April/May Buddies??

[CarolynB]

Hi Ladies

I have good financial news to share as well. Laura - you must have inspired me to state my case!

Talked to a nice lady in our HR department - said I did not want to explain to my male boss but that I had medical issues that I had largely be managing outside of office hours (did not tell her any of the detail). Explained that I was trying to do my job properly over the next month up to my sabbatical but the result was that I was having the op on the very first day of my sabbatical rather than sooner after nearly 12 years at the company when I have hardly ever taken any sick leave.

Told her that consultant had told me that it required 4 weeks of recovery time. Guess what - They are going to pay for by 4 weeks of sick leave! She will talk to my boss tomorrow & just tell him that it is what the company should do.

Covers the cost of the operation and some!! So that has decided me. This must be a sign that I should get the op done - so I will have the op. I have a plan. I am so much happier

Jackie - my acu is the same. I understand the key things is the positioning of the needles on the relevant pressure points. I have no electric current either so think that this is 'normal'. I have certainly heard that acu around EC & ET is believed to be very helpful. I have also read that it can be done on the day of tranfer itself. I am not sure about during the 2ww. I am very happy to ask my cutie. I go to see him next Tuesday. If he i getting you healthy and less stressed that can only be good news for you & your body

Laura - my financially astute buddy- - have you double checked the info that you were given - is it all sorted? I hope so. You certianly spurred me on - for which big thanks

Veronika - Em - this is making me feel that there is good news around the corner for all of us - just like Dania

As you can tell I am filled with PMA so felt that I should share with all of you. Take care my dear friends.
Love Carolyn xxx

[LauraLou]

I called the insurance company again yesterday and spoke with someone different. She told me the same thing. We have over $10,000 in infertility coverage still left!

I am so glad I called to check. It never occured to me that the doctor's visits, labs, etc wouldn't be counted as part of the $15,000 limit.

We can definitly do IVF/ICSI once more and maybe even a third time. If I can't get pregnant after two more rounds of IVF then I guess we will go ahead and try IUI with donor sperm after that.

I am excited for my review appointment tomorrow. Hopefully he will say we can start during my next cycle. AF is due in 3-5 days, so maybe I can begin the lupron phase 21 days after that!

Carolyn, I am thrilled that you are getting paid for your time off! Lots of good financial news. Hopefull that will turn into good baby news very soon.

Jackie, when do you think you will begin your next IVF cycle?

Best wishes!

[jackoa21]

Carolyn
that is wonderful news about your work.. I think you are right and this is a "sign" of what you should do next.....Please do ask your acc cutie about the acc during the 2ww

Laura I am also so glad to hear you got confirmation on the insurance thing.. You are in such a good position.. Its hard enough dealing with all of this let alone the financial part.. I am glad to hear things are going well.. So you get to start right when AF comes?

I have ok news.. One thing that has really been bothering me is I love my docs BUT they keep putting me off on treatment.. They want/need me to get through this part (long story but apparently my body does not know how to miscarry quickly) I know it sounds horrible but I guess it happens some times.. So I totally get that they need this to be done.. Yet they seemed to be stalling about what to do next..

I kept explaining that I did not want exact dates but I wanted a plan.. Well finally today they called with the plan.. They need me to just (be normal) until probably late August early September and than they will start the stims.. They even said poss ER around mid September.. I wish it was today but I guess they need me to just be "normal" for a couple of months.. Here is my dilema.. They dont want me on the pill this round (My doc says if you are over 35 they normally dont do the pill anyway) well I am 32 but with my low response (only my one figther) they want me to just be off the pill and do less supression......

So the dillema is if I do what they want they want us to do that would be using Condoms for July and August.. Well I asked "what is the worst that can happen" they said if I was to fall pregnant (not very likely in my opinion) since I had a miscarrage I could have another one because it was too soon.. I know none of us are doctors but what do you think? I just wonder what harm it would do to be doing the accupuncutre and just being Normal??? THoughts??? sorry for the long rant I just am unsure..

love and hugs..

Will you ladies still be my budies if I have to wait until Mid september.. Otherwise it woudl be a pretty sad group of just me...

[AuntyPebbles]

Hi Lady's,
Hope you are all well,
Jackie i first wanted to say you will never be alone in this im afraid you started the stalking.....
i wanted to go read up first before i posted and from what ive read there is no evidence to support you not trying while you wait for your treatment me and my hubby try (even though we have a greater chance of winning the lotto)all youd be doing is cutting out the middle man... im no Dr but if i where you as soon as you feel up to it id try anyway... oh and i just read some posts from ladys who fell pregnant even before they got thier AF...

lots of love Debz

[DaniaBB]

Hi Gals!

Lauralou- What fantastic news about your insurance!!! Yeah! I'm very happy for you !



Jackie- Don't worry about the electrical thing in accu- I haven't had that treament yet- I think you are right to put your hopes on acu I think it will most definitely help you relax and it will help blood circulate better in your uterus as well. Yes- my acu said that the week b4 the transfer you do acu then the morning of ET and after ET and I think (not sure about this) after you don't for 2ww-- I will ask her again next week (thurs.)at my appt. to confirm it for you. If you check out the net there's a lot of success stories with acu!

Carolyn- Great news!!!! I'm so happy to hear that with the op you will have a chance to try on your own- that's wonderful gives you lots of options. You made me laugh about your DH- hey why not be taken care of for a few weeks- breakfast in bed is always a treat!!!

I'm quite tired again (hohum I'm repeating myself- I feel like an ol'woman) so I'm off to get some sleep yes- at 9pm.

Baby dust to you all!!!!!
Dania

[LauraLou]

Jackie, I'm a nurse, not a doctor but I don't think there would be a problem with you trying naturally while you wait for your next treatment.

The concern is when a woman has a late m/c, after 12 weeks. Then your body needs time to return to its nonpregnant state before you try again. As your m/c, like mine, was so early, you would be fine. But again, I'm not a doctor.

I'm thinking of trying accupuncture. It's not something I ever thought I would consider, but I'm willing to try anything at this point. Even drinking scary herbal teas!

[jackoa21]

ok so we are all set.. we are in this together.. DH and I will baby dance and whatever happens will happen.. I will keep doing acc and you all will give me success stories for me to emulate. I am on the phone with my mom (english major) that is the reason for the big fancy word..
take care
love and hugs
Jackie

[Xrayem]

Hi girls,

Just checking in quickly. My mother-in-law is still here, she will be until sunday, so I haven't had a chance to get on until now.

I'm glad to hear you are all well and that everyone seems to have had good news. Congrats Jackie and Carolyn on having a plan! And well done Laura on having all that extra coverage! You must feel like you've won the lotto!

Well, even I, the scientist has sucumed to alternate medicine. I rang a GP who does acu and enquired about it. He was hesitant to do acu for fertility as he had never studied on it but he said he did like a hypnotherapy thing. He believes that unexplained infertility may be partly psychological and I am going along to see him for a "chat" on monday. I have always thought that I would have trouble concieving (I don't know why) and perhaps I have talked myself into it??? It might be all mumbo-jumbo but he is a medical doctor so I thought I'd trust him.

Sorry this is not personal, but really have to hurry before the others get home.

Love to all,
Em

PS: I love the idea of starting the new thread! What about calling it "Mayflower Planners"?? Any other suggestions? But we'd all have to agree on a day and jump on to it!

PSS: actually now I've read that title it sounds a little crappy. Was trying to incorporate "April/May" in there somewhere.

[jackoa21]

Em,
I am so glad you are with us....I think your acc guy sounds really good.. I think your acc guy sounds good.. Even if he does not specifically do acc for infertility if he can help with stress and positivity it cant hurt right? I have not bougt in 100% to the acc idea but I do belive if anything it will help with stress and it will give me that extra push feeling like I am doing something extra... Only Carolyn has the acc cutie.. My guy is not a cutie so that part stinks.....

Debz (aunty) started a Aug/Sept group and it seems to be shaping up nicely so if we wanted we could all jump there..

as hard as this is (going again) I can not think of any other ladies that I would like to have on this journey with me

love and hugs

[LauraLou]

I had my review appointment today. I was so hoping that he would say we could start our 2nd try at IVF/ICSI this cycle.

Instead we have to wait until about the end August to start the lupron, which puts the EC and ET in September. He wants me to have two normal cycles after my m/c before we start again. I was disappointed but that will make me cycle buddies with all of you!

He is changing my stims a little, adding a new drug, and is going to do the transfer with a full bladder this time. Other than that, it looks like it will be about the same as last time. I just really, really hope it works this time.

Best wishes

[veronika]

Hello May/June ladies

One day without a computer and so many things have happened!

LauraLou,
I know how hard it is to have to wait this time until starting again. But maybe you can just see it as a chance to prepare your body and mind as much as possible for the next cycle. I am sure that it makes a huge difference to start the next cycle with more experience and calmness.

Jackoa,
it really sounds like the right decision to just go for it and see what happens! And you do have the accu - who knows...reading all the success stories aon this board I really believe that it can improve our chances of conceiving naturally quite a bit!

Carolyn,
that's great news! We'll both be going for the op then. And even though it is nice to have it all in one go, you are having your op really soon, and you already know that you have great chances of things working! And 6 month of trying won't take anything away from you (time-wise)! IVF is still a possibility and you can just relax and try your best to make things work during those months! I am glad that everything worked out this well with you getting paid for your time off.

Em,
I hope life with your mother in law is ok. Sunday will come soon! Hang in there.


You just wait and see girls. We May/June buddies (or whatever our name will be...) will get our turn! Love, Veronika

[CarolynB]

Ladies Ladies

Good to read all your news and see how much positivity there is around now. Lots going on around here right now which is terrific.

Laura - I am sorry that you have to wait but sure that they are doing it for the all the right reasons to get your body into shape. They told me at my clinic that they want to have 3 AFs before you go through the drugs again to allow your body to calm down & re-balance again. Give the acu a go - what hard can it do. I have been doing the horrid herbal tea stuff during my AF as well. I am prepared to do what ever it takes..........

Em - I am wishing your mother-in-law away so that you have some time and space for you & your dh

It is great to know that we are all busy getting ourselves into the best possible shape and most of us are using the acu also. WE ARE GOING TO ALL GET THERE

Jackie - guess if you move across to Aug/Sept that I would feel a bit phoney joining you over there. But sure not trying to stop you guys who are cycling then moving. We could start a new thread with a suitable title but not linked to a particular month?

I think that you should just try if that is what you want to do and feel comfortable with. I have heard quite a few people who have had success straight after tmt whilst the drugs are still in the system - and I don't just mean our buddy Dania

Veronika - what is the date of your op - I'm Monday 7th August

Dania - thanks for watching over us - you are our good luck charm

I'll probably just stick around here and post re-op and then what happens afterwards.

I am quite busy at work right now. Done a full day today. Have a house full of people my dh has invited around for a b-b-q this evening and just not in the mood for it. Would rather stay here and chat but guess that I'll have to go home and face them all. Then have my nephews 1 st birthday party tomorrow. He is adorable but no doubt have to face some insesitive remarks about why dh and I don't have kids. At least my mum will be there. She'll probably hit someone for me if she hears them say that!!!

Take care my buddies. Good things will happen to all of us soon.
Love Carolynxxxx

[DaniaBB]

I'm really glad to hear such great news from everyone.IT seems like everyone now has a plan to carry out. I'm praying for good luck for all of you.

Jackie- I agree with Laura- I'm not a doctor but I think that you should try on your own while you wait for the next cycle. Along with acu, its worth a try. My acu told me it takes about 4 treaments to have an complete effect on your body.I'm still taking the herbal teas -you get acustomed to the taste. It's worth a try.

Laura- Sounds like your doctors have devised a good plan!

Em- Sounds like your acu is very interesting- hypno- I do believe that our minds are much more powerful than we are aware of. I think he'll be guiding you through some kind of meditation therapy. I've been doing that- I just bought a book and its very relaxing. I'm curious to hear all about your first appmt with him. Soon your mum-in-law will be going home- take it easy when she does!

Carolyn- Sounds like you'll have to be tough this weekend. Not easy but with your mom around I think that will give you strength- She should "kick some butt" verbally that is if someone is insensitive. I started telling people around me- to create awareness- that its best not to say anything than to say something that may be perceived as insentive. Hang in there- I'll be sending you "Super Girl" thoughts. I think that is absolutely amazing that your company has agreed to give you 4 wks paid!!Yeah!! It shows that it never hurts to ask for something!

We have decided not to annouce our bfp to all our friends/family yet- we only told our parents. I can't wait to be able to talk about it. I feel so uncomfortable not saying anything to my friends- My DH really wants to have clinical confirmation on the 18th. When I spoke to my friends they asked about our next IVF plan and I said we were seeing a Dr. on the 18th and would tell what was happening then. I didn't want to lie to them but inside I was itching to tell them.

Its actually summer here! Finally- so I think I'll enjoy some sun and watch the world cup this afternoon. My Italian in-law family is quite excited. I'm new at this so I'm getting caught in the whirlwind.
Have good weekend everyone!
Hugs,
Dania

[jackoa21]

Carolyn I totally understand the worries about people and the insensative comments they can make..I also understand the protective mom comments.. my mom has wanted to haul off and hit some of our friends (who say the normal "are you guys ever going to have kids") I will be ok wherever we want to post.. I was part of this group and also the June/July buddies so if its ok I will see if you guys re-post or re-name us something else but in the meantime I would like to be part of both groups..
Ok I know its wishful thinking but maybe we could name ourselves the naturally success BFP with only acc group.. After all of our natural BFPs

Dania you must be so excited (as well you should be) so your scan is on the 18th.. You just try to rest now and take care of you and your little one and just imagine how much fun it will be to tell everyone very soon..

love and hugs
Jackie

[LauraLou]

Not a happy day here in Texas. My cycle is usually 29-30 days. Today is day 31, so of course I run out and buy a HPT, even though I know I'm not pregnant as I have absolutely no symptoms. But I can't help but get excited and think maybe this month we'll beat the odds and conceive naturally. Well of course the test was negative, I'm sure AF will arrive tomorrow.

Why do I do this to myself? I get my hopes up and then get disappointed every month. I've been doing this for years and it really takes an emotional toll. I know the only way I am going to conceive is through IVF, so why do I still torture myself this way?

Sorry for being such a big blob of negative energy. Promise I will be more upbeat next time I post. Thanks for listening to me feel sorry for myself.