Pheonixes Rising

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Lis
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Post by Lis »

Julie that's fab news honey about the treatment - I'm so excited for you! :D xx

Nicki - don't you dare give up hope .... so many people have thought AF was coming when it has been a BFP all along - you know that so hang on in there sweetie xx
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Post by ogr1 »

if you havent gone threw it then how could anyone really understand...


nick you hang in there..
you know my e-mail so use it if you want...
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Post by souris »

NICKI!!
Just wanted to send you an extra bucket full of PMA. ONly 2 days to go, dont give up now. I am one of the girl who was CERTAIN that AF was showing up, well I guess my body proved me wrong and I did not know it that well after all!!
I am praying hard for a BFP you so deserve it...

take care
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04/ 05 ICSI -tive 02/06 ICSI. No fertilisation
09/ 06 ICSI. BFP!!! M/C at 12 weeks.04/07 ? ICSI -tive
04/08 ICSI BFP!!! M/C at 12 weeks
Feb 09 6th ICSI has started! neg
June 09 7th ICSI. Please make it happen!!
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Post by jen babes »

Nicki Honey hang in there...it's such a stress i know but we are there holding your hands. x x I am away ubntil wednesday...hope af stays away for thwe next 9 months :D :D love x x

Lucy...what a terrible time you have had...talk about an unsupportive selfish family!!!! You are right though in saying unless you have been through it you don't know what the pain is like. People just don't understand what it's like and the continuing grief anfd loss feelings. Hugs x x Good for you for being big and expaining your point of view. On the Lola BFP...was it deffo Lolajones who used to frequent this pheonix site that's BFP?

Julie- Hey honey what wonderful news...so good to hear we are just waiting on your af then hoping the clinic will take you or FET...fingers crossed ....am so excited for you x x


Lisa- good to hear from you again Honey...and so glad your looking after yourself has worked to help relax you this week. enjoy the acu...you deserve it. You sound so full of PMA nad Hope it's sooo good to hear :D :D

Souris and Becky hi to you 2 x x


kate where are you are you doing okay???


hi to mummy pheonixes MLG and GAIL x x


broc is still keeping us busy...can't do much aroungd the house as he is following me everywhere. I am down in Glasgow Sunday- tuesday for various physio/hospital appointments ( including ivf one on tuesday) and am dreading leaving him. Adam will be popping in from work every 2 hrs but am so worried that it will upsaet the wee mite me not being herre. There is nothing i can do though i have got to get on with life. :cry: Adam and i are going through a sticky patch...nothing i can really put my finger on just seem poles apart at the moment. we have tried talking but i am finding it difficult to put into words how i am feeling. having Broc is actually puting a strain on our relationship too...goes to show that what they say about having a baby increases the pressure on a couple is true. Anyway it's probably just a relationship blip and we will get there . Lucy the wedding stuff is still in the planning stage and we are waiting on the hotel manager/director contacting us but he is off work just now as his dad is very ill in hospital. Hope to get all that sorted out next week. :wink:


Anyway enough of my gripes...have a good wekend everyone...it's meant to snow here :shock: i will catch ya all on wednesday when i am home again.

love jen
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3 IVF's 2005/6 all BFNs
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Hi Girls,

Sorry I've been away for a while. We had a practice Ofsted at school last week, hence loads of planning to do and then we got a phonecall last Friday after the practice to say they were coming in for real this week!! Bloody nightmare...have spent the last week plus planning, planning, planning!!! Thank god its over!!

Anyway, Lucy I'm so sorry to hear about your family. You are right they are being selfish and they need to have more consideration for you and how you feel! DH and myself decided not to tell any family purely because its easier, they can't then accuse us of being 'funny' if we don't show when people are around with babies. I think you need to have time out from them and hopefully they will realise exactly what they are putting you through. Hang in there

Nikki - keep the PMA going only 2 days to go :D

Jen - glad to hear you are having fun with Broc....you can see it as traning for when you get your little one and s/he keeps you up all night!!

Julie- glad to hear that its all go for your FET...about bloody time after the hassel you've had!

Lisa - enjoy the acu, if nothing else it will help you to relax. I go every 2 weeks or so and its time out for me. Its the only time I don't feel guilty for laying down (and sometimes sleeping) and doing nothing!!

Hi to anyone else I've missed - hope you are all A ok!

Kate
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3# FET all BFN 4# BFP - no heartbeat @7wks - about to start the journey again!!
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Post by Julie2039 »

Mega quick post......

Just to clarify as think I misled you all....DH sperm is being transferred to our clinic next week (not FET) and I am hoping they will accept me when AF comes to start my injections.... I am at the very beginning of it all but glad all the same!!

Will do personals tomorrow. NIKKI/LIS thinking of you both - PMA PMA PMA xxxx
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Post by NickiMark »

Julie, honey i did miss read that, but then i re read it and got what you mean!!
Good luck, not long for you to wait.

Lisa any thing good happening yet with your 2ww?? how was the acu??

Kate, great to hear from ya, hope u have agood w/end

Lucy, I know what u mean about family's a pain the arse huh??

Jen, have a good few days away, and yes by the time you get back I may have a BFP, will test sunday morning......
Still have AF pains ( only light pains, and did have a brown smudge this morning, but nothing since) May be its inplantation!!!

My friend who is 13wks Preg now (naturally) said that on the day her period was due she had bleeding, but very light blood, this went on for 4 days and then he thought this aint right and tested BFP. So she said if she wasnt trying she wouldnt have even thought she was preg an then it would have been another 4weeks before she'd of known she was preg.
So parhaps just maybe its not AF.....

Dont worry i'll keep ya posted xxx
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Hi Everyone

I just want to say I am sorry - I congratulated Lola on her BFP, only I read the thread wrong and thougth it was Lola Jones.... Lola I am sorry for my insensativity.....

Jen thanks for bringing that up....
I will post again tomorrow
Me 26, DP 36. 1st IVF - June 05 - +ve - m/c at 5 wks
2nd IVF - Nov 05 - +ve - m/c at 8.5 weeks
3rd IVF -May 06 - BFN
4th IVF - Oct 06 -BFN
5th IVF - May 07 - BFN
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Post by jen babes »

Hi Pheonixes
HAPPY WEEKEND-ING


KATE honey sounds like you have had one hellova week!!!! bet your so glad thats over and the weekend is here! ENJOY! Have a bottle of wine on me!!!! :D :D


Julie- OOOOoooooppps...I got that one wrong...so let me get it straight step 1...DH sperm is going to the clinic (NHS!!??) step2...awaiting your next AF. step 3 ...if clinic is A okay you'll start a fresh icsi cycle ???? therefore sstraight to stimming ( like a short cycle) or down regging first then stimming after next AF???? Sorry if i am a bit thick here :roll: I do need a reminder!!!

Nicki- hang in there...hoping the smudges are just implantation/bit of pre af flow. On my 2nd preg i too bled for 3 days and didn't think i was preg but tested pos 3 days later...Fingers x x for you and Mark x x


Lisa How are you doing with 2ww? when is test date????

Lucy Don't worry about it...Lola jones ( i think ) was going thru tmt too...so it was easy to get the LOLA's mixed up. Hope you have a good relaxing weekeend

Hi to our preg pheonixes & anyone i have misssed

Just a quicky as i am off to Glasgow ths afternon until wednesday...adam and i had a long talk last night and we both got a lot of built up emotions off our chests... I was really upset about lots of stuff but mainly i feel quiet alone here at the moment. I know i will get out and about more when Broc gets his last inj ( 10 days )...but just now i feel pretty housebound. At least i will be in Glasgow over the next few days meeting up with friends and family as well as hosp appointments. it will be good to know if and when we start our next tmt!
On a better note...you would be proud of me girls...I was at a neighbours jewelery party last night for an hour or so and ended up sitting beside a 8 half month preg woman. The whole crowd had kids and spoke mostly of giving birth and kids having problem sleeps...It was hard but i did join in laughing that Broc had me up at 5 in the morning too! I did good girls !!!!
I do so wish could have ta preg belly like that...although Debra herself was so pissed off being so pregnant. She felt so out of the company she said she hated not being her own self...just a baby growing mum!!!! And here was me silently thinking and wishing i had a preg tummy like hers!
Why do we always think the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence!!!!

Anyway on that not i wish you all a happy weekend and will catch ya all wednesday

love jen
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[b]2 natural preg,both ectopics.
3 IVF's 2005/6 all BFNs
4th Nov07- BFP! lost @ 5wks 6d
5th FET-Feb08 BFN
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BFN and AF is here good and proper.... :cry:
TTC 6yrs......Have jumped off the rollercoaster for now, too many BFN's and too much heartache, to keep going....Moving on to fulfil other dreams!!!
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Nicki, I am so very sorry to read your news. Big hug to you and Dh
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04/ 05 ICSI -tive 02/06 ICSI. No fertilisation
09/ 06 ICSI. BFP!!! M/C at 12 weeks.04/07 ? ICSI -tive
04/08 ICSI BFP!!! M/C at 12 weeks
Feb 09 6th ICSI has started! neg
June 09 7th ICSI. Please make it happen!!
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dont know what to think. dh thinks we should just stop trying now and except it, i think ivf might bring us joy.....Really dont know, but what ever happens we wont be iui next month or Dec, so the earliest iui will be Jan now.
Will spk to my clinic about ivf for 2007, then i think after that we should call it a day, emotionally this is doing my head in and soon the money will run out :cry:
TTC 6yrs......Have jumped off the rollercoaster for now, too many BFN's and too much heartache, to keep going....Moving on to fulfil other dreams!!!
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Nicki I've mailed you (at home address). Oh Nicki I really am truly upset for you and dh because we are sooo in the same boat and already I have had the same conversation with dh. Its one of these things that's best mulled over in the next month or so when you are having time off tmt. At the moment everything is too raw and painful to make any decisions but why not make some enquiries anyway about ivf?? It may make your decision easier to reach and male you feel a wee bit more in control.

Lucy - I am so sorry I forgot to include you in my last message, please forgive me. I am sorry you are going through such a hard time right now. I think I missed the post about your family but it is rotten if they are being so insensitive to your feelings. Sometimes you just wish one of them had to go through what we are going through so that they would really understand what it is truly like. Take care of youself hun, big hugs

Julie - thing are really starting to move, that's so exciting.For once you will be hoping AF hurries up and arrives :o Keep us posted.

Kate - you are one busy lady but just think long holiday coming up over Christmas for you :D

Jen - honey I am so sorry you too are having a bit of a time of it. I think you have been through so much in the last year with tmt, health, moving away etc so remember it is only natural to be feeling a bit down / isolated. Try go easy on yourself, you are doing great! And you did so well at that jewellery party, that must have been so hard but you did it! Give yourself a big pat on the back :) You are such a support on here to all of us, we are blessed to have you :wink: Big hugs to you too

Hi to our resident mums to be MLG and Gail

Well i was a bit disappointed the other day because I didn't get acu, instead I got a moxa treatment where they burn this cigar type thing around your feet which supposedly helps implantation and she put a needle in my head to "lift everything up" (?) I think acu is only done prior to tmt not in 2ww but that wasn't clear last week! So if I am cycling again I will def go for acu. I am half way through 2ww and feeling both pessimistic and yet cautiously optimistic at the same time :!: I am having next month off if this doesn't work beacuse emotionally I feel wrung out half the time. It is extremely difficult going through this every month - it feels as if I am on 2ww constantly because I only get about 11 days after BFN before I start bloods again and every month it is getting harder to pick ourselves up and be positive. However I have been walking loads, getting to bed early, cooking good wholesome dinners and practising visualisation ! so I physically can't do anymore - the rest is up to mother nature.

Well I'm off to cook a spag bog as neighbours coming over for sunday lunch complete with our godson and his 7 yr old sister. Think the boys are going to the pub to watch the footie - typical!

Speak to you all soon xxx
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6th DI Jan '07 ...... finally ..... OMG BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nikki - So sorry to hear your news hun. Big luvs coming your way. xxx
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Hi Girls

JEN- You are correct. Frozen sperm being transferred to NHS today, I wait for AF then ring to see if accepted and then I downreg and then stim. My AF is due tomorrow but I have had bad cramps since Fri and a show on Saturday and then nothing!!!!!! Not gone longer than 26 days for 18 months....Teach me for getting excited/worked up!! Hopefully vcan ring tomorrow. Well done for Friday!!!! Hope you are feeling better too. Like you say when you can walk your darling round the park you will feel so much better.

LIS - Sorry you were a bit disappointed with appointment. Not heard of that before!!!! Everything crossed it works for you. Hope sunday lunch went well. Sending you lodsa PMA and hugs x

NIKKI - Hope you and DH are ok x

LUCY - How are you feeling? Hope not too upset about the family thing. They have NO IDEA and can be insensitive but sure they dont mean to be. I was in a state on Saturday and my sister had a right go at me for being "soft" because she put it down to me having a bad period!!!! ARRRGGGGHHHHH. She was very insensitive but know deep down it isn't how she really feels. Hope you are ok xx

Hi to everyone else xxxxx
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ICSI - Canc 01/07
FET 04/07 - BFP!!!
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