April/May Buddies??

[jackoa21]

Hello laides...

Carolyn I am so glad you are home safe and sound.. I understand how frustrated you must have been but I really think you are on a great track with the tubes being all connected.. I am with Em and I would add in the IUI.. that would put everything right where it needs to be.. How was your choclate bar? You deserved it after all you have been through....

Em
I am sorry you have had such a rough go. How are you doing today? You only need one follie...Have you had a follow up with your doc? I will be crossing fingers and toes and saying all my prayers for you

Vessi
My dear it was so good to here from you and to here how good you and the little ones are doing.. You sound so well and I can speak for all of us we are truly so happy to have you with us.. We missed you.. Please dont ever feel like we dont share your joy You being so well just makes us see that it will happen for us.. PMA PMA PMA

Veronkia that is great about AF coming early... so you will just be baby dancing naturally right.. You and Carolyn will be our natruals for this thread..

Carolyn one other thing to mention is just think with the dates you mentioned in about a month you will be getting a BFP.......

Laura you must be getting excited. How are you feeling? Loads of PMA???

For me my acc guy gave me a herb (to mix in water) for the next couple of days.. He really did not have any reason for the recent weight gain or bloating except to say Hopefully its AF.. I dont think he is right but I can always pray right.....I am doing ok just feel like my cycle is so far away..l I was trying to feel really positive with at least all this waiting we could try but with no AF we are just standing still. The one good thing is I have tried to take this time to heal emotionally (as much as possible) I have my moments. Some times I am so excited and other times I am scared out of my mind.. OH well. Off to work..I will post more later

Love and hugs and thinking of you all
Jackie

[Xrayem]

hi ladies!

Better news for me today. I got the call yesterday that today was the day and decided to have one last look at my follies. Again the bugger on my right ovary was 12mm. Then my mate said she'd try extra hard to find my left ovary (no-one had seen it) and she just burst out laughing. It had wiggled itself right up high and had 2 biggies on it (23mm and 19mm!!).

So had the IUI this morning and it was extremely painful as my cervix wasn't co-operating but its over now and I am officially on the 2ww! I have taken today off as I haven't slept all week with worry and the 5am starts each morning for bloods didn't help! I just woke up then (I have been asleep for 4 hours!)

I hope this is the one...

Carolyn- Good to hear you are home! Sounds like you have had pretty major surgery so listen to your body and give it what it needs. A chocolate bar sounds perfect!

Vessi - glag you and your angels are ok.

Jackie- I'm sorry that you are feeling bloated and crappy. I've also put on weight but I have this arguement with myself that I need to eat what my body needs so I'll worry about trying to lose it later.

Veronika - good to finally get started huh!

Em

[CarolynB]

Em - that is such good news. Sorry that it was painful but way to go girl. May be it is going to be third time lucky for you. Cannot believe that they had not found the big uns before for you. Why is this all such a rollercoaster for all of us???!!!
I really really hope that this is going to be the one for you hun. Make sure that you take really good care of yourself over the next couple of weeks. We will be rooting for you.

I am so frustrated and bored! I have no patience and as you say all my body is telling me is that it needs to rest. I just seem to get tired so easily right now.

Jackie - chocolate bar was absolutely wonderful - only issue is not that it has made me want another one I am certainly going to ask him about the iui to see what he says when we see him again on Tuesday. Glad that your acu was able to give you some herbs to help. Hope that they can get you going. We will have to start doing an AF jig for you as well. Hopefully she will be here soon and then you'll be able to get going. I am sure that we all have our days when we feel excited and then other days when we feel really cheesed off & down in the dumps. I am afraid that it seems to be part of our journey...............

Veronika - it is really good that the lap did not mess up your AF at all and actually helped you. You must take that as a good sign. I am crossing my fingers and toes that the lap has done the job for you. Have they mentioned iui for you???

Vess - thanks for popping by to check up on us. Glad that you are doing well with both your little ones

Dania - hope all is well with you & the little one

Laura - hope that you are doing well and that AF is here for you so that you can work out your dates and come up with a plan

I am still in a lot of pain even with the paracetomol and ibuprofen at regular intervals. I guess it is expected as I am only 4 days post-op. I have picked up a cold and it absolutely kills me when I sneeze or cough. I just feel like I have no energy at all but I guess that is to be expected. At least I do not have to worry about work which is a big bonus for me.

I guess like all of us I just hope that the effort that I am putting in is going to be rewarded. Just have to keep focusing on recovering as best as I can and then keep praying.........

I have booked train tickets down to my parents in Devon after seeing the consultant and having the stiches out first thing Tuesday. I will go down there for about 6 days so that I can be well looked after. Hopefully I will still be able to post via my Blackberry so hope that I can stay in touch with you all.

Take good care. Hope everyone has a nice weekend.
Love Carolyn xxx

[LauraLou]

The one month I really want AF to arrive and she's late! I am now on day 34 of my cycle and in the last two year's I've been charting, mine has never lasted more than 30-32 days. I did a HPT on Thursday which was negative, so she's just being stubborn. As soon as AF finally gets here, I can set up the dates for my baseline scan and lupron start. The extra waiting makes me very cranky.

I've been at work all night, worked an extra this week to cover someone's vacation so I'm exhausted. I've got another baby shower this weekend, my second this month. I keep telling myself soon it will me my turn.

Sorry no time for personals but I'm off to bed.

Laura

[veronika]

Hello ladies!

Vessi,
I am happy that you an your little ones are doing well.


Dania,
how are you? I hope you're feeling well and can enjoy our beautiful summer!

Em,
Congrats! That's a nice surprise about those two biggies hidden all the time. Hopefully you manage to not think about being on the 2ww all the time...

Carloyn,
I can so feel with you. It's just so boring being glued to bed and inactivity. But when you're in Devon you will definetly be feeling better and maybe can take walks at the beach.
We were told about the IUI option, or rather, my doctor said that this would be his recommendation, because, well, it's just more efficient than the natural baby dancing. I wanted to get started with it right away, but then I decided to wait one month just because I am so stressed out and wanted to have more time to conentrate on eating well, sleeping well etc. Right now I feel like I can even wait a little longer, but really, I change my mind about this every 10 minutes. Let's just wait and see how I feel after this month.

Laura Lou,
It is really annoying to be waiting for AF. Our body sometimes really plays tricks on us. First thing I would have done was buy a pack of pregnancy tests..
For sure it will be your turn for the baby shower! It will happen, there is a whole new IVF coming up for you!

Jackie,
What about AF. Any signs yet?

I am starting another day of writing. But it's ok, I am sitting on the balcony, the sun is shining and I am glad it's still summer. Here's one of my classical decision-turnovers. I think next month I WILL be starting the IUI. I want things to speed up again. Waiting just isn't my thing (who's thing is it anyway )

Sending you my hugs!!

Veronika

[jackoa21]

hello

Em that is amazing that they found the extra follies. I am so happy for you.. I am sorry it was painful but just think its all done now and you are well on your way to your BFP

Carolyn
I am glad the choclate was good.. I can only imagine how bored you must be... you are a go go go type person so you are proably going a bit stir crazy...Not to sound corny but can you do a hobby (writing or sewing) I am not very good at anything like that but it could take your mind of things maybe...

Veronika
I am you about the waiting game.. Its a cruddy game and I stink at it.. Your day of writing sounds really lovely.. I think you are right and the IUI it has to make the odds even better

Laura
I am sorry about your stubborn AF she can be really evil.. How are you feeling??? It will be your turn very soon for a shower....

For me no AF but that is expected with the PCOS.. I am a little disapointed that I could not even try naturally but I have to say as crappy as that is DH does not mind the abscensce of AF for a couple of months.. Oh well it will just be crazy heavy when they give me the shot to bring her on.. I hope this is not a sign of things to come (meaning things being difficult)

I am off to shop and will post more
love and hugs
Jackie

[Xrayem]

Hi guys,

Carolyn - Poor you! There's nothing worse than being a go-getter and then being confined to bed. I'm the same. It won't be for much longer and then you can concentrate on being a kept woman for a while!

Laura - AF can be a cow can't she! She will come, in her own sweet time. Its frustrating though, all this waiting. I'm not a very patient person and so I can relate to how upsetting setbacks can be. Hang in there.

Jackie - Still no AF for you? What can they do if she doesn't come? Can they start without her? I don't know much about PCOS, sorry. I hope she comes and you guys can get under way soon.

Veronika - Good idea to go with the IUI's. They say that a woman has a 25% chance of falling pregnant naturally in any given month and the IUI has around a 15% chance which I take as meaning that provided your nice clean tubes are good to go, you should have a 40% chance. Which I also take to mean that the odds are it will fall within 3 goes. Now I might be wrong with all these figures (I was never very good with stats) but its all about PMA isn't it?

Well, DH suprised me on friday by ringing and saying pack a bag and drop the dog off and he took me off to the Gold Coast for the weekend. We had a lovley relaxing time and I am back feeling very refreshed and stocked up on the PMA.

My test dat, by the way will be the 25th August, so fingers and toes.....

Em

[Xrayem]

Whooops Veronika,

I just read over my message and realised I'd written: "Which I also take to mean that the odds are it will fall within 3 goes." I meant YOU will fall PREGNANT.

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[DaniaBB]

Carolyn- I was pleasantly surprised to see you posted so soon after your Op. That’s great. Wow a 7hr wait must have been so long.Sounds like the nurse was sweet to give you info b4 you met with the doc. I think its great news that they managed to repair your tubes and now you can try on your own. I’m praying that it works. I do agree with Em that in addition to trying on your own doing a few IUI’s might also be a good back up plan that is more controlled. It must be awful to have a swollen belly but it will be worth it. I think its a good plan to continue acupuncture. It’s amazing that you ‘ll be able to try only in a few weeks. You know that I read in my acu book to put a heating pad on my belly for 20-30 mins. every day after your AF until a few days after ovu(along with the weekly acu –using the heating lamp too)- I did that –maybe it can help you too.
It must be hard to be lying down all day long but listen to your body so that you can be in top shape in 2 wks for the baby dancing!! Treat yourself to something special (that includes you staying in bed ofcourse). A trip at your paretns sounds great- by the beach-it will replenish your energy.

Jackie- Sounds like you had a really fun trip! Fishing must have been a blast! Don’t worry about the extra weight- by the way I think its wasn’t kind of your Dr. to smirk at you trying on your own- Rules were made to be broken!!!(My Dr. didn’t even want us to do another IVF without doing my surgery-he said we would waste our time I can’t wait to send him a letter next week after the ultrasound.) I think you should try on your own no matter what! I’m curious to hear how your acu went?

Lauralou- Maybe your AF is late b/c you are so tired from working a lot. Keeping my fingers crossed your AF gets here soon!.Hang in there!!!!


Em- I’m sorry to hear that your follie has caused you so much heartache – That ABSOLUTELY AMAZING that they found two BIG ones on the other side!!Yeah! I’m praying that this is your month for a BFP!! Your DH sounds very romantic- you must have had a greta time little getaway .

Veronika- you must be happy to finish your PHD soon. Only a few weeks to go? Good luck with trying on your own- I’m praying that this is your month!! I think you have a great backup plan with the IUI. Yes I have been enjoying our great summer as much as I can- we have a pool so we’ve acutally put it to full use. I have been in school 5 days a wk –I’m doing an intensive course in Web Design(I’m changing careers) so weekends are spent doing homework as well.So I’ve been quite exhausted from everything. Have you called the acu clinic I had mentionned a while back? In July another 2 ladies annouced they we were pregnant(both after 8 wks of treaments- her success rates are pretty good. My friend who’s been trying for 5 yrs(secondary infertility)- started this week .


I’m really happy and feel a little more relaxed now that we have touched the 12wk mark- but as my acu said you don’t graduate until the 13th week.The weirdest has been not telling our friends- I always feel a little uncomfortable around them I wonder if they sense that we are hiding something. Tomorrow afternoon is our first ultrasound – which I’m really excited about and can’t wait ! They’ll also be checking any spinal diseases as well and then we can finally annouce it!

Thinking of you all and praying for you- I'm confident that with your determination you'll all be BFP soon!!
Sending you hugs!
Dania

[CarolynB]

Lots of posting - it is really great to ctach up with what everyone is up to - good & bad!!!

Dania - you have done so well not to tell everyone and to keep your big secret from all your friends. You must be so ready to burst with the good news. I cannot believe it when I look at your ticker and you are already beyond 12 weeks. That really is terrific. Good luck with your studying - don't over do it. Even more luck for your scan. Do let us know how it all goes. We will be crossing fingers & toes that all is well. Thanks for the advice about the warm pad. I am definitely continuing with the acu (just he told me that I needed a couple of weeks recovery after op before he saw me) and so am going to see my acu cutie when I am back from Devon so will ask him about it too.

Em - what a lovely way to start your 2ww with dh whisking you away - what a sweetie! The more things that you can do to take your mind off the waiting the better. Sounds like a really lovely weekend. I was so pleased to see you have updated your ticker so we can count down to your test date.

Jackie - Like the others, I am afraid that I don't know much about PCOS. I guess that in the end they give you some injections to bring on AF for you? I am sure that it is really frustrating for you. Any news from you after your latest acu session - was he able to help you at all? I do have lots of things that I want/like to do around the house and also I love horse racing but not too easy to do anything on either 'hobby' right now. Not sure that I have the patience for hobbies that you do sitting down . Hope that you managed some retail therapy to cheer you up

Laura - Sounds like you are having to work very hard and then have the added strain of going to another shower on top plus waiting for AF too. That is rough. I hope that the shower was not too painful and that your AF is just around the corner. You'll be starting real soon Laura

Veronika - It is so hard to make the choices - when all we all want to know is what should we do that will work & give us a BFP!!! I am sure that we are going to be faced with the same dilema that you are wrestling with - natural - iui - ivf - FET. At least it is good that we now have some more options than we had before. I know that before I could never have got pregnant naturally - I saw my pictures - totally blocked up - so I guess that I must be in a better place than I was a week ago!!?? You must get yourself to the acu place that Dania recommends as it really sounds like it is the place to go!!! May be after you have completed your PhD then you'll have a little bit more time??

It seems that we are all waiting-waiting- waiting for something all the time.............and it seems like we are all go get type people so it is frustrating for all of us in different ways.

I have done a little better over the last couple of says. Cold/cough is still a right pain in the neck as it is total agony when I cough but I have at least ventured out the last couple of days - just 10 mins walk up the road to get a newspaper. But it beats being inside all day long!!!

I was also thinking of how stressed I was last Sunday before the op - so I am doing a lot better this Sunday than last Sunday!

I am really looking forward to getting down to my parents in Devon. As you all say, I can take long walks by the sea and really chill out. It will be a nice break. My youngest sister will be down there for the first few days (she does not know about our issues) so that will be good as will mean that it does not get talked about all the time! Then I'll be there for a few days with just my parents. My dh is going to stay in London so he has some time to play golf and be with his mates. I think that this will be good for him as guess sometimes it is hard for our dhs whilst we are in this process.

We will certainly be asking the consultant about iuis after all your comments. Will let you know what he has to say. I have a sense that his steer will be completely natural but not sure that I have the patience.

Have a good week everyone.
Love to you all
Carolyn xxx

[jackoa21]

Em
Your weekend sounded really nice and how sweet of your hubby to surprise you.. It also is great that you are full of PMA.. Just think very soon you will be well on your way to a BFP

Dania it is so good to here from you and It must be so exciting to think you get your ultrasound and than you can tell everyone your amazingly wonderful news....

Laura any sign from AF.. She can be soooo horrible...She will show up soon she is just being stubborn..

Carolyn
I am so impressed you have already been out (even for a quick walk) you will be all healed in no time. Leave it to you to be up and about and you will not take this lying down.. You are just a fighter thats all there is to it...Your trip to Devon will be nice. When do you get to go...


For me the acc guy gave me a herb and he was hoping that if AF was around this would push her over the edge but no sign of her..Its ok I really should have known that she would not show up.. I just am now trying to be as healthy as possible and than the start of September they will give a shot to bring her on and we will go with IVF....


Veroika when is your PHD done? You must be so proud. Now you will get that all done and get your BFP..

I will post more later..
Love and hugs

[LauraLou]

Well AF finally arrived last night. My baseline scan/lupron start will be 9/1. Based on what happened last time, my ER would be on 9/27 and ET on 10/2. He has added another stim this time, Menapur, so that may change things a lttile.

I am afraid to get my hopes up too much this time. I don't want to jinx it by being negative but I just don't have the enthusiasm and positive attitude I did the first time.

I guess my goal this month is to work through my fears so I can have lots of PMA in September!

Laura

[Xrayem]

Yippeeeeee!!!!! Laura! FINALLY!!!!!

You must be so pleased to be getting on with it! And hey, let your hopes soar as high as they want because remember, you got a BFP on your first attempt (I know it eneded badly ) so that means that your body must respond really well to IVF. Every one of my girlfriends had a m/c before they fell naturally. I think of it as a false start, as the body tries out all the hormones.

Em

[CarolynB]

Laura - Great news. It is a pain that she is here but great news now that you can start planning your dates. I saw another lady post about her 2nd attempt and her thoughts were like you. Excited to be trying again but also a little scared as she knew that it might not work & how that can feel. My guess is that 2nd time is a little less daunting as at least we all know what is involved. 1st time I was very apprehensive about how my body would react to the drugs and whether I would be able to cope with all the injections etc etc. I think that if you can stay balanced that would be great for your body and your mind. Are you going to acu to help - sorry of you said already but it might be worth supporting your ivf with acu - surely it can only help?? You'll be following behind our Em!!!

Em - only 10 days to go already. Sure that it is dragging by for you but seems to be moving quite quickly for you now. Hope that you are taking good care of yourself hun

Veronika - I keep changing my mind too..............!!!! ARRRGGGG

Dania - Hope that all goes well with your scan - so exciting

Jackie - I am off to Devon tomorrow after consultation and the stitches are out. I will be there from tomorrow until next Monday. I hope that I will be able to stay in touch via my Blackberry again although it is harder to write long messages as the screen format is really strange. I am so bad techie-wise that I am just gobsmacked that I have got it up and running at all Hope that you will be able to get started real soon

I have felt a little more able to do things today so started an assault on tidying up our home office so it is in a fit state for me to work in. Think that it looks worse than when I started Anyway - in much better shape than I was a week ago!!!!

I booked acu session for next Tuesday with the cutie when I am back from Devon.

Dh and I need to have a good talk tonight ahead of the consultation tomorrow. I guess that I am minded to do 2 months of natural baby dancing (Sept and Oct) and then if that delivers no result then to say that I'd like to do either a fresh or FET pre-Xmas. Not sure that I can go just the natural route and wait and hope month after month. Also really want to give it my best shot whilst I am off work.............god knows what the right thing to do is???

Have been looking at iui after all your comments but at my age they are not viewed very +vely so now uncertain again on this angle too.....

Anyway, I shall have to have the talk with dh to see what he thinks and then see what our consultant is minded to do tomorrow.

I'll try to post afterwards from my Blackberry and let you know what we have decided to do. Hope that I shall be able to stay in touch. If not then I am back from Devon next Monday. I shall be thinking of you all as I relax by the sea and let my Mum fuss over me!!!!

Take good care all.
Love Carolyn xx

[jackoa21]

Laura
YEAH the lady finally showed up.. I know you are nervous about getting too excited but we will keep up the PMA for you.. This will be your time.. You and Em will get us off to a great start

Em
How are you feeling.. All the little ones all snuggled in for a long 9 month nap?

Carolyn
That is great you will be with family to take care of you. You just rest up and get all pampered (you will need your rest) very soon you will be a preggers lady and need all the sleep you can get It sounds like you have a lot of options.. I agree you and DH will come up (with the consultant) of the best route for you to go.. It will work just keep up the PMA

For me I have acc tonight so I am just looking forward to that.. Since no AF it looks like I will probably just be getting the shot and starting the end of September...

Love and hugs
Jackie