JCB'S continued AGAIN!!!!!!!

Alison · Post by **Alison** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:17 pm

Oh Kat, I'm so sorry. It is just so hard, particularly if you made it all the way to test day with no AF. I can quite understand you doing a second test this morning. Even though I had a blood test confirming a negative I had this little fantasy the day after that they'd phone me up and say, "sorry, made a mistake, got your results muddled with someone else and its positive after all"! You and Rick will get through this together - you'll have good days and bad days but gradually you'll start thinking more about what's ahead than what might have been. I truely believe that you have to be a really strong person to face up to fertility problems and go through the IVF process, and that going through this with our partners means we can deal with whatever challenges life throws at us. So take care, keep strong, and believe that your time will come - one thing the JCBs have shown is that this really can work! And whatever else you do make sure you keep in touch! Much love Alison xx

Lynned · Post by **Lynned** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 4:55 pm

Hi Kat and Sharon, I normally post on the Aug Cycle buddies, but I have just read your messages and I wanted to just say how sorry I am to hear about you and dh's sad loss. I can't imagine what you are going through, we are only on our 1st IVF, but try to stay strong and positive because it will happen and you will look back on this time and it will all be worth it. Good luck and a huge big hug Lots of Love Lynne

nicolam · Post by **nicolam** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 4:59 pm

Kat & Rick, I am so sorry. Nothing can help at this moment when it's all too raw, but once the tears have started to run dry, you and Rick will start to get back to normal and have some fun together. Time will fly by and soon you'll be starting the next one, with the knowledge that it can and does work . I really wish you all the best for the next few weeks, so chin up and all that, and hope you manage to plan some nice things to do together, it's the least you can do for yourselves after the ordeal of IVF. Alison - just to repeat everyone elses thoughts on how admirable it's been that you've been coming back to the site to cheer everyone on. Have a very happy holiday. Nicola x

Lynned · Post by **Lynned** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 5:02 pm

Hi, Sorry my last message should have said Kat and Alison, it get so confusing with so many messages Love Lynne

Clara 1 · Post by **Clara 1** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 9:42 pm

Dear Kat and Rick I'm very very sorry to read your news. I hope you'll be able to start again soon and that the next time will be your turn for good news. You really deserve it. At least the successes of the week have proved how often it can work, with everybody's various problems and reasons for treatment. I hope you've got a bit of time off to spend together now, and to be good to yourselves. Spoil yourselves rotten. Take care of yourselves Sending you a big hug Love, Claire x

Dawn Blake · Post by **Dawn Blake** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 7:35 am

Dear Kat and Rick I'm so sorry to hear your devasting news, was hoping your absence on the site was for good reasons. Once the tears have dried, time will heal your sorrow and you can pick yourselves up and plan what to do next. Your relationship sounds incredibly strong, so at least you can confort each other, and while you are off the rollacoaster enjoy being a couple again without the agro's of the treatment, drink lots of wine and go out for lots lovely meals. Whatever you do don't give up, I have felt like throwing in the towel before, and now am so glad we kept at it, as I am sure you will!! Take good care of each other and thank you for being a great JCB. Keep us informed, it would be a shame to lose contact but understand if you need some time off from the site. Lots of Love Dawn x

kathryn · Post by **kathryn** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 8:50 am

just to let you know, I phoned clinic yesterday. She didnt know what the little fishy mermaid looking, raw chicken looking blob was. Apart from rest and taking a 3rd pessarie each day, she said they cant do anything until scan day. so its another 2 ww! but the bleeding which wasnt too much is starting to get more. I think if it wasnt for the pessaries I would have probably bled properly. The pg tests, which were stronger and obvious yesterday, will still say + even if you mc as the hgc stays in you. plus my boobs stopped being sore althoughthey ache a bit now, but that is probably af boob ache. take care all kathryn x not long now for you becky and dolly, but dolly, dont use up those hpt's! I get the feeling youre going to be using them before thursday ! try and be a good girl! [Edited by kathryn on 03-Aug-03 01:51]

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 10:34 am

Thanks to everyone for all your lovely messages, I don't know what I'd have done if I couldn't have talked to all of you. Rick has been so sweet and is really looking after me. AF has started this morning so now I really know it's all over and can't kid myself any longer. But perhaps that now means I can draw a line under this cycle and start thinking about the next (after a bit of a rest maybe). I'll be thinking of all of you, take care, & Alison - I'll see you next time round... Lots of love Kat x x

Dolly · Post by **Dolly** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 6:05 pm

Hi everyone Nicola and Susi and CONGRATULATIONS - it really has been a great month for the JCBs. You must be over the moon. I am so pleased for you both. Kathryn, I'm sorry you are still playing the waiting game. I have been there before and understand the agony you are going through. I am thinking of you and sending you every positive vibe possible. Kat, I was so sorry to read your post. Hopefully you will be able to start again soon and your last post sounded very positive - all the successes from the JCBs proves it does work - and it will for you too. Meanwhile enjoy some quality time together. Unfortunately I don't think it has worked out for me either. I have had AF pains for the last couple of days and then she reared her ugly head this morning (pretty light but quite a lot of it) - it came as quite a shock because I am not due to test until Thursday so I figured if she came it would be around Tuesday at the earliest. I have been crying all day - every soppy song I hear on the radio starts me bawling again. I am not holding out much hope but I will go ahead and test on Thursday because the hospital said I should do a test even if bleeding starts before. Alison and Kat, I hope we can be cycle buddies again next time as I have found the support from all of you invaluable. Becky, my fingers, toes, eyes and everything else I have that I can cross are crossed for you. I hope you manage to find a way to let us know your news from France. Love to all of you. Dolly

nicolam · Post by **nicolam** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 8:05 pm

Oh Dolly, it could still all be OK. You've only got to look back at some of the JCBs and they had blood and all of that and it still was OK - Dawn was a classic case. If you're taking the pessaries vaginally, maybe that's why it appears like 'lots'. It does seem too early for AF to start. Don't give up hope yet and wishing you a big fat positive on Thursday. Loads of luck Nicola x

Susi · Post by **Susi** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 8:07 pm

Hi Dolly, Thanks for the congratulations. I am still nervous as it feels as though AF may come at any moment. Kat so glad that Rick is being so supportive and I'm sure you will have better luck on the next cycle. Kathryn, hang in there.

kathryn · Post by **kathryn** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:17 am

hi, dolly just want ditto what nicola has said. I know that you have a muc better understanding of you body than any of us, but there seems to be a few jcbs who have bled. I just hope for you that your bfp is waiting for you on thursday. Both Susi and dawn thought af had arrived and look at them now! As for me. Im no longer playing the waiting game. my hpt this morning was as faint as my 1st test. There must be a slight trace of hcg left in my body. I know its over. im bleeding like af here now. I knew there was something wrong when I first tested. I want to see my consultant and ask about the bad fluid (maybe the hydraplinx thingy or something else) that doesnt give your embies a chance to cling on. Im very fortunate to have qite a few frosties so I want to get going with that. Im hoping that will be oct at the latest. But I know they like you to have a few af's first. I know I was lucky to get a +, but I still feel so sad. anyway thanks for all your support guys lots of love kathryn x

SJ BROWN · Post by **SJ BROWN** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 8:30 am

Sorry to but in Kathryn-you say they like to wait a few cycles before restarting. After my E/C (did not have ET due to OHSS) my clinic said I would bleed shortly after EC which I did & then after next period I could start again. They did not say waite a few cycles....DO you think this is because I did not have ET???? Thanks

Clara 1 · Post by **Clara 1** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 1:06 pm

Kathryn - what has your clinic said? This must be so agonising for you. Just wanted to let you know I just looked at my info from my clinic which said bleeding around the pregnancy test day (before and after) ranges from "brownish discharge to heavy bleeding" and doesn't mean it hasn't worked. Really hoping everything will still work out well for you this time Love, Claire x

kathryn · Post by **kathryn** » Mon Aug 04, 2003 3:51 pm

hi sarah, Yes, I think this was due to the fact et didnt happen. After my 1st ivf dh and I were heading for the divorce court! so wasnt in a rush, however at my follow up the consultant said he wanted a couple of af's before next go. by the way.....we didnt get to the divorce court!!!! thanks claire for your post. Had to ring clinic this morning as running out of pessaries and she said they wanted me to carry on in case. Apparently she had just had a lady in who had lots of bleeding and wasnt expecting to see hearbeat and there it was. i keep passing horrrible fleshy bits, which are really distgusting but as theres been at least 4, it cant be embies! However my hpt was much fainter this morning compared to saturday, which is a good sign my embies werent satisfied! sorry for babbling on, but who else understands the ivf frustrations better than you guys! lots of love kathryn x

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