to have fun - I think your plan is a good one. Seems like we always have to be thinking ahead of things. I don't know the "rules" for over and undersupressing, that was a hurdle I didn't get caught up on. Whichever is worse you would want to lean away from...if you oversupress, what are the consequences, if you under what are those? I think if you under it has less concequence (sp?) because you would just waste a week...if you oversupress, I am not sure, would they cancel the cycle? Regardless remember KKE's lesson of running out of meds, just always think ahead! I think that is true what someone said several weeks ago, we can run our own cycle better than our RE can!
PrayingforBFP-I too haven't even told my mom. I just don't want the entire world to know. She can't keep a secret, she is a terrible liar too. I don't want to put her in that situation, I also don't want to have to tell people when it doesn't work. Anyway, she understands because we opted not to spend $3K to fly home this Christmas so though we don't talk about it, I think deep down she knows what is going on. Tell me more about this blood thromboli problem, a thrombosis (singular, plural) means blood clot. I have a clotting problem too but count yourself lucky you learned of it before, not after the BFP as I had to this summer. Call them back, get the name and google the he** out of it. I joined a MTHFR forum and learned of the different types of MTHFR. I kindly refer to it as mother f****r there are compound, hetero and homo etc. Most clotting disorders can be overcome with baby asprin and heprin or lovenox shots. Don't let it get you down. Be proactive, not reactive. I know it is a shock and I don't know your history (your sig)
Havebaby1627-I too have BW tuesday but don't expect to get my ER date, tenatively its the 18th. I know we are on the exact same day at this time. Can't wait to hear more after tomorrow for you...I think I just have BW then possible adjustment of protocol, not sure on the u/s part.
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3 Angel Babies
Failed IVF
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Hi Amanda-
Congrats on the ET and your 5 & 6 cell embies sound perfect. Check out the link from this site that says 24-72hr transfers the embies should be between 4-8cell. So RIGHT ON!!! Hope those lil ones snuggle in tight! http://www.ivf-infertility.com/ivf/stan ... zation.php
prayin4BFP - If you don't mind me asking, why did they do the Thrombophilia panel for you? I know it sucks that they found something wrong but at least they did find it and you can take the drugs to help you get PG.
Forevelove - At your fist appointment they will do an u/s and b/w. For the u/s they are checking to make sure that your lining is thin, make sure you don't have any cysts or anything else that would cause a problem and also check to see how many antral follicles you have. For the b/w they will check your E2 level to make sure you are well suppressed and your FSH level. As far as the meds, I don't remember what you are taking but usually if everything goes ok with the baseline your RE will have you start doing your stimming meds. Hope this helps.
amanda717 - Congrats on ET. I don't know all that much about the cell stage. I wouldn't worry too much about it. You have what you have and can't change it. I have seen lots of ladies that have not so good embies get PG and a lot that have great eggs that go on to have a BFN. It is a crap shoot no one knows what will happen.
Lady J - My RE said I could switch between the two. I don't see a problem but just in case ask your RE. I have been taking the Lupron for 3 weeks now and have some big bruises on my stomach. It doesn't hurt, just looks nasty.
babyhope1 - Thanks for your insight. I was thinking the same way. I am just going to cut back till Thursday and see what happens. If I am over-suppressed then it will be hard to grow follies. If I am under suppressed then they won't even let me start a cycle. We will see what happens.
Chris
Chris 40- DH 41
6 IVFs Cycles - BFN's
DE Cycle 2/2011 -BFP Jacob born 11/11/11
Hello girls. This board is too hopping to remember everyone personally, but wanted to say good luck to all during your cycles.
But for the newbies to IVF (like me) who don't understand some of the meds or don't even know what meds they'll be on.....I just found this online and it really helped me to understand what else I'll probably be taking besides Lupron and Follistim and the reasons behind what I'll be taking. SO here is what I found....
Lupron
Depending on the protocol prescribed, Lupron is often the first medication used in the IVF cycle. Lupron temporarily suppresses pituitary and ovarian hormone production and prevents ovulation from occurring prior to oocyte retrieval. This medication is generally started one week before the next expected period and continued until two days prior to the egg retrieval. The most common side effects of Lupron include hot flashes, vaginal dryness, and irritability. These side effects last a few days only, and typically disappear or lessen once gonadotropins are started.
Gonadotropins
Gonadotropins stimulate the development of multiple ovarian follicles so that multiple eggs can be retrieved from the ovaries. Gonadotropins consist of a mixture of the natural hormones FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) and LH (luteinizing hormone), or contain FSH alone. Commonly used gonadotropin preparations include Repronex, Gonal F, Follistim, Bravelle, and Menopur. Of these, only Repronex can be injected either under the skin (subcutaneously) or into the muscle (intramuscularly). All others can only be injected subcutaneously.
One or more gonadotropin preparations are administered at about the same time each night (between 7-9 pm). Some patients inject medications twice per day (12 hours apart). When gonadotropins are started, the daily Lupron dose may be decreased. Side effects of gonadotropins may include bloating, abdominal distention, nausea, breast tenderness, and fatigue.
Antagon or Cetrotide
These medications, known as gonadotropin-releasing hormone antagonists, are not used in all cycles. Like Lupron, they suppress pituitary and ovarian hormone production and prevent premature ovulation. These medications are administered by subcutaneous injections and are generally not started until the largest follicle is 12-14 millimeters in size.
Human Chorionic Gonadotropin Hormone (HCG)
This medication has various brand names, including Pregnyl, Profasi, Novarel, or Ovidrel. HCG induces the final maturity of the egg and initiates release of the eggs from the follicles. Pregnyl, Profasi, and Novarel are given intramuscularly. Ovidrel is given subcutaneously. The egg retrieval is scheduled approximately 34 to 36 hours after the injection, before the actual release of any eggs.
Progesterone
Progesterone is a hormone essential for establishing and maintaining pregnancy. Progesterone may be administered in a few different forms including vaginal suppositories, intramuscular injections and oral preparations. While progesterone injections are often uncomfortable, the scientific literature reports that intramuscular injection is the most efficacious delivery method.
Antibiotics
Doxycycline or another antibiotic is routinely given the night before the egg retrieval to possibly minimize the risk of infection.
Steroids
Medrol is a steroid hormone commonly used in IVF cycles. While the actual benefit of Medrol has not been established, it may help prevent the body from rejecting the transferred embryos.
Hope this helps you girls.
Married and TTC 11 years
1st IVF
ER 1/28, ET 2/2 (2 blasts)
13 frosties
2/16 - 1st BETA 14dp5dt=[b]830[/b]
2/18 - 2nd BETA16dp5dt=[b]1962[/b]
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tohavefun08: It seems RE does a thrombophilia panel on everyone . I have never had any indication I had this problem but then again I have never had any medical problems. Yes I am glad they found this out before my ER. I have been a bit emotional lately so I guess it caught me off guard when I got the call.
babyhope1; You are right and I will call the office first thing in the morning. The office is closed now since they start their days at like 6am. My DH needs to have a TESA so we can get sperm and is why we are doing ICSI/IVF and this is my 1st IVF experience. I am 40 yo and I wanted to have PGD done because I have a family history of Fragile X syndrome which is another reason for the IVF. ANyway from what I got from the nurse (and what I can remember) I produce too much fibrinogen which can cause clotting in the placenta which can cause miscarriage. SHe mentioned I would have to take the aspirin then the lovenox after ER. She said not to do anything now but when I go in to the office in about 10 days (when I get my period) for the BW and sono they would tell me what I would start taking and when. I trust my RE but I guess I was unprepared for this potential problem. I am working pn the PMA so everything will be ok.
THANKS JENNlb25! I am about to sstart Lupron Wednesday and I am terrified! I dont like needles. I cannot look at them. My DH is the same way, so this ought to be a very trying time.
To_have_fun... I am fine doing it on my legs. The injections dont hurt and I am more scared to do on my stomach. I just want to know if it is more effective if I do on my stomach or my thighs? But if it doesnt matter then I rather keep doing on my thighs.
Well, I hope I hear good news on Wednesday for my first stim check up. At least I get to stay home from work tomorrow and relax cuz of veterans day... and then first thing Wed., I see my doctor.
PCOS.... 1 falopian tube
Natural PG in 1998-Full Term
Natural PG in 2000 - Ruptured Left Tubal Eptopic PG
2007 - Diagnosed with PCOS - Placed on Metformin. Stopped due to Bro death.
2008 - Placed on Metformin again.
Aug. of 08 - Referred to Fertility Specialist. IVF only option.
Sept '08 - Started Labs, Sanogram, etc...
Oct. 7 - Started AF
Oct. 11 - Started BCP. Last BCP taken Oct 31
Oct. 26 - Started 20u Lupron Injections
Nov 6 - Started AF
Nov 11 - Started 225u Follistim Inj.
Lupron lowered to 10u.
Proposal date for ER- 11/19 ET-11/24 (5day)
JennJenn wrote:THANKS JENNlb25! I am about to sstart Lupron Wednesday and I am terrified! I dont like needles. I cannot look at them. My DH is the same way, so this ought to be a very trying time.
My RE's nurse actually made me stand up and show her my belly because she knew how terrified I was of those needes. She put the Lupron needle into my belly and I can honestly say, I didn't even feel it go in!
The one I'm worried about is the progesterone(sp?). They say because it's a mixture of powder and saline, the needle is bigger to accomodate the thickness of the mixture. YIKES, that one I am nervous about!!!!
But I don't think you need to worry about the Lupron shots!!
Married and TTC 11 years
1st IVF
ER 1/28, ET 2/2 (2 blasts)
13 frosties
2/16 - 1st BETA 14dp5dt=[b]830[/b]
2/18 - 2nd BETA16dp5dt=[b]1962[/b]
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Chris.....I so hope your levels are good because I think it would be awesome if we could be really close in our schedule. Plus I don't want you to have to deal with your worry and frustration about your levels anymore! We're gonna get our dream!
Karen.....thanks for updating me! Hope you are feeling okay and preggers.
NY.....I had some pretty sharp pains like that last time when I was pregnant - at the time it freaked me out.
me 38 dh 36
mc twins 20wks 2000, ectopic 4/2005
1st ivf May 2008 cancelled before ET
2nd ivf/icsi BFP, mc, D&C 9/8/08
3rd ivf/icsi, BFP, mc, D&C 1/5/09
4th ivf DE, BFP!
praying4bfp-consider yourself lucky. They usually don't do DNA and clotting tests until a woman suffers 3 miscarriages. I did it after my first becuse I lost two babies. Turns out they only consider it one miscarriage. Anyway, they can manage it and that is what you have to focus on. Thankfully they caught it for you before the emotional pain I went through. Some RE will not even do it after the first mc, I asked about it and mine was open to it. You truly are blessed. Do not let it get to you.
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Failed IVF
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This board is just hopping today. Every time I check in there are 3 or 4 more post. Then I refresh and there is more. I guess none of us are getting much done on Monday.
Yeah to have fun i love it when the board gets really busy!!!! I go thru stages where i am on 24/7 and then days when i hardly look. I love it then becuase ther's lots to catch up on!!
Firstly from reading Gina1234s post i want to say that i think we all try to keep up but it is hard as there are so many of us and things happen so fast!!!! For example, i just read about 2 pages - thats a lot of posts and i cant remember everything that happened. I always try to answer any questions i KNOW the answer to, but if i dont know what perople are asking about or they have a totally different condition to me of which i have NO experience i keep quiet, knowing that someone elso on here will know. I also try to celebrate good news and say a few words to show i care when things dont work out, but i know i must leave some people out, but its totally unintentional and i hate to think one of us is out there 'alone'.
I dont think there is one of us us on here who has not sat and cried about this again and again and again, so we do all know what each other is going through.
ANyway, now i have forgotten what i was going to say in personals!!! err, i'll do my best -
To have fun Just keep going. Considering how much money we pay, i think its bad that we have to adjust and sef-medicate like this. If i was the RE i would have you on 12.5 for 2 days, then re-test and keep adjusting and re-testing every 48 hours till we were at the right level. This part of the process is not rocket-science, its logical and i just think its bad they are 'waiting to see'. I'm so glad you have been pro-active and are taking charge of your own meds with this and you KNOW i am routing for you...
Karen & NY4th Cramping is such a good sign. I know some people have no cramping or signs and still get their BFP, but in my 2WW last time i was obsessed and went back to so many old posts to see who had symptoms etc and who didnt. In my non-scientific analysis, i came to the conclusion that cramping is always a good sign. (thats why i was pissed that i never even had a twinge) This is such a good sign
KKE You asked how long to have off work between ER & ET. I think as long as you feel ok its fine to go back to work stright away after ER. SOme people do just that but others feel woozy from the anaesthetic and some have some pain. (so maybe take the rest of the day off and go to bed early that night)
After ET - the theory on this varies so much. A lot of RE's say bed rest for 24-48 hours, others say get right back to work, so maybe talk to your RE. Obviously if do a very physical job, like an aerobics instructor or firefighter, it may be better to take a week off work and sit in front of the TV with some movies and a tub of ice-cream!!!
kas like i said before i understand what is happening to all of us & i just think with everything in my life that is going on between my car accident i had on 10/19 & the whole ivf thing i just needed to vent....i do appreciate everything everyone has done & said to me......anyways i hope u are doing well...
to all the ladies on the board...i just wanted to say hello...& tomorrow is the big day...ET @ 11:30 11/11/08....i cant wait...i am so ready for this...i am feeling so positive for the first time in along time....anyways hope u all are doing well....i am sending u all big hugs & alot of baby dust...wish me luck...i will send a post tomorrow to let u all know how things went
Me 29 pcos
Dh 32 ring chromosomes problem
1st IVF 2003 3trans/ bfn
2nd ivf sept 2008 2 trans/bfn
3rd ivf nov 2008 bfp : )
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Gina- You know what they say about 11-11? Whenever I was a little girl and the time read 11:11 when you happen to look at it we called it "sticks" and you get to make a wish. So for you on 11/11 during the 11th hour I bet you can make a wish, and ironically, I bet whatever you may be wishing for...that it "sticks" HA! Like dust on peanut butter!
OK I am getting tired...one more thing
JennJenn-it helps to have your DH give the shots, it is mental sticking yourself in the belly. However, if you ice it first and pinch the fat for a minute you honestly don't feel it, another helpful tip, go fast! Stick it in fast, don't be afraid to stab because you feel the slow ones. Then administer the med slowly and hold for 3 seconds then withdrawl. Withdrawl doesn't hurt either. It is a fine art but you will master it. The needle is so small, it really is empowering. Not that I am going to go off and be a druggie but think, you can do it! I had DH do my menapur shot yesterday so he can practice too. You will look back and be stronger woman for what you went through. Best of luck to you, remember your goal, if we didn't all have this comon goal we wouldn't be playing with needles anyway.
Babyhope1
3 Angel Babies
Failed IVF
There is someone in Heaven looking out for me!
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