October buddies??

[Jen1d]

Hi girls
I had my ET a few hours ago and had a 4 and 5 cell embies transfered on day 3. I thought they would have developed more by day 3. Just wondered if anyone has had a bfp from a 4 and 5 cell on day 3?
Am feeling pretty low since we had a 6 and 7 last time and got a neg so feel like this will not work again.

What was worse is that my dh was nearly in tears, which is SO not like him. I feel so guilty i'm stopping him have a baby.

Thanks for your help

Jen x

[cowgirlclass]

Hope your doing well Jen1d! I have read LOTS of stores of day 3 4 cell stories! I bet your chances are as good as the rest of us. At this point it really boils down to your uterus being ready. It is my believe in my research that blood flow to the uterus is important. I think that is why some activity is good. As far as your hubby, I am sure it is difficult for both of you, IVF is very emotionally demanding on everyone involved. Try to stay positive.

May god bless you and your family!

Xrayem- so I have to ask are you an xray tech? One of the girls that transfered the same day as me and got her BFP as me was a scan tech. When I seen her the day of my PG scan I asked her if she had scanned herself and she said no. I could not have resisted! But she did have some light spotting the week before and had one a week earlier and has seen the sac and heartbeat!

You will have to join us on the BFP awaiting scan thread!


Take care everyone, the weekend is almost here!
Cowgirl

[Nance]

Hi Everyone,

Jen1d - I have heard many stories of women with similiar stories who had strong BFPs and very healthy babies. I think you have as much as a chance of the rest of us. Please try not to be discouraged. I am sorry you hubby is so upset but I find that the more you talk about it the better you both will feel. I'll be praying for you and for a quick 2ww and a BFP!

Well, I am off to my 1st scan. I am terrified that they will not see anything. I am only 5w and 2d along so I find it hard to imagine that they can see anything at this point. Please say a prayer that it goes well for me.

Thank you all for the support.

Talk to you later,
Nance

[thook]

Good Morning Girls-

Jill- great news on your numbers.... how exciting. Now the countdown for your first scan begins. It's a hard wait, but you can do it... just think positive thoughts.

Xrayem- you also have great numbers... how exciting! When do you go in for your first scan?

Ophee- wow you also have great numbers... everyone is doing so well! When is your first scan?

Jen1d- I have also heard many BFP stories that had come from 4 and 5 cell embies. I know it's easier said than done, but try and stay positive.... and take care of those little embies inside of you. I'm so sorry that your DH was almost in tears... that had to be hard for you to see 9I know it would have been hard for me to see). However, don't ever let yourself feel guilty over this. Remember that God has a rhyme and reason for everything. You will get your baby one way or another. You'll be in my thoughts and prayers until you get your BFP.

Nance- good luck at your scan today... you must be so excited! Please fill us in when you can.

To Everyone Else... have a great day!

Tasha

[jenn]

Jen1- You are doing good, try not to worry too much! I know it's easier said than done! There was a girl on this thread who had a 2 cell transferred and is pg! Good luck to you!

Nance- I hope your scan goes well today. Let us know!

[Nance]

Hi Everyone,

Thank you for your well wishes. I am back from my scan and in total shock. The Dr. saw 2 sacs. Twins! OMG!! I am so not prepared for this. Of course I am happy and I feel that I am blessed but I am terrified. The Dr. could not see heartbeats yet because it is too early but I have to go back in about a week and he said we might be able to see them at that point. He said everything looks good the sacs are in a good place and are the right size for this time. Please, do not think I am complaining because I am not I am just in shock and really scared.

I hope everyone is well.

Take care,
Nance

[Jen1d]

Thanks girls for your encouragement.
When i spoke to the embryologist he didn't sound all that positive but to be fair i think he was just being careful about what he said. However my Dr at the hosp who did the transfer has assurred me that we have as good a chance as anyone and even though they are a little slow they may continue to develop fine now they are home. She was much more positive and said she has seen so many people with much worse embies and they got a bfp.
Maybe its just because i have been dreading this day as in the past its always brought me a bfn.
I just pray that we can have just one bfp.

Cowgirl-you said its best to do some activity to keep the blood flow to the uterus. How much should i do? My Doc has told me to rest for about 4-5 days as this is when implantation is likely to happen. I have been lying down all day but now wonder if i should be moving a bit?? Thanks for your help

Am thinking of you all

Love Jen x

[Charity]

Jen1d...All I wanted to say, was that my doctor said that the embies in the laboratory and the medium environment are under a great deal of stress, and "want" to be in their natural environment. They do better back in their Mommies bellies, where they should be. So, your babes may be starting out slower than ideal, but once they get settled in, they may very well take-off from there. Don't be discouraged, keep happy thoughts, and try to stay relaxed. You've taken every step necessary to make this happen, and now is your time to be having positive thoughts. Take care, kiddo...

For me...I go to my follow-up appointment today to discuss our next step due to our zero fertilization rate. I've been in contact with Dr. Sher (SIRM), not sure if you've heard of him, and he is encouraging me to have a phone consultation with him. I think I could get pg with his help, but having to travel to NYC or Las Vegas for 8 to 14 days just isn't very realistic for me. I'm hoping my conversation with my current RE goes well, and he will consider using the A/ACP + E2V protocol that the SIRM clinics have been using with a lot of success. Also, believe we need to get a better analysis of my husband's sperm for it's DNA integrity before moving into the next cycle. Oh! And I think I should be scanned and monitored up to the day I trigger (not last seen four days before my EC/ER), and maybe actually see my doctor more than just the initial consult and immediately after the ER/EC. Otherwise, didn't see hide nor hair of him the entire process. They also charged me more than Dr. Sher charges (an internationally renound RE) and he has a Outcome Based Plan where you are refunded significant portions of your fees if the cycle fails, which my clinic doesn't offer:!: To top things, they also neglected my husband during the times he attended the clinic with me. They called me by name, welcomed me, called me back and never addressed my husband. They treated him as if he weren't even there. I've got quite a bone to pick, and I hope the doctor's prepared. We'll see...

Sometimes knowledge is power, but it can also leave you more confused than when you started, and that's exactly where I'm at today. I have no clue what to do next. Our insurance money is running out, and this will probably be our last go round, so have to make the right decision. Urgh! Help! Tell me what doctor I should go to, what tests to have done, what protocol to use, if we should have back-up donor sperm on hand, if we should not do anything and let nature take it's course, etc...Sorry to dump on you guys again...I'm just so frustrated, disheartened, and unsure of any decision I make anymore...I cry at stupid stuff, and then talk about the failed IVF like it's humorous in the next breath...I'm a basket case, but apparently am hiding it well, cause no one's institutionalized my ass...as of yet.

This crazy lady better get her butt back to work before I have NO insurance money left...Nor a mortgage payment, food on the table, clothes on my back, etc...Take care ladies...Love you all, and am so excited for all you BFP'ers...You're all on your way...Later Gators!

[jstrandlund]

Nance, Twins, how wonderful!! I think that twins would be scary but so fun! i am sooooo happy for you!! Congratulations

[jenn]

Nance how wonderful! I hope next week you get to hear heartbeats, I know you will feel better when you do. It sounds like everything is going well!!

Well, I am off to the Dr. to see what she has to say about when we should try again and what we should do different. Hopefully she will be encouraging because right now I feel like it didn't work this time so why should I try again? Oy! someone beat me over the head with the PMA stick I'm running low talk to you all later! take care everyone!

[cowgirlclass]

Jen1d- do a search on the IVF or this board about 2ww activity, Ghost actually posted some studies on it. As for me I did a little bit of walking like I normally do on our farm, but just did not get over hot and just strolled.


Nance- WOW!!!! Twins how exciting! It will be so exciting when you can see their little heartbeats next week!

Jstrandlund we need to get your ticker fixed They provide so much information so nicely!

Take care everyone,
Cowgirl

[jstrandlund]

Cowgirl, I am trying to get that ticker to work but it is being really stubborn for some reason. If I can't get it to work today I am going to use another one.
Nance, I bet you can't wait to hear those two heartbeats next week!!
I am doing great. I still don't think the BFP has completely sunk in yet. I am so excited for my first scan on Nov. 15th. I honestly think this is almost as hard as the 2ww for the pg test.
I hope eveyone is doing well and has a great day!

[cmoscar]

To start off...

We had our u/s today. The baby is fine and the heartbeat is strong at 118 bpm. He/she measures 4.5 mm and is right on target at 6 weeks and 1 day. My husband and I were so very happy. I have my final u/s and release appointment set for November 14th and the an appointment with my ob/gyn on Nov 16th. I feel so relieved! I just needed to see the little heartbeat and make sure he/she is still there.

As for Jen1Dd
Trust me when I say, "I know how you feel!" If you remember, I had all but given up after we only had one embie to transfer. They did the transfer only 36 hours after the ER and the embie was only a two-cell. I tried to keep my chin up, but finally broke down and posted a question to Ghost about my chances. Ghost told me I really only had 10-20% chances of it working. I was devesated! I was sure it was over. I had a really hard cry and a long comforting shower and preceded to move on and try not to think about it. By the grace of God, our beanie stuck and like I said above, we finally got to see the heartbeat (and hear it!). Miracles can happen to anyone, and I know this because I was sure I didn't derserve one yet! I already have two wonderful boys, and I was not in the same boat as those of you without children, but somehow, God saw fit to give us this wonderful blessing. Your time is now and you should visualize you little beanies sticking in and getting comfy for their nine months stay. Just do some quiet time laying down and visualizing this happening so your beanies see you have a nice place to stay. Have a little faith in your body, it knows what to do!

Charity - I am sorry for your concerns. I can imagine how hard this is for you. I know that the local clinics to us are well known and I decided to ask my primary dr for a referal. She recommended my RE and later I asked a few ob/gyn drs as well and they also recommended my RE. I trust my primary and dearly value her opinions. She has never failed me or my family, so I went with my RE because of her. Unfortunatly, so much of this is chance. IVF has been a rollercoaster that I personally will not do again. My husband and I decided before we found out we were pregnant, that we were going to adopt because I could not do the emotional drain again. This is the hardest thing I have ever done and that includes giving birth! I wish you well, and I hope they have some answers for you.

Good luck to all of you who are on your 2ww!

[thook]

Jill- I actually think the wait for your first scan is even harder than the 2ww. Probably because you now know your pregnant, but have no clue what is going on in there. Is everything ok? Is the baby growing ok? Are my numbers increasing? It will drive you crazy....

Jenn- please let us know what your doctor says.. about your next steps. I know it's easier said than done, but try and stay positive about the whole process.

Charity- good to hear from you. I wish I had all these answers for you.... it would make life so much easier. It sounds like your leaning towards Dr. Sher... and they always say you have to go with your gut. Hopefully you'll get all your answers after your visit today. Good Luck!

Nance- congrats on your twins... I'm sure your in shock right now!

To Everyone Else-
Have a Great Day...

Tasha

[gina.s.]

nance/everyone-
well i too had my scan today and am in the twin club!!!!! we too were in shock although it was always going to be a possibilty really. we are now just thinking about the future but also just praying we can hang on to them as it is still early days.
sorry haven't posted for a while, have been on holiday. i have been checking in and have read lots of positive stories and im so pleased to for everyone who got bfp's. take care everyone xx