Oct 05 Cycle Buddies

[Jen1d]

Oh Little R please cheer up, i don't like any of my little buddies to be sad.

Advice Alert - If i were you i would write a letter to your cousin and explain what's happened to you, miscarriage and all. If she still doesn't reply or call then i'm afraid she is heartless and i would not bother her again. As they say 'we can choose our friends but not our family'. Maybe you think this is a bit harsh but if you are being honest with her about whats happened then surely she should give you some respect and reply. Hope this helps. Try to relax and have some time for yourself, it's not good for your getting so stressed. I'm here for you anytime you need a chat.

Love Jen x

[little R]

Thanks a bunch Jen, I needed your advice alert.......
I am feeling better and look what I have found:

I will follow your suggestion and pen her a detailed account of what happened. Maybe then she will understand....and you're right... if she doesn't well, there is nothing more I can do about it.

I hope you're enjoying your Sunday? How is your house hunting going? Anything that you have seen that you have fallen in love with?
Virtual hugs to you my friend.

I am still in my pyjamas and it's nearly 11.30am..... disgraceful. My DH is around and so we are just hanging out..appreciating the slowness of our morning

Thinking of you Lola.... hope you're not being a dare-devil on skis

Steph...hope you're enjoying your weekend and Walshy, living it up on your 5th year anniversary...

MUCH love to you all,

Little R

[little R]

Almost forgot again

Question time please buddies...particularly for you Steph as you're in the US/East Coast: Answers are needed before tomorrow afternoon (6th).

My DH is travelling to NYC, but his layover is only 24hrs....so he doesn't have time to shop around.
I have been trying to get into IVF mood and therefore have been flicking through the West bible. I need to get some vitamins and some EFA to prep for my IVF and drugs are so expensive here.

Question 1: for all: did your doctors suggest you take any supplements before/during IVF...if so which ones? and which brands? If they didn't suggest any, did you self-vitamin?

Question 2 particularly for Steph: what drug store chain would you advise me to go to for the cheapest vitamins of the brand SOLGAR. Do you know by any chance?

Any other advice for supplements is welcome...

Thanks a lot for the help

Hugs & kisses

Little R

[Jen1d]

Hi gang on this lazzzzzy sunday morning.

Little R - So glad i could help with some advice, pleased to see you are feeling better. As for the vitamin thing, well i only take folic acid. Zita West suggests others but my hospital believe that if you are eating enough fruit and green veg then that should be ok, i tend to agree.

Lola - I'm so jealous of you on your happy hols while i'm stuck in snowy Scotland, freezing and feeling so tired. BOO HOO

Walshy - How was the Lurve Weekend? Hope you had lots of fun, we want the news haha.

Steph - How are you feeling? Hope your yucky cold has vacated your territory.

Well we went out with friends last night for dinner (she is pregnant with first baby, they weren't trying , now due in May, knew we were trying and i'm sure it's awkward for them too).
They are lovely and i am pleased for them but it was hard last night as they informed us the nursery is finished and they ushered us upstairs to look. It is gorgeous and although i smiled politely and made small chit chat i desperately wished it was us with everything ready for a new one arriving. The green monster stayed with me for most of the night in my bed----i keep telling myself we will get everything they have. PMA PMA
I hate feeling like that and am ok most of the time but when i meet up with them i struggle. Think its because they are good friends and have everything we want. Hope this cycle is successful as it will be hard when she has the baby in May if it is a BFN. PMA Jen PMA, so hard at times though. Must keep positive

A big hug for you all and thanks for listening to my little rant of jealous today.

Nearly forgot - Do you think it would be ok to continue with my Slimming World class so i can lose a stone. I exercise and eat healthily when on it so know this would be good but just want to know if the losing weigh part is ok. Am going to call the hospital about this on Monday. Thanks.

Love Jen x

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Little R- Quickie to try to make timeline.......

Let's start with vitamin advice, although with time difference not sure this is in time......

My doc did tell me to take a pre-natal vitamin, with 800 mg of folic acid. Other than that, no supplements, herbs, green tea advice. Advice he is very strict about- no caffeine during cycle and 64 oz of water a day. No exercise once you start the follie stims. Not even fast paced walking. This is the killer for me.... I love my yoga and step aerobics!

The big vitamin chain in this area is GNC. They have a pre-natal, although cheap they are definitely not. I have never heard of SOLGAR, so can't help you there.

Helpful?
Steph

[little R]

Steph and Jen...thanks a bunch for being there with your advice and suggestions.
Yes, Steph, you definitely made the deadline
DH is in bed for a couple of hours before pick-up takes him to the airport. He flies to JFK. Thanks a bunch for the advice. My Dr didn't give me any special recommendations, but I did not exercise. In fact, after a week into stimming I was finding it hard sitting down as my bottom half was quite sore....so didn't cross my mind to exercise

Well Octochicks....I have another story for you....not sure what to think...on the one hand I am thrilled for my friend and on the other I feel so desperately alone.

I can finally say, no one I really know ( and can physically touch ) is going through infertility.
I have a friend here in Dubai she was diagnosed with severe endo and at age 38 had been trying to conceive for over 8 years. She never believed in putting her body through a treatment because she disagrees with the stress it puts you under.
Anyway, to cut a long story short... I hadn't called/ seen her in over 4 months as I was going backwards and forwards to Switzerland and was before that in treatment. I had the feeling that she frowned upon my seeking clinical help and so I didn't share much of my emotions during that time with her. Well, as you can already guess, she tells me (I had a hunch something was up as I thought that she had adopted) that she delivered a baby mid January and until end of December she didn't even know she was pregnant. Her baby is a miracle...!!!!
She never had regular cycles and thought after about 7 months she should go to the doctor's to see whether all was okay. Additionally, she didn't put on much extra weight and has always had a bit of a belly.....
Basically, she had 3 weeks to get used to the idea that she was pregnant... and her baby was premature.... so voilà... in 3 weeks she got a baby...
I know this story sounds crazy... I hope it gives you hope...
I was really thrilled for her because she had suffered a lot from her infertility and had been trying for such a long time....
And then it dawned on me.....I felt so alone... I felt physically alone... it was a really terrible feeling.

I miss not having someone here I can physically contact.... do you know what I mean?
My DH is terrific and the sweetest and most sensitive person I could be around... but I wish someone female was in the same boat as I... I mean that I could share with physically..

I know, I know...I must sound a bit dotty... but just feel really lonely.
I realise that you are my friends...but wish we could actually meet.

Anyway....that's my news.... day after tomorrow I am flying back to the land of the cheese for about 2 weeks. Internet access is not easy... so may be online sporadically there...

Much love to you all,
Will write a last message tomorrow

Little R

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Octopoos!

Group hug please! Life is getting on my last nerve, and I mean last. I have only one left at this point....
The Marsupial is constantly adding stress to my life, I have enough on my own!

Little R- How dare you leave again so soon! You just got back lovey.
So, I totally get the- you are the last person on desert island, you are without grass skirt and coconut bra, everybody else is on Fantasy Island, decked out in Magnum PI shorts and flowered top enjoying fruity drinks and pig roasting over a spit.... Loneliness. I feel completely alone in this most days- you girls really are my sanity. DH isn't as invested as he could live without kids if he needed to. So, he doesn't understand my desperation. My friends of course do not either. They have kids. Just remember as I try to..... we have each other!! I am considering asking my fertlity clinic if they know of a support group. I am really at the end of my rope on this. Just keep hanging on love!

Jen- I hate visiting nurseries and the like! So jealous of their happiness that it sours me. My sickness is better. I will go to step class tonight before I teach my yoga class- that will be the true test!

Still no good egg/bad egg results!! UGH!

Gotta run....
Steph

[little R]

Octochicks my darlings!
I will be gone until 22 March, but will try and find a way to participate in the discussion....just not sure how at the moment.
Please know that you will all be in my thoughts....

Steph, love: I'll miss you greatly. Hang on in there. You're the best and you deserve this child so very much. Hope to read good news about your egg quality soon...
Thank you for reminding me that we have each other.
I am mentally hugging you and sending you the finest rays of sun.
I think you should go to a support group if one is available. I wouldn't hesitate as I could do with the company.....I checked at my clinic and given the cultural/religious differences between the locals and the expats, one has never been set up. There is no counselling either
I am actually toying with the idea of launching a support group. My DH is very supportive of this idea as he feels isolated too.
So when I go on 25th March for my appointment I will maybe stick my phone number up on the board and see what happens.

We are in this together right?

Jen, sweets: How are you feeling? Any symptoms to share?
You're one brave girl .... couldn't face seeing a nursery...that would just send me over the edge!
I don't think you're jealous...you're human. It's only normal to be envious when we strive so hard to get what we want.
So you have snow in Scotland? I'll be thinking about you. I am headed back to cold climates too.... lots of snow fell in Switzerland this past week....
Any news on the househunting front?

Walshy: wow...that must be some romantic weekend....great how it's just running on into the week . Good for you!

Lola, love: well change of plans... and planes...will be landing in Zurich instead of Geneva so won't be able to experience your lovely French Hope you had a fabulous rest away from studies, routine and treatment. I think we are definitely ready to have you back
Please note that not once we were evicted from Page 1 and have remained in our usual slot You have taught us well.


Much love.... heaps of PMA and WAA to you all...

Don't forget about me whilst I am gone...


Little R

[little R]

Oppps Octoblerones...I nearly forgot... before I leave...please please pretty please help me keep your dates in my head...

Fill out or correct the info below if/when you have those important dates so I can keep them in my mind more easily:

Lola: downregging, 28 March ET
Steph: waiting for egg quality results
Walshy: cycling May
Jen: downregging, 9 March baseline scan

Much love......

Little R.... as Steph has mentioned....let's be lonely together

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Hey Girlie Twirlies!

How is the brat pack? So many off and about on little adventures! I need an adventure... a trip with Peter Pan to NeverNeverLand might be nice. I could pick up a Tinkerbell and some magi-fairy dust. It's either NeverNever or CleverClever Land for me!

I still do not have my results about my eggs!! It is beginning to drive me bonkers. They said 2 weeks- well I had it done 2 Thursdays ago.... whatz up wit dat? I need my test results back so DH can get his test done if mine comes back OK. And we need his done before I can start the cycle. I am going to get the witchy woman visit anyday now. Sore boobs? Check! Craving of all things chocolate? Check! Roid Rage like symptoms? Check! Check!..... If this stops me from starting my cycle I am going to be P-O'ed!

Little R- don't cry for you Argentina! You are going to be gone for very long time in post 'em time.... Will miss you. Tear.

Jen- I won't be in tommorrow, so if the posted date is in fact correcto- mundo, GOOD LUCK for baseline scan on Thursday sweety-pie hunny bunch! All crossable, bendable parts twisted for luck! Check in and give us an update will ya?

Walshy- I agree with Little R- must have been one hella weekend! You must be paralyzed from waist down going that long and strong! Come back! Someone needs to entertain me during Lola and Little R's abandonment.....

Speaking of the Devil went down to Georgia lookin for a soul to steal.... How is my Lola Luvy? Shouldn't you be back soon? How was the trip? Relaxing, fun, romantic, everything you hoped for and more? Let's have it in blow by blow detail. Demetrio was very upset that you left him hanging at the airport.... tsk, tsk.

Daisy if you do,
Steph

[Walshy]

And i'm back to civilisation....... The only good thing was to check how you were all doing in your little parts of the world....

Steph - Any results yet? I hate when they say oh call back in 2 weeks but then still nothing, I am hanging out for my IVF book order from amazon (so not the same thing) and it feels like forever. Maybe if you wish hard enough Peter Pan will visit you...better still rent out Neverland and drool over Johnny Depp it's sort of like the Peter Pan story.....

Lola - I hope you are also having a great time on your little adventure. I miss reading your funny posts luckily 1 half of the comedy act is here and Steph keeps me highly amused with hers. I think it is the only thing that is keeping me sane. Hows the downregging going? Any lovely sideeffects that have been different from last time. Hopeing everything is getting thicker before the big ET.

Little R- Have a great Holiday! So what happened with your cousin. Have you heard anything yet? I think sometimes unintentionally we isloate ourselves as a coping mechanism. I have found i am only doing things with friends that do not have kids and if those people fall pregnant I am avoiding them. I hope your cousin reads you letter and you start talking again. as the other girls have said your not alone you have us who although we are in all different coutnires are doing the same thing feeling exactly the same as you. If only we were all awake at the same time so we could have a chat on MSN or this site to vent and laugh together. In regards to the vitamins my clinic has in bold lettering to only take folate as the other drgus have been known to interfer with treatment. DOn't know if it is there way to make sure you fall pregnant with IVF or they don;t want people falling pregnant on the more natural medicines as that would put them out of business.

Jen - I think your a strong women to be able to look at someone baby nursery. Luckily i have not had to do this yet otherwise i think i would be physically sick. WE have all been there and i am sure will be there agin until we are happily pregnant.

Well as I suspected we went to the vineyards a few hours drive from Sydney and spent the weekend drinking fine wine in a spa. My DH also brought me an enternity rind (lots of bling) and took me hot air ballooning. I think he feels slightly sorry for me as it is taking us so long to have a baby that he wanted to spoil me. The downside of this weekend was the 3kgs i lost have been put back on due to my PCOS. I seem to have lost the same 3kilos 3 times this year if only the buggers would stay off i would have lost my 10kilos to start back at the clinic again. It also dawned on me that we have been trying for child for over 5 years now which as I came off the pill a couple of months before we got married. I'm trying not to think of the time lost but the future and what it entails......
Ok ladies it's time to go to work so until next time take care, Walshy.

[Jen1d]

Hi Octoberies

Advice Alert - Don't buy Hello magazine this week. Unfortunately my gorgeous DH brought it home for me as i like to catch up with all the celeb gossip but it's full of pregnant women, new babies and most annoyingly Geri Halliwell going on about how she is pregnant by accident. Makes me so p-s--d off that noone even wanted to go out with her as she is so annoying let alone marry her and she is now pregnant----BY ACCIDENT.

Vent now over, everyone is safe to come out again.

Walshy - Queen of Bling, glad you had a fab time . I know about the weight thing, it's so hard to be good all the time and i keep thinking if and when the ivf works i will then be a big bloater--but for all the right reasons. Good to have you back.

Steph - What about the egss????? Your clinic needs a bit of a kick, give them hassle my friend. Am all for the group hug but as i keep saying, can it be in hot Dubai with Little R?????? Has been snowing here and i'm freezing. Keep thnking about Zita West saying the tummy area must stay warm but how many jumpers can one person wear, answers on a postcard please.

Lola - Hope your having loats of fun, we are thinking of you and sad without you .

Little R - Sun, please send me sun . Thank for your positive story, hope these things land on the Octoberies door too. You seem so down at the moment but stay with us, we will be here for you anytime with a big hug. One will be flying over to Switzerland via the cheese for you today .

Away to get ready for my acup today again. Hope i will be sooooo relaxed by the time i return. Toenails have been painted in preparation for this and my scan tomorrow, Lola would be sooo proud.

Chin up girl. Remember good things come to those who wait.

Love Jen x

[little R]

My sweeties..... only have a few minutes but have been reading through your posts...will NOT abandon you this time around!

Will try and post more later when I have got my act together....

Good luck Jen with the baseline scan... .... I read HELLO on the plane ride over Yes, wringing Geri's neck at this point sounds like a good idea

Steph love.... it's unhuman to make you wait this long...can phone harrass the clinic until they reveal their findings! ??

Walshy.... love the idea of an eternity ring; your DH sounds amazing and super to hear that he is treating you to ONLY the best .... wow... perfect...sorry about the kgs....

Lola - love... am here in snowy Switzerland...where art though? We need you back otherwise poor Step has to work overtime to get our laughs up and running every day. She could use less pressure at the moment Hope your minibreak was absolutely fab!


Much love to you all... will try and log on as frequently as possible

Little R

[Jen1d]

Hi gang

Well half an hour before my scan i had some spotting so called the hospital. They said i didn't need the scan as i have only been on medi for 10 days so the appointment should not have been sent out as i have to have my AF first. Have to go next Fri 17th for the scan and will start downregging that night.
The good thing about this is that i can now spend the whole day with my lovely DH househunting as he took the day off.

Lurve you and leave you. Away to the chemist for my box of Emla haha

Jen x

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Hello Fairy Dusts!!
How's my nutters?

I have decided that life is just not working for me at the moment and i will be joining the nunnery! Life in a convent for me.... better yet a monestary- then I would never have to talk to another stupid, annoying person ever again! Picture me in brown hoodie with giant rope about the waist. What are they hiding under there anyways? I personally think it is sexy lingerie with thigh highs and g-strings. No? As Demetrio was abandoned by Lola-Lewy at the airport, he will be joining me. The brown hoodie will allow for his ever expanding wasteline as he has fell off the cheesy fries wagon! No longer svelte and mysterious, Lola will need a Demmy bootcamp upon her return.... He has even taken to little raft again while sporting tiny speedos. Keeps repeating phrases like "would you like more sunscreen" and "hey, let's see what's under that grass skirt".... I think he is hallucinating from days of being stranded.

So, I just rang the clinic to strut my importance and demand that my results be top priority..... unfortunately, I was reminded that I am of little importance and given the nurses voicemail.. Drat! Still waiting.... waiting... waiting.....

Jen-Bug! What a crock that appt was mis-scheduled, painted toe-nails and all.... also- you girls have always confused me with the d-regging jargon. What are you saying? Is that when you begin the follie stims? Or is that when you shut down all systems? Systems a go-go? Good luck with search for dream home... Prices of houses in the US are completely insane right now. Hope is better where you are. Luck to my love! Also, have not heard of Hello magazine, so am safe on that front.

Little R- how lovely to see you here. Come here often? Great news that you will be checkin in. Hope you are whippin that house into shape and havin some fun too....

Walshy- what a site for sore eyes to have you back. Weekend sounds like a big ol ball of fun! The wine, the spa, the balloon..... Hope you gave DH some extra nooky for the wooky with that effort! I know how you feel about coming back though- its absolute crap after a great escape..... Don't sweat the extra curves though- You look fabulous from here darlin!

Lola Bird! I order you back immediately. Am getting the shakes from Lola withdraw......

From the Hood,
Steph