The Over 40 Crowd

[alisonn]

anna, just would like to say, thinking of you, its so tough the 2ww
people on the outside just dont understand the torment we go thru,
i remember on my 2ww's i just wanted to shut off from everyone
and hide away its was the only way i could handle it.
I really do hope that this is your time.
take care alison

[children]

Anna, my 2 wow was busy, I started peeing on a stick 7 days post transfer and squinting the stick more than half an hour long to look for the second line. I found it both times, the first time, the line showed up on 10 days but it never got any darker after that, in the end, it was a negative. Second time however, it showed up at day 7 and it got darker every 12 hours and it was a positive. About symptoms, other than sleep lighter and tender breasts, nothing more than that. As Tammy said, both neg and pos results give similar symptoms - it just the medications which we are on. I keep my fingers crossed for your positive beta! Oh, eat fresh pineapples - a yummy way to get implantation in place, LOL. It induces elevated temp on me, but it is effective!

[Kat]

Hi everyone,

Nuala – can’t believe you are this far along already! You are an inspiration.
Tammy, Bev & Yasmina – you too, good luck for your next scans.

To all you pg ladies – what were your fertility issues ? Was it male factor or were your eggs not good? Or both? I am just trying to see if there is any small hope for me…

Bev – thanks for your kind words, I am fine most of the time and then I just have bad moments, so I suppose I must be doing OK as it’s not permanently at the front of my mind. If I could only have an explanation as to why I am not 'allowed' to have a child when other people are then maybe I could deal with it better but I know that won't happen.

Son – sorry to hear of your lack of follicles, I have been there too but don’t take me as an example, everyone is different and you may well find on another cycle you react in a completely different way

Lisa – so glad to see you get to look after Mia at least for the near future. 3 years does seem a long time but as you say it is not a straightforward situation and the longer you have with her the more you will bond and the more difficult it would be for a judge to decide to take that bond away, surely.

Yasmina – my sister had absolutely no morning sickness with her first pregnancy and then was very sick with her second and both were girls…

Anna – good to hear from you. Did IM do anything different this time? Did they suggest any extra tests ? I’ll be thinking of you on Monday. I really thought af was coming and then I got a bfp so you never can tell.

Has anyone heard from Debra or Randa? Or Big J – she must be due soon ?

I know it's silly but I often think what I could have done in my life differently to have not ended up in this situation - I suppose because I am still looking for an explanation - does anyone else do this? I know I am not to blame but then I think well if I hadn't done that or if I had done that differently then maybe...
I don't mean during tmt but way before that - surely there must be some effects from things I have done in the past. What goes around comes around and all that.

That makes me sound really flaky - I'm quite a stable person really. Honest! Although I do talk to myself a lot...

Love to all
Kat xx

[teachertam]

Kat:
It is good to hear from you. We did not have any male fertility factor and the problem with me, supposedly, was that I did not release mature eggs.

Allison: Good to hear from you.

I had my second scan today. My little baby measured 17.7mm long and his/her heart was beating away. The ultrasound estimated my pregnancy as 8w1d, so I may be 3 days off of my estimate. It gave me a due date of March 6, 2007. I go back in 2 weeks.

Regards,
Tammy

[erjumper]

Kat,
I think those things all the time. I wonder if i'm being punished in some way for some insult upon the cosmic equilibrium in some previous life....yada, yada. I think however strange our thoughts we're quite normal. My theory of the week is that I was supposed to have our tiny foster baby and she is supposed to be with us forever but if ever in the future some crotchety old judge having a bad day decides to send her to her bio mom, my attitude and my emotional stability will go crashing to an all-time low. Which is saying something because with all the IVF's with resulting miscarriages i've been in the trenches more than once. I think it's safe to say if you weren't feeling this bad, you don't want it bad enough. Fairness i've decided has absolutely nothing to do with it. Have you thought of adopting? Or fostering? I had concerns initially that my DH would have trouble bonding with a foster baby but WOW...i couldn't have been more wrong. She is the center of his world!! Maybe you could love a foster baby too? Just a thought. Hope your spirits lift soon.
Lisa

[children]

Kat, my DH had low sperm motility but normal counts. After a surgery on some veins to correct the varicocele, his sperms were back to normal, but I was still not preg. My RE then suspected that I might have some problems – she did not suspect me before because I had one pregnancy previously. She did HSG and found my tubes are fine, although my fallopian tubes have a lot of side tracks resulted from salpingitis isthmica nodosa. Later, my RE did laparoscopy and found that the outside of my uterine was a mess – massive adhesion (scar tissues) in pelvic area. My RE said they resulted from some kind of infections years ago. That was why I did massages on the belly to help the movement of my reproductive organs and circulation of blood in that area. REs do not believe massages, they think ivf is all I need get around the problem. I can not pinpoint which part of what I did helped, but it might be everything.

I do hope that you find what you believe what is wrong and what is right, after a while, you will find that you understand yourself more than your RE! Then you can work on those issues to get yourself a baby one way or the other!

About the morning sickness, I agree with you, I heard both ways, some say boys give more trouble to mom, some say girls do. I also read articles about morning sickness associating with some hormones required for baby’s neural development. It associates with less likelihood of pre-term babies or mc. However, we see enough both ways, your sister is one of the many examples. I am a gambler, I have 50% chance to be right (or wrong), I gamble with my hope.

Tammy, wonderful news on your baby scan! Great, now you know your due date, everything looks promising. Your baby tripled in size in less than two weeks, amazing! You need to tell me what you eat so that I can eat better to help my baby grow. My little one only doubled in size since last scan. Anyway, at 12 weeks, we need to celebrate!

Ok, enough personal things at work, later girls. Take care!

[teachertam]

Yasmina:

I think both of our babies are right on track, based on what I have read regarding size. I am making sure that I get my 1200 mg of calcium everyday. I am also trying to get my my required fruit and veggies and protein. I always get my carbs.........lol. I don't have to keep track of that one. It was so neat today. I could see the head!

We will definitely have to celebrate 12 weeks!! Yours will come 1 week before mine. I have 2 more scans with my RE, one at 10 w 1 day and one at 12 w 1 day. I will then be released to my OB/GYN. That will suck because I won't get scans every 2 weeks. I believe they do them monthly.

Tammy

[DebraP]

Hello to those who remember me.

Good luck Anna and Many Many Congratulations to the slew of you who fianlly got that BFP. I very rarely read the board and whilst it's lovely to see your good news, selfishly it doesn't help me and right now I'm looking for ways to get 'me' back and feeling positive.

Just saw Kat's Q. and thought I'd let you know where/how I am.

Just back from a 5 week break - Sicily and the UK. I used it to try and break with the past and move on. Not doing desperately well so far but it's early days. I posted that my goal was to find a new job in 2006, well I did it and start full time on Monday. I'm sad to stop teaching/working for myself but need to become totally fluent in the language so as to make long term plans.

I wish you all good luck.
hugs
Debra

[donna99]

Debra,

I have private messaged you.

With love,

Donna XX

[ogr1]

i have been clicking on the last page # for this topic and it kept comming back no post.

it is very hard to get yourself back.
i had used a couple of different pills from my doc but they never did a lot.

i still think that if i would have done this or that would i be holding my child now.

there is nothing i can do to change my yesterdays. but threw all of the hell i am going to make my tomarrows count..

yes i would love to have our baby son or daughter
but i have to have today to.



big j is trying to stay cool in the heat

[Sonix]

Hi ladies,

Thank you so much for your posts and encouragement! It’s really helped me pull myself together again.

Yasmina: Thanks for sharing your thoughts and ideas. I think you are dead right about all these “miracles” having some sort of explanation. That’s why I can’t now go back to normal life, try to relax and pretend I could just get pregnant naturally. I wasted several years because I was stupid enough to think if I waited long enough it would just happen sometime.
DH and I have made an appointment with our RE for next Thursday. I wasn’t in the right state to start asking intelligent questions after my last scan. I want to find out more about what he thinks the issues could be and I’ll be reading up some more on the internet in the meantime. Can’t just rely on the dr though. Like you say, I think doctors tend to concentrate on IVF.

Actually it was my 3rd try with different meds and different dosages. My ER has a very good reputation in this area and has done may studies including the positive effects of psychotherapy and acupuncture. The clinic also does acupuncture and I had it along with ET on my IVF cycle. So they must have more to offer me too.

Hi Anna, great to hear from you again. I’ll be thinking of you this weekend and hope you are coping well. Sending you lots of PMA and baby dust! Not long to go now…

Tammy, thanks too, for your posts on the other thread. Great news on your scan. All sounds very promising.

Must go now…we’re expecting visitors. There’s a big festival on in town this weekend. I’ll try to pop in again soon.

Take care everyone
Son xxx

[AMck]

Hi Ladies, just thought I'd pop in and see how everyone is!
It's quiet here this weekend. Is everyone enjoying good weather?
Thank you for the messages of support, I am slowly but surely going completely crazy. PMA really low today. I have had strong AF cramps for 2 days now and have convinced myself it's a BFN. Am due to test tomorrow but couldn't get through to the drs to make an appointment so maybe won't get bloodwork done until Tues now AARRGGHH!

I hope everyone is OK. Good luck to all. Hugs x
Thanks for listening
Take care
Anna x

[teachertam]

Anna:

I'm sorry to hear that you are feeling blue today. Please don't give up. I had AF cramps during the wait. I was sure that I was going to start AF any time, but I never did. I even had AF cramping during the first few weeks of pregnancy. I had myself convinced it was an ectopic pregnancy. I breathed a sigh of relief once I saw the beanie and heartbeat at my first scan. If you cannot get into the doctor tomorrow, you could always take a HPT.

Tammy

[BevT]

Anna,

Just popping in quickly to wish you luck for tomorrow. Please don't give up hope just yet - the symptoms game is such an uncertain one. Sending you love and luck through the "waves".

Bev xxx

[Kat]

Anna
Just wanted to wish you good luck, will be thinking of you.
I too had cramps and was absolutely convinced af was coming so much that I was crying at work and then I got a bfp so hang in there....

Kat xx