July Cycle Buddies?

Sue25 · Post by **Sue25** » Tue Jun 24, 2003 8:51 pm

Hi Alison Thanks for the advice ,wow 6 that must have cost you a fortune. I,ve been going to accupuncture too I find it very good all that burning of moxia very relaxing ,going tomorrow so that should calm me abit Good luck & Best wishes Girls with all your tmt love Sue

jo mortimer · Post by **jo mortimer** » Wed Jun 25, 2003 8:57 am

Hi Alison Thanks for the advice, I was worried about them sticking! My lining was thin when we used clomid so I just hope it improves! I think sitting in the garden does sound a better option for relaxing! Has everyone stopped drinking? I'm trying to stick to 6 units or less but on these summer nights I could kill for a nice glass of wine! Speak to you all soon Jo x

Alison · Post by **Alison** » Wed Jun 25, 2003 7:47 pm

On the alcohol front what I didn't mention was that in this weather I enjoy relaxing in the garden WITH A BEER! Because I'm doing FET and AF hasn't shown up so not going to the clinic or anything (won't have to go til day 10) it still feels very unreal so haven't really worried about the alcohol side of things. On my first cycle though I was incredibly disciplined - no alcohol at all for 3 weeks before I started sniffing - not because I thought it would make a difference but because I didn't want it not to work and me think, "what if...?". As it didn't work when I was "good" I've been less bothered on subsequent cycles, but as a rule I think its best to cut right down while doing the stims drugs, and obviously not overdo it post e/t! But minimising stress is also important, so as long as you're not going out getting legless I'd carry on enjoying the odd glass. Sue - 6 was indeed pricey, and sod's law that was the cycle when the drugs weren't GP funded! Alison x

louli · Post by **louli** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:02 am

Hello All! Woops! I did show myself up managing to put my last message on 4 times, I am not sure what happened but after I had posted it was not there and then the site would not open again - weird! Anyway,made it look like a very busy thread!! On the alcohol front I shared a bottle of wine with hubby in the garden last night but ususally try not to drink Sun - thurs and then a few glasses over weekend. Everything in moderation is the way I see it. Still no sign of AF and I am failing miserably at not panicking about this. It is now 81/2 weeks since my op and sice the last AF which was happening at the same time. Can't get my head round the possibility that I could be menopausal now. Previous to the surgery I was always fairly regular. Am having Acupuncture and taking Agnus Castus. We are off to see Sam at the Lister next week so he will probably suggest a scan and bloods. Alison, went back to work on Monday and already bitten by a cat! Dawn , Good Luck for baseline scan today and hope the jabbing is fine. Kathryn, Sounds like you have really been so supportive to your friend even though it has been so hurtful for you. I really admire you because I have not been able to be supportive to my sister at all. I know how you feel about losing friends too. Most of mine have children now and openly told me that they choose to socialise with their new friends who are also parents. DH and I are seriously considering a move to a different area so we can make new friends and start again. Any tips on how I can make myself do better by my sister? We are seeing consultant on 3rd July at Lister. Good Luck for your cycle and welcome to the innner tubeless gang! Grace, are you planning another attempt? Sue, How is everything looking for ET on 2nd July. I am willing those follies to get bigger for you. Jo, I'm afraid I just had the wine! Good luck and keep relaxing!

july ann · Post by **july ann** » Thu Jun 26, 2003 9:19 am

hi girls just wanted to send you positive vibes for all you july cycles. from july ann

Alison · Post by **Alison** » Sat Jun 28, 2003 8:50 am

Trumpet fanfare.... drum roll.... yup AF has arrived this morning so we're off for my FET! Have to go in to the clinic on day 10, which I guess is a week on Monday. Perhaps when I actually go to the clinic it will start to seem real that I'm doing this, cos at the moment it really doesn't which is probably a good thing! Anyway, hope you're all doing well - do keep posting and keep in touch! Alison x

Dawn Blake · Post by **Dawn Blake** » Sat Jun 28, 2003 2:37 pm

Hello everyone, well done Alison, hurray, jump aboard the rollacoaster! Hope everyone is feeling good, I have had a great week, sleeping really well, good week at work and feeling fine (very strange!). The baseline scan went well on Thursday, everthing was as it should be - no cysts, lining nice and thin etc, so started 3 x amps of Gonal F Thursday evening, scan again next Thursday, so hopefully some nice big fat follies!! Been dotting around here there and everywhere today, so am just about to chill out in the garden for a couple of hours before our dinner guests (including 4 month old goddaughter arrive!). Alison - went to Dr Zhu again today, I could have acupuncture every night! Was lovely as normal, got some more Moxia sticks, I have been burning it before going to bed each evening, and it really sends me off. Also topped up on some more tablets and tea, so hopefully another good week ahead! Hope everyone's scans/jabs/sniffs etc etc go well. Have a great weekend (I am loving this weather!) D x

Grace · Post by **Grace** » Sat Jun 28, 2003 5:59 pm

Hello July Cyclers Just wanted to say hello and let you know I am keeping tabs on all of you and wishing you all the very best of luck with your treatmeant. I am feeling really well myself after a shakey start to the week. Thanks to you all for your positive messages. I am going to have my "killer Cells" test next week. Depending on what shows up and if I am still feeling positive and well I will have another go in August so won't be far behind all of you lot. Well done Alison on starting treatmeant. You sound Positive and happy and that is a great start. Lou I have been thinking of you and your sister's new baby. It really strikes a chord with me and I am sure with many of us. I know this must be a hard time for you. I have n't really got any tips on how to deal with it. I have two nephews the first of which was born a couple of weeks after my first negative cycle. I too found it so very hard. However, three years on even though I still have bad days eg last weekend after they left. I must say I really adore them and I think I am closer to my sister than ever. We have been quite open with each other and she has been a brilliant support to me through my bad times. Like wise things have n't been a bed of roses for her and at time she has found motherhood difficult. It is funny because our problems are so diverse but I think by being honest about it somehow it has helped. I don't see my family very often as they all live in Irealnd so I suppose when I do the time is precious. It is early days for you and your sister and I suppose you can only deal with it in a way that is best for you. I am sure she understands that. Be good to yourself and take your time regarding the new baby. Anyway, don't want to go on and on. Like the rest of you a bottle of wine in the garden beckons. Wishing every one of you the very best. Keep writing. Love Gracex

caz · Post by **caz** » Sat Jun 28, 2003 6:55 pm

HI guys hope you dont mind my butting in! Am cycling at the mo - had ec on friday - not waiting to hear news on any potential embies (3 egss fertilised but waiting to see if any cleave) this is my first time - so am a complete amateur, but I have been exercising, am quite an exercise alholic and would have found if tought to stop - plus as has been said it v good relaxant (I had COMPLETELY UNDERESTIMATED THE STESS FACTOR!!). Altho obviously didnt do any exercise after ec - bit sore on the old ovaries!! Injections are totally ok - I was on daily puregon - no probs really, quite spotted and bloated tummy ie just like PMS. Booze, ah !! Not so good! Have really really cut down and now even go several days without a glass of vino.....woohoo!!!! but thats about it - havent cut out completely. I have sort of taken the view that if I did I'd obsess about it even more, and also....all the drugs we are taking I suspect it kind of overrides the effect of a glass or wine!! Tried acupunture- not really for me. But the acupuncturist did say its meant to be a very good idea to have it done on day of et Have been having reflexology - AMAZING AMAZING. The most relaxing thing ever , and I am sure really stimulated by ovaries (got 13 eggs which was more than I thought I'd get) other than that have been drinking water, taking asprins and folic and various other vits , oh and drinking the ROUGHEST chinese tea! Guess I'll find out pretty soon if any of it worked Best of luck to you guys Cazx

Sue25 · Post by **Sue25** » Sun Jun 29, 2003 11:29 am

Hi Girls Well I not been on the site for a couple of days and it,s all looking very busy for July .I have my scan tomorrow (11 days of injections)the injections and everything is getting to me abit, I keep bursting in to tears and I feel so tired,DS as been very good and is just feeling at i bit of a loss what to do ( all I want is big hugs and for him just to be there)I keep thinking what if is canceled tomorrow I know I have to be more postive .Well the clinic is at 12oclock so I,m going to take the day off i was going to go in for the morning but I think i will have a extended weekend .Hopefully EC will be Wednesday or Thursday I think ,what happends if its Thursday or Friday when do thay do ET is the clinic (Lister )open at the weekends ? Hope all well love & best wishes to you all Sue

Dawn Blake · Post by **Dawn Blake** » Sun Jun 29, 2003 6:39 pm

Hi Sue Good luck and will be thinking of you tomorrow. With regards to the Lister, I am having my treatment there this time round and when I went for a scan on Thursday they did mention that they do ec's and et's on Saturdays, but they didn't say anything about Sunday's so who knows. Will have fingers and toes firmly crossed for you! Caz - your post really made me laugh! Purely the slight guilt that came our that you are still drinking - I go by the saying A little bit of what you fancy does you good, and if you would be more stressed without it, then it can only help! As for excercise, I have still been doing a daily workout, but tummy is starting to get that all too familiar stitchy feeling (those follies are growing already, I swear!), so will just lighten up the CV a bit, and knock the abs on the head for a while, but I will not stop, it makes me feel better! Got my reflexologist back from holiday tomorrow (my Mum - very handy!), so will be back on my twice a week treatment, and I can't wait! The number of times she has had to leave my in her treatment room, or in my bedroom, where I have completely zonked out - it's just as well she is my Mum!! Also drinking the chinese tea, not the best cuppa in the world, but if it helps?! Grace - Good luck with the test next week. Thinking of you all, have a great week! D x

louli · Post by **louli** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 1:43 pm

Dear Girls, Feeling especially crap I'm afraid. Still no sign of AF and now 9 weeks since last period and op. Have also had anothe bout of thrush type symptoms- never really a sufferer before this year but since surgery have had it three times - at first put it down to all the antibiotics etc.Tried the live yoghurt thing but resorted to pessaries of clotrimazole for 3 days although last time they tested for candida it was negative. Today there seems to be some blood and I have odd AF pains but not enough blood to make me think it is AF and I am not sure where blood coming from. Weird? Anyone, any info on this?? Grace, thanks for words re your sister.The honesty thing is exactly where it all went wrong as my sister told everyone except me that she was pregnant and I only found out when she was 5 months. Yesterday I discovered that she had told my DH 2 months before I found out and he had decided not to tell me. Naturally I completely flipped. Felt so betrayed by all of my family like I was being excluded. I guess he was trying to protect me but got it soooooo wrong. Dawn, Do you know what your chinese tea is? Is it just green tea or special chinese herbs? I have been having AP but not sure it is helping much Sue, thinking of you today. Hope all is good. CAZ, thinking of you for your ET. sOUNDS like reflexology is the way forward to get those follies growing. Alison, odd how we get so excited about the arrival of AF!! In days gone bye I think most of us probably dreaded it. Let us know what is happening with your FET. GOOD LUCK, Bye for now, Lou

Sue25 · Post by **Sue25** » Mon Jun 30, 2003 3:38 pm

Hi Girls well its not good new I had a scan today and no response at to all those injections I,m on day 11 today I started on gonal-F 3 amps,day5 i had a blood test when it was increased to 4amps for 6 days I thought that my cycle would be cancelled but my consultant has said to change to Menogon on 6 amps I had a blood test today and I see him again on Friday afternoon after another blood test( Friday morning )I don,t understand as anybody had a cycle like this I thought that after about day 14 it would be cancelled love Sue

Dawn Blake · Post by **Dawn Blake** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 8:27 am

Lou - I cam imagine how cast aside and hurt you must have felt, being left out of such lovely news, but I can also see their side too, and they were only trying to protect you - I would be furious though, I have to admit, but mainly because I hate people tip-toeing round me with regards to babies, it drives me insane! The tea Dr Zhu gives me is a ready made chinese tea, in bag form (so I don't have to do the witchy thing and boil up loads of twigs!), it is called Smart Mate Tea, nad is 100% natural herbs, and obviously caffeine free. Gingko Biloba Leaf and Ginseng, and isn't too bad tasting! I also drinks lots of other herbal teas, just to keep me away from fizzy drinks, caffeine, and to keep my fluid intake up. Caz - how are you doing, are you still off work? My Mum asked me to find out what areas your reflexologist specifically concentrates on during treatment, does she stimuate the ovaries etc or the hormone pressure points? With such good results she had to know, as when I have mine done it is purely for relaxation and de-stress. Sue - At least it hasn't been cancelled, I can't answer your question I am afraid, as I haven't heard that before - did the hospital not indicate anything? I am feeling particularly bloated today, I can't remember if that is normal as I have only had 5 x Gonal F injections (3 amps per jab), but my tummy has got that real stitchy full-up feeling - hope the scan on Thursday will show lots of follies so they will ec sooner rather than later. I am supposed to me going onto Menogon too,the combo of GF and M is supposed to be really good, has anyone else heard this theory? Keep in touch! D x

caz · Post by **caz** » Tue Jul 01, 2003 8:36 am

Hi D re the reflexology, concentrated alot on my uterus and ovaries (this was pre ec) havent had any since then We really intersting - I had it done a couple of months before I started tmt and I could tell what side I was going to ovulate from , by how much it Killed when she pressed the ovary point on my ankle. Of course I dont know for sure if thats the reason they got a reasonable number, but it was nice, relaxing and interesting. So yes she did the actual ovary and uterus bits quite alot and I think she also did the hormonal bits too - theres a bit in the middle of my big toes that she seemed to spend a long time on By the way - my herbalist/ acupuncture lady said that acupuncture immediately pre and post et is also meant to help. I didnt do it because my planning was thrown out by et being earlier than I thought. But its definately worth a mention! Good luck Cazx

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