Hi Davesu,
Thanks for the advice/info. Well I'm hoping that the alcohol/caffeine is the reason, it just seems like I'm hoping for too much expecting 100,000 to go to any type of a normal count. I guess we're both just impatient (of course). I never imagined this would be a problem. His history though is lots of beer every weekend and monster drinks everyday. So he's doing great and I'm really proud of him, so our fingers our crossed

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We recently ordered proxeed (doctor's recommendation) and he has been alcohol/caffeine free and on the proxeed one month on November 1st. So, they want one sperm count November 7th and another in the beginning of January (that will be a total of 3 months on proxeed, caffeine and alcohol free).
I'm sorry to hear your first cycle failed, I'm not too familiar with all of the procedures quite yet but it seems if things don't improve we'll need the ICSI from what I've researched..... Is that done in a combo with IVF? I got a price quote of 15,500 for one cycle? Is that about right? The cost makes me so sad for everyone trying to conceive, some people will never be able to come up with all of the money this costs and its sad
I wish you and your wife the BEST of luck in 2007, hopefully you can have some good new years baby news

Tdcarrera