April/May Buddies??

[jackoa21]

Laura
25 that must have been a really loud room.. I can only imagine how that was for you.. Being there with those little ones and being able to hold them.. Just think though that was good practice for your time.. You wont be having 25 but maybe 2?????? I know your doc said they were going to do the full bladder next round but they also said a new drug? do you know what they are going to change?

My doc said they are just going to change the birthcontrol (which we all decided was really good that way we can try on our own ) and than I can spend a fortune on HPT's even though I have a better chance of winning the lottery.. Oh wait make that I have a better chance of winning the lottery on a ticket I found in the street....

I have another acc appointment tonight and I hoping he helps with stress. I am running after work to that and than to visit Dh (hosptial) and than off to home to straighten for my mom to come vist..

love and hugs

[CarolynB]

Jackie - Hope that acu went well. Fingers crossed that the op on your dh goes well & he is doing ok. Then you Mum arrives. How nice is that

Have you asked your acu about trying to help either lower your fsh level or to boast your eggs. I read in the book by the UK Fertilty Godess (Zita West) that they can help boast egg numbers. I also heard that diet can help improve the quality & number of eggs. Look I have no idea if I am talking drivel but I am sure for any of us - anything is worth a try

Hey - quiting smoking to help the cause is terrific. You may also note an improvement in the eggs next go as your whole system gets a lot healthier. Good for you - I am sure that must have been v v tough for you. My dh was like a 30 a day guy. But he gave up about 2-3 years ago. He is so much healthier now than he was then

Laura - I think that it must hve been very hard to be around so many babies. You must be a very brave lady to handle that. It will be your turn.....................but as Jackie says may be just 1 or even 2 but not 25. I cannot eevn imagine what a racquet it must have been - but joyous and sad all at the same time. One of the guys at works wife gave birth to number 3 today. Two boys and now a girl. He is a great bloke and his wife is lovely but I am like how come they get 3 and we cannot even maange just 1!!!????

Em - are you still managing to stay totally chilled out girl? Hope that you are not doing toobadly with dh away - when is he back home?

Dania - your scan must be really soon - what date is it? Fingers crossed. It will be so thrilling to see the little heart beat on the screen

Veronika - op on Monday, I'll be 3 weeks behind you

So over and out from me. AF just here but the acu has eased the symptoms in the days before she arrives.

Done another monster 14 hour day. Going to treat myself to a cab home and charge the company as it is 10.30pm

DH doing all the housework right now as I am so busy at work. He is been fab. Hope that I don't wear out my welcome before I even get to the op

Good Night.
Carolyn xxxxx

[jackoa21]

Carolyn
I dont think you could ever wear out your welcome with your DH.. I can not belive what long days you work
I am glad your acc guy was able to help with the AF symptons

Its funny you bring up the goddess Zita.. I have heard so many ladies talk about her.. My acc guy actually had to reschdule to tomorrow but that is good because now when I go I can ask him questions.. I was actually going to ask him about diet and so forth because he has not really mentioned it.. I probably should give the poor guy a break because I have only seen him the one time and if he had come at me with " take this herb and eat these foods" and so forth and so on I probably would have thought the was a bit odd.
I tell you these days there is no pleasing me..

My hubby is all settled into the hospital for his opp tomorrow. I have to tell you that tonight was hard.. i was tired after work (nothing close to Carolyn's marathon 14 hour days but a long day for me) and I went to the hosptial.. DH is only have a minor surgery (getting a filter put in to help with his blood clot problems) but when I got off the floor at the hosptial I realized that he was on the floor of babies.. For some reason on this entire floor (5 floor hospital) there are all these wings with babies and moms and than this one hallway with pullmonary patients? I tried so hard not to get upset but by the time I made my way to his room I was
crying.. Poor DH hooked up to all these things was holding me in the bed trying soothe my heart.. He is so good to me....

They gave him his happy juice to put him to sleep and I came home.. It will be a better day tomorrow he gets home and than as Carolyn said my mom is coming on Saturday

Veronika we will be thinking of you on Monday.. The Opp will go great.. Keep us posted..

to all the other amazingly lovely ladies hello and I am keeping you all in my thoughts and prayers.......

goodnight I am off to bed..

love and hugs
Jackie

[Xrayem]

Hi guys,

Sorry its been a couple of days, but I was so tired after work on thursday and then DH got home last night (YAY!). Had to work a half day this morning but home now. We are going out to dinner with a group of couples from our clinic. Its being organised by the social club and I'm really looking forward to it. It'll be nice to meet (face to face) other couples in our predicament. DH is not so keen. Have told him that no-one will ask his sperm count, but he was sad at that because his is excellant!

Veronika - good luck for your op on monday! We'll all be thinking of you.

Carolyn - you are working such long days! You're an accountant, right? My DH is one too and he works too much....please take it easy and look after yourself.

Jackie - I hope DH's op goes ok. I've done a few of those filter placements (and removals) and they are pretty safe. He'll be in good hands. How sweet of him to comfort you when he's in hospital! Oh and well done you for stopping smoking! You will feel much better for it!

Laura - I don't know how you do your job. You must have the patience and self-control of a saint. I get jumpy whenever I see a pregnant woman (lucky for me the Ultrasound waiting room is not near my patient's waiting room!) and as for caring for 25 babies - did you wanna just steal one???

I was thinking that we should start a new list so we all know where everyone is up to. I know approximate dates for me, so please add yours in.

17th July - Veronika - Tube Op.
19th July - Em - IVF counselling appointment.
28th July - Em - AF due (start Clomid day 3).
10th Aug - Em - IUI?????
26th Aug - Em - Test date?????

[jackoa21]

Ladies thank you for your thoughts DH is home and Doing well.

EM you were right the op itself was a breeze.. His all back to normal.. I ended up having to cancel the acc appoinment until Monday which is ok because I plan on going with my mom and picking up Zita West book so I will have lots of questions and maybe even suggestions for him. Do you guys think it would be rude to offer him suggestions.. meaning if he does not know different diet ideas that Zita mentions should I mention it or just do it.. I am so darn indesicive these days..

I just wanted to pop in and tell Veronika that I know things will go great on Monday and I am thinking of you and keeping you in my prayers..


Dania hello how are you and your little one

Carolyn I agree with EM you are amazing with the hours you work. Get it all in now because soon you will be too busy changing nappys (ok I put that in but I am not sure its the right word) does it mean diapers.. I have read it over and over again on the boards. I think thats what it means...

I dont have much to add but here it goes

17th July - Veronika - Tube Op.
19th July - Em - IVF counselling appointment.
28th July - Em - AF due (start Clomid day 3).
10th Aug - Em - IUI?????
26th Aug - Em - Test date?????
July-Aug- Jackie baby dancing and having fun
11th Sept- Jackie starting final successful IVF

Em you must be so excited I cant belive in about a month you will post your BFP

[CarolynB]

Hi

The weather here is terrific, dh is golfing and then going to a summer afternoon party with lots of our friends and guess what I am in the office At least I avoid all the babies which will no doubt all be at the party At least most of my team & my boss are here too which seems to make it more bearable!

Jackie - glad that dh's op has gone well and that he is back at home with you. What a nightmare having to walk through a whole ward of babies. We can be doing so well and then suddenly something like that makes us totally fall apart. It is nice that your dh understood without you having to say anything at all. Hope that you will have a fab time with your Mum here to help you - sure that you will do. Glad that you are getting the Zita book. I found it pretty helpful although must confess that I am not doing absolutely everything that it says. People do keep commenting on my skin - think that it is doing the 2 litres of water a day Cannot do any harm to ask your acu man on Monday if there are aspects of your diet that you might adjust to help with your body. You made me laugh - nappies - is indeed the right word - cannot wait!!!!!!

Em - Good idea for us to keep a list. Seems then like we are all moving foeward. You are right that I am an accountant - Half Year results announced 26th July so only about 10 days to go. It was after this period last year that I figured that I needed a real break if I was going to focus on getting pregnant (that was before I knew about the tubes). Dh said this morning that he was glad that I was not going to have to do it again. After the sabbatical, I'll probably take a less stressful job, still doing the numbers but maybe in a smaller company or with friends. I work for Reuters (the news agency) and work for the CFO & have almost 400 staff who work for me so it can all get pretty stressful as I am sure that you can imagine. I have not had a break from work for nearly 20 years (at Reuters for the last 11 years altthough in about 15 different jobs) so dh & i agreed that this was my 'present' to myself. If there is anything that you want to ask either before or after the ivf session on Wednesday then just shout and we will try to see if we can help. Hope that dinner was good fun and that you were all able to help each other out Did it help? Did your dh cope???!!!

Veronika - I am absolutely crossing everything that your op is going to go fantastically well for you on Monday. Sure that you'll be recovering for a few days but we will all be waiting to hear that all is unblocked & that you are recovering and fully tubally operational!!!!!!!!!!!

Laura & Dania - Hope that you are both having a nice & relaxing weekend.

I'll add the date for my op below & for me leaving my manic job. Back to boring old work!!!!

Love to you all
Carolyn

[CarolynB]

Our updated list:

17th July - Veronika - Tube Op.
19th July - Em - IVF counselling appointment.
28th July - Em - AF due (start Clomid day 3).
28th July - Carolyn - Work Leaving Party - might permit myself a drink after 77 day without a sip!
4th August - Carolyn - Last Day at Work - YIPPEEE!!!!
7th August - Carolyn - Tubal Surgery
10th Aug - Em - IUI?????
26th Aug - Em - Test date?????
July-Aug- Jackie baby dancing and having fun
11th Sept- Jackie starting final successful IVF

Dania - why not add the dates for your scan? Laura - you should add some dates for you too

[veronika]

Hello ladies,

thank you so much for your thoughts and well-wishes for the op on Monday. I was really touched reading that you have all thought of me! Because it all came so quickly (tha chance for the op) and I am drowning in work (I am trying to finish up my PhD in July, but I do not see it happen ) I didn't ever think of it as something real. So today I started to get scared. I know how ridiculous that is, but I have never been in the hopsital, let alone under general anaesthetic...so here I am: a little coward

Oh Carolyn, I SO hope they can repair us tubally challenged!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will give you the most accurate report of how everything went.

I know I have said this before, but I am just so glad to not be in this alone and to have all of you to talk to and know about.

Jackie,
I think you can talk to your accu-guy about the diet-ideas you have from goddess Zita. She seems to be so well known in the UK (and you are from the US, aren't you?) that it can only be a gain, for the accu guy himself to learn about her.
I am happy your DH is back from the hospital and that everything went fine. He seems to be a very sweet DH indeed!

Em,
thank you for starting the list. Great idea. I have never been on any list (because I only joined you ladies after my BFN) - so finally And it does give me the feeling that we are all moving forward!

Good night for today and much love,
Veronika

[Xrayem]

Hi girls,

Well dinner was great fun....it was more like 6 couples going out - not 6 fertility-challenged couples. Our tmt was not the main topic of conversation, we mostly talked about our travel. Most of the couples had done the UK thing, just as we had.

One couple did 9 IUI's before they finally decided to do IVF. And they succeeded on the fist attempt, with only one embryo! It lifted my spirits greatly. DH was in his element - he's a real talker and loves an audience, so he had everyone laughing with tales of our travels and Darcy-dog.

Carolyn - DH works for Ernst & Young. They work him to the bone, too. You sound like you deserve a break after 11 years! And I think you may just get tipsy on 1 drink after 77 days without any! Thought I might have a look for this Zita West book. I need to loose some weight and DH is keen to get healthier too. (We eat a lot of vegies and chicken, as it is but probably aren't getting all the nutrients we need)

Jackie- Don't tell your DH. Just start cooking from the book and only say something if he does. Thats how I do it. If I tell my DH that we are having diet food, he goes on and on about it, but if I just serve it up, he usually says its yummy.

Veronika - Good luck tomorrow. Try and relax and tell yourself that you are in good hands. It is scary the first time - I cried like a baby as they wheeled me in and I had worked in so many operating theatres before then. But it'll be over before you know it. I'll be thinking of you.

Well, washing has just finished, better hang it up.

Em

[CarolynB]

Veronika - just in case you come here to look today. Before the lap three weeks ago, I had only been into hospital to have my wisdom teeth out. The nurses/doctors will walk you through everything when you get there tomorrow. Guess that they will weigh you and take your height so they can give you the right about of drugs! They'll ask loads of questions. I tell them absolutely everything so that they have all the facts. They will probably give you a pre med that will just make you a little sleepy - just like some big aspirins. I had to wait quite a few hours for the lap and sent my dh to work so took loads of mags, newspapers and my ipod to pass the time. Then I walked down and then a really nice nurse just put me to sleep and the next thing that I knew was back in recovery. I felt a bit sore when I first woke up and I just let one of the nurses know and they gave me some more drugs to take the pain away. Just ask or let them know if you are not happy with anything. You are in good hands and they'll look after you

I am also relieved that I am so busy at work too that I am trying not to think about my op too much. My dh and my Mum are already making plans to get me down to Devon for a few days the week after the op so that I can recover by the sea with my parents to look after me.

Anyway - Veronika




We are so in this together girl!


Em - sounds like a fun & relaxing evening - will you see them all again? 9 IUIs - cricky....that must have given you real confidence in your ivf back up plan. Your dh sounds like a real live wire We use E&Y not as our auditors but they do some of our accounting work for us. They are a really good firm. I trained with Price Waterhouse (now PwC) but that was like 20 years ago. I worked for them for 5 years and then thought that I'd leave for a quieter life ! Yeah right I have been thinking the same - one glass and I'll either be falling over or going to sleep - it should keep everyone entertained

They all think that they know what is going on with me and I am off the booze so I can get pregnant - like it was that easy - right!!!

You can buy the Zita West book on the Internet at Amazon. You can also go to her web site if you are interested in buying her vitamins - they are one tablet, 3 times a day that included everything that she recommends. I have been using VitaFem since my BFN

Likewise - my dh is like why do we need to eat this diet stuff. But we have been eating loads of grilled fish, chicken, vey little red meat and have cut right down on dairy but not taken it out altogether. He actually finds the stuff nice to eat as well. I have found the water (at least 2 litres every day) helps in terms of cleaning up your system and helping to lose weight. I only need to look at a Mars bar and swear that I add 2 lbs . We are eating lots of fruits and nuts as well...........God I so hope that it is all going to pay off

Hope that Jackie, Dania and Laura are all having a great weekend. I have a day out of the office when at least I can work from home - YIPPEEE. 3 weeks and I am a free lady.

Veronika - I shall think of you all day tomorrow. Wishing you unblocked & super dooper tubes from tomorrow evening.

Love Carolyn xxxx

[CarolynB]

Ladies & Jackie (in particular)

Been surfing as bored with work even in the garden!

Quite an interesting thread about acu on Infertility rather than General Board plus reference to some article too

Jackie - this says no acu in 2ww so appears to be in line with what you were saying

Really says that best time is to get yourself ready for a cycle - which is pretty much what we are all doing right now

Just came across it & thought that I should share

Also been to the over 40 thread which has had some fantastic news of late - gave even me really hope.....................

Back to the numbers & cooking the books!
Love Carolyn xxxx

[DaniaBB]

I’ve had a hectic week- I’m doing a certificate at University and they’ve got me quite busy now with all the assignments and exams…I’m away a few days and so much goes on with all you ladies- hope I can keep up.

Veronika- Good luck tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I’ll be thinking of you and wishing you beautiful and clear tubes. Take care of yourself and take it easy during your recovery. I have had an op with general An. Carolyn’s advice is great she hit all the marks- that’s exactly what happens. I do want ot emphasize that you bring something to read cuz the waiting time b4 the op can be long- I waited 4 hrs. Also try to eat a really good snack b4 midnight- I was starving b4 I went in for my op which was only at noon. After I felt better than I expected- only a little light headed for a week and just tired. By the way have you called the acu clinic in Mtl?

Laura- That must have been fun & tough with a room of 25 babies.It such a bitter sweet situation to feel their unconditional love & your heart ache.

Jackie- Congratulations on being cigarette free!!! I’m proud of you it must not have been easy. My mom was a smoker and it was hard for her to quit. Keep it up!!! Glad to hear that your dh is home and that his op went well. You must be resting more easily now.
I agree with Em deifinitely do the baby dance on your own. It sounds like you have a wonderful relationship with your mom- to share all your feelings its great. Yep I agree retail therapy does wonders! My acu said that acu does help make more eggs and strong ones too. As for the diet questions you shoulds definitely ask your acu man- my acu said that fertility was connected to the liver- that’s why they say not to eat fat, meats and dairy since it clouds the liver. Your dad is having a hard time understanding- men don;t feel it the same way as we do.My dh and I had a similar conversation a while back and I had emailed this link to him explaining why.
http://www.babycenter.com/refcap/precon ... 933.html#4


Em- Sorry to hear about how hard it was to deal with your SIL- I’ve been there and it OK let out your feeling its the best way to deal with it. Some of my friends are not very understanding-they took it personally when I had a hard time reacting cheerfully to their annoucements- one gave birth two weeks ago(she lives a 5hr drive away)- she called everyone else but me- she sent me an email 3 days later.Made me feel like crap but its her fears that make her react that way. Your Dr. sounds wise and I think he is on the good route to helping you deal with everything emotionally. I saw a therapist after the bfn and it helped me realise how negative and angry I was and how much I put on a fake happy face to hide my true feelings all the time.

Carolyn- Sounds like it wasn’t easy at at your nephews party- but your mum is amazing to be so helpful and stand up for you in a keen way. It was good that you told her. Your sis’s comment must have been really hard for you. Did you think of telling her when you are alone? Maybe she could be more sensitive. Sending the book on infertility to your mom is a great idea- I did that with A.Domar’s book with my mom a few mths back and she was more understanding afterwards. Knowledge is power! You seem to be working so hard- 14 hr days!!! Wow! I think you should try to rest a few days b4 the op- just so you are not completely burnt out- maybe it would help.

Every day I pray and keep my finger crossed that this is all happening and so I can’t wait for tuesday ! We have our appt with the Dr to confirm it all. Even my dh is being careful- he won’t let me pass the vaccum- he’s even worried about fooling around- since we found out! How ironic- 2 yrs of continuous baby dance and now- dry as the desert! Our acu said it was better not too. It may sound odd but I’m always afraid that they’ll tell me it is all imaginary symptoms that I have- I guess it all goes back to spending 2 yrs hoping every month and being dissapointed that now- it still feels unreal.--Funny that I feel insecure that way! I guess it must be because I was so mad at God and the world after the failed IVF –I had completely given up on both of them. He went and proved me wrong. My dh and I had talked of all the possible alternatives we would do with our lives and had come to the conclusion that having a baby was worth more than any amount of travelling or having a beach house- we were willing to sell our stocks and bonds to pay for as many tmt as required. At that point I felt he wanted it as much as I did that’s when I booked apptmt. At other clinics.. Its so complex and I’m just sooooo analytical. I guess I have to believe what Em’s dr. said- you have to let things go and stop asking too many questions. I hope I don’t make anyone on the board sad or anything- please tell me… I just feel like I’m in the middle of nowhere with my peculiar situation.My dh said it I always have to be different! I want to be there for each of you when you get your BFPs and as Carolyn said I hope I can bring some good luck, I certainly pray for you all.

Hugs and baby dust!
Dania

[DaniaBB]

Our updated list:

17th July - Veronika - Tube Op.
19th July - Em - IVF counselling appointment.
20th July - Dania- 1st doc appt.
28th July - Em - AF due (start Clomid day 3).
28th July - Carolyn - Work Leaving Party - might permit myself a drink after 77 day without a sip!
4th August - Carolyn - Last Day at Work - YIPPEEE!!!!
7th August - Carolyn - Tubal Surgery
10th Aug - Em - IUI?????
26th Aug - Em - Test date?????
July-Aug- Jackie baby dancing and having fun
11th Sept- Jackie starting final successful IVF

[jackoa21]

Hello all

Dania I can't belive July 20th is your first doc's appt you must be so excited. I also wanted to say that we are all friends and we asked you to stay with us. You could never make us sad. We are happy for you and I can say I would feel more sad if you stayed away.. Having you here gives me hope and lets us all see the things we SOON will get to go through.. Please dont ever feel like you are making us sad.....

Carolyn its funny you mentioned the thread I started lurking the other day on here and it really seems common for women to do acc.. Than a friend of mine emailed me about a girl that tired for 3 years and just did ivf but a month and a half ago she started acc so that sounds really promising. I also read Carolyn your 77 days without a sip of achol? That is really amazing.. GREAT JOB and yes I think you are well deserving of one..

Veronika I can only imagne you must be scared (I am also of anything like opp etc) but you have all of us praying and thinking of you and it will go well ( I am sure of it)

Em dinner sounded like it was a lot of fun.. So Darcy Dog?? What kind of dog... Meeting with them must have given you tons of hope...


Love and hugs I am off to visit with my mom and DH..

I miss you all but will post more later

[LauraLou]

Y'all are so good about watching your diets, taking vitamins, etc. I really should try to get more exercise. I belong to a gym but I haven't been there in a very long time.

Veronika, good luck with your operation tomorrow. I will be thinking of you.

Carolyn, your job must be very stressful. I can barely manage myself, neverless 400 people!

Em, dinner sounds like was fun.

Dania, I would be nervous too. I can't wait to hear how your appointment goes.

I am having blood work done this week. It's to look for conditions like protein c deficiency, etc. that cause m/c. The doctor said I really didn't need to have it done because I've only had the one loss, but said it was my choice. I decided to go ahead and have the tests done. At least I will know that there is nothing wrong and I can carry a baby to term.

I am an obessive planner so I have been trying to figure out the dates for my next IVF cycle. Since my cycle varies by a few days each month, I can't be exactly sure but I think my EC will be on 9/20 and the ET on 9/25.

My doctor has added a new drug this time. I will still be doing the Lupron and Follistim but will also add Menopur, which is another stim. I only had 10 eggs last time, so he's hoping this will cause me to have more.

Best wishes!

17th July - Veronika - Tube Op.
19th July - Em - IVF counselling appointment.
28th July - Em - AF due (start Clomid day 3).
28th July - Carolyn - Work Leaving Party
4th August - Carolyn - Last Day at Work - YIPPEEE!!!!
7th August - Carolyn - Tubal Surgery
10th Aug - Em - IUI?????
26th Aug - Em - Test date?????
July-Aug- Jackie baby dancing and having fun
11th Sept- Jackie starting final successful IVF
20th Sept- Laura tenative EC
25th Sept- Laura tenative ET