Well today is a shitty day! Just came back from a scan and now there are only two follies. I would like to change to an IUI but we have to check my DH sperm. The first two samples were fine but this last one was of poor quality. The Dr told me i should continue with IVF with the two follies because i haven;t many eggs left. Where there is a chance i should take it even as slim as it is. I have been resistant to two stimming cycles and i am on the max drugs they can give. He also told me steriods wouldn't increase the amt of eggs. Basically i feel I don;t have many options.
I am tired of this but still not ready to quit.
Gail, How is the waiting going? lots of PMA to you
Tammy have you had ET yet? Glad you have several to transfer!
Looks like my EC will be Fri if i continue. I can;t make a decision.
Robyn
The Over 40 Crowd
Lara, one word...soup. Drink homemade soup whilst you're feeling rough. I've a batch of red lentil and fresh ginger in the freezer that was so darn easy to make and fab-u-lous to eat. If your throat is that sore, stick to fluids. Or garlic mash or custard....BTW, it was me not Bev going on about food.
Re. triplets, there have been 3 sets on here that I know of but I don't think any of them got to full term for different reasons. An ex-friend was expecting triplets after taking clomid for just one month - she was a twin and hell bent on having twins herself, she had no fertility issues but managed to get hold of clomid and never even told her husband she'd taken it....one of the triplets didn't make it to the first scan but she went on to have twins.
Excuse the long winded pity party but I feel very sorry for myself. It has really started now and is deeply painful. I was lulled into a false sense of security yesterday with a very gentle start. Last night was awful and today is no better, but I know it will stop - eventually. Not helped by DF getting a really bad stomach bug at work last night, he's still not well and off work today and so it's me doing all the running around, shopping, taking DD to nursery etc. I want to be the one wrapped up with a hot water bottle taking it easy, but I'm not. I made it to uni today but sat and winced in pain throughout, at least it passed the time. I wonder when or if it's going to hit me? I'm either completely cold and dispassionate about this or have developed super-thick skin over the m/c. Or...I'm in denial - even now the bleeding has started, I've still only cried once, briefly at the first scan last week. Today I sat at break opposite a woman due next week and next to someone else saying loudly that 2 of her friends were unhappily newly pregnant and hahaha, it's contagious and watch out we'll all be pregnant soon. I keep thinking 'uh oh, here will come my tears and outburst' but nothing.
Sorry to go on. I really can't whine to other people about how I feel as they've not got a clue what to say back. Thanks for reading this far....
hugs
Debra.
Re. triplets, there have been 3 sets on here that I know of but I don't think any of them got to full term for different reasons. An ex-friend was expecting triplets after taking clomid for just one month - she was a twin and hell bent on having twins herself, she had no fertility issues but managed to get hold of clomid and never even told her husband she'd taken it....one of the triplets didn't make it to the first scan but she went on to have twins.
Excuse the long winded pity party but I feel very sorry for myself. It has really started now and is deeply painful. I was lulled into a false sense of security yesterday with a very gentle start. Last night was awful and today is no better, but I know it will stop - eventually. Not helped by DF getting a really bad stomach bug at work last night, he's still not well and off work today and so it's me doing all the running around, shopping, taking DD to nursery etc. I want to be the one wrapped up with a hot water bottle taking it easy, but I'm not. I made it to uni today but sat and winced in pain throughout, at least it passed the time. I wonder when or if it's going to hit me? I'm either completely cold and dispassionate about this or have developed super-thick skin over the m/c. Or...I'm in denial - even now the bleeding has started, I've still only cried once, briefly at the first scan last week. Today I sat at break opposite a woman due next week and next to someone else saying loudly that 2 of her friends were unhappily newly pregnant and hahaha, it's contagious and watch out we'll all be pregnant soon. I keep thinking 'uh oh, here will come my tears and outburst' but nothing.
Sorry to go on. I really can't whine to other people about how I feel as they've not got a clue what to say back. Thanks for reading this far....
hugs
Debra.
Me: 44, DH: 31
Game Over.
Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
Game Over.
Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
Hi Debra,
just to tell you that I posted a mesage for you at the parents side. By the way, I forgot to tell you that our hospital in the Netherlands maintained that FETs outcome at birth can be even better than fresh cycles, they did quite some research into birth weight and somehow FET babies were heavier than those the result of fresh IVF cycles (all else being the same - thus not twins). So don't write off your frosties yet - although I can imagine that at this stage you don't want to be too hopeful about them either.
all my love and sympathy and wishes for strength,
juliana
just to tell you that I posted a mesage for you at the parents side. By the way, I forgot to tell you that our hospital in the Netherlands maintained that FETs outcome at birth can be even better than fresh cycles, they did quite some research into birth weight and somehow FET babies were heavier than those the result of fresh IVF cycles (all else being the same - thus not twins). So don't write off your frosties yet - although I can imagine that at this stage you don't want to be too hopeful about them either.
all my love and sympathy and wishes for strength,
juliana
Debra - nightmare for you, hugs. It's always the case that women don't get to be the ill ones being looked after, somehow it never works out that way and we have to keep going no matter what. Soup's good idea.
Robyn- what a drag. I had that happen. I went to IUI because I normally get alot more eggs than two or three so they thought it would be worth saving the money/energy for another go. However, if you don't get more than that normally or there's no more money or energy to keep on and on, or they're saying your eggs are running out, maybe you should do the IVF. So many times I've seen people doing several IUI's with no result and then getting a result with IVF, maybe you should just do it.
Good luck anyway,
Lara x
Robyn- what a drag. I had that happen. I went to IUI because I normally get alot more eggs than two or three so they thought it would be worth saving the money/energy for another go. However, if you don't get more than that normally or there's no more money or energy to keep on and on, or they're saying your eggs are running out, maybe you should do the IVF. So many times I've seen people doing several IUI's with no result and then getting a result with IVF, maybe you should just do it.
Good luck anyway,
Lara x
Robyn, your post has listed before mine but wasn't there when I wrote. Sorry you're having a shitty day too. Have you looked at the results of DHEA on egg quality? there have been some trials in the US on older women and egg numbers have increased dramatically but from memory, it takes a good few months.
Whatever you choose to do this week with the follies, best of luck,
Debra.
Whatever you choose to do this week with the follies, best of luck,
Debra.
Me: 44, DH: 31
Game Over.
Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
Game Over.
Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
Hello to all
Debra, my thoughts and prayers are with you as you go through this shitty time. Please never ever worry about whining. We are all here for you. We know you are there for us too. Hoping for brighter times ahead. x
Kat I hope your little black cloud gets smaller and smaller until it lets the sun shine through. Good luck planning your adventure holiday. I went on safari to the Serengeti a couple of years ago. it was fab. I've also climbed to Macchuu Picchuu (Even if I can't spell it!) another thing to recommend. Going to Australia is a good idea too, so much over there. Ahh too many places to choose from. Love to hear where you decide, I'm a bit of a traveller, one advantage of being a teacher!
Tammy, Miss follie grower extraordinaire! , Good luck for Wed, hope all goes well.
Robyn, what a tiresome time you are having. Hope you can come to a decision soon. Good luck for Friday.
Our list
New 40+ Mommies:
Alette (own eggs). Son Nov 05
Jude - twins (DE) 05
Joy - twins (DE) 05
CarolineP - Daughter Nov 05
Squew - twins 05
Ladies in waiting:
Debbieed - own eggs, BFP August 05. EDD - April 06?
BigJ (Jules) - BFP 9/12/05 - EDD 15/08/06 praying hard
DPerry (Donna). DE. BFP July 05
Debra - BFP 20 Feb. No heartbeat, big hugs xx
Lara - BFP, history of m/c, hoping all OK
On meds:
Tammy- bumper crop of follies, ET Wed 22nd March
Gail - ET Tuesday 14th March on 2ww
Anna - starting stims Tues 21st March, short protocol
Preparing:
Kat - deciding next step
Amfy - FET March/April
Bev- Off to Kiev 30th March for tmt DE
Jen - Taking time out then, next IVF in May...
Robyn - 2nd IVF cycle in March
Lisa - FET May 2nd
Jo - 2nd IVF cycle esd 28 March.
Hi to Randa, Lara, Jo, Gail, Bev, welcome Juliana. Has anyone heard from Amfy?
I have updated the list. Good news from me for a change. I am starting stims tomorrow! After all the waiting and problems with cysts etc...I finally have the go ahead! Watch this space.
PMA to all
Bye for now
Anna x
Debra, my thoughts and prayers are with you as you go through this shitty time. Please never ever worry about whining. We are all here for you. We know you are there for us too. Hoping for brighter times ahead. x
Kat I hope your little black cloud gets smaller and smaller until it lets the sun shine through. Good luck planning your adventure holiday. I went on safari to the Serengeti a couple of years ago. it was fab. I've also climbed to Macchuu Picchuu (Even if I can't spell it!) another thing to recommend. Going to Australia is a good idea too, so much over there. Ahh too many places to choose from. Love to hear where you decide, I'm a bit of a traveller, one advantage of being a teacher!
Tammy, Miss follie grower extraordinaire! , Good luck for Wed, hope all goes well.
Robyn, what a tiresome time you are having. Hope you can come to a decision soon. Good luck for Friday.
Our list
New 40+ Mommies:
Alette (own eggs). Son Nov 05
Jude - twins (DE) 05
Joy - twins (DE) 05
CarolineP - Daughter Nov 05
Squew - twins 05
Ladies in waiting:
Debbieed - own eggs, BFP August 05. EDD - April 06?
BigJ (Jules) - BFP 9/12/05 - EDD 15/08/06 praying hard
DPerry (Donna). DE. BFP July 05
Debra - BFP 20 Feb. No heartbeat, big hugs xx
Lara - BFP, history of m/c, hoping all OK
On meds:
Tammy- bumper crop of follies, ET Wed 22nd March
Gail - ET Tuesday 14th March on 2ww
Anna - starting stims Tues 21st March, short protocol
Preparing:
Kat - deciding next step
Amfy - FET March/April
Bev- Off to Kiev 30th March for tmt DE
Jen - Taking time out then, next IVF in May...
Robyn - 2nd IVF cycle in March
Lisa - FET May 2nd
Jo - 2nd IVF cycle esd 28 March.
Hi to Randa, Lara, Jo, Gail, Bev, welcome Juliana. Has anyone heard from Amfy?
I have updated the list. Good news from me for a change. I am starting stims tomorrow! After all the waiting and problems with cysts etc...I finally have the go ahead! Watch this space.
PMA to all
Bye for now
Anna x
Me 44, DP 42 ttc 3yrs
7 cancelled IVF cycles during 2005/6
ED tmt at IM June 06 BFN
ED tmt at IM July 06 BFP
Matthew born 23/3/07
7 cancelled IVF cycles during 2005/6
ED tmt at IM June 06 BFN
ED tmt at IM July 06 BFP
Matthew born 23/3/07
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Good morning Ladies,
Wow, we woke up to 4 - 5" of snow on the ground. DH is outside using our snow blower, as we speak. It is supposed to snow throughout the day.
Robyn: How are your follies doing? Did you decide to do IVF or IUI? Remember, it only takes one good egg.
Gail: How is the 2ww going for you? When is your test date?
Debra: How are feeling? I hope you're feeling much better now.
Lara: How are you feeling? My fingers are crossed for you.
Anna: I'm so glad to hear that you are starting stimming today. What is your protocol this time? Are you doing the short protocol?
Lara: It is a shame that the UK only allows transfer of 2 blastocysts. In the states, it is up to your doctor. This morning my embryologist called me to tell me that I had 5 embies that made it to the morula stage! I'm hoping to have 4-5 that make it to blast for ET tomorrow.
Well, I'd better get off of here. I need to make breakfast for DH.
Take care,
Tammy
Wow, we woke up to 4 - 5" of snow on the ground. DH is outside using our snow blower, as we speak. It is supposed to snow throughout the day.
Robyn: How are your follies doing? Did you decide to do IVF or IUI? Remember, it only takes one good egg.
Gail: How is the 2ww going for you? When is your test date?
Debra: How are feeling? I hope you're feeling much better now.
Lara: How are you feeling? My fingers are crossed for you.
Anna: I'm so glad to hear that you are starting stimming today. What is your protocol this time? Are you doing the short protocol?
Lara: It is a shame that the UK only allows transfer of 2 blastocysts. In the states, it is up to your doctor. This morning my embryologist called me to tell me that I had 5 embies that made it to the morula stage! I'm hoping to have 4-5 that make it to blast for ET tomorrow.
Well, I'd better get off of here. I need to make breakfast for DH.
Take care,
Tammy
Me 46/DH 48 (12/05 & 3/06: IVF#1/#2: BFN)
6/06:Nat. Preg.-DS 2/07; 12/08 IVF#3 fet -BFN
5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
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6/06:Nat. Preg.-DS 2/07; 12/08 IVF#3 fet -BFN
5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
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Interesting Article on IVF & Aspirin
An old article, but interesting.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/329464.stm
I have dug out my apirin bottle and will be taking a daily dose throughout my next treatment. It can't hurt, can it...
Has anyone else heard anything else about this?[/url]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/329464.stm
I have dug out my apirin bottle and will be taking a daily dose throughout my next treatment. It can't hurt, can it...
Has anyone else heard anything else about this?[/url]
Jo - 43; DH - 37 (Toy Boy!)
Natural Pregnancy Feb 2005 - MMC 12 weeks
IVF #1 Feb 2006 - BFN
IVF #2 April 2006 - BFN
We are considering calling it a day...
Natural Pregnancy Feb 2005 - MMC 12 weeks
IVF #1 Feb 2006 - BFN
IVF #2 April 2006 - BFN
We are considering calling it a day...
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teachertam
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Girls: Thanks for all of the support!
The snow is so beautiful here. I am in my home office looking outside and the snowflakes are just awesome.
Jo: That article on aspirin was interesting. I would probably try it. It cannot hurt.
Tammy
The snow is so beautiful here. I am in my home office looking outside and the snowflakes are just awesome.
Jo: That article on aspirin was interesting. I would probably try it. It cannot hurt.
Tammy
Me 46/DH 48 (12/05 & 3/06: IVF#1/#2: BFN)
6/06:Nat. Preg.-DS 2/07; 12/08 IVF#3 fet -BFN
5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
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6/06:Nat. Preg.-DS 2/07; 12/08 IVF#3 fet -BFN
5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
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Hi Girls
2ww is doing my block. I dont seem to have any symtoms of sore breasts or anything. All I keep getting is dull aches similar to AF pains (I suppose I should get myself ready for the worst). Last time I had really sore breasts but then got a BFN anyway. Who knows! its the ups and downs of 2ww I know. I am trying to stay positive.
Tammy - I love the snow! we went to lapland and it was gorgous walking in in the snow. I wish i was back there!. Good look with you morulas! Hope they are all blasts tomorrow and transfer is a doddle. Then its welcome to the second part of the rollercoaster.
Robyn - I was faced with the decision of whether to proceed with the three follies or give up. I did proceed and am not enjoying the ride at the mo! Good look with your decision I know its not easy.
Anna glad you have started the ride!
Lara have you tested yet? Hope the BFP is getting stronger!
Debra how are you doing hope your feeling a little better.
Hi to Randa, Jo, Bev, Amfy& Juliana.
Gail
2ww is doing my block. I dont seem to have any symtoms of sore breasts or anything. All I keep getting is dull aches similar to AF pains (I suppose I should get myself ready for the worst). Last time I had really sore breasts but then got a BFN anyway. Who knows! its the ups and downs of 2ww I know. I am trying to stay positive.
Tammy - I love the snow! we went to lapland and it was gorgous walking in in the snow. I wish i was back there!. Good look with you morulas! Hope they are all blasts tomorrow and transfer is a doddle. Then its welcome to the second part of the rollercoaster.
Robyn - I was faced with the decision of whether to proceed with the three follies or give up. I did proceed and am not enjoying the ride at the mo! Good look with your decision I know its not easy.
Anna glad you have started the ride!
Lara have you tested yet? Hope the BFP is getting stronger!
Debra how are you doing hope your feeling a little better.
Hi to Randa, Jo, Bev, Amfy& Juliana.
Gail
Me 40, DP 29, DS 10
IVF 1st Cycle - May 05 -ve.
IVF 2nd Cycle March 06 -ve
IVF 1st Cycle - May 05 -ve.
IVF 2nd Cycle March 06 -ve
I'm doing OK thanks. Cramps continue, probably slightly weaker than yesterday. Should be gone soonish.
Today's dilemma is whether to visit a sort-of-friend later this week who gave birth today, she's no family nor friends here and except her DH + DC, won't have other visitors. Nice Debra would bite down hard and go, Not-so-Nice Debra will avoid maternity wards and new borns at all costs. I don't want to visit her when she's at home as I don't want to start up the contact again, any advice? She has no idea what's going on with me right now.
Snow? jeez, I'm sick to death of it. No real let up since November and we've had serious amounts over the weekend. My back garden is thigh high, the snow ploughs have created piles 5m high over the winter, despite a few semi-thaws...feels like it will never go. Last year's final garden snow went on April 21st....
Good luck Tammy with ET tomorrow.
Gail and Lara, our hopes are with you.
Debra.
Today's dilemma is whether to visit a sort-of-friend later this week who gave birth today, she's no family nor friends here and except her DH + DC, won't have other visitors. Nice Debra would bite down hard and go, Not-so-Nice Debra will avoid maternity wards and new borns at all costs. I don't want to visit her when she's at home as I don't want to start up the contact again, any advice? She has no idea what's going on with me right now.
Snow? jeez, I'm sick to death of it. No real let up since November and we've had serious amounts over the weekend. My back garden is thigh high, the snow ploughs have created piles 5m high over the winter, despite a few semi-thaws...feels like it will never go. Last year's final garden snow went on April 21st....
Good luck Tammy with ET tomorrow.
Gail and Lara, our hopes are with you.
Debra.
Me: 44, DH: 31
Game Over.
Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
Game Over.
Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
Sorry to butt in but I don't get much regular Debra "la bra" P (I told you I love that) contact and had to say, girlfriend! Unleash not-so-nice Debra on an unsuspecting world!! For once put yo bad self above others! Have a Karma holiday (as it clearly is) and please your having-a-*****-of-time self. And thats my professional advice sweetcheeks. Not those ones, bad girl.
Good luck to all others on this enduring 40+ sisterhood thread, sending a sack o welsh pixie voodoo for dream-come-true-ing-ness occurrences.
Love
Lola
xx
Good luck to all others on this enduring 40+ sisterhood thread, sending a sack o welsh pixie voodoo for dream-come-true-ing-ness occurrences.
Love
Lola
xx
me 39 dh 41
2 ivf, 3 fets - 2 bfn, 3 bfp (1 ectopic, 2 m/c @ 9wks and 12 wks)
3rd fresh ivf - bfp, fingers crossed
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2 ivf, 3 fets - 2 bfn, 3 bfp (1 ectopic, 2 m/c @ 9wks and 12 wks)
3rd fresh ivf - bfp, fingers crossed
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I am having the most stressful work time I can ever remember ever, lying awake at night fuming and trying to find solutions, but I just quickly checked in and I had to say, Debra, being nice to yourself is not nasty, it's looking after you which is correct behaviour - I can't think of anything anything worse than going to a baby ward to see someone who doesn't know wha tI've been through when I'm in the middle of m/c. That has got to be far too self-sacrificing for Mother Theresa, I'm sorry. That girl has got her baby, and a whole stack of nurses to look after her. I'm sure she'll cope. If you don't want to start the contact up again, now's a good time to start that approach.
Sorry!- went on a bit. Please look after you, though. Hugs xxxx Lara
ps Anna, so thrilled, good luck, everything's crossed
Tammy, you've hit the jackpot, jolly well done darling!
Love to all, Lara
Sorry!- went on a bit. Please look after you, though. Hugs xxxx Lara
ps Anna, so thrilled, good luck, everything's crossed
Tammy, you've hit the jackpot, jolly well done darling!
Love to all, Lara