I am fine, ready to start the fight again, probably will take a break till mid of december and start again. thinking about doing accupanture, oh we will see
October buddies??
Malinka
Never give up hope!!! If you don't have that what else is there?? I had totally given up after my failed FET cycle and God showed me the way and everything fell into place for this cycle and it still amazes me everytime I think about how all this cycle came about!!!
Accupunture is great!!! I have done it before and it really relaxed me and made me be in a great mood after each session!! I would recommend it to anyone!!!
Never give up hope!!! If you don't have that what else is there?? I had totally given up after my failed FET cycle and God showed me the way and everything fell into place for this cycle and it still amazes me everytime I think about how all this cycle came about!!!
Accupunture is great!!! I have done it before and it really relaxed me and made me be in a great mood after each session!! I would recommend it to anyone!!!
Jeck
1st IVF 3/06 lost @ 8w3d
FET 7/06 -ve
2nd IVF 10/06 lost @ 5w4d *8 Frosties Left
Became a Mommy through Adoption!!!!
1st IVF 3/06 lost @ 8w3d
FET 7/06 -ve
2nd IVF 10/06 lost @ 5w4d *8 Frosties Left
Became a Mommy through Adoption!!!!
I am trying hon, i am really trying to hold myself together, it is pretty hard you know to come around with a fact that it didnt work and as my doctor nicely putted "Bad Luck". anyways, enough of self pity, we are all fighters here, right?
do you mind tell me more about accupunture? how do I go about choosing a good one? when should i do it, before the cycle or during the cycle?
do you mind tell me more about accupunture? how do I go about choosing a good one? when should i do it, before the cycle or during the cycle?
Malinka, I would start it as soon as possible to help get back to your old self and help you renew! (depending on funds available, it can all start to add up) I have heard of some people's insurance covering sessions... I am from a small town so I had only one to choose from! But I have read on here to try to find one that specializes and familiar with IVF. Your clinic might have recommendations for one...
At least your Re think it will work for you and that is great. I know the "bad luck" line, been there and heard that... I don't know why we have to go thru the failed cycles but hopefully in the end it is all worth it!!!
At least your Re think it will work for you and that is great. I know the "bad luck" line, been there and heard that... I don't know why we have to go thru the failed cycles but hopefully in the end it is all worth it!!!
Jeck
1st IVF 3/06 lost @ 8w3d
FET 7/06 -ve
2nd IVF 10/06 lost @ 5w4d *8 Frosties Left
Became a Mommy through Adoption!!!!
1st IVF 3/06 lost @ 8w3d
FET 7/06 -ve
2nd IVF 10/06 lost @ 5w4d *8 Frosties Left
Became a Mommy through Adoption!!!!
Hello All...It's been a while, but I hope you understand. Every time I came back to the board to read, I ended up in tears. Still not completely over that, but I can hide it from my husband sitting next to me, so not quite as emotional today.
Just to clarify, we did do ICSI, and all failed. The clinic's never seen this before and believes there is something wrong with the ability for my husband's sperm to "activate", which causes the DNA to uncoil, split, and merge with my DNA. So, although you all say not to give up, there wasn't much hope after my initial conversation with the doctor.
Since then, I've talked to him again, and he believes that ICSI may have been bad in our case. He's not sure if all my husband's sperm are defunct, or if they just happened to select the wrong ones for ICSI. He was also uncertain if it's even my husband's sperm that's the issue for sure. I did have a pregnancy over 15 years ago, so he believes it's my husband, but he's not positive. He did indicate that if we let our eggs fertilize naturally, natural selection would take-over and if there are some sperm that are "normal" amongst the whole that they will be the ones to "drill" into the egg(s) first.
Also, only 6 of my 15 eggs were mature. 2 of which started to create a second polar body, but never started cellular division. Those two are what give a little glimmer of hope. The doctor believes that we shouldn't give up after one failure, as all scientific "experiments" have to go through two trials before any valid conclusions can be drawn. His advice is: 1) Super-stimulate me with a little different protocol to try to produce a lot more mature eggs, 2) let half of the mature eggs attempt to fertilize naturally with my husband's sperm, and 3) use donor sperm with the other half to ensure it is his sperm and not my eggs. If his fertilize, then we have no need for the donor-fertilized eggs, and if they don't then we have that as another option. We're totally against the later. Donor sperm just wasn't an option for us.
The current clinic said they would give us a "deep discount" to do it again, but would understand if we opted for another clinic with different protocol that might work better for our situation. We do have the option to go to an RE with our State University Hospital that is within my insurance network. I just received their packet today, and made a consultation appointment for December 15th, but I'm still not sure what I'm going to do. To start over getting all our records together from four different sources and starting over with documenting all our history again, just seems feudal. I'm torn at this point. There is some out of pocket for our treatment, so its not been inexpensive up to this point, either. What should we do..??? I guess time will give us the answer that's right for us, but in the meantime I'm torn...
Just wanted to touch base, and thank you all for your support and thoughts. I really do appreciate it. Congratulations to all who have had some major BFP's while I've been away, and to the rest, I wish you all the best. Take care, and all my best...
Just to clarify, we did do ICSI, and all failed. The clinic's never seen this before and believes there is something wrong with the ability for my husband's sperm to "activate", which causes the DNA to uncoil, split, and merge with my DNA. So, although you all say not to give up, there wasn't much hope after my initial conversation with the doctor.
Since then, I've talked to him again, and he believes that ICSI may have been bad in our case. He's not sure if all my husband's sperm are defunct, or if they just happened to select the wrong ones for ICSI. He was also uncertain if it's even my husband's sperm that's the issue for sure. I did have a pregnancy over 15 years ago, so he believes it's my husband, but he's not positive. He did indicate that if we let our eggs fertilize naturally, natural selection would take-over and if there are some sperm that are "normal" amongst the whole that they will be the ones to "drill" into the egg(s) first.
Also, only 6 of my 15 eggs were mature. 2 of which started to create a second polar body, but never started cellular division. Those two are what give a little glimmer of hope. The doctor believes that we shouldn't give up after one failure, as all scientific "experiments" have to go through two trials before any valid conclusions can be drawn. His advice is: 1) Super-stimulate me with a little different protocol to try to produce a lot more mature eggs, 2) let half of the mature eggs attempt to fertilize naturally with my husband's sperm, and 3) use donor sperm with the other half to ensure it is his sperm and not my eggs. If his fertilize, then we have no need for the donor-fertilized eggs, and if they don't then we have that as another option. We're totally against the later. Donor sperm just wasn't an option for us.
The current clinic said they would give us a "deep discount" to do it again, but would understand if we opted for another clinic with different protocol that might work better for our situation. We do have the option to go to an RE with our State University Hospital that is within my insurance network. I just received their packet today, and made a consultation appointment for December 15th, but I'm still not sure what I'm going to do. To start over getting all our records together from four different sources and starting over with documenting all our history again, just seems feudal. I'm torn at this point. There is some out of pocket for our treatment, so its not been inexpensive up to this point, either. What should we do..??? I guess time will give us the answer that's right for us, but in the meantime I'm torn...
Just wanted to touch base, and thank you all for your support and thoughts. I really do appreciate it. Congratulations to all who have had some major BFP's while I've been away, and to the rest, I wish you all the best. Take care, and all my best...
Charity
Me 37, DH 34
1st ICSI Oct-06 - No Fert
1st IUI w/Inj Jun-07 - BFPX2/MC
2nd IUI w/ Inj Mar-08 - BFN
3rd IUI w/Inj May-08 - Chem
4th IUI w/Inj Jul-08 - BFN
Dx Homo C677T MTHFR Mutation - Aug-08
New Hope W/New Dx & New RE For Feb-08 IUI
Me 37, DH 34
1st ICSI Oct-06 - No Fert
1st IUI w/Inj Jun-07 - BFPX2/MC
2nd IUI w/ Inj Mar-08 - BFN
3rd IUI w/Inj May-08 - Chem
4th IUI w/Inj Jul-08 - BFN
Dx Homo C677T MTHFR Mutation - Aug-08
New Hope W/New Dx & New RE For Feb-08 IUI
Just stopping in for a quick hello as I am working some late hours this week and I am totally stressed and exhausted. I'll try to keep up a little better after my appointment next week. I am getting nervous and anxious! Good luck to all on the 2ww and congrats to the BFP's Keep them coming!
ME-30 DH-36
Ist IVF/ICSI April '06 - BFP -- m/c 9 weeks
FET -- January 16, 2007 - BFP! Due October 4
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Ist IVF/ICSI April '06 - BFP -- m/c 9 weeks
FET -- January 16, 2007 - BFP! Due October 4
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Racheal-OMG-CONGRATULATIONS!!! I am so thrilled for you and your DH! How wonderful for you both! Best wishes for a healthy and happy pregnancy!
Charity-I am so glad to see an update from you. I am so sorry that you are going through this and I wish you the best for the choices that you and your DH have to make. I understand not wanting to go the donor sperm route-my DH and I have also agreed that if we can't do it with our own sperm and egg then we will just not do it. I can imagine how devastated and frustrated you are and I wish I could help you somehow. It sounds like your clinic is focused on finding the best options for you which is great. Hang in there-you are in my thoughts.
It is so exciting to see all these BFPs! I live vicariously through you guys! I was relieved to see that some of you have also felt a little crampy because I have too-off and on since the transfer. In fact this morning, I felt very crampy and thought that it's all over. It has only been 6 days since my 3 day transfer-wouldn't that be too early for AF if she is coming? I don't know. At this point, I too feel that it hasn't worked for me. Sorry Jenn, my test buddy, I wish I could be more encouraging to you but I feel the exact same way you do! I am hoping but don't feel too confident at this point. Have you decided if you are going to do an HPT yet?
Good luck to all! Looks like there have been some great transfers lately! I hope we keep seeing more BFPs!
Charity-I am so glad to see an update from you. I am so sorry that you are going through this and I wish you the best for the choices that you and your DH have to make. I understand not wanting to go the donor sperm route-my DH and I have also agreed that if we can't do it with our own sperm and egg then we will just not do it. I can imagine how devastated and frustrated you are and I wish I could help you somehow. It sounds like your clinic is focused on finding the best options for you which is great. Hang in there-you are in my thoughts.
It is so exciting to see all these BFPs! I live vicariously through you guys! I was relieved to see that some of you have also felt a little crampy because I have too-off and on since the transfer. In fact this morning, I felt very crampy and thought that it's all over. It has only been 6 days since my 3 day transfer-wouldn't that be too early for AF if she is coming? I don't know. At this point, I too feel that it hasn't worked for me. Sorry Jenn, my test buddy, I wish I could be more encouraging to you but I feel the exact same way you do! I am hoping but don't feel too confident at this point. Have you decided if you are going to do an HPT yet?
Good luck to all! Looks like there have been some great transfers lately! I hope we keep seeing more BFPs!
Me-30 DH-35
TTC since 2/01
4 failed IUIs
Adopted son from Russia 2/06!!
2 more failed IUIs
1st IVF 10/06-BFP!!
TTC since 2/01
4 failed IUIs
Adopted son from Russia 2/06!!
2 more failed IUIs
1st IVF 10/06-BFP!!
Hi guys,
ET went ok today....it only took 5 mins! I thought it would be a longer drawn out procedure. My doc was so pleased for us....all of our 11 embryos were perfect! So we have out back 2 and now we have 9 frosties!!!!! Can you believe it? Thats 9!
Afterwards, I was resting in the clinic recovery room and they offered me a brandy! Apparently its tradition at my clinic and we have the second best success rates in Australia.....so who was I to question it. They theory is that it relaxes you...certainly works.
But now I am feeling crampy and I have a bad headache which is making me feel a little nausea. Is this normal? I have already drunk 2 litres of water/gatorade and have been drinking two protein drinks a day. Is this OHSS?
EM
ET went ok today....it only took 5 mins! I thought it would be a longer drawn out procedure. My doc was so pleased for us....all of our 11 embryos were perfect! So we have out back 2 and now we have 9 frosties!!!!! Can you believe it? Thats 9!
Afterwards, I was resting in the clinic recovery room and they offered me a brandy! Apparently its tradition at my clinic and we have the second best success rates in Australia.....so who was I to question it. They theory is that it relaxes you...certainly works.
But now I am feeling crampy and I have a bad headache which is making me feel a little nausea. Is this normal? I have already drunk 2 litres of water/gatorade and have been drinking two protein drinks a day. Is this OHSS?
EM
TTC 5yrs - Unexplained Infertility
3xIUI's (April, June & Aug 06) - BFN,s
1st IVF - Oct 06 - Jasper & Finlay born 07/06/07
Natural preg - Addison Grace born 15/10/08
3xIUI's (April, June & Aug 06) - BFN,s
1st IVF - Oct 06 - Jasper & Finlay born 07/06/07
Natural preg - Addison Grace born 15/10/08
Oh Charity I am so sorry. I'm glad you've managed to get a feedback session with your doctor so soon afterwards. At least you've got some answers to some of your questions and some options to think about.
Hang on in there. Don't rush into any decisions or change of clinics, and I really, really, really hope it works out for you.
Take care
Racheal - congrats - I knew you had a super embie in there - an inspirational story!!
xx
Hang on in there. Don't rush into any decisions or change of clinics, and I really, really, really hope it works out for you.
Take care
Racheal - congrats - I knew you had a super embie in there - an inspirational story!!
xx
Bec
My age 33, DH 32
Nat pg & m/c @ 8.5 wks Jan 05
IVF Nov 05 m/c @ 5 wks
3 x IUI 2006 all -ve
IVF Oct 06... BFP! A little boy due 6 July!
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My age 33, DH 32
Nat pg & m/c @ 8.5 wks Jan 05
IVF Nov 05 m/c @ 5 wks
3 x IUI 2006 all -ve
IVF Oct 06... BFP! A little boy due 6 July!
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Hey Jen J,
I too have been crampy off and on since my transfer. I gotta think it is either the progesterone or just our ovaries trying to get back to normal with all they have been thru. Too early for AF I am sure!
I had a 5 day transfer but still have to wait to 2 weeks from transfer date b/c of this study I did. Last time I got to test 2 weeks from EC - this time it's 2 weeks from ET. The wait is killing me but I am hoping this week will fly by and then the weekend and then next week won't seem so long!
EM,
That's awesome about your ET! We sound like we had similar results, I had 7 excellents and they were able to freeze a total of 10. It's nice to see the doctors so excited about it too...makes you feel better!
Take it easy and rest. Keep up the sodium intake...V8 juice is great. I bet the headaches maybe from the progesterone - I get those every now and then too. The cramping is totally normal as long as it is not terribly painful.
AMD,
Can't wait til you get to start your FET! I hope it works for the both of us this time...all the way to 9 months!
Charity,
I am so glad you were able to get some answers...now the hardest thing is figuring out which way to proceed! I will be praying for you and DH to firmly agree with each other and support each other with whatever you decide. You'll get there Charity, sometimes it just takes longer. But it will give you such an awesome testimony and experience to help other ladies in the future I bet.
Hi to everyone else...have a great day!
Allison
I too have been crampy off and on since my transfer. I gotta think it is either the progesterone or just our ovaries trying to get back to normal with all they have been thru. Too early for AF I am sure!
I had a 5 day transfer but still have to wait to 2 weeks from transfer date b/c of this study I did. Last time I got to test 2 weeks from EC - this time it's 2 weeks from ET. The wait is killing me but I am hoping this week will fly by and then the weekend and then next week won't seem so long!
EM,
That's awesome about your ET! We sound like we had similar results, I had 7 excellents and they were able to freeze a total of 10. It's nice to see the doctors so excited about it too...makes you feel better!
Take it easy and rest. Keep up the sodium intake...V8 juice is great. I bet the headaches maybe from the progesterone - I get those every now and then too. The cramping is totally normal as long as it is not terribly painful.
AMD,
Can't wait til you get to start your FET! I hope it works for the both of us this time...all the way to 9 months!
Charity,
I am so glad you were able to get some answers...now the hardest thing is figuring out which way to proceed! I will be praying for you and DH to firmly agree with each other and support each other with whatever you decide. You'll get there Charity, sometimes it just takes longer. But it will give you such an awesome testimony and experience to help other ladies in the future I bet.
Hi to everyone else...have a great day!
Allison
Mommy to GBB triplets born 12/31/07 at 34w3d
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Charity
Please do not give up! I know that it is really hard and before I took the HPT on Sunday, I had this discussion with my DH. We were sure it had not worked since our chances were so low. We had decided to stay with our current RE because practice makes perfect. Sometimes it takes a second try and we had decided to wait until the new year (for luck, start the new year with a new chance). We were really really lucky, and there is not a second I do not thank God for making this happen. You will be lucky again too. When they did my 1 embie transfer, they told me they were shocked that out of 5 eggs (9 follicles) we had only 2 make it to ISCI and then only one split. But, as my story can prove, there is always hope! I am sending lots of love to you and your DH. Only time can heal this kind of hurt, but it will also make success that much sweeter.
Good Luck!
Please do not give up! I know that it is really hard and before I took the HPT on Sunday, I had this discussion with my DH. We were sure it had not worked since our chances were so low. We had decided to stay with our current RE because practice makes perfect. Sometimes it takes a second try and we had decided to wait until the new year (for luck, start the new year with a new chance). We were really really lucky, and there is not a second I do not thank God for making this happen. You will be lucky again too. When they did my 1 embie transfer, they told me they were shocked that out of 5 eggs (9 follicles) we had only 2 make it to ISCI and then only one split. But, as my story can prove, there is always hope! I am sending lots of love to you and your DH. Only time can heal this kind of hurt, but it will also make success that much sweeter.
Good Luck!
Racheal Matos
1st IVF - Oct 06 - BFP It's A GIRL!
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cmoscar you are the poster woman for it only takes one good one!!!!!!! And I am so happy for you.
charity try and be strong. I know it is such an emotional rollarcoaster. But there is no telling what you or your husband's body was going through that month. Maybe if you find the strength to try again it will totally differnt.
I started another thread called BFP awaiting Scans. I am hoping the ladies that have recieved the BFP will meet over there so we can keep in touch and support each other during this difficult waiting period.
God Bless you ladies,
Cowgirl
charity try and be strong. I know it is such an emotional rollarcoaster. But there is no telling what you or your husband's body was going through that month. Maybe if you find the strength to try again it will totally differnt.
I started another thread called BFP awaiting Scans. I am hoping the ladies that have recieved the BFP will meet over there so we can keep in touch and support each other during this difficult waiting period.
God Bless you ladies,
Cowgirl
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Charity, I was glad to hear from you. Been thinking about you, and wondering what your plan is now. I'm glad you met with the doctor. I know this must be hard for you.
JenJ- Well, yesterday my blood showed high estrogen and progest. was good. My HCG was 15.9 which means nothing because I had to take an HCG booster Friday night so that messes with the numbers. I go back Friday and hopefully the HCG went up which would indicate pg. I'm not feeling to positive about it. As for the HPT's... yes I caved. And then I went and bought some more. Just trying to see if the very faint line from the booster fades and then comes back. Just trying to drive myself crazy is more like it!! Not feeling very confident.
I feel like I should know by now, or have symptoms at least.
Take care everyone!
JenJ- Well, yesterday my blood showed high estrogen and progest. was good. My HCG was 15.9 which means nothing because I had to take an HCG booster Friday night so that messes with the numbers. I go back Friday and hopefully the HCG went up which would indicate pg. I'm not feeling to positive about it. As for the HPT's... yes I caved. And then I went and bought some more. Just trying to see if the very faint line from the booster fades and then comes back. Just trying to drive myself crazy is more like it!! Not feeling very confident.
I feel like I should know by now, or have symptoms at least.Take care everyone!
Jenn
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Dear Charity, try and stay strong, dont' give up, all those BFPs this month are giving me some hope that we all have chance.
I am also staying with my doctor, just taking some time off, to try and put myself together for the next round.
I totally understand you about donors sperm, but why can' t they try and figure out what might be wrong with your DH's sperm, if that's the case?
I mean, to stimulate you again, put you thru a whole protocol and t hen see what is going on is very stressful and painful, why can't your RE do something before hand? I know it might be totally different, but as you know we have a male factor , so they performed a testicular biopsy to see if there any sperm and if it is good.
I am also staying with my doctor, just taking some time off, to try and put myself together for the next round.
I totally understand you about donors sperm, but why can' t they try and figure out what might be wrong with your DH's sperm, if that's the case?
I mean, to stimulate you again, put you thru a whole protocol and t hen see what is going on is very stressful and painful, why can't your RE do something before hand? I know it might be totally different, but as you know we have a male factor , so they performed a testicular biopsy to see if there any sperm and if it is good.