Hi Ghost,
I am in the midst of a new cycle. I started with estrogen priming (patches every other day and ganirelix for three days) and then moved to microdose lupron plus 450 gonal-f and 150 menopur.
Today, at my day 6 visit, there were no follicles close to 10, despite an increase in my antral follicle count from 5 in August to 8.
Any ideas? Could it be that "slow burn" of the epp or could I be suppressed from the mdl? Or am I just too old (43)?
Many thanks for your answer!
Ghost -- ACK!! Question about poor response to stims.
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Ghost -- ACK!! Question about poor response to stims.
Me: 42 DH:38
Me: Age
DH: Low everything
TTC 3 Yrs
10/09: 1st IVF cycle; 7 eggs, 2 embryos BFN
12/09: 2nd IVF; ER 12/20 11 eggs; 9 mature, 2 fertilized (ICSI), 0 viable. Cancelled.
4/10: 3rd IVF; 4 eggs, 1 fertilized (ICSI), BFN
Me: Age
DH: Low everything
TTC 3 Yrs
10/09: 1st IVF cycle; 7 eggs, 2 embryos BFN
12/09: 2nd IVF; ER 12/20 11 eggs; 9 mature, 2 fertilized (ICSI), 0 viable. Cancelled.
4/10: 3rd IVF; 4 eggs, 1 fertilized (ICSI), BFN
Re: Ghost -- ACK!! Question about poor response to stims.
You sound just like me...my last cycle was canceled on day 6 as I had 7 follies, but nothing grew and my estrogen came back at 12 (lower than day 4). I am 44.
I cycled again and now at day 10 I have a 14 and a 12 , and my estrogen is at 250. I think its cause we are older honestly.
My FSH Is 9 and my follicle count ranges from 5 to 8 but its not the follicle count per se...its how many will respond to meds. I have had 12 in the past and had only 4 grow from that (when I was 41/42).
It seems to me that some follicles are just not good and the percent of bad follicles grows as we get older. So we might have 8 and see 7 grow when we are 38 and then have 10 and see just 1 grow when we are 43.
My RE said for me, it would be dumb luck if we had a good follicles around when we started stims....
Good Luck. What is your day 6 estrogen?
I cycled again and now at day 10 I have a 14 and a 12 , and my estrogen is at 250. I think its cause we are older honestly.
My FSH Is 9 and my follicle count ranges from 5 to 8 but its not the follicle count per se...its how many will respond to meds. I have had 12 in the past and had only 4 grow from that (when I was 41/42).
It seems to me that some follicles are just not good and the percent of bad follicles grows as we get older. So we might have 8 and see 7 grow when we are 38 and then have 10 and see just 1 grow when we are 43.
My RE said for me, it would be dumb luck if we had a good follicles around when we started stims....
Good Luck. What is your day 6 estrogen?
Me: 44 severely reduced reserve
DH: 44 perfect
IVF 1: Feb 08 -BFP twins (lost one at 7 weeks, one at 13 weeks)
IVF 2: June 08 -BFN
IVF 3: September 08 -BFN
IVF 4: November 08 - Katherine Emma born 8/9/2009
DH: 44 perfect
IVF 1: Feb 08 -BFP twins (lost one at 7 weeks, one at 13 weeks)
IVF 2: June 08 -BFN
IVF 3: September 08 -BFN
IVF 4: November 08 - Katherine Emma born 8/9/2009
Re: Ghost -- ACK!! Question about poor response to stims.
EPP cycles do seem to start slowly. But age is a big factor. The mdl will eventually suppress, but starts off with a big surge of FSH and LH.Brooklyngirl wrote:Hi Ghost,
I am in the midst of a new cycle. I started with estrogen priming (patches every other day and ganirelix for three days) and then moved to microdose lupron plus 450 gonal-f and 150 menopur.
Today, at my day 6 visit, there were no follicles close to 10, despite an increase in my antral follicle count from 5 in August to 8.
Any ideas? Could it be that "slow burn" of the epp or could I be suppressed from the mdl? Or am I just too old (43)?
Many thanks for your answer!
Your RE can assess your specific condition much better than I can.
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