Pheonixes Rising

[Kate21]

Hey!

Had ET this morning - the quickest one yet, was in and out within 15mins!!! The two frosties that they took out both defroted fine and unlike last time they didn't reduce in cell size. So that has to be a good sign! Now its the dreaded 2WW - I'm ok for the first week but the second one is a killer!!

Lucy - I'm hoping that your BFP on the 18th will be a good sign for me on the 22nd

Sorry this is so short, just thought I'd update everyone on where I am. Hope everyone is doing ok

Kate

[luby]

Hi ladies

Kate - Glad your ET went smoothly and your embies are back where they belong - now you just rest girl. Let’s hope we both get the BFP we deserve..! I'll add your test to the list - also add your test to May test thread.! Take Care sweetie.

Gail - I am so sorry you are having to go through all this with work, as if you need all this to deal with after what you've been through. I do hope your HR dept can pull their finger out for you and get you in your old dept or at least another one away from your horrid boss..! September will be the one for you and DH. You will def be celebrating a BFP then. Your hubby is right to be concerned (bless him) but like you say your clinic will monitor you closely, they won't want you to get OHSS again, I'm sure you'll be fine hun, even you get a few follies, and a few eggs, it’s the quality not the quantity..! Take Care

Nicki - How you doing? Not long until your hols - then you'll have your IUI to look forward to, it will be here before you know it - time passes so quickly, I can't believe I'm on the 2ww again. It seems two mins since my last one..! Take Care Hun

Lisa - well done on being strong around preg ladies. It is strange but I think we have days when we are just really strong or it doesn't hurt us as much, I was at my sisters today and her friend called round with her 10 day old daughter, she was absolutely gorgeous, to my surprise I was totally fine, I didn't have a hold I must say but otherwise I was fine, I felt proud of myself. I also did not even cry when I go home - we're doing good girl..! I can't believe what you are having to go through with this HSG, I work for NHS and know how ridiculous the waiting times are, but that is good of your friend to try do what she can.! All I can say is try not stress about it - it will happen soon, although I know I'd be exactly the same, it is soooo annoying when other people can't do their job right and it has an impact on us, we are going through enough without then making it worse, that is so slack that they didn't even receive your referral. Take Care hun.


Lola - Hope your course goes OK.

Jeni - Bless you getting us all sorted with our dates - Hope you are feeling ok, I can't believe you are starting tmt very soon. Well here we are again huh - this time is going to be the one for us. It’s a good sign that AF arrived early. What did clinic say today.? Hope you’re all set to go with stims tomorrow, or is it Tuesday.? Take Care Hun

Haley - How you doing? Hope the drugs are going OK??

MLG - I hope you and bean are doing OK? Have you had a scan yet.?

Julie - Hope you are feeling OK? Did you have a nice relaxing weekend?

As for me - I am sooooo bored with this resting, I had two full days resting where I did nothing, only getting up for toilet. I have been watching some really good chick flicks (can't believe how well boyf did on that front actually, sure he must of got some help) Anyway today I could stand being in one more day, so I went to my sisters for the day, don't worry I took it easy there too....... I'm sooo use to playing with my niece, running around with her, lifting her up... etc etc, but this time I just had to say I was poorly, so bless her, she got out her little doctors bag and equipment and made me better (how sweet?) Anyway back at work for me on Thurs, but I am defiantly going to be taking it easy.!

Take Care everyone

Love Lucy

[luby]

Just updating list with Kate's test date

10th May--JEN---starts tmt approx date
17th May--JEN-- Aniv
17th May--GAIL Birthday
18th May - LUCY-- test date
22nd May--GAIL--FUP Apt.
22nd May - Kate's test date
26th May-- NICKI-- on holiday
9th June --GAIL-- Wedding ani - weekend away
12th June -- LOLA -- exam
17th - 25th June -- JULIE -- Hols Turkey
28th/29th June --LOLA-- exam
24th June -- NICKI-- 4th DIUI
28th June -- LISA-- 1st DIUI
30th June --JEN-- house on the market

28th July/ 2nd Aug --LISA-- hols to Sorrento
July--JULIE-- starting 1st ICSI tmt.
6th Aug--LISA--wedding ani
1st Sept--GAIL--hols to Cyprus to see Mum
8th Sept--NICKI--seeing Robbie in concert!
9th Sept--JULIE & PENNY-- seeing our Robbie in concert!
10th Sept--NICKI-- being god mum at mates christening!
2nd Oct-- NICKI--31st birthday!!!
21st Oct-- LISA--31st birthday!!
25th Oct -- MLG -- 3rd Wedding Anniv.
26/27 Oct -- JULIE -- Healthfarm!!
2 Dec -- JULIE -- Mamma Mia

[MLG]

Hi Ladies

Lucy – You keep up the boring rest, and take care of yourself. You little niece sounds so sweet!

Kate – ET on the run! You hang in there - 2ww will be over soon with a great big BFP to bring you joy. I believe it works better if we feel pregnant and cheer our embies on (OK crazy, but it seemed to work)!

Jen Sweetie, you seem to be on the right track. It’ll work for you this time!!!!!

Gail – I’m so sorry you’re going through so much grief. After all you’ve been through the last few months, to be having trouble at work too!! Hope it clears up for you soon, you deserve it.
I had OHSS the first time round. They didn’t change my cycle much the next time, only were more careful the last few days. Even though my e2 levels went slightly higher the second time, I didn’t over stimulate and I had about the same amount of follies. With the knowledge they now have of your reactions and your body’s adaptation, you’ll be fine!

Lis Honey – You’re having a hard time, so unfair. Hopefully from now on things will get better. Hope you get your hsg settled soon.

Julie – You talk to us when you’re up and when you’re down. We lean on you, so you lean on us too. That’s what we’re here for! Me-time is a good idea!!

Hi Lola – Hope studies are going well. Don’t overdo it!


Hi to all other Phoenix-ladies and visitors

I do get morning sickness (and afternoon sickness and evening sickness), but it hasn’t been too bad (yet?). It was worse two weeks ago, got better last week and it getting worse again.
I’m terrible thirsty and drink enough fluids to float a huge ship! I can’t go for more the 2-2,5 hours without eating or I get sick, not that I’m eating more, just more often.
My belly is HUGE! I’m not even supposed to show yet but it never really got better from the tmt and is getting bigger for the last 2-3 weeks. I don’t want anyone to know but naturally my colleagues are VERY suspicious!
I’m still not completely calm, as the critical period hasn’t passed yet, but am trying to enjoy pregnancy. I might start to really believe after (successful) next scan.

Wishing everyone a calm week.


10th May--JEN---starts tmt approx date
17th May--JEN-- Aniv
17th May--GAIL Birthday
18th May - LUCY-- test date
22nd May--GAIL--FUP Apt.
22nd May - Kate - test date
22nd May - MLG - 10 week Scan
26th May-- NICKI-- on holiday
9th June --GAIL-- Wedding ani - weekend away
12th June -- LOLA -- exam
17th - 25th June -- JULIE -- Hols Turkey
28th/29th June --LOLA-- exam
24th June -- NICKI-- 4th DIUI
28th June -- LISA-- 1st DIUI
30th June --JEN-- house on the market

28th July/ 2nd Aug --LISA-- hols to Sorrento
July--JULIE-- starting 1st ICSI tmt.
6th Aug--LISA--wedding ani
1st Sept--GAIL--hols to Cyprus to see Mum
8th Sept--NICKI--seeing Robbie in concert!
9th Sept--JULIE & PENNY-- seeing our Robbie in concert!
10th Sept--NICKI-- being god mum at mates christening!
2nd Oct-- NICKI--31st birthday!!!
21st Oct-- LISA--31st birthday!!
25th Oct -- MLG -- 3rd Wedding Anniv.
26/27 Oct -- JULIE -- Healthfarm!!
2 Dec -- JULIE -- Mamma Mia

[Julie2039]

Hellloooo!!

Thought I would pop in n say hi to you all. Feel like I have missed loads already. People's treatments seem to be taking off/coming up soon and I can't keep up!

Lola/Kate - Best of luck on your 2 ww. Lucy, yours seems to have landed upon us so quick. Glad everything is going to plan. Bigs hugs and PMA to you both x

Lis - Sorry to hear you are being given the run around. Really hope you get around all this soon and get a firmer date to start. As if we don't have enough to put up with!! Your approx date lands on my birthday, what a great day to start! (hope its sooner tho lol)

Jen - Wow, life is changing for you! Cycling in a couple of days time too!! Sounds like you have a lot of upheaval and things to sort but it will all be worth it, new house, new baby eh!

MLG - Mum to be - how are you? I see what you say about waiting for your next scan. Everything will be A ok (have you started knitting those booties yet? ha ha)

Gail - Nice to hear you sounding positive, and so soon. Such an inspiration. Sorry can't help with your ques. Hope work sorts itself out. Spend too much time in the office to be in your position. I thankfully work for a sweetie but have had the odd B*****d in my time!!!!!!

Nikki - Hope you are ok hun. Not long to your jollies now is it....time is flying sooooo fast. Can't believe we are in 2nd week of May already (I know I say this a lot lol). Have a fab time. You'll be all rested for your tmt in June then.

Sorry if I have missed anyone xxxxxxxx

As for me I am "ok". Feel lik I am changing and don't know why!!!! Espec with the friends thing. Where as I used to be involved with kids etc now I feel like I am on the outside looking in and would rather be on planet Zog than be with them! Trouble is I am so strong (as people tell me) but thats on the outside. I put everything to the back of my mind and carry on regardless and then when reality hits and I have to face up to stuff I crack up. I have cracked and cried lots lately but feel much better for the release!

Ques - do any of you/have any of you smoked? I set a target date to give up of New Years Eve and it hasn't worked. Gone from near 20 a day to 8 a day (honest) but it isnt good enough. It isn't giving up the cigs that breaks me I think it is the fact of giving up the cigs, taking vits and folic, and other changes I have to make that is making it all so real and I am petrified. Petrified of what??? Needles, the unknown, that it won't work etc etc.

I have just started taking Zyban and am going for "Anti-tobacco counselling" so am really doing everything I can. Don't understand why I can't give up. Doesnt help when people say "if you want a baby so bad you will". Arrrggggghhhhh. They help me in times of stress and boy o boy am I going to need them! The Zyban leaflet states to cut out smoking 11 days after starting the course so 19 May is the day. Will keep you posted and expect to hear lots of horror stories regularly to keep me off the dreaded weed.

Other than that I am fine xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[gailp]

Kate that was a quick ET, that’s fantastic news that the 2 frosties thawed fine. Two weeks time and fingers and toes crossed you will have that BFP. Its really amazing how slowly 2 weeks can go, what I don’t understand is that you can have a two week holiday away and it absolutely flies by yet the 2ww is the slowest thing I have ever endured!! Hope you have lots of chick flicks and your resting.

Lucy my HR department aren’t pulling their finger out at all, it’s a very long story but I hope I will see an end to it eventually. Will keep you up todate but wont bore you all today Your niece sounds so sweet, bless her. Enjoy your last day of freedom tomorrow before you go back to work and take it easy.

MLG good to see you, thanks for your input on the OHSS. I know my DH is going to grill the consultant about it all when we go for our follow up appointment. Glad you are finally being able to enjoy your pregnancy, when is your next scan? What is your due date, its so exciting.

Julie I know that planet Zog feeling I frequently want to hide from everyone and never feel particularly sociable anymore. Crying is good for you it definitely relives some of the tension. You don’t have to be strong when your on here, we are all here to support you, what we are all going through can be so tough and emotionally and physically draining. Cant help on the smoking im afraid but good luck.

I have ups and downs , I am just so scared that I will never get a BFP, realistically I know I can’t carry on trying forever so eventually I might have to say this is it, no more goes. I really do try not to think that far ahead but some days its just so hard. I have to believe that it will work next time, I am trying to carry on with the healthy eating but what I would really like to do EVERY night is sit down with a bottle of wine and a huge bar of chocolate. Probably not a good idea, I have put over a stone on in a year and really want to get rid of some of it.

Have any of you heard of the moon cup? You can use it instead of tampons. The web site is www.mooncup.co.uk. I know Zita West says that we shouldn’t use tampons, so I ordered one of the moon cups and it arrived the next day. When I read about it I initially thought - Yuck. However I thought I should give it a go and I have to say its brilliant. it’s a reusable cup that’s made from soft silicone rubber and worn internally like a tampon.

[Kate21]

Evening everyone!

MLG - I see your next scan date is the same day as my test date. Here's hoping its a good day. Glad to see you're starting to enjoy your pregnancy.

gail - any news from the HR department? It amazes me that people feel they have to treat others so badly, perhaps he feels threatened by you?

Lucy - I know what you mean about boredom. I've been sat on the sofa since i got back yesterday and I am going crazy!! I am back at work tomorrow, but I will be taking it easy (if thats possible being a PE teacher!!). Ideally I would like to have a few more days off but as one of the girls is off already (due to her brother being one of the victims in the Bahrain ferry disaster and the family having to sort out what happens to her orphaned nephews) I have to cover her lessons.

Julie - can't help on the smoking front I'm afraid, but best of luck with giving up

Lis - hope you get some good news about your tmt and that they stop mucking you around. Its stressful enough without you having to deal with their incompetence as well

Jen - good luck with the start of your tmt - here's to the BFP

Hi to anyone I missed!

Kate

[NickiMark]

Hi girls, just had reflexology 2day, it was good. I am tired now but oh so at peace with myself......

Mooncup??? Oh my good just looked at the site, Gail, honestly is it good!!! Im not convinced!!!

I dont actually use Tampons anyway, I use Pads, as ever since I had a leakage with Tampon wearing a white skirt, I daren't, only seem to get leaks when I use tampons and I can feel 'em too, not nice. I guess everyone's different, as I am the only person I know who uses Pads. Honestly Gail, could u feel it??

Kate and Lucy hope all is good on the 2ww.

Jen How are you? Hope life is treating you well, and stims are going fine xx

MLG, enjoy the sickness xx

A lady I work with who's just 12 weeks preg, is doing my head in at work, she doesnt know abotu my situation, but considering she's Preg and happy about it, it was planned she's being really moody and walking round with her head hang down, god if and when I am there I will be flyiing about teh place, on top of the world.....

[gailp]

Nicky I find it much more comfortable than tampons, infact once I had got use to it after the first couple of days I can't even feel it. To my amazement It really works.

That pregnant woman at work must be driving you crazy, you poor thing. I have had reflexology before and found it very relaxing, I had acupuncture all through my last treatment, it keeps my stress levels down but no where near as relaxing as reflexology.

Kate HR are being no help what so ever, they say that they have to support the managers Charming. I am seeing my old boss tomorrow so will see what happens then. Good luck at work tomorrow, you will just have to boss every one else around and keep still yourself

[Jeni Babes]

hi all
KATE- well done on the 15min ET...that must be a record!!! Good luck honey these embies will be nestling in already...take care of you and them!!!! hugs

Lucy- i know the 2ww is so slow but your doing the right thing taking time for you and nestled in embies...hugs

gail/ Nicki- mooncups well i never...the past 4 af's i have used pads totally as zita says they are better for fertility...i must admit (maybe too much info here but what the heck)my flow is better and lightre lasting only 5 days instead of 7! and the past 2 have come earlier rather then later...so i would say pads are great and will look up mooncup and see what it's all about.

julie- sounds like you need to let those close to you in for a hug...you can't be the strong one all the time sweetie...sending you mega hugs from all the Pheonixies

MLg good to hear from you even though your feeeling yeuky! look after you and take time off work if you need it! When i was preg ( at 10 weeks i went in for op as we found out at 1st scan it was ectopic) i was huge and went up froma size 10 to a 12/14 in trousers from being 6-10wks preg. I thought everyone would notice but none did except close family!

Lisa- forget about weight stuff just look after your emotions and self... that's when i notice i eat less...when i am not stressed. Your work stuff sounds a nightmare. I hate when going to work causes so much anxiety because of the tension there. I hope it gets resolved sooner rather then later...sending you mega hugs.

Lola hugs

and hi to everyone else x x x

these past few days have been difficult. sun Af arrived Mon phoned clinic: to be told that they were fully booked ( in theartre) so i would need to wait until next AF before starting this next tmt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was not a happy bunny and asked to speak to the sister. I was told that they are in-undated at the moment and so when it comes to EC and ET they will be over booked in hospital. I spent 20 mins arguing my case ( i have waited 6 months until this time for tmt...i am a slow responder and needed 14 days stimming insted of the usual 9 days on a short cycle...etc) she said that she would phone me back after speaking to the consultant but because of health and safety they would probably not be able to do anything!!!!!!

I spent a lonely and tearful Monday until today whenshe called with a date of wednesday at 8.45 for a scan top see if i have any cycsts!!!! Wooo-hooo that means if ebverything is A okay tomorrow i will start stimming for 14 days...I have decided to go up and see Adam in Inverness aas i am finding this hard on my own...so will if A okay be back for Monday to do 1st stimmy scan...PLEASE SAY A PRAYER AND KEEP FINGERS CROSSED for us ...thanks guys will catch ya all later

sorry if i am not being as supportive as usual...i am lonely here without DF!!!

love jen
xxxxxx

[Jeni Babes]

NOW: MLG=6wks approx? preg, LUCY= 2ww, KATE=2ww
10th May--JEN---scan to start stims
17th May--JEN-- Aniv
17th May--GAIL Birthday
18th May - LUCY-- test date
22nd May--GAIL--FUP Apt.
22nd May - Kate's test date
26th May-- NICKI-- on holiday

9th June --GAIL-- Wedding ani - weekend away
12th June -- LOLA -- exam
17th - 25th June -- JULIE -- Hols Turkey
28th/29th June --LOLA-- exam
24th June -- NICKI-- 4th DIUI
28th June -- LISA-- 1st DIUI
30th June --JEN-- house on the market

28th July/ 2nd Aug --LISA-- hols to Sorrento
July--JULIE-- starting 1st ICSI tmt.
6th Aug--LISA--wedding ani
1st Sept--GAIL--hols to Cyprus to see Mum
8th Sept--NICKI--seeing Robbie in concert!
9th Sept--JULIE & PENNY-- seeing our Robbie in concert!
10th Sept--NICKI-- being god mum at mates christening!
2nd Oct-- NICKI--31st birthday!!!
21st Oct-- LISA--31st birthday!!
25th Oct -- MLG -- 3rd Wedding Anniv.
26/27 Oct -- JULIE -- Healthfarm!!
2 Dec -- JULIE -- Mamma Mia

[luby]

Hi Everyone

MLG - Glad you are doing OK. You take care of you and baby. Not long until your scan. !

Julie - I totally understand where you are coming from with the planet zog thing.! Do you know what, friends, family are always telling me I am so strong, they tell me I handle things very well, but I don't, inside I don't. Like you, I feel I could crack up sometimes. You do feel better for releasing all that anger, upset, all those emotions out, I know when I had my last miscarriage, a few weeks later I drove to the country side and I screamed soooo loud (hope you don't think I'm mad?) I felt better, I really felt like I let it out.
As for the smoking yes I use to smoke, (not a lot though) I smoked right up until my first IVF cycle, I stopped about 3 weeks before starting it. and did really well until I miscarried then I will admit I did have a few sneaky ones but only a few. Then didn't have any again until my second miscarriage and again had a few sneaky ciggies with a bottle of wine. But then that was it again and I haven't had one since...! You can do it Julie, it is hard but you can do it..!

Gail - I know what you mean about being realistic with your tmt, but you will get a BFP. I know how you feel about the wine and chocs, I have also put on weight, I am 5ft 3 and now weigh just under 10st, (literally 1lb) I have put on a stone in about 6 months, it just creeps up on you...! But you know what I am not bothered. (well I am really, I just pretend I'm not, cos I know I can't be bothered to do owt about it, I am just concentrating on this tmt) Do you know well I’m writing this I am eating chips with curry sauce. How bad am I.? Zita probably says no chips or no curry sauce but I couldn't help myself............!
As for those mooncups, I couldn't imagine myself wearing them, they look weird.. I am too use to tampons, I hate pads....! Take CARE Hun

Kate - Hope you have been taking it easy and you will take it easy at work. How sad for your work colleague and her family. Anyway hun the time will probably go quicker, I am also back at on Thurs and hoping it will make this 2ww go faster...!

Nicki - Yes reflexology is nice isn't it and could just make you fall asleep, my friend does holistic therapies and I must say reflexology is my favorite. Ohhh so relaxing. I'd be the same if I was pregnant, I would be so excited, probably doing peoples heads in talking about it all the time, I most certainly would not be miserable about it. These ladies should thank them selves lucky..! Take Care

Jeni - Wow for a minute then I thought you wouldn't be staring tmt, good on you for putting your foot down with them. Good luck for tomorrow with your scan, everything will be A ok and you'll be ready for stims - you are doing the right thing going up to spend this time with Adam, it is hard to go through on your own. I will definitely be keeping everything crossed for you both but you what Jen, you won't need it, because this is going to work this time for you.

Lisa - Hope you are OK sweetie.?

As for me not much to report, I am feeling OK, have a very swollen stomach at the min, not sure if its cos of injections or cos I just eat too much.??? Only on day 3 and its already doing my head in - I must say they I aren't as bad as I was the 2 previous times. Fingers crossed eh? Third time lucky..!

A big hello to anyone I have missed.

Lucy

[Jeni Babes]

Lucy

thanks for the mega PMA you sent my way!!! it's working the 1st scan wzs fine and i start stimming tonight...next scan day 6 stims so thats Monday 15th...lets hope the follie fairy sends me mega follie dust....need at least 3 to get to EC...just made it last cyle with 4 so here's hoping all will be well.

as i said i am off to meet up with Adam in Forres so am am going for a 4 hr drive in this lovely scorching weather ...catch ya all Monddy after my scan


wishing you all a happy sunny weekend....

counting the days for Lucy and Kate on 2ww...

love to everyone
jen
xxxx

[Julie2039]

Jen Congrats on the stimming!!!!! Fingers and toes and everything crossed that this is the one for you xxxxx

[Kate21]

Evening,

Jen - excellent news on starting tmt. Sending you loads of follie dust to make those follies grow!!

Julie/Lisa - how you doing?

Nikki - glad to hear you enjoyed the reflexology. When I had it I had to fight to stay awake as the woman doing it kept asking me questions and I didn't want to appear rude!

Lucy - how's the wait going? Back to work tomorrow, make sure you take it easy.

As for me, it was back to work today, did I want to go?...erhh...not much! I tried to do as little as possible but it didn't really work. One good thing is we finish at 2.45 so I went home pretty early!! The days are dragging though, can't believe its only been 2 days!

Kate