September Hope's and Dream's

[Welshgirl38]

Ems

Yeah i do have the sore boobs too - but i had those for a few day b4 i even had EC. Im one of those lucky ladies who gets the sore boobs b4 AF for about 2 weeks b4 she shows up! so im not not taking much notice of that symptom - my AF is actually due on friday (28days) but usually im more a 30-35 day kinda girl) so i suppose u could say my AF is due on the 15th or maybe 8th???? Any time soon the way these pains are going .....

I hope she doesnt show - the ***** i hate her lol!

Keep Smiling,

Becky Xxx

[Ems1971]

Thanks hun.
You're AF won't be due Fri as you're cycle has altered for the IVF so I wouldn't worry about that. Clinic told me only way AF will show is if I get a BFN or if I stop the Progesterone (i.e. after getting a BFN). Does that make sense?
xxx

[Welshgirl38]

Ems,

The Progesterone - is that the psseries ur taking, one in the morning and one in the night? (messey ole things lol)

I was told that even if i got spotting that i was to carry on taking these untill they run out.

Im cracking up here, but i have been really positive today - i suppose we all get our good days and our bad

Xxxx

[nimble]

Hi girls,

Ems - I'm sending loads of hugs downline for you - it must so hard the 2ww.... keep chanting it will be BFP, it will be a BFP, it will be a BFP.......
and that goes to the rest of you on your 2ww as well..

Aunty - you were so right - now my follies are jigging about !!

Had another scan today and all the TLC has started to work - still only have 5 and doesn't seem to be anymore growing so a little disappointed that there isn't anymore. how many eggs I'm i likely to get??
Got 4 on my left side and the largest is now at 12 and one on my right which is at 10. Because they are so slow, my EC has been pushed back to Wednesday next week, which is a shame looking forward to a week off work

Back again for another scan on Friday!

My DH bless sent me a text today wishing me luck with my scan and he called them furry's! Bless - he hasn't quite got the hang of the terms! sweet though.

Vickie - take care and have a great time away and c u monday.

Ems/Becky - no more talk of AF arriving and BPN - just won't hear of it...

lots of love to all
Jackie

[AuntyPebbles]

Macca Sadley BFN
Jackie Beta 561... Our little Miracle A Natural BFP


JackieG........8th September Test Date.. Little ones snuggling in
Mia........8th September Test Date.. 2 Little ones snuggling in
Vickie ... 14th September Test Date.. 2 Little ones snuggling in
Becky........15th September Test Date.. 2 Little ones snuggling in
Emma ... 15th September Test Date ..2 Little ones Snuggling in
Paula ... 18th September Test Date ..2 Little ones Snuggling in


Zirly ... 18th September Test Date ..12 Embies in Waiting (ET 7th)(PDG results 6th)
Karen ... 2nd September ..4 Beautiful Eggs
Angela ....... September 26 follies so far (4th Scan)
Holly.........September ..Doing IUI (4th Start Gonal )
Souris ....... September .......Stimming (11th pos EC )
Nimble ....... September ...5 follies so far Stimming(8th scan) (EC pos 13th)
Haylie ....... September ........Down Regging (8th Scan ..start Menopur)
IslaCraig .......September ........Down Regging (13th Blood test pos start Gonal F)
Kvgsmom.........September ..Nasal spray FET 18th
Lauralou ...... 1st September ................Lupron
Suzette ..... September .......Nasal Spray
Jemima.........September .....................BC
Michelle ..... September .......Nasal Spray
Emma27 .......September.............Down Regging
Eileen ....... September .............Down Regging
Jeck .........11th september ............Start Down Regging
Aunty .........7th September ..... ..Cycle Meeting
Saxony............September.................................... FET
Mary .......10th? September .............Start Down Reg
Lisa(bella) .........??th September ........... Possible Start
Casy .........29th September ........... Possible Start
AMD............ ........................AF arrived ..FET October
Niffie .........Start date tbp
Bobbi..........Start date tbp
KF06.........15th August cycle cancelled due to cyst moved to October

[AuntyPebbles]

Aww Nimble your hubby is sweet isnt he did you laugh....bless him..
well it sounds like your going to get 5 good embies there at least with them growing slower there should be good eggs in there and lets face it all we need is one strong little one to make our dream happen...praying hard for you.

Paula thats fantastic hop aboard the nutty TWW train...lets hope its a nice smooth ride for you prayers for your little ones.

love Debz

[hopeful-in-LV]

Mortisha, Congrats on your ET! I talk to my embies too. My clinic gave us a photo of the 2 little ones and I have put them in a little frame on my bedside table. DH even gave them nicknames. When we talk to them we call them by name. My Mom who is Budhist, had sugested I start talking to them when all my embies we're first fertilized. She believes there is the possiblity they might already have little spirits at that time. I look at their photo everyday, it helps me to visulaize them in my womb, I picture them alive and well and getting comfortable. I tell them that I love them and I'm here to nurture and support them as they grow big and strong. I even still talk to my frozen embies, now I know people think I'm way crazier than you LOL.

Becky, Emma, Vickie, Funny it seems like we all feel AF symptoms and think uh oh here she comes. I know PG symptoms can feel like AF symptoms too. It can be really confusing. Plus with the hormones, it's like who knows what is causing what feeling. It's crazy all right, with the emotional ups and downs too. Oh well, all we can do is go with the flow, keep a strong PMA and take care of ourselves. I have good feeling for all of us, I think we are going to get our BFPs!!
Are you guys sensitive to smells at all? I went to the Library and Costco yesterday and as soon as I walked in both places, I was overcome with very STRONG, distinct smells! Very overberring to me. DH who is normally sensitive smell, could smell the Library but did not seem too bothered and he didn't really notice much at the Costco. It was really weird. DH told me it's because I'm pregnant. Bless him, I think I get 75% of my PMA from him.

Nimble, hang in there! the follies still have time to grow. Good thing your RE is wise enough to push back EC to make sure they have all the time they need. All you need is to get one good one, you know. I know you will!!

PMA everybody! Have a wonderful day!!

[souris]

Hello girls,

I cant remember who was interested:
My doc asked for a doppler, it is to check that the uterus blood flow is good ( she used other terms, but basically it is what it means). So this to check that everyting is ok to have the best chances of implantation. Other wise they will give me aspirin (as some clinics do. And i also did on my first attempt, 3 beautiful embies put back but no pregnancies).

My EC will be most probably on Monday.

Ok girls, I dont usually pity myself or complain. This post gonna get boring so some of you might want to stop reading now!
But i just need to get stuff out of my chest before it explode.

Dh and I are going through a very difficult time. He lost his job and we dont know what gonna happen next, obviously we are nervous because of the IVF and his operation, and on the top of that, one of his daughter is making everyone's life very difficult not to say hell. I have been together with Dh for 4 &1/2 year, and we have had the same problems with his daughter from the beginning. I cant go into details because i would be there all night! But at the moment i really dont feel that it will ever get better. I know that I might be more sensitive because of the hormones, but she did not choose the right time to start on us again. I have been waiting for this cycle 7 months, and i wanted to be relax and now I cant breathe because I am so stressed. it feels like someone is walking on my chest. On the top of that, Dh drank too much tonight and started on me. I cant take it no more and want to pack up my things and leave. And then I think about the IVF, i have been through all of it to give up now?? And what if I leave now, abandonn the cycle and things get better later? I really dont know anymore. I hope things will be clearer in the morning.

Thanks for reading, I just needed to write things down. I feel better already, or at least more tired.
Sorry for this selfish post.

I love you all, couldnt do without you
souris
xxx

[zirly]

YOU WILL NOT BELEIVE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HOPE YOU ARE SITTING DOWN...




The doctor from my clinic called and told me that the results of the pgd biopsy will not be in til tomorrow. Why? Because when the Pgd clinic recieved the package of my cell slides...the package was EMPTY!!! YES, EMPTY!!!!!

Therefore...when the pgd people called to tell my clinic this...they had to bother all my embies...and re-biopsy every one of them!!!! The embriologist is on her way as we speak flying the new slides to San Fran to deliver them to the pgd and I will get results tomorrow before my transfer.

Here are the problems (aside from the obvious)
1. This is the second biopsy my poor embies have had in two days. There is no data out there on such porotocal and who knows how this will affect my embies.

2. If the embies make it til tomorrow...how confident can I feel putting them back in me when they have been sooo tampered with? I am worried that if they turn into babies...that one day down the road if something genetic were to happen, I will blame this proceedure.

3. If stress really does affect outcome...then I'm toast.

HOW IN THE WORLD CAN THIS CLINIC BE SO INCOMPETENT?

What would you do? Would you put them back in you (if they make it til tomorrow)?

As a side note...I demanded my money back on this cycle and insisted I will not pay another cent for the remaining amount, not to mention...if this does not work...I told them my next cycle will be at their cost! They agreed and will be sending me this in writing.

WHAT A NIGHTMARE

zirly

[AuntyPebbles]

OMG zirly you must have been frantic when they told you this.... thats outragous i would post in the main forum for ghost ask what he thinks hes your best bet for how this could affect your little ones i think you need to know i would be thinking the same thing as you are if they are only 4 cell embies they have now had to take 2 of those cells ....

good for you demanding your money back ...im behind you on that 100%...

still praying fro you...Love Debz

[jeck]

Zirly-- Oh my goodness, I can't believe it!! I hope it all turns out alright! Way to stand up for your self!!!

Souris-- so sorry your having a bad day!! Hope it gets better!

Mortisha--Woohoo!! So glad you got your embies back on board!!

Aunty--Good luck with your appt tomorrow!!

I have been down and out the past 2 days. I went for acupuncture yesterday, my 1st appt and she said that I had a cold uterus and I should wait for 2 months to get pregnant... I told her I was scheduled for IVF next month and she was like can you put it off?!?!? She also wanted me to take a bunch of herbs and stuff and I looked them all up and none of them are recommended during pregnancy.... I live in a small town and there is not any choices for acupuncture, this lady comes from out of town 2 times a week. I don't think I am going back and I am not taking the herbs. If it is in Gods plan for me to have a baby then I will!!! Also, the main reason I did this is for stress relief and it did nothing but make me more stressful!! Sorry to vent... Does anyone heard of a cold uterus??

Hope all is well!!

[31single]

Zirly, this is awful! I'm so sorry ...

Two things

1. I'm pretty sure that although a second biopsy could damage the embryos and their survival, the babies themselves will be fine. They're just removing cells, and the cells that remain will have the same dna structure they did before the second biopsy. Genetic issues don't seem possible as a result from a second biopsy. Also, remember, the embryos have been growing since the last biopsy, so there are more cells now ...

2. I'd urge you not to demand anything yet. Any "agreement" you make with the clinic now could affect what happens later. I sincerely sincerely wish you still walk away with a happy beautiful and healthy pregnancy. But if you don't you may want additional compensation for your suffering. I'm not saying this in a slimy way -- what you're going through is so horrible, and it's their fault. If you don't get pregnant this time (and you still can!) they SHOULD pay for you to take a little vacation and acupuncture or something to recover and get your body and mind ready for another go, in addition to the cost of cycles. However, if you make a demand now and they agree now, it could ruin your chances of a more appropriate recovery later (it could seem like you settled).

Again, my biggest concern is for you, and the best outcome is healthy baby or two. That's what you want, and nothing else matters. And I know that's what's on your mind. But you should also get a fair settlement if it comes to that.

[jackoa21]

Hello ladies
Aunty has been keeping me updated but I had to pop in..

Jeck I have heard of a cold uterus but I have also heard lots about acc people suggesting herbs and you are right lots of them should not be used with IVF.. Here is my suggestion go get a couple of massages (for the stress relif) and keep a heating pad (sprite bottle right Jemma ) on your belly. I have heard warmth is a good thing.

Souris honey I wanted to pop in to say that I am so sorry you are going through all this honey. I know how much you have put aside to get to this point. I will be saying all my prayers that you can just sit and have a little peace.. We are here for you honey and I am glad you can vent to us..

Zirly
I am so sorry about all of this and I can not give you answers but I can tell you that we are all praying for your sweet embies...

Aunty
I want to wish you loads and loads of luck for tomorrow. I know your lovely brilliant doc will have a great plan to get you preggers very soon...

Love and hugs
Jackie

[jeck]

Jackie--Thanks so much for the suggestion!!! I was so worked up I didn't think about that!!! I will make appointment tomorrow to get a massage every week until I start stims... Thanks!!! Also, I am so glad you mentioned the heating pad, I had thought of that but wondered if it was little crazy!!! So 2 crazies have to make a sane right???

[AuntyPebbles]

Macca Sadley BFN
Jackie Beta 561... Our little Miracle A Natural BFP


JackieG........8th September Test Date.. Little ones snuggling in
Mia........8th September Test Date.. 2 Little ones snuggling in
Vickie ... 14th September Test Date.. 2 Little ones snuggling in
Becky........15th September Test Date.. 2 Little ones snuggling in
Emma ... 15th September Test Date ..2 Little ones Snuggling in
Paula ... 18th September Test Date ..2 Little ones Snuggling in


Zirly ... 18th September Test Date ..12 Embies in Waiting (ET 7th)(PDG results 7th )
Karen ... 2nd September ..4 Beautiful Eggs
Angela ....... September 26 follies so far (4th Scan)
Holly.........September ..Doing IUI (4th Start Gonal )
Souris ....... September .......Stimming (11th pos EC )
Nimble ....... September ...5 follies so far Stimming(8th scan) (EC pos 13th)
Haylie ....... September ........Down Regging (8th Scan ..start Menopur)
IslaCraig .......September ........Down Regging (13th Blood test pos start Gonal F)
Kvgsmom.........September ..Nasal spray FET 18th
Lauralou ...... 1st September ................Lupron
Suzette ..... September .......Nasal Spray
Jemima.........September .....................BC
Michelle ..... September .......Nasal Spray
Emma27 .......September.............Down Regging
Eileen ....... September .............Down Regging
Jeck .........11th september ............Start Down Regging
Aunty .........7th September ..... ..Cycle Meeting
Saxony............September.................................... FET
Mary .......10th? September .............Start Down Reg
Lisa(bella) .........??th September ........... Possible Start
Casy .........29th September ........... Possible Start
AMD............ ........................AF arrived ..FET October
Niffie .........Start date tbp
Bobbi..........Start date tbp
KF06.........15th August cycle cancelled due to cyst moved to October