Xrayem- For downregging, I am injecting Lupron 10 units daily until my period starts, in about 10-11 days. Then I will drop the Lupron to 5 units and start taking the stims, Follilstim and Menapur. I'm not sure if this qualifies as a short or long cycle.
Last time I didn't have any side effects until I started the progesterone, but I only took the Lupron and Follistim, the Menapur is new. The only thing I really dread are the progesterone injections. My butt was black and blue and the shots made me so stiff and sore that I walked with a limp!
I haven't told anyone I've started this cycle except my husband and y'all, not even my mother.
I feel really calm right now. Not super excited like last time, but not depressed or negative like I've been this summer. I know many people who were successful on their second try so I am cautiously optimistic about our chances this time.
I had a patient Thursday night who delivered a beautiful full term baby girl who had a heart defect. The defect was much worse then they expected and there was nothing the doctors could do. The baby died shortly after birth. She and her husband spent several hours holding their baby before I took it to the morgue. It was a grim reminder that there are no guarantees in life and as much pain and anguish infertility has caused me, there are other pains that are so much worse.
Working on the high risk ob unit, I see so much loss and grief but I also see miracles, love and joy. We have all experienced grief and loss but I truly believe that our miracles are just around the corner.
Laura
April/May Buddies??
Hi Guys.
Laura - just read your post. What a horrible thing to go through! My friends always say that they could never do my job - diagnosing cancer, etc but tyhe bulk of my patients are elderly (over 75) and so I always think that they have had a good innings and if I reach 75 I will be pleased. But working with babies who die after only 2 hours on this earth? You deserve a humoungous hug. It is people like you that make the earth go round.
It seems that I will only have the Puregon injections for stimming. I have the sniffing (synarel) for down regging and then pessaries for progesterone. I think I am getting off lightly. Please forgive my ignorance...it is my first go at this,
Carolyn - keep up the baby dancing.. thats an order!!!!
Jackie - As far as I can work out, a short cycle fits within your normal cycle and a long one stretches it out a little. I dont know what the benifits of each are. Does anyone? I like the idea of a short as potentially if the next cycle faiils we can flick straight on to a FET.
My DH managed to get us into the corporate box for a rugby league game today. It was so nice. A limo picked us up and took us to the stdium and then we had all you could eat buffet and drinks to watch the game then our limo met us outside and whisked us home again. I have had way too many wines but figured that I could cut loose today...its only day 7. Baby dancing shall increase from here in...although after 5 years have lost the confidence that we will get a natural BFP.
Love to you all, and being a planner, have done up a list of email addresses.....very sad I am....
xrayem@hotmail.com
jacqueline.grotkowski@oomc.com
carolyn.bresh@yahoo.co.uk
em
Laura - just read your post. What a horrible thing to go through! My friends always say that they could never do my job - diagnosing cancer, etc but tyhe bulk of my patients are elderly (over 75) and so I always think that they have had a good innings and if I reach 75 I will be pleased. But working with babies who die after only 2 hours on this earth? You deserve a humoungous hug. It is people like you that make the earth go round.
It seems that I will only have the Puregon injections for stimming. I have the sniffing (synarel) for down regging and then pessaries for progesterone. I think I am getting off lightly. Please forgive my ignorance...it is my first go at this,
Carolyn - keep up the baby dancing.. thats an order!!!!
Jackie - As far as I can work out, a short cycle fits within your normal cycle and a long one stretches it out a little. I dont know what the benifits of each are. Does anyone? I like the idea of a short as potentially if the next cycle faiils we can flick straight on to a FET.
My DH managed to get us into the corporate box for a rugby league game today. It was so nice. A limo picked us up and took us to the stdium and then we had all you could eat buffet and drinks to watch the game then our limo met us outside and whisked us home again. I have had way too many wines but figured that I could cut loose today...its only day 7. Baby dancing shall increase from here in...although after 5 years have lost the confidence that we will get a natural BFP.
Love to you all, and being a planner, have done up a list of email addresses.....very sad I am....
xrayem@hotmail.com
jacqueline.grotkowski@oomc.com
carolyn.bresh@yahoo.co.uk
em
TTC 5yrs - Unexplained Infertility
3xIUI's (April, June & Aug 06) - BFN,s
1st IVF - Oct 06 - Jasper & Finlay born 07/06/07
Natural preg - Addison Grace born 15/10/08
3xIUI's (April, June & Aug 06) - BFN,s
1st IVF - Oct 06 - Jasper & Finlay born 07/06/07
Natural preg - Addison Grace born 15/10/08
Laura - your story was so moving & so deeply sad. You must be a very brave & special lady to help such parents when facing such situations. You are so right that there are no guarantees at all. And when we think that we are having a tough time, there will always be others who are having so much more thrown at them.
Love the ticker!!
Hope that you continue to not get any side effects. That is terrific. Must say that I had some headaches and hot flushes when I was down regging and then felt so bloated when I got near the end of the stimmies.
It is so sweet that we are the only people who know along with your dh. Do you think that you might tell your Mom or not? You sound like you are in a great frame of mind for this cycle. I understand that calm is good!!!!
We want to hear more abot Vegas when you get a moment
Did you win any money?????
Em - You are a brave lady working with cancer patients. Even if they are older it is a really tough job. All I do is adding up!!!! The rugby sounds like great fun - especially the going & coming in a limo. No wonder you went for it...............
I had pessaries for my progestorone too. I asked about injections when I failed my cycle and said even if they hurt like hell that I would do them if it helped my chances with implantation. Hammersmith said that they had tried both and that they gave the same sort of results so they prefered to use pessaries to cause ladies less pain. However, he did say that most US clinics go with the intra-muscular injections. London clinics - some use sniffing and some use injections for down regging. Not sure what the difference is there. I injected burselin (spelling?). No idea at all whether it makes any real difference to the cycle??? I used puregon injected via the pen. Found it quite easy especially when I got brave and injected in my tummy.
I was on a longer cycle - with 18 days down regging & then down regging at the same time as stimmies for 12 days. Hammersmith use this longer cycle if FSH level is lower to try to avoid over stimulation. I understand that a short or flare cycle can be used as it suppresses our system less and so may be produce higher number of eggs. Really depends how they think that your body will respond to the stimmies and how much they need to boast or calm your body down. This may not be strictly correct - just based on what I have read on the web and on here. Also after cycle, my clinic said that I must wait 3 AFs before I could do Fresh or FET so that drugs got out of the system. Not sure whether that is Hammersmith policy or whether I could have cycled again sooner after a short/flare cycle??
Good idea on e-mail list. I just cut & pasted it so I have if the site goes down again. Thanks
Jackie - Hope that you are having a nice weekend. Did you do a long cycle first time around? Any news yet on when you can get started on your short cycle and what your dates will be?
Vero - hope that you are doing a mix of sleeping and celebrating now that your thesis is in
Dania - thinking of you as always
I must be better as spent all day yesterday sorting out our study as I said and then I completed my tax return as well so it is all ready to send off. And did not feel totally knackered by the end of the day. Getting back to my old self. I still have some soreness but hope that will subside over the next couple of weeks. He did say 6 weeks for full recovery so still guess that I have some room for it to hurt less still.
I don't know why but feel pretty confident that I ovulated either on Friday (tummy sore) or on Saturday (some twinges in my left hand side). That would correspond with a cycle of about 32 days which is normal for me. So we had done plenty of baby dancing from Monday through Saturday. Given my tummy is still sore, & my poor dh has to go to work don't think that we could have given it any better shot this month. Now I think that we shall just have to wait and see. In my mind, my second 2ww starts here................going to try to relax, have fun, not over do it and just see what happens........ 
Mike's sister and family have just got back from 2 weeks holiday in Italy so off to see them this afternoon. Best go and get ready..............
Enjoy the rest of your weekends.
Love to you all.
Carolyn xxx
Love the ticker!!
Hope that you continue to not get any side effects. That is terrific. Must say that I had some headaches and hot flushes when I was down regging and then felt so bloated when I got near the end of the stimmies. It is so sweet that we are the only people who know along with your dh. Do you think that you might tell your Mom or not? You sound like you are in a great frame of mind for this cycle. I understand that calm is good!!!!
We want to hear more abot Vegas when you get a moment
Did you win any money?????Em - You are a brave lady working with cancer patients. Even if they are older it is a really tough job. All I do is adding up!!!! The rugby sounds like great fun - especially the going & coming in a limo. No wonder you went for it...............
I had pessaries for my progestorone too. I asked about injections when I failed my cycle and said even if they hurt like hell that I would do them if it helped my chances with implantation. Hammersmith said that they had tried both and that they gave the same sort of results so they prefered to use pessaries to cause ladies less pain. However, he did say that most US clinics go with the intra-muscular injections. London clinics - some use sniffing and some use injections for down regging. Not sure what the difference is there. I injected burselin (spelling?). No idea at all whether it makes any real difference to the cycle??? I used puregon injected via the pen. Found it quite easy especially when I got brave and injected in my tummy.
I was on a longer cycle - with 18 days down regging & then down regging at the same time as stimmies for 12 days. Hammersmith use this longer cycle if FSH level is lower to try to avoid over stimulation. I understand that a short or flare cycle can be used as it suppresses our system less and so may be produce higher number of eggs. Really depends how they think that your body will respond to the stimmies and how much they need to boast or calm your body down. This may not be strictly correct - just based on what I have read on the web and on here. Also after cycle, my clinic said that I must wait 3 AFs before I could do Fresh or FET so that drugs got out of the system. Not sure whether that is Hammersmith policy or whether I could have cycled again sooner after a short/flare cycle??
Good idea on e-mail list. I just cut & pasted it so I have if the site goes down again. Thanks
Jackie - Hope that you are having a nice weekend. Did you do a long cycle first time around? Any news yet on when you can get started on your short cycle and what your dates will be?
Vero - hope that you are doing a mix of sleeping and celebrating now that your thesis is in
Dania - thinking of you as always
I must be better as spent all day yesterday sorting out our study as I said and then I completed my tax return as well so it is all ready to send off. And did not feel totally knackered by the end of the day. Getting back to my old self. I still have some soreness but hope that will subside over the next couple of weeks. He did say 6 weeks for full recovery so still guess that I have some room for it to hurt less still.
I don't know why but feel pretty confident that I ovulated either on Friday (tummy sore) or on Saturday (some twinges in my left hand side). That would correspond with a cycle of about 32 days which is normal for me. So we had done plenty of baby dancing from Monday through Saturday. Given my tummy is still sore, & my poor dh has to go to work
don't think that we could have given it any better shot this month. Now I think that we shall just have to wait and see. In my mind, my second 2ww starts here................going to try to relax, have fun, not over do it and just see what happens........ Mike's sister and family have just got back from 2 weeks holiday in Italy so off to see them this afternoon. Best go and get ready..............
Enjoy the rest of your weekends.
Love to you all.
Carolyn xxx
Me 42, DH 52 IVF #1, #2, #3 ICSI #4 - 10.05.2006, 12.12.2006, 10.03.2007, 27.07.2007 ICSI/DE/TESA #5, #6 PGD/IVIG #7 - 24.11.2007, 27.02.2008, 23.05.2008 - 7 BFNs
Surrogacy/FET #8 - 15.10.2008 - BFP
[img]http://lb1f.lilypie.com/2iB9p1.png[/img]
Surrogacy/FET #8 - 15.10.2008 - BFP
[img]http://lb1f.lilypie.com/2iB9p1.png[/img]
No I didn't win any money in Vegas, but I only spent a total of $5 gambling so not much chance of a big payoff. Instead I spent my money at the spa! I had a body scrub, massage, facial and then used the saunas. It was a lovely day. I also spent time lying around the pool, reading books and cruising the shops. We ate at some incredible restaurants and got to see many of the new casinos. Poor dh had to work a lot but I had lots of time to relax.
I don't know when I'm going to tell people that I've started a new cycle. My friends and family are very supportive, but they ask lots of detailed questions about how IVF works, what the drugs do, how the retrieval and transfer are done, want frequent updates on how everything is going, etc. Last time I loved talking about it and wanted answer questions and give everyone updates on how it was going. I feel differently this time.
I am trying very hard to stay calm and relaxed this cycle. Instead of spending my energy sharing the experience with my family and friends, I would rather keep the focus inward this time. I don't know if that makes any sense.
Em and Jackie, I think you are about to start again soon. Do you know when? Carolyn, I'm hoping you won't need to do another IVF cycle. I've got my fingers crossed during your "natural" 2ww.
xrayem@hotmail.com
jacqueline.grotkowski@oomc.com
carolyn.bresh@yahoo.co.uk
rvettor@yahoo.com
I don't know when I'm going to tell people that I've started a new cycle. My friends and family are very supportive, but they ask lots of detailed questions about how IVF works, what the drugs do, how the retrieval and transfer are done, want frequent updates on how everything is going, etc. Last time I loved talking about it and wanted answer questions and give everyone updates on how it was going. I feel differently this time.
I am trying very hard to stay calm and relaxed this cycle. Instead of spending my energy sharing the experience with my family and friends, I would rather keep the focus inward this time. I don't know if that makes any sense.
Em and Jackie, I think you are about to start again soon. Do you know when? Carolyn, I'm hoping you won't need to do another IVF cycle. I've got my fingers crossed during your "natural" 2ww.
xrayem@hotmail.com
jacqueline.grotkowski@oomc.com
carolyn.bresh@yahoo.co.uk
rvettor@yahoo.com
Me 38, DH 52
1st IVF 5/06- BFP m/c
2nd IVF 9/06- BFP identical twin boys!!
[img]http://b2.lilypie.com/midEm5.png[/img]
1st IVF 5/06- BFP m/c
2nd IVF 9/06- BFP identical twin boys!!
[img]http://b2.lilypie.com/midEm5.png[/img]
Hello ladies
I am with everyone Laura your story was amazing.. You must be such a strong lady to go through that and still keep so stong and positive. I have a good friend and she started ttc about a year after DH and I did. She took about 6 months and got pregnant. At first I was jelous and sad (for me) and than I started to be honest with myself and say that her being pregnant did not mean I could or could not get pregnant. We found out a couple of months ago that her baby has a defect and they are not sure of his chances.. I felt at first very guility for being jeolous and I just keep praying for her and her little one..I can not imagine having to go through that often as you have too. Again I just find you so strong and amazing...I am sorry you did not win in vegas but your visit sounds really nice.. The spa and the treatments I am so jelous.. I think the plan you have us just spending this time with you and DH and not sharing with everyone sounds like a great plan.. After my last IVF I had wished I had not told as many people as I did..
Have any of you ladies read the book "stork club" I just bought it and have heard rave reviewes.. It goes thorugh the whole IVF ttc journey..
Em
Your rugby evening sounds so nice.. You deserve a few too many glasses of wine.. I must admit I love red wine.Its my fav....From what I have heard the long vs the short cycle is really a doc preferance. For my first IVF we did the long cycle and even though I had all those pretty follies (14) I only ended up with the one egg. They think for me the long cycle and the suppression was too much for me so this time no b/c and I will be on a different suppression drug...I was on the shots for the first cycle of progesterone but I heard the same that Carolyn mentioned both work just as well and the presies are easier...I am so excited for you to get going with this cycle..
Carolyn
Yep I go in this Tuesday for b/w and than I take the meds to bring on AF and than I start my IVF (short cycle) straight away.. Assuming everything works I should be doing EC around September 22nd.. I will miss you all while I am gone.. I leave on Wednesday and I am not back until the next Tuesday...I am so excited and I would have to agree you must have ovulated with the testing coming the way it did.. I am so impressed how well you did with the baby dancing and I love the fact that you are just going to take it easy for now.. You deserve a little relaxation time. Just think you went from 40 hour days to the opp to recovering.. You are go go go....
Vero and Dania thinking of you lovely ladies..
love and hugs
Jackie
I am with everyone Laura your story was amazing.. You must be such a strong lady to go through that and still keep so stong and positive. I have a good friend and she started ttc about a year after DH and I did. She took about 6 months and got pregnant. At first I was jelous and sad (for me) and than I started to be honest with myself and say that her being pregnant did not mean I could or could not get pregnant. We found out a couple of months ago that her baby has a defect and they are not sure of his chances.. I felt at first very guility for being jeolous and I just keep praying for her and her little one..I can not imagine having to go through that often as you have too. Again I just find you so strong and amazing...I am sorry you did not win in vegas but your visit sounds really nice.. The spa and the treatments I am so jelous.. I think the plan you have us just spending this time with you and DH and not sharing with everyone sounds like a great plan.. After my last IVF I had wished I had not told as many people as I did..
Have any of you ladies read the book "stork club" I just bought it and have heard rave reviewes.. It goes thorugh the whole IVF ttc journey..
Em
Your rugby evening sounds so nice.. You deserve a few too many glasses of wine.. I must admit I love red wine.Its my fav....From what I have heard the long vs the short cycle is really a doc preferance. For my first IVF we did the long cycle and even though I had all those pretty follies (14) I only ended up with the one egg. They think for me the long cycle and the suppression was too much for me so this time no b/c and I will be on a different suppression drug...I was on the shots for the first cycle of progesterone but I heard the same that Carolyn mentioned both work just as well and the presies are easier...I am so excited for you to get going with this cycle..
Carolyn
Yep I go in this Tuesday for b/w and than I take the meds to bring on AF and than I start my IVF (short cycle) straight away.. Assuming everything works I should be doing EC around September 22nd.. I will miss you all while I am gone.. I leave on Wednesday and I am not back until the next Tuesday...I am so excited and I would have to agree you must have ovulated with the testing coming the way it did.. I am so impressed how well you did with the baby dancing and I love the fact that you are just going to take it easy for now.. You deserve a little relaxation time. Just think you went from 40 hour days to the opp to recovering.. You are go go go....
Vero and Dania thinking of you lovely ladies..
love and hugs
Jackie
me 34 DH 34 1st ivf 06/06 + lost at 5 weeks
Natural BFP 09/06 by the grace of GOD
Kennedy arrived 05/2007 and we are loving every moment...
Natural BFP 09/06 by the grace of GOD
Kennedy arrived 05/2007 and we are loving every moment...
HAPPY MONDAY LADIES
Hope that it is not too much of a shock to the system after the weekend!
I am lucky that I am taking it easy this morning but have a meeting this afternoon with some guys who run a small business to see whether there is enough going on business wise for me to join them. Should be interesting. Then having an early supper with one of my best friends from Reuters. 
Another great friend of mine is having her 1st scan today. She did 5ivfs - last time lucky with using donor eggs from her youngest sister. I am very anxious to hear her news.............as I typed it just made me think to turn on mobile. Text from her. Oh God. Not good news.
Bleeding over weekend and no heartbeat found on scan. Tests again Thursday but does not sound too good. I am sat here typing in tears. This is so dam unfair. I am crying for her, for me and for all of us. Why is this so bloody hard???????????? 
Just texted her back to say that I am here if she needs anything. I am gutted for her and for her sister who gave her such a wonderful gift. They froze 2 embies but they were lower quality than the ones she had back. She will go for a re-scan on Thursday so I will just cross everything for her until then and be here if she needs me.
Hard for me to write much else right now............
Jackie - I did buy The Stork Club on Amazon a couple of weeks ago based on seeing a post on here recommending it. It really is a beautiful book. I read it whilst I was recovering and read it in one sitting. It made me laugh and cry in just about equal measures. Good luck for your appointment tomorrow hun.
Em - you might be interested in the Stork Club if you have not read as it explains about an ivf cycle. Might be worth a read? It is by Imogen Edwards-Jones. I got it on Amazon for like £7.
Laura - sounds like you had a great time in Vegas. I LOVE spa treatments. Good on you for pampering yourself. Shame that your dh had to work hard but sure that it was great that you went with him. What does he do?
I am just going to go and pray for my dear friend.
Love to you all.
Carolyn
Hope that it is not too much of a shock to the system after the weekend!
I am lucky that I am taking it easy this morning but have a meeting this afternoon with some guys who run a small business to see whether there is enough going on business wise for me to join them. Should be interesting. Then having an early supper with one of my best friends from Reuters.
Another great friend of mine is having her 1st scan today. She did 5ivfs - last time lucky with using donor eggs from her youngest sister. I am very anxious to hear her news.............as I typed it just made me think to turn on mobile. Text from her. Oh God. Not good news.
Bleeding over weekend and no heartbeat found on scan. Tests again Thursday but does not sound too good. I am sat here typing in tears. This is so dam unfair. I am crying for her, for me and for all of us. Why is this so bloody hard???????????? Just texted her back to say that I am here if she needs anything. I am gutted for her and for her sister who gave her such a wonderful gift. They froze 2 embies but they were lower quality than the ones she had back. She will go for a re-scan on Thursday so I will just cross everything for her until then and be here if she needs me.Hard for me to write much else right now............
Jackie - I did buy The Stork Club on Amazon a couple of weeks ago based on seeing a post on here recommending it. It really is a beautiful book. I read it whilst I was recovering and read it in one sitting. It made me laugh and cry in just about equal measures. Good luck for your appointment tomorrow hun.
Em - you might be interested in the Stork Club if you have not read as it explains about an ivf cycle. Might be worth a read? It is by Imogen Edwards-Jones. I got it on Amazon for like £7.
Laura - sounds like you had a great time in Vegas. I LOVE spa treatments. Good on you for pampering yourself. Shame that your dh had to work hard but sure that it was great that you went with him. What does he do?
I am just going to go and pray for my dear friend.
Love to you all.
Carolyn
Me 42, DH 52 IVF #1, #2, #3 ICSI #4 - 10.05.2006, 12.12.2006, 10.03.2007, 27.07.2007 ICSI/DE/TESA #5, #6 PGD/IVIG #7 - 24.11.2007, 27.02.2008, 23.05.2008 - 7 BFNs
Surrogacy/FET #8 - 15.10.2008 - BFP
[img]http://lb1f.lilypie.com/2iB9p1.png[/img]
Surrogacy/FET #8 - 15.10.2008 - BFP
[img]http://lb1f.lilypie.com/2iB9p1.png[/img]
Carolyn
I am so sorry for your friend. I thought 5 weeks was really early to see the heartbeat. I am glad they are doing more test as I have read loads of stories where it ends up being ok. I will being saying prayers for her and her family.
I am off today so just vegging around the house. I have been so lazy lately...
love and hugs to all
Jackie
I am so sorry for your friend. I thought 5 weeks was really early to see the heartbeat. I am glad they are doing more test as I have read loads of stories where it ends up being ok. I will being saying prayers for her and her family.
I am off today so just vegging around the house. I have been so lazy lately...
love and hugs to all
Jackie
me 34 DH 34 1st ivf 06/06 + lost at 5 weeks
Natural BFP 09/06 by the grace of GOD
Kennedy arrived 05/2007 and we are loving every moment...
Natural BFP 09/06 by the grace of GOD
Kennedy arrived 05/2007 and we are loving every moment...
Dear ladies,
Laura,
I was deeply touched when reading about your experience on the high risk ob unit. You are just so right about the fact that there are no guarantees in life. We can hope, and pray, but we can never know what will happen and why it happens. And we can be very thankful about every day that we and our loved ones are healthy and safe.
It's wonderful that there are ladies like you and Em who have the courage to be there and help others in their biggest moments of grief.
You sound very calm and composed about this IVF cycle, and I am sure that this is the best way to go bout is. To focus on inside. I was planning the same approach for my second attempt as well...not telling anybody and just keeping my hopes, fears and feelings within.
Hopefully the side effects stay away!
Em,
sounds like you and DH are having a good time! And you know, even though it is hard to still believe in natural conceiving success - isn't it great that we all still have fun trying!? So many couples fail in going through all this together
Cheering you on another natural try cycle!!!
Carolyn,
When I think about you having started the next 2ww I get all excited. It's just great that you've started trying in this first month after the surgery. I've often heard that the chances are so much improved right after the op... hopefully you can manage to think of other things.
I am very sorry for your friend. This is all just dreadfully unfair.
Jackie,
this feeling of jealousy - or maybe rather fear that it minimizes my own chances - when others get pregnant is such an irrational thing. I have it too, and I just yesterday heard of an old childhood friend who found out that she's pregnant after not even trying. And it took me the whole day to get over my stupid feelings and to tell her my heartfelt congratulations.
We will miss you when you leave on Wednesday. But it sure is good that you will be kept busy!
Dania,
I hope all is well.
Not much news from me. I am sleeping and seeing friends and feeling bored. It's just weird after all this time I spent glued to my desk to not have any working pressure any more. But I guess it's a normal reaction. I'll contact the accu place first thing after the holiday tomorrow
Many hugs from me,
Vero
xrayem@hotmail.com
jacqueline.grotkowski@oomc.com
carolyn.bresh@yahoo.co.uk
rvettor@yahoo.com
veronika_engert@yahoo.de
Laura,
I was deeply touched when reading about your experience on the high risk ob unit. You are just so right about the fact that there are no guarantees in life. We can hope, and pray, but we can never know what will happen and why it happens. And we can be very thankful about every day that we and our loved ones are healthy and safe.
It's wonderful that there are ladies like you and Em who have the courage to be there and help others in their biggest moments of grief.
You sound very calm and composed about this IVF cycle, and I am sure that this is the best way to go bout is. To focus on inside. I was planning the same approach for my second attempt as well...not telling anybody and just keeping my hopes, fears and feelings within.
Hopefully the side effects stay away!
Em,
sounds like you and DH are having a good time! And you know, even though it is hard to still believe in natural conceiving success - isn't it great that we all still have fun trying!? So many couples fail in going through all this together
Cheering you on another natural try cycle!!!Carolyn,
When I think about you having started the next 2ww I get all excited. It's just great that you've started trying in this first month after the surgery. I've often heard that the chances are so much improved right after the op... hopefully you can manage to think of other things.
I am very sorry for your friend. This is all just dreadfully unfair.
Jackie,
this feeling of jealousy - or maybe rather fear that it minimizes my own chances - when others get pregnant is such an irrational thing. I have it too, and I just yesterday heard of an old childhood friend who found out that she's pregnant after not even trying. And it took me the whole day to get over my stupid feelings and to tell her my heartfelt congratulations.
We will miss you when you leave on Wednesday. But it sure is good that you will be kept busy!
Dania,
I hope all is well.
Not much news from me. I am sleeping and seeing friends and feeling bored. It's just weird after all this time I spent glued to my desk to not have any working pressure any more. But I guess it's a normal reaction. I'll contact the accu place first thing after the holiday tomorrow
Many hugs from me,
Vero
xrayem@hotmail.com
jacqueline.grotkowski@oomc.com
carolyn.bresh@yahoo.co.uk
rvettor@yahoo.com
veronika_engert@yahoo.de
me: 31, DH: 43
TTC: 2.5 years
unexplained infertility
IVF#1 April/May 2006: BFN
endo-surgery July 2006, no endo after all
TTC: 2.5 years
unexplained infertility
IVF#1 April/May 2006: BFN
endo-surgery July 2006, no endo after all
Hello ladies
I thought I would pop in a say Happy Tuesday. Nothing new for me. I had my b/w done this morning so I can get my pills to start the AF.. I hope you are all good.. I leave tomorrow for a wonderful week off work.. Yeah..
love and hugs
Jackie
I thought I would pop in a say Happy Tuesday. Nothing new for me. I had my b/w done this morning so I can get my pills to start the AF.. I hope you are all good.. I leave tomorrow for a wonderful week off work.. Yeah..
love and hugs
Jackie
me 34 DH 34 1st ivf 06/06 + lost at 5 weeks
Natural BFP 09/06 by the grace of GOD
Kennedy arrived 05/2007 and we are loving every moment...
Natural BFP 09/06 by the grace of GOD
Kennedy arrived 05/2007 and we are loving every moment...
Good afternoon...
I have something amazing to tell you all.. The docs just called and I am pregnant..She said she is not sure when it actually happened as I have not had a AF since the m/c she said that the # is 561 I think that is pretty good.. I am in total shock and I just cant belive this is actually happening.. You ladies told me it was ok to try on our own and we did.. I still dont think it has hit me yet.. I am going to acc tonight so I will have to tell him congratulations.. LADIES I could not have gotten through any of this without you and I need you now more than ever.. I hope to talk to you all soon before I leave or I will post more when I get back Next Tuesday..
big huge huge hugs
from your friend in shock
Jackie
I have something amazing to tell you all.. The docs just called and I am pregnant..She said she is not sure when it actually happened as I have not had a AF since the m/c she said that the # is 561 I think that is pretty good.. I am in total shock and I just cant belive this is actually happening.. You ladies told me it was ok to try on our own and we did.. I still dont think it has hit me yet.. I am going to acc tonight so I will have to tell him congratulations.. LADIES I could not have gotten through any of this without you and I need you now more than ever.. I hope to talk to you all soon before I leave or I will post more when I get back Next Tuesday..
big huge huge hugs
from your friend in shock
Jackie
me 34 DH 34 1st ivf 06/06 + lost at 5 weeks
Natural BFP 09/06 by the grace of GOD
Kennedy arrived 05/2007 and we are loving every moment...
Natural BFP 09/06 by the grace of GOD
Kennedy arrived 05/2007 and we are loving every moment...
JACKIE JACKIE JACKIE
I just logged back on to wish you well before you go away. Dh waiting for me dowstairs and then this...............
OMG - OMG - OMG
That is utterly amazing. I have read that this happens when all the drugs are still in your system. That sometimes it can be just the best time.......
It is another miracle just like Dania.
I am SO HAPPY for you & your dh. You so deserve this.
Do you have any idea of how far on you are??
Let us know more. Will pop down to see dh but not log out until later, just in case you have more news.
I am over the moon for you sweetie!!!!
Carolyn xxxxx
I just logged back on to wish you well before you go away. Dh waiting for me dowstairs and then this...............
OMG - OMG - OMG
That is utterly amazing. I have read that this happens when all the drugs are still in your system. That sometimes it can be just the best time.......
It is another miracle just like Dania.
I am SO HAPPY for you & your dh. You so deserve this.
Do you have any idea of how far on you are??
Let us know more. Will pop down to see dh but not log out until later, just in case you have more news.
I am over the moon for you sweetie!!!!
Carolyn xxxxx
Me 42, DH 52 IVF #1, #2, #3 ICSI #4 - 10.05.2006, 12.12.2006, 10.03.2007, 27.07.2007 ICSI/DE/TESA #5, #6 PGD/IVIG #7 - 24.11.2007, 27.02.2008, 23.05.2008 - 7 BFNs
Surrogacy/FET #8 - 15.10.2008 - BFP
[img]http://lb1f.lilypie.com/2iB9p1.png[/img]
Surrogacy/FET #8 - 15.10.2008 - BFP
[img]http://lb1f.lilypie.com/2iB9p1.png[/img]
Hello ladies
I dont think they have any idea of how along I am.. They seem to be just as shocked as I am. The one nurse just lauged and said I gues we were wrong.. I feel like I am in a dream world. I am scared but I have decided to just be as happy as I can be right now..
I am so lucky for you all..
Love and huge hugs
Jackie
I dont think they have any idea of how along I am.. They seem to be just as shocked as I am. The one nurse just lauged and said I gues we were wrong.. I feel like I am in a dream world. I am scared but I have decided to just be as happy as I can be right now..
I am so lucky for you all..
Love and huge hugs
Jackie
me 34 DH 34 1st ivf 06/06 + lost at 5 weeks
Natural BFP 09/06 by the grace of GOD
Kennedy arrived 05/2007 and we are loving every moment...
Natural BFP 09/06 by the grace of GOD
Kennedy arrived 05/2007 and we are loving every moment...
Jackie
Just try to relax (know how hard that is) and have a wonderful week away with your dh. Think that it is the wedding of your dh's brother (???) is in Canada?? Have a terrific time together. You can relax and really enjoy together.
We will be thinking of you whilst you are away and hoping that everything will be going well for you & the little beanie. We shall be looking out for you checking in next week as soon as you are back.
Take really good care. May be sometimes there are real miracles in life.
Love Carolyn xxxx
Just try to relax (know how hard that is) and have a wonderful week away with your dh. Think that it is the wedding of your dh's brother (???) is in Canada?? Have a terrific time together. You can relax and really enjoy together.
We will be thinking of you whilst you are away and hoping that everything will be going well for you & the little beanie. We shall be looking out for you checking in next week as soon as you are back.
Take really good care. May be sometimes there are real miracles in life.
Love Carolyn xxxx
Me 42, DH 52 IVF #1, #2, #3 ICSI #4 - 10.05.2006, 12.12.2006, 10.03.2007, 27.07.2007 ICSI/DE/TESA #5, #6 PGD/IVIG #7 - 24.11.2007, 27.02.2008, 23.05.2008 - 7 BFNs
Surrogacy/FET #8 - 15.10.2008 - BFP
[img]http://lb1f.lilypie.com/2iB9p1.png[/img]
Surrogacy/FET #8 - 15.10.2008 - BFP
[img]http://lb1f.lilypie.com/2iB9p1.png[/img]
I will be checking in (if I can while I am gone) but if I cant post till I get back I will be hoping and thinking and praying for you all..
Love and hugs
a girl could not ask for a better group of friends
Love
Jackie
Love and hugs
a girl could not ask for a better group of friends
Love
Jackie
me 34 DH 34 1st ivf 06/06 + lost at 5 weeks
Natural BFP 09/06 by the grace of GOD
Kennedy arrived 05/2007 and we are loving every moment...
Natural BFP 09/06 by the grace of GOD
Kennedy arrived 05/2007 and we are loving every moment...