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LucyBucy
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Sorry - last message from me I promise,
Sally - I am on msn - lucy_hollins@hotmail.com - msg me! Anyone else can too, as long as it's not those strange porno advertisers :shock:

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Ellie - Not sure that you'll read this but I was so sorry to read your news. I know that you say that it is the end of ivf for you. I wish you all the very best for the next stage of your journey

Tash - Delighted to read your post. We were long over due some good news. Think that the last BFP that I had seen was on 8th May. Go girl. What fantastic news to share when your dh got back - you must have been so excited.

LucyBucy - So pleased that EC is now on the board. Try not to get too far ahead of yourself thinking about having to do things without dh. Try if you can to focus all your energy now on this first cycle - you may not need another go! Fingers crossed. Remember warm hot water bottle on tummy to help grow the follies and plenty of water.

Lucy - truely hoping that the chocolate cravings are a sign that you are going to get the news that you deserve. I ALWAYS crave chocolate so would be no sign at all for me - just a normal day :oops:

Jackoa21 - let us know how you get on with the stimmies. It all seems to move quite a lot faster when you get to that stage

Natalie - you make the rest of us look & sound like such beginners. You have been through so much. I am willing this to be your time. Thanks for the advice on gradings

Em - your boss sounds like a complete arse! What goes around, comes around and all that. He will get his come uppance :evil: :evil: :evil: At least if you are knackered that will help you get a good nights sleep which will help you to start to recover. My AF is finally starting to go away which is a big help. How do you feel? I am having big ups and downs.....

Sofia - can't help with the diluted trigger shot. Logically you would think tht it is less strong as may be your follies are quite mture already and they do not want to push them on too far. I have no real idea - just trying to think it through. Almost at EC for you - how exciting. Thanks so much for the article. I suggested it to dh this evening & he did not rule it out. nor did he jump for joy. But we are happy to give everything a go! Am going to print it off at work tomorrow and then let him read it. So thoughtful of you & if I am having to diet, acupuncture, water, no booze, no caffeine - what about a few vitamins for him!! :wink:

Cyot - not long for you & Lucy now - counting down - and even sooner for Dania - really hope that this is going to be a good week for us. Cyot who cares if they think that you are lazy for a few days if it helps you get a BFP

Dania - I will be the research queen by the end of this. Twin girls second time around sounds pretty perfect to me. :lol: The thought of your dh on the oxygen really made me laugh. Glad that you are on the road to recovery. It is hard when it seems so easy for others. It is hard for us not to feel jealous. My secretary has been off on maternity leave for her second child. She sent a picture though the day that I got my BFN and I still have not been able to open the file as I know that it will set me off. Just sent her back a mail saying how perfect. You are going to get your dream & when you do then think how much it will mean

Wendy - well done on getting through ET and having the 2 little ones back on board. You test on my 40th Birthday so let's hope that it will be a great celebration all round. Was thinking of joining the over 40 thread but cannot quite summon up the courage yet. Now just make sure you take it really esy and let him look after you really well

LauraLou - 9 is really good. Now rest up well ahead of Wednesday. Plenty of water and warm hot water bottle on the tummy to ensure that they grow nicely. So exciting! Very best of luck for the next week

Sally - I would say that we are pretty happy with Hammersmith overall. We are going to wait and see what they say at the review appointment before we make the call. We are moving from Mr Magara (retiring) to Mr Trew? So going to see what he is like and what he recommends. Options will be fresh, op to open by tubes or frosties. Am trying to keep an open mind until we get there and just prepare all my questions. We are private. Heard that they can do 2,3 or 5 day transfers but first time through we were just offered 2 day so that is on my list of questions! Hope the rash has disappeared for you. Sounds like other than that you are feeling pretty good. It must be nice for you to be back at home

That is it for me. Quite tired and my temp assistant has put an 8am meeting in my diary for tomorrow. Joy. So better get off to bed.

Baby dust to those who I have missed. No sod it - baby dust to you all!!!!

Good night
Carolyn xxxx
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Post by CYOT »

WELL IT LOOKS LIKE IT MIGHT BE OVER FOR ME---------I BEGAN SPOTTING TODAY------------I AM SO UPSET---------MY CHEST IS TIGHT AND I CAN'T EAT---------I KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE HAD SPOTTING AND HAD POSITIVES BUT I'M NOT VERY OPTIMISTIC-------THIS IS OUR FIRST GO AT IVF SO WE MIGHT TRY ONE MORE TIME BUT FINANCIALLY I'M NOT SURE--------I'LL LET EVERYBODY KNOW IF AF COMES
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Post by Xrayem »

Cyot- hang in there! Its not over till the fat lady sings. (or gives birth!) I've heard about women spotting right up until they give birth to healthy babies. That might be you.

Carolyn- I've felt better. I didn't cry until last night after I got off-line. I rang my DH and fell to pieces. I couldn't even eat (I'm a big foodie so thats bad). I couldn't sleep and when I got up this morning I felt like I'd cried all night in my sleep. Must have looked like it too, 'cos the first person I saw at work said I looked terrible, was everything ok? Open flood gates again. But I had a great cry and now I feel better. I'll still have a large glass of wine tonight, but don't feel as though I need anything stronger! I hope you are ok. Just think, at the end of this we will all have the most beautiful and adored baby to show for it.

It still doesn't feel real for me yet. I still think of myself as different to you IVF girls, like I'm infertile-with-training-wheels. I keep thinking "chin up girl, you're not desperate yet, its only serious when you have to go with IVF. You don't have a right to be upset yet. Wait till you have to go through what they go through, then you'll know pain." Stupid aren't I?

Thats all. I'm too tired to think anymore. Happy thoughts to you all. Em
TTC 5yrs - Unexplained Infertility
3xIUI's (April, June & Aug 06) - BFN,s
1st IVF - Oct 06 - Jasper & Finlay born 07/06/07
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Post by Natalie Anne »

Em

it's so hard, isn't it. I think it's always the unfairness of it all that gets me. other people are enjoying themselves having sex and seemingly getting pregnant so easily and we have the exact opposite - abstinence from sex, loads of discomfort and misery and then we don't even get pregnant at the end of it.

we've all got to think that anything we've fought for this hard will really be worth it and that one day it will work.

as you can see i have taken advice from many on here and am trying to banish my negative thoughts and increase my positive ones as i was getting really down.

it does seem so hard to get over at first but it really does get easier quite quickly, you'll be surprised.

Cyot - please don't lose hope yet, so many women get spotting, it's really not unusual and doesn't necessarily mean you're about to get AF.

thinking of everyone today and sending positive and calming thoughts to all.

Natalie
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Post by Sofia »

Congrats Wendy on your two embies on board, and good luck waiting out the 2ww.

Sorry you're feeling so down guys (Cyot and Em). This is such a roller coaster ride, but everything we go through is making us stronger and better people.

As for the diluted trigger shot protocol, look what I found out. (see paste below. Yes, I surf the web far too much). It is strange then that none of you have been on this protocol since it seems to be the newest and most preferred option. The following is from a leading centre in the USA:

'The newest types of gonadotropins are made from recombinant DNA technology and include Gonal F and Follistim. Gonal F and Follistim contain the most highly purified preparation of FSH possible. The older versions of gonadotropins are isolated from the urine of post-menopausal women and include Pergonal, Repronex, Fertinex, Metrodin and Humegon. These medications contain FSH and various amounts of LH. All of these medications are expensive.

A third type of gonadotropin is called human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG). HCG is normally produced by the developing placenta during pregnancy. However, hCG is very similar in structure to luteinizing hormone (LH). When administered as an injection to a non-pregnant woman, hCG acts the same way that luteinizing hormone (LH) does. The advantage is that hCG lasts a lot longer in the body than LH does and therefore has a more reliable, consistent effect. Because of these features, hCG is much more potent than LH. Some brand names of human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) include Profasi, Pregnyl and Novarel.

For IVF stimulation, we like to use a combination of two fertility drugs. A recombinant FSH product such as Gonal F or Follistim and a low dose of hCG. This is known as the low dose hCG protocol.

In a normal reproductive cycle, the early development of the follicles are stimulated predominantly by FSH. Their later development is controlled by LH. Therefore, when we perform an IVF stimulation, we like to mimic that same pattern. The stimulation begins with FSH alone. Once the follicles have reached a certain size as measured by the ultrasound, the FSH dose is reduced or stopped completely and low dose hCG is administered.

IVF programs that use older stimulation protocols may continue to give their patients a high dose of FSH during the entire stimulation. This can work. However, the FSH is much more expensive than hCG and will likely raise the cost of the IVF cycle by a few thousand dollars.

In addition, there is some evidence to suggest that the risk of overstimulation of the ovaries is reduced with the low dose hCG protocol.
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Post by CarolynB »

Beth - Terrific news - I am so pleased for you. :D

Cyot - please keep going. You only have to hang on for another couple of days. Lots of the ladies spot and then still get a BFP. Really really hoping that AF stays away for you

Em - I so feel for you. Natalie is right. Think how fantastic it will feel when we get our end goal versus somebody who had it all on a plate. You do have time on your side as well. May be the crying will have done you good. I am kinda feeling that the pain/sadness really comes and goes in waves. Felt like shit on Sunday but not so bad yesterday as was quite busy & useful at work. I feel like it really is just beneath the surface and that someone at work will say something careless/stupid (not even to do with ivf) and that I will so completely lose my rag. :twisted: Even though I am on the ivf train already I do know what you mean. It sometimes feels like this is so surreal that may be it is happening to a different person. Or I feel like dh and I are in a bubble and that nobody else has any clue of what we are going through. That is why the board is so good. Do you have a follow up review booked or are you going to wait until after your birthday?

Natalie - great to see you being so positive after all you have been through. I so hope that this is the fairytale for you. :D :D

Sofia - you are the research queen - a lady after my own heart - you can never have too much data. That is so interesting. May be another question to add to my list for my follow up review. We have lots and lots of questions now whereas before we just really did not have much of a clue. Thanks for sharing with us - the more info that I have then the better able I feel to know what I am doing

Lucy - hope that you are bearing up ok and continue to enjoy the chocolate hun. Not long know

Hugs Image & baby dust Image to everyone else.

Love Carolyn xxx
Me 42, DH 52 IVF #1, #2, #3 ICSI #4 - 10.05.2006, 12.12.2006, 10.03.2007, 27.07.2007 ICSI/DE/TESA #5, #6 PGD/IVIG #7 - 24.11.2007, 27.02.2008, 23.05.2008 - 7 BFNs
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Post by jackoa21 »

Cyot
How are you doing.. I agree with everyone else. some women even get full periods when they are preggers.. Try to hang in there.

Em
I somewhat know what you are feeling. I went through 3 IUI's and now have moved to IVF and I felt as you did.. This rollercoaster is hard no matter what step you are on..

I have had a crazy couple of days.. I started AF (thankfully Laura told me that it would happen so I calmed down) than today I had my baseline ultrasound today ( I was nervous again because with IUI I have had left over follies and I was worried they would cancle this cycle) but they said we were good to go so I got my meds (starting follistem tonight)
I really hope I respond well. I seemed to do well with the IUI (follie count) but we will have to see...

baby dust to all...
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Natural BFP 09/06 by the grace of GOD
Kennedy arrived 05/2007 and we are loving every moment...
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Post by CarolynB »

Jacquoa21

It is good to clear the first real hurdle and know that down regs have done your job and that you can get going on the stimmies. At least this bit seems to move more quickly and it doe feel like you are doing something proactive to get your follies going.

Try to rest lots as meant to help the follies grow and drink loads of water as it helps ensure that you don't over do the stimulation.

Good Luck for the next stage of your journey.

Love Carolyn xxx
Me 42, DH 52 IVF #1, #2, #3 ICSI #4 - 10.05.2006, 12.12.2006, 10.03.2007, 27.07.2007 ICSI/DE/TESA #5, #6 PGD/IVIG #7 - 24.11.2007, 27.02.2008, 23.05.2008 - 7 BFNs
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Carolyn
You are so right.. I feel like I just won the lottery (even though I still have so much to overcome)
I will be sure to do the resting and drinking lots of water..

For the last 2 weeks I have kept reading and I could not for the life of me figure out what the down regging meant.. I guess I have my answer now...


I am so lucky to have you ladies.. I would be a really crazy person all on my own :) :) :)
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Post by DaniaBB »

Hi everyone!

Lucybucy- Your friend was really understanding and compassionate to have cried with you like that.Its good to know I'm not alone feeling that way. If you feel you'll get a lot of support from your parents it might not be a bad idea to move in with them- these tmts are hard enough as a couple- to be alone I know I would find it tough- its doable but will be more challenging. Think about what your priority is now- your gut will tell you. Good luck with your EC on wednesday!

Carolyn- Good to hear I made you laugh! Only open the email when you feel ready. I know- my friend in another city sent my her bellly pics from 4th-8th mths a few days ago and I wasn't able to open them until today. I figured might as well- if I get a BFN tomorrow I'll be a wreck and I wanted to wish her well on her delivery. Its still wasn't easy.

So I've been praying and keeping my fingers and toes crossed- one more sleep to go. I am happy to say as of 5:15pm on may 16th I have not touched the evil pee sticks.. yet. Nah I'll try not to tonight.Won't be easy.
Its my grandpa's passing anniversary today I hope he's my guardian angel tomorrow no matter what the results. He was my rock when he was alive.

Hugs to all.

Dania
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DANIA ------GOOD LUCK TOMARROW-----I WANT TO WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK-----I'M SURE YOUR DREAMS WILL COME TRUE----WE NEED SOME BFP FOR MAY TO CHEER EVERYBODY UP---GOOD LUCK

AS FOR ME WHILE READING ALL YOUR POST I BROKE DOWN AND CRIED----NOT JUST A LITTLE TEAR----IT WAS A FULL BREAKDOWN-----I THINK IT HAS BEEN BUILDING UP AND I JUST LET MY EMOTIONS GO WILD------I HAD MORE SPOTTING TODAY-----QUITE A BIT AND IT FEELS AS IF AF IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER----I KNOW FOR LOTS OF WOMEN IT TAKES MORE THAN ONE TRY BUT I JUST HAD HIGH HOPES OF HAVING BEGINNERS LUCK------I'M ONLY 30 SO I FIGURED AGE WAS IN MY FAVOR-------DH HAS SUPER SPERM AND MY DX IS TUBAL BLOCKAGE SO I JUST ASSUMED MY UTERUS WOULD COME THROUGH FOR ME-----I DON'T EVEN WANT TO TAKE MY PROGESTERONE SHOT TONIGHT-----I FEEL AS THOUGH IT WILL BE A TOTAL WASTE----I ALSO DON'T WANT TO GO TEST THURSDAY-----IT SEEMS A HOME PREGNANCY TEST CAN GIVE THE BFN RESULTS AS WELL AS DRIVING A HOUR TO THE CLINIC CAN-----I KNOW I SEEM BITTER BUT I'M JUST REALLY UPSET-----I SO WANTED THIS TO WORK-----WE WANT TO START OUR FAMILY AND IT JUST SEEMS IT'S NOT IN THE CARDS FOR US NOW

AS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE-----GOOD LUCK AND KEEP PLUGGIN ALONG-----EVENTUALLY WE WILL ALL GET OUR BFPS
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Post by sarahface »

Hello

I am on my last stages of stimming now and they are going to do the ET next Tuesday but i feel so bloated and poorly with cold right now. Ive been experiencing mild/moderate pains around my ovaries which i am reassured is just the folicle growth and the scan told us yesterday we have 15 folicles. We have another scan friday before the ET. I did make a post on the general but i can ask here i didnt think at the time lol. I would greatly appreciate any 2ww advice as in doo's and don'ts, we are both very nervous and fretful at the minute and its hard to relax with this dratted cold im on bed rest at the moment and try to sweat out the bugs.

DANIA Good luck for today sweetheart, here's hoping you get a BFP!!

CYOT I wish you all the love and luck pet and i am praying for you, this is our first go with IVF but i can only imagine the anticipation. Sending you a big cyber hug and lots of positivity. Hang in there.

BABY DUST TO ALL!!
sarah xx

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Post by Natalie Anne »

Hi Sarah

it's normal to be nervous and although there is a dos and don'ts thread on here, it may be a bit of a trawl through it. here is what i am doing but this is my 6th attempt so i am being mega paranoid and probably overcareful. you need to do what feels right for you.

No baths, no orgasms, no heavy lifting, no bending or high stretching for the first few days, diet as if pregnant (no caffeine, no alcohol, no unpasteurised food etc), avoid stress as this can make the uterus contract. avoid smoky atmospheres. i am off work and resting but most girls go back after a few days.

i am also eating fresh pineapple and brazil nuts to aid implantation and 75mg soluble aspirin to increase blood flow to the uterus.

it's rough when you're ill. i had a really bad chest infection my first time and was scared to take any medication for it.

as i said, i am sure this is all over-the-top but i don't want it to fail and me to blame myself for something as stupid as a glass of wine.

best of luck to you and please don't be afraid to ask us anything, the girls on here are fantastic!

Natalie
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Post by sarahface »

Thank you Natalie i am very appreciative. I know how you felt with the chest infection you poor thing, ive got a perpetual cold and unfortunatly i have re-occuring chest infections and this time im trying to keep my chest well wrapped and like you were im too afraid to take anything other than lockets and paracetamol. I didn't realise that asprin helps the uterus so im going to find out a bit more about this. I have been told for the first week to keep movement to a minimum but i also want to stay healthy, i guess a few walks down the road and back would be ok?

Ive cut the caffene to one cup in the morning and the rest of the day im on water or orange juice. Im eating plenty of fish and veggies and limiting my bacon sarnies to one a week which is heart wrenching LOL!

Natalie i wish for you a BFP after 5 other attempts this has definatly got to be the one! i will pray for you. Where abouts are you with your treatment?
sarah xx

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