July Thread

[nictor]

Jeck,ive just read your post,my FET is a natural cycle, have your clinic gave you any odds on FET working,do you feel more relaxed this time than when you did full IVF...Im so hoping 3rd time lucky for me..Lots of love and LUCK..Nicola..xxx

[jeck]

Nicola--At one of my appointments the director of the embie lab was meeting with all the paitients and she went over our embies and she said that if they survive the thawing process the chances are about the same as a fresh cycle!! On the day of the transfer we have to call to make sure they survived the thaw to see if the transfer is still on... our nurse said that it is very rare that none would survive, that made me feel better!!!

I will pray for you and that you find what you are looking for!! My husband and I were both raised in church of the baptist faith. We have not always be as active as we should be in our faith and didn't really have a home church, especially during our 1st loss. I was so angry and lost. I didnt know if we would survive but we have found a church and reaffirmed our faith and I have to say that our most recent loss even though it was painful and I was said I had more peace with this one. I could not have gotten where I am now with out prayer!! I have been reading a book called the Purpose driven life and that has really helped me!

I so hope this is the cycle for you!!!

[poochie]

Hello


Jeck – I don’t start until 29th Jul I on short Protocol so ec should be about 12 aug. – Congrats good luck for 13th and 24th.

Jordon – Glad the mixing and shot went OK, I hate it when I do things for first time I always so nervous. I always get a trickily feeling in my ovaries when on stimms.

Michelle – 4 embryos and you know the sex, that’s fab. Good look for the 12th PMA.

MBAchick – Welcome glad you found a good clinic that you happy with its so important and just in time by looks. There are lots of different protocols so best to ask doc when to start as starting days often vary. I heavily sedated for Egg collection so don’t feel a thing and no pain afterwards again I think it varies clinic to clinic.

Amanda – Wow lots of follies for you well-done.

Nictor – I sure it will be third time lucky I have a feeling there will be lots of positives for the Jul thread.


Happy 4th Jul.

Vicki

[patientIVFpatient]

I go to IVPcare. They next day FedEx everything for free and apparently have some of the best prices because they buy in bulk and specialize in IVF drugs.

My doctor does have a shared risk program where you can pay $17,000 or something like that and if it doesn't work, you get $14,000 back--up to three cycles. He said he really thinks mine should take because all we have is a male factor [and we are taking care of that with ICSI] so I just paid the one time $9,000 and we won't get any money back if it doesn't work though. He has a long waiting list too. I called in November 05 and couldn't even get a consulation until January, then had consult and a list of tests done [HSG, tested response to Clomid, salpingogram, hormone watching...] just to rule out any probs with me, then signed up for IVF and have been waiting since then. We knew when we signed up that it would happen the week of July 9th--so I've known the date that I have been waiting for...hence the screen name PATIENT!!

CHAT FORUM--i went over [just clicked CHAT FORUM] in upper left of this page---and signed in using my "screenname" patientIVFpatient and used the password that I made when I initially signed up to post. Got in the room and there wasn't anybody in there....but you don't need any special IM address, that is for those who have the MSN Messenger or AIM [aol instant messenger] so you can add them to your buddy list. The chat forum has its own setup and you don't have to download anything!

[mbelle1019]

Amanda - You are certainly patient waiting so long to get into the clinic and then all the tests! Your week is almost here : )

Jeck - the 13th will be here b4 you know it. I am happy to hear your faith has helped to carry you through. Church and God are a very big part of my life. However, I was very mad at God after my first cycle, which made me not only mourn the loss of not being pregnant but I also mourned the loss of my faith. When it came time for the 2nd cycle, I promised that I would not be mad at God, regardless of the outcome. Unfortunately, the 2nd cycle did fail. Kyle and I had been looking for a church and I had been online looking at various churches. The weekend of my failed IVF, a local church sermon was on overcoming disappointment. We went and loved the church. Out of my sadness came something positive, I found my home church and am back on path with my relationship with God. There are a couple of verses I cling to, this particular verse I had told you about had also helped me through prior struggles : ) Matthew 5: 25 - 34

Mathew 17:20 If you have the faith of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, "Move from here to there and it will move and nothing will be impossible for you."

Psalm 20:4 May he grant you according to your heart's desire, and fulfill all your purpose.

I come from a family which does not necessarily follow any religion or faith. They do not attend chuch and do not believe in organized religion. But for me, it is my faith which gives me hope in seemingly hopeless situations.

Jeremiah 31:17 There is hope in your future.

My prayers and thoughts go out to you all : )

Michelle

[patientIVFpatient]

I have this prayer that I found that I try to pray each day--it helps to put it all in His hands.


Lord, Help me to KNOW that You are enough. Take my eyes off of myself. Take my eyes off of the child I desire. Help me to delight myself in You. Mold the desires of my heart to be in line with Your will. I don't want to need to be a mother more than I need to be your humble, obedient child. I don't want wanting to have a baby to be a stumbling block bwtween You and me anymore.

Lord, I want to give this desire, this drive, this ache up to You. Help me not to snatch it back as I so often do with the burdens I place in Your hands. Hel me to be truly content with Your will and Your timing.

Lord, You know that I still desire a baby--someone to mold, teach, train, shape, guide, and help grow in You. But until the day You give me that joyous blessing, help me to grow in You. Let me reach out to those around me. Let me witness and minister to the children You place in my path.

Lord, if adoption is the path You would have us take, prepare our hearts, and prepare the child who will share ou home. If adoption is not Your will for our lives, keep me from pushing ahead of Your plan. Help me to stay submitted to Your will. If we are headed in the wrong direction, change our hearts.

Thank you for lifting my burden. Help me to keep You first! Let me seek Your face daily, and let me know that You are enough!!

[jeck]

Amanda-- thanks so much for sharing this beautiful prayer I am going to print it out and say it with all my heart every day!! I am so glad that I have found others that believe in the power of prayer! Never can have too many prayers

Michelle--Thanks so much for sharing your story, its so nice to know that Im not alone. I like you was so angry with my first lost but could not find comfort in that anger and it was the first time something happen that affected both me and my husband and we both were so hurt that we didn't do a very good job of supporting each other and ended up being angry with each other for a little while. I didn't think anything like that would come between us because he is my childhood best friend. I have known him since I was 6yrs old!! We found our way back to each other and came out stronger than before and then found our home church.

Thanks so much for the verses I will read thru them again. Matthew is one of my favorite books.

I love this verse also Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future

eeekkk another day down!! Thanks for the well wishes, We realized on the way home from the dr that the day of my transfer is the day that I found out I was prego with our 1st one...

Happy 4th!!!

[suzannes]

Hi Everyone! Hope you are all well.

It is amaaing the ways that god works isn't it? I recently went to hy neice and nephew's christening, a couple of days before our last cancelled cycle.

As we walked out of the church the lady sitting a couple of rows behind us handed me a piece of paper with a verse written on it Pslm 147:3-5

I looked it up when we got home, and it reads as follows:

He heals the brokenhearted, binds up their wounds,
Numbers all the stars, calls each of them by name.
Great is our Lord, vast in power, with wisdom beyond measure

It was comforting to know that when we were disappointed so bitterly at having to abandon our cycle that God still had a plan for us, and that he wanted to comfort and heal us. We just had to trust his wisdom.

Easier said than done, but better than feeling abandoned and disappointed. we hope we will have more success this time.

[jemima]

Hi everybody... How are you? Sorry i didn't post for 2 weeks. I can't find time to go to rental

I and DH decided to postponed. We will start on August. Please let me stay....... I promise to check your post often

I have a question. I don't know what should i do ICSI or just regular IVF. You know i use sperm donor. DR said i should go to insemination but since our money only for 1 shot, so we choose IVF. We think that IVF gives higher success rate.
I have no problem, only polyp but already removed.
Should i think about ICSI? I read it will give higher success rate.

Imelda, you can contact me by email

I wanted to wish you all good luck.....may this month be wonderful for all of you! I hope we see more BFP's !!! My pray for you...

Love
Jemima

Susan -20 June - Downregging
Nicola - 21 June - review app
Jeck- 22 June - start Estrace.
Jackie - 23 June - start stimming
Rileydee- 23 June -start Estradiol
Nicki - 27 June - AF arrives.
Rachel - 27 June - start Lupron
Maureen - PREGNANT!!
Em - 30 June - Test date
wendy-1st July- start stimms
Imelda - July? - Starts cycle
Jackie - 3 July - ER
Cat - 3 July - scan to set ER date
Rachel - 4 July - Estrogen Jabs
Ems - 5 July - Starts cycle
Ali's birthday 6 July
Jackie - 7 July - ET
Tonia - 9 July - ER?
Jeck - 10 July - FET.
Jemima - Postponed - 6 August
Rachel - 13/14 - US
Lara312 - 12 July - Downregging.
Ali - 18 July - Scan
Rachel - 20 July - FET
Lara312 - 27 july u/s
Vicki - 28 July - starts cycle
Paula - 29 July - Downregging
Rachel - 3 Aug - Test date
Lara312 - 14th Aug EC

[mbelle1019]

Reading the last several posts brought tears to my eyes. I am so joyed to find so many people find comfort and strength in God. Kyle and I could certainly use your prayers, outside of the infertility issue. We received a call last night that his father has cancer, it is metastic and they are not going to treat it. Kyle's father and his two nephews are the only family Kyle has left.

Amanda- Thank you for your prayer. Not only is it a beautiful prayer, but it certainly puts everything into focus. While I love God, my focus has not been on him lately, but on wanting a child. This prayer helped to put everything into perspective for me. I will also refer to it daily. Thank you.

Jeck - Thank you for sharing your story and your verse. I find strength in other Christians. I cannot believe you and your husband have known each other since your were 6. That is amazing. May God be with you both as you go through this difficult and hopefully joyous time.


Suzannes - What a beautiful verse! I know a cancelled cycle can be very disappointing. My last cycle was cancelled as my levels dropped and it appeared I had ovulated. To me it was just another loss. But as my DH and everyone else pointed out, it was better to find out then and not go through the pain of thinking I might be pregnant.

You are in my prayers,

Michelle

[Ems1971]

Hi everyone.
Well, we are due to start downregging tomorrow(ish) but no sign of AF yet which is typical! I have had sore boobs for about 10 days now and have had niggly cramps on and off for a couple of days which are usually the signs that she is on her way. Doesn't help that I am so impatient either! Just wanna get on with it!!
Hope you are all ok today.
Emma xx

[nictor]

Hi Everyone..Ive been reading all your thoughts and prayers,and i wont lie,like i said before,am not sure if i believe or not,but i found myself crying really hard at all your prayers,i too am going to print them and read them,i feel anything that will give me extra strength has to help,im having such negative thoughts just now..I feel like i need someone to tell me where this awful road ends..(an impossibility i know) Ems..i too am waiting on AF,between wednesday and friday,but like you i know when im waiting on her to arrive,shs late!!!! Ladies im going to join you all and pray hard for each and everyone of us,may july be our month..Take care,lots of love..Nicola..xxx

[jeck]

Hey Everyone!

I have an idea! Amanda kind of gave me the idea... I know you suggested that we set up a time for everyone to chat, what about a time for everyone that prays say a little prayer for everyone and people who don't pray send out PMA and their thoughts to everyone. I was thinking something like 2:00 PM central time and I think UK is 5hrs ahead so that would be 7:00PM, I don't it was just a thought!?!?!?

Vicki-- Woo Hoo I am so glad you got your dates!! It feels good to have a plan!!

Michelle-- I know I read back thru the posts this morning also and it brought tears to my eyes and great comfort to my heart! I am so sorry about your FIL, I will keep him and your family in my thoughts and prayers. {{{{Hugs}}}

Jemima-- Yes of course stay with us!! I didn't have the ISCI done so I can not give any advice there. I think it gives you better chance of having more ferterlized eggs. I know that it is hard to decide exactly what to do when money is the determining factor... I so hope this our time because if it is not we will have to hold off until we come up with the funds to do it again or whatever direction we decide, unfortunetaly because everything has a price.

Suzanne--Your right God is amazing! Thanks so much for sharing your verse, it brought tears to my eyes! I have felt so brokenhearted and that just hit home. I hope this is the cycle is the one for you, all of us!!!!

Emma--I am sending you witch thoughts for AF to show up!!! When you don't her to show up she comes and then when you want her she takes her sweet time!! What a rude Aunt!!! Good Luck!!!!!

Nicola--I know that some have a hard time believing in God because "Why would I be going thru all this If there was and why would he let this happen and so forth" but if we got everything we wanted on our terms we would be like a spoiled brat that didn't appreciate anything and would never grow as a human. Just think of some of the things that you wanted but are soooo glad that you didn't. We don't always know what is best for ourselves. Sure I wished I never went thru my losses, but I have and just maybe I can give comfort to someone else that I wouldn't otherwise be able to give, without that experience. I know too that something that I have to work hard for is so much sweeter than something that I didn't. I too wish I had a road map on all the bad things but it would ruin all the suprises of all the joyous occasions. Sorry to ramble... I so hope you find peace and that AF show up!!! Thanks so much for your thoughts and prayers!!

Last night I read this verse 1 Samuel 1:27 "I prayed for this child, and the Lord has granted me what I asked of him." Read the whole chapter 1-27. Its about Hannah and her womb was close and god open it and gave her a child.

Love to all!!
Jessica

[patientIVFpatient]

Jemima,

How much more is it to do the ICSI with the IVF?

My doc is having us do it [since it is a male factor] and it is only $500 more. $500 may seem like a lot, but if you just did IVF and they said, "no eggs were fertilized," you'd want to pay any amount to make that happen. We even signed a consent to do assisted hatching, just incase they need to, and if they don't, then we don't pay for that part of it. But heck yeah I signed the consent "just in case." It may have been a different story though if it was like 5 thousand more or something outrageous!

I think you should do whatever you feel comfortable with, but it doesn't seem like ICSI could hurt anything, unless it hurts the wallet a lot!!!

Jeck,
Sure, I'll say a little prayer @ 2pm--wouldn't that be something if one of us ever has an appointment at that time--we would know someone is thinking about us right then...





Whenever I think, "Geez, why would God choose this for me..."
I try to look for all the good things HAVE happened, that WOULDN'T have happened if I had a baby when I wanted to...

--Like last year when we traveled to the Bahamas with another couple----couldn't have arranged that with a baby--and no vacation this year--spent it on IVF instead
--or when I visisted my friend at the Lake of the Ozarks and just stayed ONE EXTRA day than I planned because I could---couldn't have even gone probably with out a sitter, and then couldn't have just called and said--I'll be one more day!
--all the times a friend calls and says, "hey wanna go here...and I just go at the drop of a hat.

YES, I would give all that up for a baby, BUT, if you're trying to look at the bright side, then you can realize all the good things about the wait.---just a thought!

[Dory]

Hi Ladies,

Well i made it to England, eventually!!!!

My toe is getting better.

I started my lupron on the 27th and was hoping AF would have arrived by now, the Dr said i should have got it today, but guess what as per usual when you want it to arrive it never does. I got a few twinges so hopefully by tomorrow morning it will be here. If AF had arrived, i would have started my Estadiol Valerate jabs tonight, but i've been saved a jab now i will start it Friday.

I haven't had any hot flashes with the lupron, but the weather over here is so hot i wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

Has anyone had anxiety attacks, caused by the Lupron

Hope all is going well for you all and everything is on track.

Happy 4th of July to all you Americans.

Take Care
Hugs
Rachel OXO