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Xrayem
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Post by Xrayem »

Thanks BelB,

Not sure how I'm feeling. I was so confident the first week and then started off this week on a downer. Now I'm not sure, it could go either way. No signs of AF but also feel no different (preg feelings). Have already discussed with DH abot either waiting a month then doing one more IUI or doing IVF. We are going to bank to consolidate debts, to free up some cash.

Bummer aout the Socceroos, huh?

Em
TTC 5yrs - Unexplained Infertility
3xIUI's (April, June & Aug 06) - BFN,s
1st IVF - Oct 06 - Jasper & Finlay born 07/06/07
Natural preg - Addison Grace born 15/10/08
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bella-s
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Em - I was absolutely sure that I would 'know' the signs when I was pregnant, and on my 2ww felt absolutely nothing. I had a friend down from Brisbane, so I got the house organised before the dreaded call from the clinic, preparing myself for a big night on the drink. And I was wrong!!! Only 1 more day....

And, that's not the only thing I was wrong about.... Bel, you were 100% right, the munchkin is a GIRL!!! After the initial shock of being told that what I thought was testes was infact the chest area, we were finally told she was a little girl. We are over the moon, and already feel so close to my little girl, although I think she will be a daddy's girl!!! Now I just have to keep it secret from family & friends for 20 weeks!!!

Tiger....haven't heard from you....how are you?

Bella.
#1 -ve severe OHSS
#2&3 FET both -ve
#4 1 blasto - BFP! Lucy Bella born 3rd Dec 06
Jan 09 - FET...BFP!

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suzannes
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Post by suzannes »

First of all, good Luck for today Em - thinking of you, and sending a BFP your way!

Bella - A little girl, how exciting for you! Congrats. Hope you have got some great names picked out for your little princess. I was a daddys girl, still am really, woudn't have it any other way!

Hey Tiger, how are you doing? I hope you're feeling better soon!

I'm still sniffing. AF is now a week late and counting, hopefully it comes soon, but not too soon, My ovary is still a little tender on the one side, so I suspect the cysts there are not completely gone yet. I'm definitely not as sore as I was though, so I'm taking that as a good sign.

I don't actually mind how long AF takes to come this time, as long as the cysts are gone. My dr is on holidays for a month, and whilst the guy covering him is quite lovely, it's just not the same is it?

Happy Friday everyone, and good luck again Em!
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Hi guys,

I'm afraid I'm cutting and pasting, so if you've been to my thread, your're forgiven for skipping.

Sorry to say its again a BFN for us. I must say its been a pretty sharp learning curve for us. We have had a chat and decided to remorgage the house and try IVF fo rthe next cycle, IUI"s just weren't giving us any answers. I'm shattered. I'd love to say that I came out unscathed, but I am writing this after more than the acceptable couple of wines and I make no apologies. I'm angry, disappointed and down. All feelings I know will be gone when I wake up tomorrow, but tonight I feel them.

I thank you all for your continuing support - without you this would be so much worse.

Em
TTC 5yrs - Unexplained Infertility
3xIUI's (April, June & Aug 06) - BFN,s
1st IVF - Oct 06 - Jasper & Finlay born 07/06/07
Natural preg - Addison Grace born 15/10/08
BelB
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Post by BelB »

Hi guys,
Em, so sorry to read your news. BFN is bloody awful to take, I think wine is an excellent idea..And the idea of going to IVF is a good one, I've had a few friends who have done unsuccessful IUI's and then got a BFP almost straight away on IVF..Good luck to you and keep in touch with us all regarding your next treatment cycle.

Bella, I KNEW IT!!!..Well, I had a 50/50 chance anyway hey??..Little girls are divine!! and yep, she will be the apple of daddy's eye, a bit like my little girl is. Congrats love!!

Suzanne, hope that those cysts go away soon!!..

We had an obs appointment yesterday, all is good and the c-section is now 8 and a half weeks away..

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Post by suzannes »

Oh Em, I'm so sorry. I can only imagine how disappointed you must be. Enjoy those wines, and I hope you feel a little better when you wake up tomorrow. Hopefully IVF will yield better results for you.

AF has started for me again, so 4 days till a scan. Hoping for better results this time to my last 4 day scan. Fingers crossed for an EP and ET in a couple of weeks or so!
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Thanks guys for thinking of me and DH. We are ok. I have my mother in law staying at the moment which means neither of us have time to really grieve. She didn't know what was going on and was a little blase about the whole thing when we told her on sat morning. She said all the wrong things like "it will happen when it happens" and I think she said "some people just have to get used to not having children" but I went into shock as soon as she said it, so maybe it didn't come out like that. She also (helpfully) suggested we just don't think about it but my all time favourite was when she said if she had of found out she couldn't have kids she just wouldn't have bothered.......I should point out that she actually has 7 children!

Sorry to gripe but you guys are all I have with this one!

Em
TTC 5yrs - Unexplained Infertility
3xIUI's (April, June & Aug 06) - BFN,s
1st IVF - Oct 06 - Jasper & Finlay born 07/06/07
Natural preg - Addison Grace born 15/10/08
suzannes
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Oh Em - when it rains it pours doesn't it! You poor bugger, a mother in law in your space is just the last thing you need at the moment isn't it!

It's very, very easy for someone with children to say it wouldn't have worried them if they didn't have any isn't it!

I am having to seriously re-evaluate a longstanding friendship after a conversation on the weekend with a friend (the one who took me nursery shopping with her, and told me that infertility was natures way of weeding out the poor genes) when she once again told me that IVF only produced weak children and they wouldn't have had fertility treatment if they couldn't get pregnant. This from the girl who is 39.5 weeks, got pregnant the very first month that they tried, and has had a perfect pregnancy!

If one more person tells me about "this couple I knew tried and tried and nothing happened, but once they gave up it just happened for them, so maybe you just need to relax a little, ...." Honestly, some people have no idea do they?

My point is, I guess, no-one understands what we are all going through better than another person going through it, so vent here as much as you need to, and we'll all get through it together.

I'm off to ring the dr to make an appt for my day 4 scan on wednesday, and not looking forward to it, as I know that our usual Dr is on holidays, for at least another 2 weeks, so it looks like this cycle will be done by a virtual stranger!
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Post by bella-s »

Em - I'm so sorry hun. It is not easy going through these times, and noone knows better than all of you're friends & family on this site. So my advice is, completely ignore everyone else's comments & get all your PMA from here. Hard to follow I know, but do try hun, we are all here for you and know exactly how it feels.

Suzanne - I too was sick of hearing that theory - when you give up it will happen. I am actually scarred of what my friends/family will think if a miracle happens & we fall pregnant 'naturally' after this birth.
Bel - how did you feel?
It's something I really worry about because I am scarred of people thinking we really had no problems after all and just needed to relax - like it will make them right, if you know what I mean.

I know it's a silly thing to worry about at this point, but I just wonder what emotions you feel when this happens.

Em - you come on for a chat any time you need. I check generally several times a day.

Bella.
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#2&3 FET both -ve
#4 1 blasto - BFP! Lucy Bella born 3rd Dec 06
Jan 09 - FET...BFP!

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Thanks guys!

I do feel better and I know that my M-I-L is only "trying" to make me feel better, she just doesn't quite know how. I have resolved, though, to tell the next person who says "relax, I know this couple...." I will point out to them that that is the most insensitive thing someone could say to me. If a person's son dies, do we say "relax, the grief will go away one day"? NO way! But I have read that Infertility is the second highest cause of stress behind death of a child.....unfortunatley people don't afford it the same level of sympathy.

Suzanne - I hate to bad mouth someone I've never met, but your friend is a spiteful toad! What a pathetic thing to say! I honestly don't know what goes through a person's head!

My sister, sorry to say, is no better. She hasn't spoken to me for 2 months. She rang to cry over the latest break up (been with the guy 2 months and she dumped him). She knew that we had gotten -VE results the week before through mum but didn't bring it up at all. I listened to her for an hour when she said that Mum and Dad would be so disappointed in her. I told her to stop being ridiculous and that if they were disappointed in anyone it'd be my inability to produce grandchildren. At which point she screamed I was an F**%%$&ing selfish cow and hung up! I should probably ring and apologise but I just don't have the emotional energy for her right now.

well another gripe!

On a more postitive note, we have a new plan: Have July off but having a counselling session with the IVF nurse at our clinic to work out schedule, costing etc. We'll try another IUI in August and if that fails, we'll swing straight into an IVF cycle. I'm happy with this plan. We are moving forward.

Bella-S - It must be hard. Friends of mine asked the other night if this cycle worked would we need to do it again to have more children or would we be cured? It was the most ridiculous thing I'd ever heard!

Well, thanks again guys
Em
TTC 5yrs - Unexplained Infertility
3xIUI's (April, June & Aug 06) - BFN,s
1st IVF - Oct 06 - Jasper & Finlay born 07/06/07
Natural preg - Addison Grace born 15/10/08
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Post by Tiger »

Hi All,

Em, I am so sorry about your BFN but sounds like you have a solid plan to work with ahead. Hold onto that PMA, it can only bring you good luck :wink: .

Bel, you get to see your little bubs in 8.5 weeks time :!: :!: :!: Little Annie knows? Johnie must be getting very busy now too, yay. Great news about Heather!!! thanks for letting me know. It is a wonderful news, it made me cry too.

Bella, you gonna have little princess of your own!! Don't worry about what other people might think, they will believe whatever they wanna believe, so let them. Your hubby and all of us here all understand. You don't need to worry, OK?

Suzanne, I am afraid you gonna have to let me have a word with your mate. You need to stay away from this person during your tmt....... honestly... :roll: I hope your visit to the docs was not as bad as you predicted.

My ovary pain has finally subsided but I am still spotting... I think it will be ok.

Take care all, Cheers, Tiger
Blocked tubes due to endometriosis.
suzannes
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Hi All,

Good to see you back Tiger. I was getting a bit worried about where you had gone. You'll be pleased to know that I managed AF all by myself this month, even without your dancing! :lol:

Congrats on formulating a plan Em. I sometimes think that is the hardest thing to do after a disappointment, to make a plan on what to do next. I know that once the plan is made, I always feel better able to cope, as if making the plan has helped to empower me.

I know my friend's comments are insensitive, but she seems to think it is all ok by her saying 'but it doesn't relate to you because your situation is different, I mean everyone else!'. Our reason for IVF in her mind is DH's vasectomy. Little does she know that I also have a history of PCOS, so we could well have ended up at this point anyway, ....

Maybe I'll talk to her about it after her baby comes, but like you said Em, I just don't have the emotional energy for it right now. You don't need to worry Tiger, I will be staying well away from her for a little while. I need all the PMA I can get and she just doesn't help.

I made my day 4 scan appointment yesterday, and mentioned to my Dr's secretary that I was a little disappointed that our Dr (Stephen) was away, and that I had kind of hoped that he would be back before my time came for stimming.

Her reply (God bless her cotton socks) was that the doctor covering him (Ross) often had a better success rate with Stephen's patients than Stephen did and vice versa. They each have a funny knack for having great successes with the other's patients. Stephen's secretary says it's a good omen - what a gem.

I know it's just talk, but what a lovely sweet thing to say!

Our appointment tomorrow is 7am, so I'll be sure to pop in and let you know if we can graduate to stimming tomorrow!

Happy Tuesday everone!
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Hi guys,

Sorry, not a big post from me..sooo tired at this point, need my nanna nap!!

Tiger, yeah, can't believe eight and a bit weeks (eight weeks tomorrow!!). We have hardly organised anything either, the baby car seat is still on lay-by in the baby store and we haven't even thought about the cot. I've at least started to unpack a few pieces of clothing, so despite not being able to be transported or having nowhere to sleep our little girl will at least be clothed!! (thank goodness!!).

Bella, know what you mean about the inevitable thoughtless comments. As soon as we announced our pregnancy this time around and then mentioned that we didn't need IVF this time, some of the comments were just priceless..like "I KNEW you guys just needed to relax", "see, this happens ALL the time, you have IVF for the first and then the second one ALWAY comes natually" yeah right!!! We just laughed them off as best we could, but I remember that thoughtless comments, especially from people you care about are much harder to take when you're in the thick of a treatment cycle..My only advice is to surround yourself with like minded women who understand and truly offer empathy and support, like us on this site and this thread. Chat here anytime, you'll (hopefully) never get thoughtless or ill informed statements, and if you do..well we'll just have to pull them into line I reckon!!

Gott go to bed guys..
Chat soon
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Post by ozstock »

Hi guys,
Sorry I been MIA for the past couple of months. Have been working like crazy on a short-term project (which has now finished, yippee!), been dealing with losing a friend to cancer, getting accupuncture, taking Chinese herbs and spending time with my hubbie and daughter.

I scanned through some of the recent posts and realised so much has been going on with everyone while I've been away- lots of highs and lows. It's so nice to have a little online haven where you can turn to, to share all the good news and look for support when you feel like you have hit rock bottom.

In some ways it was nice taking a break from treatment where other things (especially work) took up more headspace than worrying about what day in the cycle i was, getting blood tests and taking shots etc. (not to say that it wasn't lurking at all times in the back of my head).

The Chinese herbs and accupuncture seem to have helped get my cycle down- it used to be all over the place and 32-36 days long- but now is 29/30 day cycle. Am praying that by some miracle that we were able to conceive last ovulation but am not holding my breath! Went in to the IVF clinic today to pick up the Lucrin shots to start tomorrow- Day 22. Decided to go with the shots this time around as I had pretty bad side-effects from the spray- which made me feel like shit and like my nostrils were red raw. I heard the shots have less side effects so we'll see. Yes, am back on the meds for another shot at IVF! Hoping this time will yield the desired outcome as i don't know how many times I can put my body through this.

Anyway, as I have way more time on my hands right now, will be in touch more regularly.

It's nice to be back!

Annette
Me 39, DH 39
TTC 5 years
DD- Born June 08
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