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[DaniaBB]

Laura,
I feel so sad for you Laura that you have to deal with another m/c. It does sounds like you have a strong plan set up and you have done so quickly. I'm sending you a big hug and I believe that you are strong and you will get through this.

My clinic told me the same thing as Carolyn's- that implantation is one of the most diffcult process for them to understand. They mentionned that heparin shots do help as well as low dose aspirin- depends on your diagnosis. I have a friend who was on heparin on her second IVF cycle and it worked for her that time.

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I spoke to one of my neighbors yesterday that lives a few houses away and she told me an uplifting story about her daughter's trials to get pregnant. For 15 years they tried to conceive (she is 40) - she didn't mention if they tried IVF. Last november she had finally been accepted to adopt a little Chinese girl- she had received all the info and was supposed to go pick her up in Oct. 2006- well in January she found out she was naturally pregnant and she gave birth to baby girl Eva two weekends ago- it was a tough pregnancy she had severe anemia and the baby had jaundice but now they are both healthy and happy. I hope this uplifts some of your spirits during this tough time.

Have to go do some laundry and the groceries- have a good weekend.

Lots of hugs to everyone!
Dania

[LauraLou]

Thank you all for your kind words. I took a Xanax and slept 12 hours last night, so I feel better rested than I have in weeks.

I am in that terrible limbo of knowing I've m/c'd but am waiting for the progesterone to wear off and for it to physically happen.

I am trying to stay focused on moving forward with donor IUI. Our goal is to have a baby and there are lots of positive aspects to IUI. It's cheap! We can do it month after month without long waiting periods inbetween. It doesn't require weeks of injections and horrible bloating.

If the problem is sperm related, this should fix it. If the problem is my egg quality, then we will know that and can decide what to do.

Carolyn- I will definitely ask about NKCs. I don't know if they tested me for that.

Thank you again for all your support.

[jackoa21]

Laura
My heart is breaking for you and DH that you have to go through this again. I am as impressed as everyone that you have a plan to meet with the docs so soon I think that is great as you have questions and this is something that hopefully can give you some answers.. I have heard like others that a low dose baby asprin and the heprin can help with the miscarrages somethiing to do with blood flow. You have been through so much that it is just not fair..

For the IUI my clinic was much like Em's however mine did the u/s on day three if all was good we did the follistem injections and they did daily monitoring with blood work.. They gave me the ovidrel (HCG) to take from home and than I came in and did the IUI.. I will tell you the last IUI they did 2 (one right before the 36 hours and one later) I really felt and I read that it was one of the best chances for IUI success. My clinic also said that even though IVF has a higher success rate if IUI can work they prefer it since its closer to a natural cycle. Again honey we are all so sorry you are going through this and I wish there was something I can do to ease your pain. Please know that we are praying for you and DH..

Dania your story of that lady was beautiful. What a rough road they had but now she has a healthy baby.. Its amazing what we all have to go through and all the pain and worry...

Love and hugs to all
Jackie

[jackoa21]

Laura
we must have been posting at the same time.. I just wanted to pop back in and say hello.. Its good you got some sleep and I think your plan is a very solid one. IUI will be a lot eaiser on your body..

love and hugs
Jackie

[CarolynB]

Laura

Just came to see how you were doing hun. Glad that you were able to rest properly last night. I am so sorry that you are in the awfully rough patch.

I was looking for info on NKCs for you. I found this article on reasons that ladies m/c plus a long list of tests that they suggest. It seemed to explain in quite a logical and clear fashion some of the issues.

http://www.rialab.com/miscarriages_prevented.php

Know that you may not want to read right now but the link will be there for you if you want to take a look before you go for your follow up appointment.

We are all here for you.
Huge Hugs
Carolyn xxx
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Dania - I loved your story especially as the dear lady was 4-0 when she achieved her dream. Gave me hope which is what we all need right now. Thank you for sharing with us

Em - Really hope that those follies are growing like mad and that relatives are not driving you too mad. Not long to go now hun

Vero - Hope thesis correction are not too awful

Jackie - Hope that you are taking good care of your little one - scan approaching

So for me AF should be here on Monday. Felt very bloated yesterday and lots of tummy ache. Quite emotional today. Quiet weekend with dh but then a busy week ahead to take my mind off things and busy next weekend as going to see 2 lots of friends outside of London. Both have new babies and not felt able to go see up until now but figured that it was better to go now rather than face going to see them all when on next cycle of IVF

Group hug as we all need right now especially for Laura.
Carolyn xxx

[Xrayem]

Hi lovelies,

Laura - how are you doing sweetie? Sounds like you have had some good sleep, which will do you the world of good.

I am so relieved that my egg pick up is tomorrow. I am so uncomfortable. The rellies have been good to me, fussing and making sure I don't do too much. They have really helped me take my mind off things.

My mum and Dad also came up to stay last night. They wanted to see my aunty and take my Grandma to see her before her op next week. Apparently the cancer (of her mouth) is worse than originally thought and it has been staged as a Stage 3-4. (the scale is stage 1 to stage 4 with 4 being the worst). They will be taking most of her tongue and cheek so she will be very disfigured when they finish. Mum had told her about my tmt and she was wishing me good luck....how amazing of her to be thinking of me when she is facing such a struggle.

The weather has turned and we are getting a glimpse of what summer will bring.....it is 30'C and humid. Doesn't help when you are full of eggs!

I hope everyone has a lovely sunday and pray that the new week will bring good news and smiles to us all.

Em

[CarolynB]

Em

Glad that you have had family around you and that has helped you through the weekend.

Very best of luck for EC tomorrow. Hope that you have a good crop of nice eggs. You seem to have responded well.

Remember to rest afterwards as your body needs to heal ready for the littles ones to come home.

Will think of you tomorrow.

Lots of Love
Carolyn xxx

PS - AF pretty much here for me - again. Not as gutted as last month as my expectations were so much lower Was feeling rough at the end of last wekk so glad that she is now here and I can get on with her. Glad appointment with consultant is now only just over 2 weeks away otherwise think that I would be even more disapppointed.

[LauraLou]

Em- I'm hoping you get lots and lots of egg tomorrow! Did you say you are doing a 3 day transfer? This is going to be a very busy week for you!

Carolyn- Sorry about AF arriving. I think your dr's appointment is within a day or so of mine. Hopefully we both get a plan that will let us start before Xmas.

Jackie- I hope you are still feeling well. It's great you haven't had that much morning sickness yet.

Dania- Every time I look at your ticker, I am amazed at how far long you at. It seems like just a few weeks ago that you got your BFP.

Veronika- Hope all is going well for you.

I am trying really hard to focus on moving forward with the DIUI. I am afraid the dr is going to want us to wait a couple of months before we start.

I really, really don't want to wait. I feel like if I don't have something positive to focus on, a way to move forward quickly, I am going to get really depressed.

Looking forward to getting Em's egg report tomorrow!

[Xrayem]

Hi girls,

Well we got 13 eggs. There were actually 14 in total but one was immature. The doc was pleased....I would have liked more but thems the brakes.

I had to have the protien drip after as they are concerned with hyperstim. The doc has already warned that he will not do the transfer if there's a hint of it.....does this mean that they think I will get it?

Have quite a bit of cramping but I'm trying to ignore it.....I want a fresh transfer!

Em

[CarolynB]

Em

13 is a really great number - should mean that you get some snowies too. You don't want too many or else they worry about the quality, as well as OHSS when the water rushes in to repair each follicle.

That is the exact same number that I got. They did tell me that I was at risk of OHSS and that I may not get a fresh transfer. Think that they do this to manage your expectations as hard to know how you'll react as it is your first go.

What they, and the ladies here told me to do, was drink loads of water and milk and eat lots of protein after EC and before ET. Rest is good as well so your body has the best chance to heal. When I went for ET, they would not tell me until the day whether we would go ahead with Fresh or not. On day they asked if I had been sick or dizzy. I had not had either. They asked how I felt. So told them that I had been a bit crampy which I was for the first 24 hours but it had past. They let me go ahead.

So really hope that it will be the same for you. Try to take it easy if you possibly can so you can heal and get ready for the little ones to come back where they belong.

Will post more tomorrow. Just rushing around today.

Love and hugs
Carolyn xxx

[jackoa21]

Hello laides

Em congratulations that is a great number of eggs.. Like Carolyn said its good you did not get too many more as this way you know the quality is still great.. How are you feeling. The cramps are normal just let DH take very good care of you and drink lots of fluids. My clinic reccomend V8 juice I was surprised as this was high in sodium but my clinic really liked it.. You are right about your Aunty and her thinking of you as she is going through all of this. We will keep her in our prayers also.. She must be a pretty amazing woman..

Laura
Hi honey I just wanted to say that I am with you on the moving forward and having a plan. I think you have a great plan and I am sure once you meet with the doctor you will have even more information.. I hope and pray you can start quickly.. Just remember we are all in this together.. Thinking of you and sending you big huge hugs

Carolyn
I am sorry that AF has shown her very ugly face. How are you feeling. I am glad as you said that your consultant appointment is soon as like you said you will get to have some ideas of your schedule.. I wanted to ask How is your Neice doing and DH with his partner? Have things settled a bit..

Dania
How are you honey and the little one.. When is your scan to see boy or girl again.. You must be getting exctied..

Vero
Hi honey you must be keeping busy but dont push yourself too hard..

For me just awaiting Thursdays scan.. Nerves a little high but I am trying to stay calm

Love and hugs
Jackie

[LauraLou]

Em- that is a great number of eggs! I can't wait to hear how many fertilized. I think your doctor is just being cautious. You haven't shown any serious signs of OHSS yet and if often starts before the ET. So hopefully your embies will be settling in a few days!

Jackie- I'm excited about your scan on Thursday. You should be able to see more this time!

Carolyn- Hope things are going better for DH.

I am really hoping to get some answers from the doctor in 2 weeks. What I'd like to know is (1) Is the reason the embies won't stick because DH has bad sperm and they don't make viable embryos or (2) Is there something wrong with me that is causing me to miscarry.

If the answer is DH's sperm, then donor sperm will fix that. If the problem is me, then this is going to keep happening. I am going to ask that he do more testing on me. I pulled out the list of tests that were done this summer and there are tests that weren't done, such as Natural Killer Cells and others that were in the article Carolyn gave me. I would like to be tested for everything he can possibly think of!

I am surprised AF hasn't arrived yet. Last time she came 4 days after I stopped the progesterone. Hopefully she will come today or tomorrow and I can get that over with.

[veronika]

Hello dear ladies,

Laura,
you are being so strong. Not a day has past that I didn't think of you, hoping that your loss would slowly start healing. I am very sorry for having been such a bad support this week, which must have been so hard for you.
I am convinced that it is the best thing to "force" your clinic to do all the possible tests there are in order to find out what went wrong. I hope that they are able and willing to give you some clear answers. I actually don't understand why this is not done routinely anyhow. It may be expensive to do these tests, but it is nothing compared to a whole cycle of IVF, which, in the end, leaves us devastated and not an inch wiser about why we didn't become pregnant.
Hopefully AF will arrive soon. Many hugs, Vero

Em,
13 eggs sound like a good harvest! Better have some less and good quality than too many! Maybe you already know how things are developing by now? I am thinking of you and keeping my fingers crossed.

Carolyn,
I am sorry that AF arrived. But it's oggd you were prepared - and you are further preparing you next IVF. It must take so much pressure off your shoulders. And you DH's shoulders. Two more weeks to go until the next appointment!

Jackie,
Wow, thursday is scan day. Jackie, you must be so happy. I am happy for you too.

Dania and little one. I hope you are having a wonderful week.

Oh, ladies, I had one sh- of a week. I had my thesis corrections back, which wasn't even so bad. But I had to do some more calculations and I got completely lost. I thought everything I had done before was total nonsene, started panicking, changing pages and pages of my thesis. It took a while until I came back to my senses, but I think I worked 15 hours a day for the whole week. I feel so dumm and numb now. I don't know if I would ever want to do this again. But - alas - tomorrow it's all off my chest and I won't have to think about it any longer. Now I am awaiting AF to come. Don't really think a little beanie yould want to stay with such a mommy at such times...

I am happy to be back! Lot's of love, Vero

[Xrayem]

Hi guys,

I called the clinic this morning to see how many fertilised and we have 11! 11 little pre-babies waiting to come back to me! I will have my transfer tomorrow morning and I will be able to find out the grading and how many we will have to freeze. I haven't been able to stop thinking about them all day!

I feel ok today. We still have DH's cousins staying and so we took them to the beach for the day. Now I feel a little crampy so I am going to take it easy tonight and try and get some good sleep.

Sorry again this is a "me" post but I am so new at all this and very preoccupied with it all at the moment.

Love to you all,

Em

[CarolynB]

Em

11 fertilising from 13 is a really great success rate. I had 13 at EC but only 9 fertilised. Shows that your younger eggs are much better

How wonderful to go to the beach. But do take it easy so you are ready for them to come home to you tomorrow. I am sorry that things are so rough on your Aunty right now. It is amazing that she is thinking of you when she has so much going on herself right now.

So exciting. Hope that they are growing and dividing well and that you will have some great ones to transfer as well as snow babies too.

Shall think of you tomorrow sweetie. Take it really easy after they are back on board. We will think of you even if you are not up to posting and will be here for you in your 2ww.

Keep taking the water/drinks after ET as that is when the risk of OHSS is at its highest per what I was told.

Hugs
Carolyn xxx

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Laura - Like Vero, I have thought of you every day to hope that you are getting through this. Hope that nasty AF does not stay away too long - the waiting must be so rough on you

But we shall both get a plan. You go on the Monday and I go the next day. Think that it will help as not having a plan feels like being suspended in space. Really hope that we will both be able to act before Xmas. The waiting is agony. Glad that the list was of some use - I'd pay and get all the tests done. At least it may give you some better answers. If you are paying and you say that you want them done then surely they'll run the whole lot for you

Vero - Oh dear. Sounds like you have been really up against it again. Nearly there - then you will not have to put yourself through it again. I am sure that your thesis is great and it is just a last minute wobble. Try not to get too stressed after all the effort that you have put in to calming yourself down. Hope that AF stays away

Jackie - So thrilling. Two days until scan day!! WOW. Thanks so much for asking about my niece. She seems ok. The worry is that this happened 6 months ago and now 10 days ago and yet they cannot seem to find anything wrong. It is just pretty worrying that she keeps passing out and having such pain in her tummy. They have said that if it happens again then they'll remove her appendix. Dh is not great right now. His partner goes away tomorrow for a few days so has not said anything. But we are worried that he would not announce something to my dh and then swan off on holiday. So our worry is what he'll do when he returns.....it is weighing on dh's mind. Although they are partners, the other guy has the controlling stake so can effectively do what he likes.

DH is jewish so we have a stone setting ceremony at the grave for his Dad on 5th November. It always happens about a year after the person has passed away. Then everyone will come back to the house afterwards (his sisters as closer by) but we will all be involved in preparing food etc. It is hard to move on with this still just ahead of us

Dania - Thanks for still be here for us and bringing us joy when we see your ticker, Cannot wait to know whether you are having a little boy or girl.

I am not v happy. Out last night with some old friends and someone asked if I was drinking water as I was pregnant. I get this all the time right now - I guess because I have taken the sabbatical too. It was about the 3rd person in like 10 days. Some people I am happy to tell but others I just don't want to know. I have been using the answer - If only it was that straight forward. I just wish people would not ask. I know that they don't know but now I would never say that to anyone. It is just getting me down right now. How cool to be able to say - yes actually I am. Then I get home and their are bills from my clinic. Bills for dh tests last December that have already been paid by our insurance. Plus a bill for £175 for my BFN follow-up. I was so angry. They had said that was part of the cost of ivf. Can you believe that they charge that amount for 15 mins telling you why you failed after you have already spent £3,000 on drugs and tmt. Have called today to say that we are not paying. I was so angry and upset. And the guy that you call at the clinic about bills is just so rude and unhelpful. Guess it is all weighing heavy on me as dh is under pressure and I have AF.

So need to get myself some real PMA. Only 2 weeks today until I go to the consultant. At least then we will know where we stand and can make plans for Xmas.

Love to you all & especially to Em for ET tomorrow sweetie.
Carolyn xxx