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Post by DebraP »

Jo, I'm so so sorry.

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Jo so sorry to see your news. Take care of yourself and dh.

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Anna x
Me 44, DP 42 ttc 3yrs
7 cancelled IVF cycles during 2005/6
ED tmt at IM June 06 BFN
ED tmt at IM July 06 BFP
Matthew born 23/3/07
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Jo, so very sorry to hear your news. Thinking of you and DH, take care of each other,

LOL Bev xxx
4 m/c
Precious daughter stillborn @ 32 weeks
2 x IVF with own eggs
Now turning to DE tmt end of May.
BFP 13th June 06
Blessed with beautiful son William born 23rd Jan 07
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Post by Sand »

Jo, I'm sorry it's not worked out this time. I know how much it hurts. Be kind to yourselves.

Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
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Post by 032323 »

Jo - I am really sorry for you and know exactly how you feel!!

We just have to try again - hopefully we will be cycling together next time!

Take care.

Caz x
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Post by teachertam »

Jo: I'm so very sorry for you and DH. It is very sad when we get our hopes up and the AF comes to dash them.

Donna: Unfortunately, I did not get you personal message. I do not get my treatments in Chicago. I had to go to Chicago for a funeral. I go to Reproductive Endocrinology Associates in Indianapolis, Indiana.

AF is coming! This has the been the weirdest cycle yet. I spotted last Sunday and have been cramping and bloated ever since, but still no AF.

DH and I just got back home from Chicago and I am exhausted. We have our social worker coming Saturday morning for our home study.

I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend.

Tammy
Me 46/DH 48 (12/05 & 3/06: IVF#1/#2: BFN)
6/06:Nat. Preg.-DS 2/07; 12/08 IVF#3 fet -BFN
5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
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Post by donna99 »

hi guys,

hope you are all doing ok & would like to offer you all the luck in the world. & im sorry for nipping across to this thread, i dont normally post here....

thanks so much tammy for replying to my question & im so sorry that i got confused that your clinic was in chicago & you actually went to a funeral in chicago......im sorry for being insensitive.

thanks again & good luck ladies,

lol Donna x
Me31 minor endo,DH34,TTC 4.5yrs,
2 -tive iui's, 4 -tive IVFs & 3 cancelled cycles & 1 natural miscarriage.
#5th IVF May'06.BFP .Baby boy born 3/2/07.then nat preg little brother 4 first born, baby boy born 10/3/08!!!!!! WOW! & NOW VERY BUSY!!!
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Post by AMck »

Hi Ladies , happy Saturday!

Our List
New 40+ Mommies:
Alette (own eggs). Son Nov 05
Jude - twins (DE) 05
Joy - twins (DE) 05
CarolineP - Daughter Nov 05
Squew - twins 05

Ladies in waiting
Debbieed - own eggs, BFP August 05. EDD - April 06?
BigJ (Jules) - BFP 9/12/05 - EDD 15/08/06 praying hard
DPerry (Donna). DE. BFP July 05
Debra - BFP 20 Feb. Scan 10th March.

On meds/about to start:
Diane - start meds 28th Feb.
Kat - Going to Spain 2nd March for testicular biopsy for new DE tmt
Tammy- SIS 9th Feb, IVF 2 March

Preparing:
Amfy - FET March/April
Bev- Visit to IM 16th Feb re DE tmt, considering options
Gail - planning March IVF
Jen - Taking time out then, next IVF in May...
Robyn - 2nd IVF cycle in March
Anna - Short IVF protocol in March

Recent cyclers:
Lisa - BFP Feb but sadly lost at 5 weeks after DE
Caroline - natural FET cancelled Feb, failed thaw.
Sandra - (honorary 40+ member) BFN, hugs
Randa - BFN hugs
Caz - BFN hugs
Jo - BFN hugs

Tammy, hope all goes well with the home visit today.
Kat, not long now. How long do you have to stay away? You mentioned that a new clinic had ben set up here. Is it near where we live?
Debra, how are you sweetie?
Has anyone heard from Zippy, Jane, Lara or Michelle? Hope they are OK.
Bev, are you there ??? Any decisions yet on tmt in Spain?

Me, AF came on the exact day I didn't want it! A few days earlier or later would have been fine!!! GGRRR There are 52 weeks in a year, the odds of me wanting tmt the week the clinic is closed have to be enormous, you wouldn't bet on it! Unfortunately this means you ladies have to put up with me going on and on about my stupid AF for another month..sorry :oops: Trying to stay positive but to be honest PMA rather low today. :( Off to have a massage and a facial to cheer myself up...then off to watch the rugby with some friends. Come on England!!

Big hugs to all on this thread
Bye for now
Anna x
Me 44, DP 42 ttc 3yrs
7 cancelled IVF cycles during 2005/6
ED tmt at IM June 06 BFN
ED tmt at IM July 06 BFP
Matthew born 23/3/07
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Post by Kat »

Hi, couldn't log on last night for some reason...

Jo - so sorry to see your message - sadly we know how you feel and it's not easy.

Debra - how are you doing?

Anna - the new clinic is in Raynes Park - I emailed them & they do tmt with donor eggs in conjunction with a programme in Cyprus. As they said, and I quote, "As you may understand, getting egg donors in the UK is difficult due in part to anonymity laws". And my GP wonders why I went to Spain!

DH back tomorrow! Seems a long time since I saw him (2 weeks) - will be nice to be back to normal. Spain on Thurs, just for the day. Fly at 6am & get home 11pm - will be tiring but it was cheap so that's a plus. And at least I won't be the one being poked around for once (is that naughty of me?!)

Hi to everyone else too, hope you're all OK
Lots of love
Kat xx
Me & DH both 41
ICSI #1 - abandoned
#2 - cancelled - DH accident
#3 - 1 transferred, bfn
#4 - 2 transferred, bfn
#5 - abandoned
#6 - no eggs at EC
#7 - DE in Barcelona - bfp but lost Dec'05
#8 - DE UK - bfn
#9 - FET Sept/Oct '07....
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Post by BevT »

Hi everyone, happy Saturday!

Kat, your GP sounds v.much like mine, a complete arse. Gosh, I didn't realise you were just going to IM for the day - it will be tiring. Poor DH, I hope his "bits" won't be too uncomfortable for the flight home. As you say tho, it's nice for you not to be the one bing poked about, for a change. Good luck with it, and hope the trip goes smoothly.

Anna, I am here! I've been lurking for a day or two, not wanting to bore everyone to death over my dilemma "shall I, shan't I" and "Kiev v IM" etc etc. A friend of a friene e-mailed me from California the other day, singing the praises for her clinic. She had untold failed attempts at IVF, donor tmt, and eventually went for donor tmt and surrogacy. She has a beautiful little boy now, after about 6 years of heartache. The clinic looks good, but from what others have said about costs for DE tmt in the US, I thought it may be too expensive, and also such a long way to go for tmt from the UK. Still, another to be added to the melting pot to think about perhaps.

I have to say that at the moment, I am being pulled towards Kiev, not only because ISIDA do seem to come highly recommended but also the cost is very competitive. The thing with IM is that we were considering the 30,000Euros refund system, so if you don't succeed in achieving a pg past 12 wks, you get 75% back. Sounds great, but on the other hand, if you get pg on first attempt, but then say miscarry at 13 weeks, you have spent your 30,000 E's. You can't even use any frozens you may have got, without paying another 2,800 for FET. Bit scary, such a lot of money to risk. So I'm thinking that perhaps we should limit ourselves to 3 seperate fresh DE cycles, and at IM that would cost us 3 x 9,500 E's with no prospect of money back at the end if we fail, or 3 x approx 5,000 E's at Kiev (ISIDA). Almost half the cost.

I am very close to deciding to go to Kiev on an initial consultation basis and use it as a fact finding mission also. In fact I think I can say that that is what I will do. Just have to organise myself, and book it!!

So sorry about your AF coming when LEAST convenient. That is what you call Sods Law. Try and stay positive, when you have waited so long, what is another month. I know, easier said than done, and if I was in your position, I would be equally peed off.

Best go, before this bloomin pc cuts me off again,

Hi to everyone else on this fantastic thread.

LOL Bev xxx
4 m/c
Precious daughter stillborn @ 32 weeks
2 x IVF with own eggs
Now turning to DE tmt end of May.
BFP 13th June 06
Blessed with beautiful son William born 23rd Jan 07
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Post by erjumper »

Jo,
So sorry to see your post. We're all here for you.
Debra,
How are those numbers doing? Feeling ok? Staying optimistic?
Lisa
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IVF's
#1 m/c 5 wks
#2 BFN
#3 m/c 9 wks
#4 m/c 8 wks
#5 m/c 5 wks donor eggs
#6 FET BFN
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Post by Jeni Babes »

Hi all

Jo my heart goes out to you...take care of you at such a difficult time...

Bev- good to hear you are at the next step of making a decision...it must be so difficult with all that info weighing up the pros and cons...Sending you ***intuition dust**** to help you on your way :D :D

Kat- good luck for thursday...i will be thinking of you
and you too Tammy.... fingers crossed x x

anna- Hugs ...what a nightmare you have had :? The only good thing is that you have had all the downs, so tmt (when it starts) can only go up UP UP....

A big Hi to everyone else....

I am going away for a few days , totally knackered afetr dad's stressful op then stroke. He is doing well know so i can slip away...Goin up North to scotland for some skiing as snow is predicted...Looking forward to it...enjoy your week everyone...

love
jen
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Post by Jo1962 »

Thanks everyone, for all your support, makes me feel a bit less alone...

F8ckng awful weekend, lots of tears from both of us :cry:, but feeling a little stronger now. Will be going for IVF #2, on same flare protocol, as soon as next AF starts, hopefully mid-march...

Out of interest, apart from Caz, who on this thread already has children?

Jo x
Jo - 43; DH - 37 (Toy Boy!)

Natural Pregnancy Feb 2005 - MMC 12 weeks
IVF #1 Feb 2006 - BFN
IVF #2 April 2006 - BFN
We are considering calling it a day...
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Hi Jo, sorry you feel like crap. Anything else though would be unnatural. I'm pleased to see you're all fired up and ready to go again.

Re. kids. I have a 2.5 yr old from our first IVF. I'll also answer for Randa as she's not been on for ages, she was a child bride(!) and has 2 daughters in their late teens.

Bev, did you book Kiev?

Jen, enjoy the skiing. I did some today, cross country though, I might as well as we have SOOOO much bloody snow.

Lisa, how are you doing? Thanks for asking about me. My HCG numbers are average at best, went for a 3rd beta today, result tomorrow pm. Hopefully it will show we just had a slow start, if they're still cruddy, looks like it could be another ectopic.

Hola Kat, I really hope Thursday goes well for you.

Lara, are you still with us? I saw you post elsewhere today, how are you?

Anna, so sorry your AF arrived precisely when you didn't want it to. Shame you couldn't have made money on it with a bet. Sorry to make light but it really was sod's law

Tammy, did AF arrive afterall? what happened at the assessment?

RANDA, you said you were going away for 'a couple of days' HELLO????? we need you on here, come back please!

Hi to everyone else, we must have more 'about to cycle' news surely?

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Debra
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Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
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Post by teachertam »

Hello All:

Debra: My fingers are crossed for you. Let us know when you get your results tomorrow. My AF is still not here. I already received my meds and am ready to begin after intial scan, but AF is not here. Today is cycle day 27. Normally AF is here by now. Our home study visit went great on Saturday. The social worker was here for 8 hours !!!!!!!
I had a headache when she left from all of that thinking and talking.

Jo: I'm glad you are going to try again soon. My last IVF was a bust in December. I'm going to start injections as soon as AF comes.

Jen: A holiday sounds nice. I'm glad to hear that your dad is doing better. Have a great time skiing.

Lisa: How has the adoption/foster program been going? I am so tired of all of this paperwork. I hope to be ready to submit our paperwork to China in April, unless I get pregnant with this IVF. If so, DH wants me to delay paperwork submittal for a few months. Otherwise we would have a 3 month old at home, when we are going to China to get our daughter.

Regards,
Tammy
Me 46/DH 48 (12/05 & 3/06: IVF#1/#2: BFN)
6/06:Nat. Preg.-DS 2/07; 12/08 IVF#3 fet -BFN
5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
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