. My doc says they do that because thaw results are so disappointing at present for blasts.
Did you get to freeze any this time? I know I should know but you know what my memory's like.
I am thinking of thawing a whole bunch of my embryos and going for blast transfer next time. Don't know what my doc'll say...
I think we should have a pact for third time success! Lets start preparing now with exercise, acupuncture, herbs and vits and give it the best ever shot next time. I prob won't go again until July or August I reckon, plenty of time to get in shape after the pesky examin shhhhhh.

As for the violence.... I just have a lot of unspent physical energy at the moment as stuck in the library of satan so I need to express ma bad self. No meds yet but have my eye on some Lithium.

How're the rest of the crew?
Little R - indeed vaughn is an uber hottie. Glad your af arriviste. Sunday for stimms... is so exciting when you start stims!! Now I hope you are eating well and having plenty of rest and taking the folic tabs. I soooooo hope this works!!!

Steph? Heeelllooo? Donde esta croc wrestler? Did the parachute not open? Did you tear a little something in Yoga? We miss you, dude!

Walsheroo - hurry back!!

Righto amigas, off to wash locks - have had scary bed hair all day, sexy...

Take care my bundles

Lola
xxxxx

[Jen1d]

Hi Loopy Lola - DR didn't freeze any because the next best two embies didn't develop well overnight and she said they don't freeze them on day 3 as they don't do well when thawing the next time round??? She advised us to do a fresh cycle as therei s more chance of it working???? We just had to be guided by her but that means we have to pay again and have no frosties.
Acup - well don't know if i will go through that again. Noticed there is an acup thread that is on the go at the moment. The girl on there said it gives you a much better chance of getting preggers, but it didn't work for me so don't know if i will bother, i think its just luck whether it works or not.
As for the next cycle, well will see my Dr hopefully in the next 2 weeks and probably start at the beginning of July.

Chin up my lovely

Love Jen x

[little R]

Morning Octogang....
I have a big day of non-mentally taxing cleaning ahead of me...
Oh Joy!
My DH says we must have a cleaning lady when I am doing IVF...I hate it... she's SO slow and deliberately drags the hours out just to get paid more...additionally she broke the vacuum cleaner and my Xmas lights (I still had them up because they made me feel better in the evenings! )

VENT over... just wanted to say that she is not coming this week because I don't want to see her
Anyway, I am rejoicing in the cleaning...

DH comes home tomorrow morning...so pretty much looking forward to some human contact... need a hug although not looking forward to handing over the computer and remote controls Well, there is always a downside.

Yes Lola love, I am eating my protein and veggies, drinking heaps of H2O, resting as much as possible with tv and books and taking folic tabs. I sooooo hope this works too because I am not sure that I am particularly motivated to put my BFN To Do list into practice I am still working on it at the moment
By the way, I don't think that you're overly violent and I would love to meet you, Dr Jones...especially wearing your notorious red/blue Garner wig. Hey how was Grey's last night? Or have you banned yourself from hottie TV to get down to the books?
Wishing your strength for the unspeakable... lots of virtual hugs for you.

Jen, dearest. So... our clinic doesn't freeze after 3 days either for the same reasons as Lola's clinic. Our Dr has suggested we transfer 2 blasts this time around. I just hope we get to that stage. She said that she would freeze the good stuff on Day 3.... I am praying that we will have something good to freeze this time because I can only imagine that it must be easier than having to start all over again. Even mentally, the mountain seems higher to me....
Of course you are not feeling 100%.... people are clueless sometimes.. "what you don't know you can't understand" is my theory. It's not like falling off your bike and scrapping your knee and you shed your tears, you get a plaster, a kiss and all is better As Lola said and from my last experience, the only remedy is time.
You take the time you need and everyone is different. E-hugs to you my dear.
Good luck on the slimming...sounds like a positive initiative for yourself (if that's what you want) which will benefit YOU too not just your embies.
I am on the opposite end, I am trying to pack on the weight healthily... the nurses all look at me at the clinic and mumble "so slim" in a reprimanding tone as if I am deaf (and not in a good way either ). Anyway...

Steph love...what's up in your neck of the woods...come back we miss you

Walshy, should be home soon...poor thing she will have lots to catch up on...

I still haven't joined another thread.... I am counting on you guys to get me through it.... perhaps I shouldn't be so selfish.


Lots of love to you all.... sunny kisses and hugs,

Little R

[lolajones]

Halloo there

Well Greys was bueno - lots of chemistry twixt the Der and Mer (it only episode 3) sizzle n spark, I love it!
As for the studying.. I have officially reached the end of my rope. I have had enough. Can't wait to get monday over with so I can at least have a weekend off I'm in a bad mood Toxicology remains a mystery to me.

Little R good to see you're looking after yourself. Maybe you should sack your cleaning lady? My dh is really busy at the moment and I'm not exactly in geisha mode what with the job and the nameless so we were thinking we need a wife. Or a nanny. Or mother. Would be soooo good for someone to just come in for 2-3 hours every night to tidy up and cook dinner for us when we get in. Read us a bedtime story and tuck us in... too far? Going to look into it
Enjoy your weekend with dh, it must be tough with him away such a lot. You should get a stand in

Jemla fresh cycles have got better success rates. You'll be starting before me! So you're child will be older than mine Don't know about you but the thought of starting again makes me feel tired. I look at the testing thread etc and I just feel exhausted. In theory I want to do this as soon as possible cos i aint getting any younger but man oh man, no energy. Hopefully will feel more up for it after a few months break. The acup made you less stressed though? You seemed pretty happy and relaxed throughout the cycle this time. Was talking with dh last night, he suggested a visit to The Zita. Why not, throw a bit of money at it eh?

Stealth Steph - the world is a desert without you, Tippi, post soon. Hope you're ok...

And walsher - we count the days!

OK, I'd better blah blah blah, you know its got so bad i long for work

PMA dredged from the bottom of my mushy cerebrum

Lola
xxxx

[Jen1d]

Hi girls

So after two days off work i have to go back this afternoon and its a sleepover, can't get motivated and feel so tired. Am also having some twinges in my right side again, probably ovaries shrinking back to normal or maybe the 2 hpt were wrong and my little Pebbles and BamBam are still here--------wishful thinking eh.

Little R - You are so lucky to have a cleaner, i hate doing it. Anyway have decided not to talk to you today since you are underweight and i have to diet I look at a carrot and i gain a 1lb.

Lola - You sound as p***ed off as me. Dump the studying---toxicology doesn't sound like much fun to me. We'll struggle along together but will get there eventually. I'm also tired but the only way i can move forward is to tell myself it will work. Hang in there girl, we're made of stronger stuff us Octo girls.

Steph and Walshy - We miss you, hurry home

Love Jen x