April/May Buddies??

[LauraLou]

Jackie,

I am so thrilled for you!!!! That is incredible news. You must be in a state of shock. Like I said, miracles do happen.

Let us know as soon as you get any more info on how far along you are, etc.

I am so so happy for you and your dh!

[jackoa21]

HI ladies
Hey great news I can still check messages from here You cant get rid of me just yet

Carolyn
How are you feeling honey? I am sure you have been running around and doing way too much (but I would bet you probably think not enough )

Vero
Soooooo have you found your acc person yet I know just me being pushy

Laura
Your cycle is staring you are on the lupron right? When is your first scan?

Dania
THinking of you and your bump

So the doc called and they want to see me for a scan on Tuesday to make sure everything looks good and is where it should be.. I am keeping postive.. We told the inlaws today. I know a lot of people woudl not but I am going to stay positive and I feel its going to be ok.. I just need to say that 100 times a day..

Love to all and huge hugs
Jackie

[veronika]

Hello dear ladies,

Jackie,
that's great that you are still "here" with us. I am looking forward to your scan on Tuesday I think I would have also shared THOSE news. It is just too incredible and wonderful to have to keep to oneself. Everything is going to be just fine.
I hope you are having lots of fun at the wedding (it is a wedding, no?)!

Carolyn,
how is the 2ww going? I hope xour keeping busy, but as Jacie already say - no real need to worry about you not being busy...

Em,
I've been wanting to ask you: have you ever thought about doing accupuncture in combination with your IVF? I was thinking about doing this in my next cycle, which has now been delayed. I guess they don't work with accu in every clinic, I was just being curious...

Laura and Dania
I hope you lovely ladies are having a good week!

I scheduled my first accu appointment today. It will be on Friday. I think she will just be talking to me and trying to find out what's "wrong". But I am so happy to finally be starting So Friday it is.

Sending you many hugs, Good night and good morning,

Vero

[Xrayem]

Hi guys,

I'm so sorry I have been quiet but our computer is very sick and keeps crashing. We are buying a new one this weekend and getting broadband internet so soon I'll be back full time!

Jackie!!!!!! That is absolutely amazing news! Didn't we all tease you that you could be preggers when AF hadn't shown???? I can't beleive that we have had 2 natural preg's on this thread!!!! JEEPERS! Watch out Carolyn and Veronika with their new tubes.....mabye you will be the lucky next two!

Vero - I have been thinking about the acu. There are a lot of cranks over here who call themselves "natural healers" who have no formal training and can practise whatever they want. Being in the health game, I am sceptical of these people. I have rung a doctor who works near me who does acu but he wasn't happy doing acu for infertility. He doesn't beleive it helps. It has sort of put me off a little. I think I will see how my first cycle goes and perhaps try next time if we have no luck.

Well, Comp is slowing down again so a crash is immenent...hugs to you all.

Em

[CarolynB]

Ladies

Think that I am still in shock after Jackie's amazing news.

Jackie - you are so right. Running around. Wondering why I can't do more. Then collapsing in the evening. That just about sums it up. Great that you can still post from Canada. Cool. Sneaked a look on some of the other threads and the response to your news has been really awesome. You must be so very happy. You are going to have such a great weekend with your news and the wedding to enjoy. Lap it up girl!!!!

Vero - awesome - acu on Friday. The 1st session that I had, we spent a lot of time talking about my first IVF and also about my general AF cycles. He did do some 'needlework' but right near the end. They don't hurt at all and beats injecting yourself My next session is a week today. He wants to see me on Day 31/32 just before AF and Day 18 just pre-ovulation for the next 2/3 months. Interested to see what you are recommended to do??? We can compare notes again

Em - great to hear from you. You 'sound' up and on good form. Broadband is so fast - it is amazing. Hope that you are right about the continuation of naturals for this thread................. There seem like 2 schools of thought on the acu/ivf debate. Some consultants really think that it makes a difference and others think that it makes no difference at all Guess it will be a few years before there is any robust data to support whether it helps or not. There are so many variables that effect whether it works or not that it seems so hard to pin point why it works sometimes and not other times. My guess is the more they find out, the better the success rates will become over time....just not soon enough for all of us but for ladies who have to face this after us.

Laura and Dania - hope all is well with both of you lovelies

Was with guys yesterday talking about a small business which I might join. The good news is that the lead guy has been a friend for more than 20 years. He knows that we are ttc and that I need to be quite flexible re-hours/workload etc. It might work out. I was so involved that I did not make it on here at all.

Also been trying to do the best I can to support my friend since her scan on Monday. She ended up in hospital on Monday evening as she was suffering such bad pain. They kept her in overnight and sent her home late Tuesday. She is pretty sure that she m/c but has to go back again today for a 'final' scan. This is her 4th or 5th cycle. She has been a poor responder and this is with her sisters eggs. I so wish that there was more that I could do to help her. We talked for a long time yesterday but she did not feel up to seeing people which I totally understand. I am going to take her out for lunch next Wednesday.

Thank you for asking how my 2ww is going. I feel totally surreal. I cannot possibly believe that this could have worked. No drugs. No doctors prodding & probing me. No injections. I feel great whereas for the 1st week of my ivf 2ww I felt drugged up and bloated. This feels way way too normal for it to possibly have worked. I feel great. No booze for 40 days. 1 single cup of tea after my op in the last 4 months. No coffee for 4 months. Plus even though you all think that I am running around, I am running around so much less than I have been when I was working 24/7. Tummy getting less sore my the day. Hard to bend down & still not driven as think that I'll wait a few more days as seatbelt across me still hurts.

Guess that next week will be harder as knicker checking will obviously commence in earnest. However, have Robbie Williams concert to look forward to next Friday to take my mind of things. That is Day 32 for me so sods law says that AF will descend when I am in the middle of 250,000 screaming crowd Have let my ticker count down to Day 34 so I can't get excited before I should.................

Take good care. Thinking of you all.

Lots of Love
Carolyn xxx

[CarolynB]

Dear Ladies

Quiet around here right now...............sorry this is just a 'me' post.

I am scared to even write this down as think that may be it could just be in my head...............probably is. But must confess to feeling pretty tired over the last few days. Dh says that I always go to sleep pretty quickly but he says the night before last that I was snoring the minute my head hit the pillow. Even he was surprised & commented although did not of course link to anything else........... Breasts certainly a little bigger and nipples feel really sore (especially in the morning). I have also felt cramping in both sides. I thought that it was AF but really early for me as on my shortest cycle would not expect AF for another week. Guess it could be AF if my cycle is messed up post-cycle??? Or could still be the op but it seemed like I was getting better and now a bit sorer again.

I am trying to relax and just enjoy myself. Cannot say anything to DH as he will think that I am losing my marbles. Also don't want to get excited, then only to face more disappointment.

I just knew that I could write this here and you will know what I mean. One moment I think that it is all in my head, the next moment it feels quite strange. I really want to wait until next Friday (at the earliest) before I succumb to a hpt if AF has not arrived by then.........

Hope that you are all doing really well. Jackie - enjoy the wedding. Have a blast.

Hope everyone else has lovely weekends.
Love to you all.
Carolyn xxx

[veronika]

Hello dear ladies,

Carolyn,
it would be soo wonderful if this was it. I whish I could take a quick trip to London and we could go on a little shopping tour and sit and have lunch together...talking and HOPING together I am really excited for you, but will now stop talking about it and just keep my fingers and everything crossed until next friday.

At five this evening I'll have my first accu session. I am so happy to finally get started. It was good I didn't do it before, it wouldn't have helped much given the crazy state I was in. But if you girls hadn't pushed me to finally get going it would have taken me much longer. THANK YOU.

Hoping you are all having a good friday, many hugs

Vero

[veronika]

great, I am the double poster these days

[CarolynB]

Vero

The shopping trip & lunch sounds like a lot of fun. If only we could all do that. Or all get together and go out for dinner. I am sure that it would be such wonderful fun.

Thanks for your support and not thinking that I am barking mad.

Really hope that acu goes well this evening. I hope that you find it as much help as I have done. You'll have to give us all the details so we can compare notes with you!!!

Love Carolyn xxx

[LauraLou]

Carolyn- I've got my fingers crossed for you! Wouldn't it be amazing if we had 2 natural BFPs.

I'm expecting AF in the next 4-5 days. I should start the stims next Saturday, if they go by the same schedule as last time.

Have to run.

Laura

[jackoa21]

hello ladies
Vero
I really hope the acc goes really well. Do your best to just relax and enjoy the session

Carolyn
Oh honey I am routing for you.. I can tell you that you are not barking mad at all. Your chances are just as good (if not better with having your brand new clean tubes) so you never know..

love and hugs to all I miss you
Jackie

[CarolynB]

Laura - Hope that you are doing ok with the down regging. Hope that AF turns up on time for you & then hopefully you'll be on the stimmies by next weekend Not long to go now. Hope that you are relaxing and getting your body ready and not too mad busy at work? Thansk for cheering me on - it means a lot.

Vero - hope that you were pleased with the acu session on Friday. How did it go? Must be strange now that you are not doing the PhD as you must have so much more time for you. I am loving having more time and feel so much less stressed

Jackie - Hope that the wedding was fab and that you have not been over doing it. So excited for you with a scan on Tuesday. Hopefully they will be able to tell you how far along you are? We shall all be waiting to hear your news. Glad that you don't think that I am totally barking mad!!

Em - lack of posts suggests that either you are having a v busy weekend or are not yet up and running on a new computer. Hope to hear from you soon hun. Not long to wait now until you get going

Dania - Thinking of you, the weeks are passing now as you start your 2nd trimester. Simply cannot believe it

Not much news from me. Have a bit of a cold coming with a sore throat so feeling a little sorry for myself!! Still cramping quite a bit in my tummy - no real clue if it is AF or anything else I know that HPTs are to be avoided but on my normal cycle AF will be here Friday (Day 32) so thinking that I'll test then. Trying to hold out that long. Pretty certain that will be 14 days post-ovualtion based on OPK results. Just know that if I test now it is bound to be a -ve and that will kill any PMA/hope that I am clinging onto.

Need to keep telling myself that this is a 'free trial'. Acu man thought that it was mad. I still have Sept - Oct-Nov-Dec when we can try and my body might be more 'normal'. Plus we have agreement to do ivf again in Jan so I have some options.

Have to go to a funeral tomorrow. Guy I used to work with. Only 60. Seems quite young. Plus have quite a few things in my diary on Tuesday and Wednsday to keep me occupied. Then acu Thursday and Robbie Williams on Friday. Hope that this will take my mind off the waiting.

Hope that you are all having a nice weekend. It is great to know that you are all out there, willing me on and also knowing what the waiting-hope-anxiety - nerves are all like. Especially when you have them all at the same time

Here's to a good week for all of us.
Lots of Love
Carolyn xxx

[veronika]

dear ladies,

Jackie,
how are you and your little beanie? I hope you had the best time at the wedding. I so love to be at weddings and how overjoying must it be with your news in the "background".

Carolyn,
it is so good that you can resist doing a HPT. It must be hard, though. I am thinking about you all the time...and hoping very hard and sending you the stickiest vibes.

Dania,
I just read from Carolyn that you are starting your second trimester. A big cheer on you! I am sure that you are having the wonderful pregnancy glow.

Em,
Hopefully that computer isn't being a pain and you are back with us soon!

Laura,
how is the down regging going? I hope ýou don't feel it too much..but soon you'll be in the second phase.

Acu was great. First of all it was just so relaxing. I did feel those needles quite a bit, but not in a painful way. I am going again on Wednesday, which will be 5 days post ovulation. Right now we are planning on doing two sessions before and one after ovulation.
I am presently reading a lot about it, trying to figure out what exactly is "out of balance" in my system according to Chinese Medicine. But I find it quite difficult to diagnose myself because I feel that their symptom categories overlap a lot. How did that work out for you? Did your accupuncturists (?word?) give you one clear diagnosis what was out of balance?

Wishing everybody a happy Sunday,

Love, Veronika

[Xrayem]

Hi guys,

I tried to come on line over the weekend but the site was down...must have been while you guys were asleep...it was most frustrating!

Well, I ovulated on friday night when I was out on a girls night. It was around 12am and I got the twinge. I handed my drink to the guy I was taking to (I think he was trying to chat me up but I'm sooo out of practise, who would know????) and told him I had to go, I was ovulating and needed to get home and shag my hubby! The look on his face!!!!

So I guess I am on my natural 2ww, too. Though it doesn't feel as stressful as I know that AF coming will mean the start of my IVF journey and my road to motherhood. How do you feel Carolyn? You are doing well not doing a HPT. I have one to do on day 20 as thats the day I have to buy my drugs and they are non-refundable if I don't use them. Murphy's law (thats my surname) says that I'll pay for the cycle and then find out I'm a natural preg!!!

No real news over here. We are all in shock over the death of Steve Irwin and also Peter Brock (very well known racing driver). Both were institutions in Oz and it doesn't seem fair that they are gone. Steve's zoo is an hour north of me and so he is considered a local....its very sad...he was a top bloke.

HUgs guys and shall speak soon....still have old computer, so bear with me.

Em

[CarolynB]

Em

You made me laugh so much with your ovulation story. I bet the guy was so dam shocked. Nice to be chatted up - that sure must make you feel good girl!!!!!

However, that made me want to ask you a question. How do you know so precisely when you do ovulate? Any tips that I can use would be really really helpful. Thank you

Good Luck for you over the next 2 weeks. Let's hope that you don't even need the ivf at all.

I simply could not believe what happened to Steve I. He comes over as such a cool bloke with all the animals. I have had sting rays in the water with us in the Maldives. I had no idea that their tale was like a razor. That was very scarey indeed.

Good Luck sweetie.
Love Carolyn xxx
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Vero

Glad that you found the acu relaxing. I do too when I am not thinking of questions to ask him. He has me on once prior to ovulation (Day 18) and once before AF (Day 32). So similar but not quite the same as you. Guess I have had a few sessions already - since -ve back in May!!!! Gosh - it is already 4 months since I got my BFN - had not realised that it had been that long for us.

He did not really talk to me about balance. Post ivf, he was convinced that my issue was lining/implantation based on what I had to tell him about my AF and also about my 1st ivf cycle. So he worked on improving my lining. Now he is just working on 'fine-tuning' my body so that it is ready to conceive. Not exactly sure what that means. Interested to know what you have read and what might be out of balance so do tell more.

Hope that it goes well again on Wednesday for you. Guess that he'll be getting you ready for baby dancing.............

Take good care.
Love
Carolynxxx
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I feel really really uncertain. Soreness in breasts seems to have gone so think that it may have been more in my head. Feel crampy in my tummy but that could easily be AF coming post-surgery. Feeling quite a lot less optimistic than I was a few days ago. Now more in the camp of how could it possibly work? No AF as yet but acu has taken away some of the signs that I used to get so guess the witch will just arrive. Feeling a little testy so starting to feel that she is probably on her way. This waiting does my head in!!!

Anyway, another day with no hpt. They are in the draw by my bed. Waiting. Waiting.

Jackie - hope the wedding was fab. Laura - hope down regging is ok for you. Dania - hope that you & the little one are doing well.

Love to you all.
Carolyn xxx