Carolyn, just wanted to say thank you for being our thread-mother, you lift us all up when we are low. I'm sorry about the -ve POTS test. I also did mine yesterday and it too was a BFN. DH says to wait the full 2ww before believing the result, but I don't feel its worked. trying to be positive.
Lucy- I hope your ET went well. Rest up well.
Wendy - I hope you're feeling better. Good luck with your scan.
Dania - how are you going on your 2ww?
Heather - DH and I have also discussed life without children. We have a dog (DARCY-DOG is his name!) and we just adore him. He has filled the void in our life to some extent and the poor thing gets completely suffocated with all our love. It also helps when I go to coffee with girlfriends who have kids and they talk about what their kids do, I tell them Darcy does that too!
Sorry that I was so down the other night. We had spent the first part of the week excited and discussing baby names and then I just fell in a heap. I'm trying to be positive but the -ve POTS test has done more harm than good.
Good news is that I went to the supermarket and bought a bottle of sparkling grape juice, and it actually tastes like wine. I have been drinking that every time I've felt like a glass of wine and it does the trick!
Wishing you all a good week ahead,
Em
TTC 5yrs - Unexplained Infertility
3xIUI's (April, June & Aug 06) - BFN,s
1st IVF - Oct 06 - Jasper & Finlay born 07/06/07
Natural preg - Addison Grace born 15/10/08
Carolyn, I'm sorry to hear you're down - it's so unlike you! I will send you lots of positive, twinkly vibes until you do your test. Tell me which part of London you live in and I will make sure my vibes are being sent in the right direction . I hope with all my heart that you get your BFP. xxx
Age 30 DH 44
TTC 2 yrs
Male Factor Infertility
ICSI May 06 +ive
Lucybucy - Thanks for your support & kind words. I am in West Hampstead. I am pretty tough but guess that it is the treble whammy of bleeding, -ve test & just feeling suddenly like I am getting AF rather than being pregnant. Where in London are you & which clinic are you going to? I am at ivf hammersmith
Em - sorry that you did a HPT and did not get the result that we all hope for. They really are so evil. You sounds very early to test. I have been looking through loads of posts and some people get -ve and then a +ve just a couple of days later. We'll have to hang on in there together
Lucy - can see you are on the boards - what news on your ET? Can't wait to hear. Hope that you are resting well & not over doing it.
Sorry no personals, just wanted to let you know ET went well, 2 of my embies were 4 cells and the other was only a 2 cell, therefore could not be frozen. At least my babies are where they belong and are getting all snuggly now for the next 9 months..!
I am so bored resting, bofy has just gone to get some DVD's for me. Not back at work until Thursday, which is good, before I've taken two weeks off, but this time I've only taken 1 week.!
Right best get back to my lazy day in front of the TV..
Take Care everyone
I promise I will catch up soon and do personals..
Lucy
Me 26, DP 36. 1st IVF - June 05 - +ve - m/c at 5 wks
2nd IVF - Nov 05 - +ve - m/c at 8.5 weeks
3rd IVF -May 06 - BFN
4th IVF - Oct 06 -BFN
5th IVF - May 07 - BFN
Thank you all for the nice words. I am feeling better. And i accept the 2nd place:)
Luby- I am glad ET went well. Hopefully both embies stay in the belly for 9 mo! Now just take it easy and don't overstress.
Natalie Ann- Good Lu7ck with ER. How was the triger in the rear? I am not looking forward to having those huge niddles in my behind:). Sending you mature egg release-vibes:)
Em, as the others said, it's still early fot HPT. i knw I will prbably also crack up and will be POAS every day LOL
Carolyn- happy Anniversary again!! Ours was in March, I have almost a year before we can celebrate again. Hoepfully we find a miracle Pg to celebrate this month.
tiffichels- Wow, IM for stimmies. brbrb, go brave girl! i gave mislef one in the belly the other night, DH was late from work. I almost fainted. I was looking at the neddle and the liquid getting indide and stater feel weak and as soon as I was done just collapsed in bed. too funny.
Wendy- I am glad you feel better. Keeo yourself hydrated and eat plenty of vegetables and liquids. My HCG in in the rear, IM.
My update:
Today's scan:
left Ovary: 12,13
R Ovary: 15, 16, 17, 18, 19
Endometrium=-12mm
So, it looks that I made one more follicles. now I have 7! 2 of them are still little 12 and 13. What is the min size for them to contain mature eggs? Is that related? I think it is but never knew the size for it.
RE just called and HVG is NOT tonight. I keep taking the Gobal450+2vials Menopur. Cetrotide in the morning. I go tomorrow moring for another scan. it seems that you girls are not going so often. I go either every or every other day. I hope that's a good sign and not a bad sign me being a bad case requiring tons of attention:).
So, probably I will triger tomorrow. i hope the 2 smaller eggies grow and catch up. It seems it's a GO. My clinic requires min 6 follicles.
I have gained 2 pounds. (1kg). grg, my belly look soo huge I cannot fit in my jeans, the waist band bothrs be so much. it seems that the only comgortable clothes are sweat pants.
GL to all!!
Will update you tomorrow with more folli numbers.
Carolyn, So sorry to hear that you think things aren't going to work. I'm so glad you have plan b not too far away though. Maybe this week will work out a little different and you are just having implantation bleeding. Good luck sweetie and I know easier said than done but just try to dive into work this week as not to think about it too hard. Maybe that will help you get through it.
Em, that is too funny that you have your "baby dog". We actually have three. I have had my pomeranians for 10 and 12 years and my DH had to have his BIG dog so we got his Chocolate Lab a year and a half again. I too talk about them like they are my kids when I'm with other moms. My sister gets tickled and says "it's a little different" regarding my nephew. Well, I know that, but it makes me feel better. They are my babies. I smother them with so much love too. They have no clue how lucky they are. They adore DH and me too so that helps sooooo much.
So...my friend last night said she'd help me while DH is gone and even watched DH give me my evening shot so she can continue with the Progesterone the whole time he is gone (counting on the BFP) and she's going to help me on transfer day at the hospital and to go get mom from the airport. She's going to be a lifesaver. I owe her big. Luckily she is getting married in September so I've offered to help with the food. That makes me feel better having to ask for help like this that I can give her something back like that.
Anyway, weekend is going good. We're all going out on the boat this afternoon so that should be relaxing.
Baby vibes to all!!!
Heather
Me & DH - 38
Severe Endrometriosis Fried Both Tubes
sorry no personals, just a quick hello as i am just quickly using my friends computer while visiting.
I am still in the UK. On day 18 of the stimms today and was told this morning (finally) that i can have my late night injection this evening.
My ovaries havent been as responsive this time round, i've only got 4 follies which r big enough so far but hopefully some of the smaler ones will catch up until EC on Tuesday (there's about 18 or so smal ones in total).
Just thought i'll let you know. My thoughts r with u guys...can't wait to catch up with u soon. Take care all.
Lucy - Great news that your two little ones are back where they belong. Sending you superglue vibes!!! Your boyfriend sounds like a real sweetie. Hope that he gets you loads of really girlie DVDs!!! I spent the first couple of days watching Pretty Woman, the Fully Monty, Muriel's Wedding etc etc I never just lie around & watch videos so was great for that!!!
Vess - my understanding is that they like the follicles to be around 18mm as at that size they have the best chance of having eggs inside them but not too mature so they have gone past the point where they are good for being fertilised. Guess it varies from clinic to clinic but I know that they counted ones that I had over 16mm as they figured with the trigger shot they would get to that size over the next day & half. On that basis, you would have 4 that they would count already. Guess with the continued stimmies they hope that the 15mm can certainly get there & may be also the 12mm & 13mm could get to that size for you. Plus as you said to someone else there can be ones around the back that they don't see on the u/s so generally there are more follies that they have seen on screen but not all the follies contain eggs always. Hope that this helps a little. It is good they scan you so often as they can try to get it exactly right for you.
Natalie - thank you for your words of wisdom - do hope that ER will go well for you tomorrow. Hoping that you get a good bunch of eggs
Heather - you are right. I shall just have to bury my head in work for the next two days and get on with it. Glad that your friends are happy to help whilst your dh is away. It is nice that you are able to do a favour to help her with their wedding in return. I hate being overly reliant on other people so know exactly what you mean. I do think over time if more people understand what is involved with ivf then it could lead to more donors. I think that there is a lot of misunderstanding generally with people thinking that ivf has much better success rates than it actually has. Have a lovely afternoon on the boat - relax & enjoy
Sally - great to hear from you. Hope that Hammersmith are looking after you well & that some of your smaller follies can catch up for you. Good luck for EC on Tuesday. They looked after me really well - I was completely knocked out for EC which was just what I wanted. Let's hope that some bigger follies may be hiding. You should get really good quality eggs. I am in on Wednesday am for my final blood test after 2ww but not holding my breathe as signs not too good
I am a little calmer. I have been taking it easy all day. Just went for a short walk to try to clear my head. Am spotting but what can I do. Holding on to the thought that I have my frosties as Plan B!
Take good care. Let's hope for a good week.
Love Carolyn xxxx
I started the Follistim last night. I had to stick myself 3 times before I figured out how to work the pen. I was clicking the injection button like a Bic pen, rather than holding it down. Ended up with a bruise, which I never got with the Lupron. I guess I do better with the old-fashioned syringe!
I feel kind of nauseous today, not sure if it's the meds or just nerves. I have my first scan on Wednesday to see how I am responding to the Follistim.
I am due to start on Buserlin tomorrow, feel really nervous thins time as we have not told anyone we are having treatment, we have found it too difficult to explain BFN's in the past - Oh my god i have not even told my mum or best friend!!!!!!!
No looking forward to starting the injections again, but it is worth it!!
1st IVF Nov 05 -ve
FET March 05 -ve
FET July 05 -ve,
2nd IVF cycle May 06 - cancelled due to OHSS
3rd IVF cycle September 06 - 20 frosties
FET January 2007 -ve
FET March 2007 -ve
FET May 2007 -ve
FET July 2007 -ve
FET September 2007??
Hope you have all had a great weekend. Tomorrow is a big day with lots of testers so hoping to hear about lots of BFP's.
Carolyn- Happy Anniversary for yesterday! Sorry to hear you've been feeling low today.I'm really praying for you and will be thinking of you on Wednesday. Try and stay positive until then as many people have spotting before a positive result. You have been so brilliant to everyone else with your encouraging words and you so deserve a BFP.
Wendy- I hope you are feeling a lot better now. I think the drugs can do funny things to your system so try not to worry and keep on drinking tonnes as if it is a virus you need to flush it out.
Heather- Hope you are feeling ok. I am very jealous of your vacuum cleaner. . . sounds great! You are right we are all so lucky to have our wonderful hubbies to keep us going. Hope your scan goes well tomorrow
Dawn- hello and welcome!
Cyot- Hope your transfer went well. I had a three day transfer too- i'm not really sure what difference it makes. mine was three day as the clinic's not open at the weekend. they said the embies were 7 cell i guess they arte maybe three or four if you have two day but think it can't matter too much how many cells they are as long as they keep on dividing!
Natalie- I'm sure you did your HCG injection right. will be thinking of you tomorrow and hope the EC goes very well
Luby- Glad your transfer went well. just keep on relaxing and rest as much as possible
Vess- It's good your follies are coming on nicely- won't be long now til your EC- good luck! I feel like I've put on loads of weight too - all my clothes dig in at the waist it's horrible!
Em- well done with your sparkling grape juice discovery sounds good. Do not worry about the glass of wine anyway. my clinic said the odd drink will not make any difference anyway but if the grape juice tastes as good you're on to a winner there! Hope you are coping ok with the 2ww- it is so long and I'm only half way through!
Dania- How are you finding the 2ww. hope you're able to take it easy. We are just two days apart- I test on the 15th, lets hope the next week whizzes by!
Lucy- thinking of you on your 2ww too!
Emma- Hi! Hope you get on ok with the injections. I am in the same situation as you as I haven't told any family or friends. I don't really feel like I can talk to them about it which is why it's so great to have all of you to share everything with.
Lauralou- Hope your scan on wednesday goes well
Everyone else- hope everything is going well and keep up the PMA!
I'm still very bloated especially in the evenings. Does anyone else on the 2WW eat chocolate? I'm trying to be good but it is one thing I just can't give up. Do you think a little bit every day is very bad?
Hope you all have a great week, Take care everyone and lets get these BFP's rolling in!
Just a note on the DVD's....I sent my DH out for some after my Laproscopy and he managed to get "Kicking and Screaming" when I asked for a chick-flick! Hopeless.
Speaking of DH, he is away for the next 3 weeks working but home on weekends so I'll be chomping at the bit for a chat. Darcy-Dog (enormous black lab/rottyX by the way) is great for a cuddle but not a great conversationalist.
Tash - when is your test date? 2WW suck.
Carolyn - my friend said that with both of her pregs she had -ve HPT even on the day her period was due. Lets cling to that.
Heather - Does your DH travel with his job, too? I hate it when he leaves me but its good to have the Fur-kids around for company, isn't it?
Everyone else, big smiles!
Em
TTC 5yrs - Unexplained Infertility
3xIUI's (April, June & Aug 06) - BFN,s
1st IVF - Oct 06 - Jasper & Finlay born 07/06/07
Natural preg - Addison Grace born 15/10/08
The 2WW is hard! I test in a week on the 15th. This morning I've woken up feeling really hot like I do normally before my AF. I dream about the whole thing every night- it's driving me crazy! Poor you- my hubbie works away to so I know how you feel. He's just got back this morning but it out for the count and totally jet lagged! I'll be on my own again all next weekend and will drive myself crazy I'm sure. I know I'll end up doing an evil HPT. Please forget about yours as they seem to give negatives when it is really positive and I'm sure you have a BFP. Is your DH around when you do the real test?. Mine will be landing in that day but they told me to do the test first thing but I think I want to wait until he gets back home.
We will all be here to keep you compeny this week while your DH is away! Take Care,
had egg retrieval this morning. just before we set off i was violently sick and my stomach was so huge i thought here we go again, i'm going to have a ton of eggs, get OHSS and have to go for a total freeze.
then the anasthetic didn't work properly so i could feel the procedure (ouch!) and they kept going back for more so i still thought they'd be loads.
then when i got back to the ward, i was told they'd only got 2 eggs! all those other 16+ were just fluid, no eggs.
We only wanted a couple this time for a fresh attempt as we've had those failed frozen attempts but obviously i'm worried that they won't fertilise. i know we only need one good one but what if we don't even get that?! i can't believe that the first time we did this we didn't get to ET cos i had so many eggs and this time it could be the opposite.
please, please send lots of positive vibes to my little eggs - i need at least one to fertilise! i find out tomorrow mid-morning.
hope eveyone else is doing ok today.
Natalie
x
9 failed attempts using thawed, surgically retrieved sperm.
2 year break and vasectomy reversal for dh.
Consultation for 10th attempt using fresh sperm - Nov 09.