April/May Buddies??

[Sofia]

Hi guys, I'm still here (sporadically).

I have made it to the internet cafe in the next town. I wanted to find out how things went with you Jackie. So sorry to hear your news. Good for you for already planning the next assault.

I kinda don't want to start thinking about being pregnant, because I know all the things that can go wrong at this stage. I have no symptoms whatsoever except sore bbs, but I am holding off going for more scans, as it can't be good for the embryo. Does anyone know whether the drugs we take (progesterone, estrogen and pregnyl shots once a week) can 'disguise' a miscarriage? Would it stop AF from turning up? Always something to worry about.

Its good to see the group keeping together. Congrats Dania! I too have fibroids and male factor! Vess - how are you? Any symptoms? Good to see Carolyn and Em so in control and with PMA.

Well hope to get back to hear all your news in another week's time.

Sofia

[CarolynB]

Em - you should not need to ask! You should just have jammed your foot down really hard on the accelerator!

I keep thinking of you and hoping that by tomorrow when we wake up over here that you will have just the best news. Seen that you have been at the hpts but it is still early and they do give false -ves. Have everything crossed for you girl

Dead right - if we all try lots of times then in the end we are all going to get there. Just going to take rather longer for some of us than others

Jackie - we are not letting you go anywhere. I need you right here with me! There are not many of us left on this thread and I am loathe to move on and join a new thread where I do not know the ladies so well. I think that the acu is really good. Certainly helps me feel less stressed and more relaxed. Let us know how you get on

Veronika - you & me - of the tuballychallenged. I am so jealous that it sounds like they can sort your tubes out in one go. Why do they have to take two blimin' ops to sort me out!!!??? Anyway - we are in this together girl. I am finding the acu really good so you should give it a go - my guy claims that it can certainly help with womb lining/implantation and also the quality of the eggs

Dania - I just keep smiling when I think of your news. I cannot believe that here I was jigging to help bring on AF and there you are - pregnant. How silly

I was really struggling last night. Bleeding quite a lot. Even spoke to the hospital and they bleeped the on-call gynie reg for me. She was quite calming and told me that bleeding was normal for upto a week after the op. It is just that the list of symptoms talked about everything else including the shoulder pain, bloating but nothing about the fact that I get an extra AF this month - two for the price of one Yippee Do Dah

I have been a little cheeky and called my consultants secretary and sweet talked her into giving me a provisional booking for the tubal surgery on 7th August. Why is it that you get so excited even about such small wins!? I was just worried about having to wait ages with holidays and having to take time off work in July when I am majorly busy with our half-year results etc etc. By then I will be on my sabbatical from work so timing works well in terms of having time to recover. dh is not sure about the op versus another ivf as yet - wants to see what consultant has to say on Wednesday. Dania's news gave me hope that maybe trying naturally can work. I have lots of questions for him re-scarring, eptopic, etc etc Guess we will really only decide when we have seen the consultant next Wednesday. Guess that I can still go back to the ivf afterwards anyway so the only down side is cost of op plus the fact that it all takes time. Guess that I am lucky that do have the 6 frosties as a little bit of an insurance policy for em & dh

Love to all and bestest wishes and luck and baby dust to our Em for tomorrow.
Carolyn

[jackoa21]

Carolyn
You are absolutly amazing.. I agree with you that I don't want to go to any other board.. I can just see all of you lovely laides celebrating your first and 2nd and 3rd trimesters right on the April/May buddies with me..
Your ideas for moving forward sound really good.. So the op is set for 1 month away? Is there a long recovery time? You may have laready siad and I missed it....

My acc seemed to be really excited, he started asking me a bunch of questions (which I have to get the answers for) He also said that maybe he can help me with the healing proccess and help to get me ready for my next round....He also said "well you got pregnant so that is a good sign" I understand that part and I partially agree but it breaks my heart also...

Laura how are you getting on? What is your next step???

Em I am thinking of you...and keeping everything crossed

To everyone on this thread.. These have been some of the darkest days..I have given up in the last 2 weeks more than 10 times.. I lurked but did not post and kept reading all your support and love for one another and it kept me going. I am blessed with a loving family and an amazing DH but I can honestly say that reading your post's kept me sane (well as sane as I could be)

love and hugs
Jackie

[souris]

Hey Jackie,
happy to see you back on the boards... Hope that with time your heart will heal. .

take good care of yourself
xxx
souris

[CarolynB]

Ems

Just checking in to see if you have some news.

Have been thinking of you all day.

Have checked all the threads on which you might post and cannot see word at all.

I so hope that you are madly celebrating with your dh.
Love
Carolyn xxxxx

[CarolynB]

Em

Just read your sad news on your own thread.

I am gutted for you. This sucks....................

Look after yourself & your dh.

This will happen for you. We are here for you when you feel ready.

Love & hugs
Carolyn xxxxxxxx

[Xrayem]

Hi guys,

I'm afraid I'm cutting and pasting, so if you've been to my thread, your're forgiven for skipping.

Sorry to say its again a BFN for us. I must say its been a pretty sharp learning curve for us. We have had a chat and decided to remorgage the house and try IVF fo rthe next cycle, IUI"s just weren't giving us any answers. I'm shattered. I'd love to say that I came out unscathed, but I am writing this after more than the acceptable couple of wines and I make no apologies. I'm angry, disappointed and down. All feelings I know will be gone when I wake up tomorrow, but tonight I feel them.

I thank you all for your continuing support - without you this would be so much worse.

Em

[vessi]

Em,
I am sorry that it's again -ve...
((((((((((Hugs))))))))))
I hope that IVF is the answer!!!

Vess

[DaniaBB]

I was thinking of you today and wanted to see how it went-
Oh Em, I'm so sorry to hear that it is -ve.
Its OK - let your feelings out anger and sadness. We are here to support you.

I'm sending you a warm hug.
Dania

[DaniaBB]

Carolyn and Em, As I mentionned in the personal thread you set up- thanks again! - I was just as shocked as you were- I kept putting the testing off because I didn't want to even think about the possiblity- I just assumed it was the hormones that delayed my cycle- I tested 2 days after my acu suggested it. I am very happy and still amazed .

Em- whenI read about the 16yrold girl smoking- I agree you should have run her over- how unbelievable!!!! It makes me so mad!

Carolyn- Don't feel silly that you did a jig for my AF- I was happy when I read that- it was sweet of you- even I wanted it to come at that time. Poor you to have all that heavy bleeding- it can be very draining physically (I've been there).I'm happy that you do feel that every small win is something to feel good about- because it is!!!!!Last month I felt good when I asked the clinic for a coy of our file- we wanted to get a second opinion at another clinic-I even booked an appt. at Veronika's clinic for august.Any step you take that makes you feel like you are helping yourself is a good one! I think that you have a great plan -things will all fall into place

Veronika- the clinic I'm at is called Sinocare- www.sinocare.ca The acu and her team are really sweet and helpful. She has a great success rate- in may- 10 bfp and june- 8 bfp. All different situations-IVF, donor eggs, natural etc.IT cost $60 per session plus the herbs.I have been going once a week. I went to another acu in the winter and I find she is 100 times better.Let me know if you have other questions. One thing is for sure- acu is very relaxing. Good luck with acu- let me know if you try it.

Jackie- I'm happy that you are here with us. Its such a tough journey but I do hope that you feel better and that your heart mends to find hope again.Sending you a hug.

Sofia- great to hear from you and how you are doing.How far along are you?I know what you mean, I don't have symptoms either only boobs and tired and we don't have a U/S until july 18th.

Lauralou-I'm sure you'll feel better when you have your appt. Its true knowing what your next step is always so much more reassuring. I'm a big planner and analyzer so I know how it can feel.

Thank you very much everyone for your sweet thoughts & blessings- I felt really touched when I read your posts!!! I wish you all that your prayers be answered and be blessed with a little angel in your belly. I want to stay on this thread cuz I want to be there for you all to hear your great BFP news and be there to support you like you have supported me- I don't think I would have remained sane had I not had you to share everything with.

Hugs and baby dust!!!! Dania

[CarolynB]

Dania - it is nice that you are sticking around to cheer us all over the finish line. The bleeding is very annoying, especially when it drags on. You just clear one AF - then I have had 5/6 days of it since the op - and now AF is probably only about 12 days away. Hey hoh........

Hope that you are feeling good. Guess at this early stage, you just need to ensure that you look after yourself & the little angel.

Em - hope that you had a few glasses of wine last night and it numbed the pain a little. Glad that you have made a plan and have a way to pay for the ivf treatment. We will be hear to answer all your questions when the time is right. Wonder if you have dates yet when you may do your first cycle??? Thinking of you hun

Sofia - great that you dropped in to say hello. Hope that you are having a fantastically relaxing time by the sea and taking good care of your beanie

Veronika - I think like Dania that you should give the acu a go. It cannot do any harm. My consultant was quite positive about the benefits. It has certainly calmed me down - I feel less stressed now that I am doing it. Are you doing anything at the moment to get ready for your op - any tips would be welcome

Jackie - I am not sure how long it is after the op that I can start trying or go to ivf. He has told me that I would be in hospital for two nights and that I would not be able to do lifting etc for 2 weeks after the op. From what I have read - sounds like I would be able to try the next month? We will go to see our consultant on Wednesday and be able to ask all our questions then. When will you be able to see your consultant and agree your next steps? I have a provisional booking for the op on 7th August if that is the route that we go. Agree with you that acu is great. I am sure that will support you both emotionally as well as physically. I have found it has helped me a lot to get re-balanced after my negative. I sense that it flushes the drugs out of you very quickly & helps you settle back down again. My guy asked me loads of questions as well which gives you confidence that they are tailoring it for each of us rather than going through the motions

Lauralou - having the review appointment feel like a big step forward. It will also enable you to plan better. I hate all the uncertainty, over the stress of everything else that we are dealing with. I found that it helped me to have a list of my questions typed up - took them to the review appointment with me and that helped me when I was sat in front of the consultant and they are giving you lots of info at speed. I hope that it goes well for you on Friday and you are able to build a plan

Vess - hope that all is well with you & the twins

Well I just continue to ensure that I do my 2 litres of water every day, I have not had a drink of alcohol now since May 12th, just 1 cup of tea in the last 2 months - otherwise no tea or coffee at all.

Looking forward to an afternoon of tennis and football!!!

Have a lovely weekend ladies.
Love Carolyn xxxx

[DaniaBB]

Carolyn-
Did you watch football today- I cannot believe that Brazil lost!!
It must be really annoying for you to bleed so much- hang in there!! It is all for the best possible results that you are doing this. It must be challenging but you seem like you are strong person- it will all be worthwhile. Yep- me too I'm still continuing witht he Acu's Eating plan but now I've added goat milk and organic yogourt for calcium.She also recommended beef bone soup with a little vinegar to get the fat off the bones-- I must admit I'm not too keen on trying it out yet!! I'll think about it for now. You're doing GREAT!! that t long without alcohol- YIPPEEE!! You'll liver will be squeeky clean.

Tonight my mom and family in-law came over and we announced our good news- what we did is a printed card saying- surprise we're having a baby and I glue it to a popsicle stick and put it on a cake with a rubber duckie. WhenI brought it out on the terrasse- everyone looked at each other puzzled cuz today is Canada Day-- then they realized and they started crying- they were shocked!! It was really touching to share it with them finally-we had been waiting all week.

Well, have a good weekend. Hi to everyone else!!!!
Hugs,
Dania

[Xrayem]

Thanks guys for thinking of me and DH. We are ok. I have my mother in law staying at the moment which means neither of us have time to really grieve. She didn't know what was going on and was a little blase about the whole thing when we told her on sat morning. She said all the wrong things like "it will happen when it happens" and I think she said "some people just have to get used to not having children" but I went into shock as soon as she said it, so maybe it didn't come out like that. She also (helpfully) suggested we just don't think about it but my all time favourite was when she said if she had of found out she couldn't have kids she just wouldn't have bothered.......I should point out that she actually has 7 children!

Sorry to gripe but you guys are all I have with this one!

Em

[CarolynB]

Dear Em

I am really sorry that she was not more understanding. I think that some people just do not have a clue about what to say. But that does make it extra hard for you. Feel free to come here and rant as much as you like.

Hope that she will be gone soon so that you & your dh have some time together just to work this through between the two of you. It is a awful lot to deal with.

We are here for you & will be cheering you on every step of the way through your ivf cycle. Some of us having been through it before will be able to help you with any questions. Have you thought about trying acupuncture to support your treatment - the stats do look like it really helps so might be worth considering.

Anyway hang in there hun.
Love Carolyn xxxx

[DaniaBB]

EM,

It sounds like your mom-in-law really said all the cliche wrong things & doesn't have a clue how to deal with your situation. I do hope for your sake that her stay will be short- so you can focus on dealing with your emotions. I know what its like to go into a frozen state at someone's ignorant comments when you bottle up your feelings-- after you will need to have a good cry and you'll feel better. Hang in there until she leaves.

We'll be here if you need to let out some steam!!!
Hugs,
Dania