February Has My Heart - February Cycle Buddies Wanted

[souris]

Hello guys,

Happy to meet again Jemma, Nims (well, would be better in others circumstances...) and all the new Feb buddies!!

Charity, we have 4 Dh's straws in the freezer... and no, he will not go through another operation!!! He done it twice already poor thing. Took me 3 years to get him to do the first, then he decided on the 2nd but he was VERY clear that it would be the last. Anyway I would not ask him to do it again, even if we needed it, as it is not good for him and I rather have no baby and DH alive (risks of testicular cancer...)

Maldives! I am surprises you never heard of it! But yes, it looks soooo nice and romantic, we want one of those lagoons villa, on the top of the water!! It is very expansive though (1500£ per person if we are reasonable) so it will be THE dream vacation! And it is only for 6 days /5 nights!! ANyway, we are not there yet, and every single time we tried to go on holidays for the past 5 years, it never worked!! So I dont want to get too excited for those ones, as most probably it wont work out!!
ANd also that would be my dream, natural baby will not happen for us (or Dh wont be very happy) as Dh has a vasectomy..

Nimble, I do hope that the holidays will do the trick for you ! Malaysia sounds beautiful, we actually thought of going there, but the choice is hard, so many lovely places to see!

Charity, your dork story made me laugh so much!!! I cant wait for Dh to get back so I can teach him something!!

Nimble, did you have a hard time with your D&C?? Every day seems to get worse for me... 3 days ago I realised I had milk... and yesterday, I had horrible cramps and by the time I got to the loo, I was full of blood, I mean a LOT of blood everywhere, and then I passed a big chunk/lump of womb tissues (Dh, came into the loo when he heard me kind of crying and said it looked like a huge liver... ) and after that, I passed a big blood clot (which I though was remains of my baby, as it looked so much like a foetus..). And you can call me crazy, because I took it to my doc, because if it was indeed remains of my baby, I could not bring myself to put it down the loo or in the bin. But she said it was not, so big relief...
But I do think I am going mad sometimes, and I hope it will all be over soon as I dont know if I can keep sane for long...

So sorry if the details are a bit gross...

Ok I better go before my post gets longer that Charity ones!!!

Love to all
xxx
souris

[bigwhitehapydog@aol.com]

Hi Jemma, I saw your ticker and that you're losing weight as well. Did you clinic make you do this, or is it something you have chosen to do on your own? Are you on a specific diet? I too have to lose before my next cycle. They want me to lose 30 by Feb 1st. I actually must lose 16 by the date of my retrieval to go under anesthesia, which should be no problem, but 30 UGH! I think I will starve for the next 2 months. You'll find me in the gym every night from here to Feb. GOOD GRIEF! I would welcome any suggestions ANYONE has to get this weight off. I'm desperate, and willing to starve to get this baby. If they think it will lower the ovary so they can get to the right one this time, it's worth it. HEEELLLLP!

[nimble]

hey charity, it seems we will be waddling together when we have a massive high dose of drugs, imagine what people will think !!

So if you unexplained IVF too, how come yr doing ICSI ? sorry to ask... This is our first time doing it and hoping that it would improve our chances. We only got 6 eggs and only 2 fert. We received a copy of a letter today that our Re sent to my DRs. He said that my 6 eggs were mature - does that mean that they were over done?? Also having some bw down for lupus anitcoagulant and anticardiolipin antibodes - this is to rule out any problems that may cause me to m/c again. Souris, it may be worth checking to see if your clinic checks for this too.

Souris - it does seem that you are having a bad time since your D&C, really sorry to hear. You were further gone than I was but I did suffer in the first week quite a lot of clots and I just kept wearing panty liners until i knew that I was totally safe to go w/out. I don't know what they exactly do with a D&C and really don't want to know, however I think they just remove the sac contain the fetus so therefore you will be left with the lining so at some point you need to lose it. Hopefully you should stop soon. I found it a lot easier to move on when I stopped having all the physical symptons.

I pray that your holiday comes to something, theres nothing worse than planning and never getting anywhere. Maldives is one place that I would love to go, just never got round to it! As a tip, its always worth contacting hotels direct, sometimes you get better deals than going through an agent.

I totally love the far east especially Thailand but thought we would try Langkawi this time, been before and have to agree with you that the people are absolutely fab. They are so warm and welcoming and nothing is too much trouble. By the way, if you think I some sort of mega rich person, I'm not, just lucky enough to work for an airline and get super good deals at hotels.

Janice I read on the dec/jan posts about yr need to lose weight - keep positive and take it easy at that gym...don't go mad, make sure you stay healthy, dont want you getting ill. wish there was some easy solution to help but it seems that you have a great attitude and a positive mind. Keep us posted on how you are doing, we can keep you motivated. You know you can do it...go girl go......

Hey charity - meant to say, where's your piccie on myspace....??? Done what you have suggested and see if I get any more propositions! Been off the single scene far too long and really don't know how to respond anymore to some of the msgs!

Right now going to have a go at making my site a little more glam
night all
nimble xx

[Charity]

Janice...I wouldn't normally recommend this, but I had been on Phentermine as a maintenance program. My OB/GYN thought it interfered with my cycles and was making my luteal phase shorter, as I had been on for years, so I am off it for the moment. (Plan on going back on as soon as we either find out there's no hope or after we have our baby). My sister went on it about 18 months ago, and she lost tons. I know it has a really good immediate affect, but does wear off a bit as you've been on it longer. My brother took some of my leftover ones and he's very impressed with it. It is by presription only, but I think it could help you. Also, since they're manipulating our cycles anyway, I don't think being on it for a short time just to get your weight down would have any affect. I love being on it, as I've never been able to maintain any weight in my entire adult life until I went on it. Possibility of a little help...?? Take care, and good luck with it all...

[Charity]

Jemma...Thanks so much for your well wishes. I'll take all the PMA & support I can get. I hope the same for you. BFP BFP BFP!! You're getting to be such an expert on this stuff by asking all the right questions, that I know you'll be able to help so many of us on our journey. I'm still visiting on the Dec/Jan thread, so I'll be keeping my eye out for your BFP!

Souris…I’m so sorry you’re having such a time of it with the D&C. I agree with Nims. It’s hard enough, but the physical reminder and discomfort just makes things worse. You hang in there, and I know you’re in contact with your doctor, so I’m not going to remind you to take care of yourself physically. Just emotionally…

Janice…Sorry my post earlier was so brief!! Can you imagine?! I had a brief post! I’m so proud of myself…I’m really trying to keep them down…I do hope you’re not too hard on yourself over the next few months. Like I tell my husband, it took me quite a while to put these pounds on, so it’s going to take me at least as long to take them off. Not that he asks. He’s actually really great, but he worries about our health for the future. Also, my level of activity has decreased, so he just wants me to be healthy. Anyway, you do what you can, but don’t overdo it. K? K!

Nims... Yeah! A waddle buddy! Just what I always wanted! You had asked about the reason we did ICSI before we knew there were issues is because our clinic uses ICSI more as a preventative measure versus necessity. Just to increase all our chances for success. Now, our RE is actually recommending we not do ICSI, and try to let his guys do their number on their own. You asked what “mature” meant on your chart. It means that your eggs were at the perfect stage. They were in the metaphase II (MII) stage of maturation, which is usually identified by the presence of a single polar body. This is reached 37 hours after the onset of the LH surge. Three of mine were in anaphase I, six were in telophase I, and the remaining six were in metaphase II. So, we’re using the different protocol to get a ton more in MII. I’m torn whether we should still do some with ICSI, though. I still want to talk to the doctor a little more about that one. We’ll see. You also asked about my piccie...We have two digital cameras here at my house, but I honestly haven't dug one out to get a pic. I am totally an idiot with how to make myspace look spiffy. Maybe you can help me? I know Jeck's looks great, and few other ladies are all decked out, but I haven't had the time yet to figure out all the HTML code yet. Don't even know where to enter them yet. I'll figure it out one of these days. If not, I'll be calling on your expertise. Hope you don't mind..?

Here I go again making a long post. Sorry ladies…I’ll leave you to reading a lot more interesting people than I. You take care, and I’m thinking of you all. Later Gators!

[jeck]

Hey Charity!!

Thanks for the nice comments about myspace but I can't take all the credit! You can google a search for myspace layouts/backgrounds and copy and paste the code into the about me: space in the edit profile page. Now that I told you my tip for the day, you can do all my write ups on my myspace page!! Ok great thanks!!!

[bigwhitehapydog@aol.com]

Charity, They did put me on the phentermine. I started it yesterday, which is why I think it's 2:34 in the morning and I'm wide awake. I just grabbed a glass of wine to see if it will mellow me out so I can go to sleep. I have a hard time taking stuff like this. I even dumped a little of it out because the whole thing kept me awake all night when I tried it on my last cycle Oct/Nov. I started on bontril, took that for two days and said FORGET IT. I was still awake at 4 in the morning on that stuff. I take the phentermine at 7 a.m., and here I am still awake. I did go to sleep about 12, slept for maybe an hour and then woke up again. Will this get better? I can't go without sleep. UGH! I did take the phentermine for a couple months several years ago, and don't remember it keeping me up like this. God, I need to go to sleep. I have to work tomorrow. UGH!

[Charity]

Janice...It does get better. I had the same reaction as you. I was up for 4 nights. I found myself painting the kitchen at 4am one evening, and thought "This is nuts!". After the third night I called the doctor. His nurse had talked to me and said that she had been on it too, and if I was still having issues the next evening, to call. She personally had the same thing too. I know sleep is very much affected by it, but it also gave me so much energy (once I was able to get a fair amount of sleep, say 6 hours a night), that the reduced sleep didn't seem to have a huge impact. I feel what you're going through right now. It might help to split the tablet and take half every 12 hours. I know exactly what you're going through, and this sucks that you have to do this for your baby! Is there another doctor or clinic you can go to? Or maybe you could find your own anethesiologiest that your clinic would agree to allow you to use? I'm not thin, by any means, and they have never mentioned weight being an issue. I just think this is a malpractice insurance issue for your clinic. As far as I'm concerned, it is far more destructive to make a mom try to starve herself to have her dream come true, then to take a very minor risk associated with anesthesia. To me, what they're asking you to do (30 lbs. in 2 mos.) is malpractice! I'm getting madder the more I think of what you're going through. If there's anything I can do to help, Janice, please let me know. I had taken Wellbutrin in combination with phentermine, and I immediately lost 14 pounds. It helps curb obsessive tendencies and carbohydrate cravings. There are a few studies on it, but not widely used as of yet. Again, I hate to recommend drugs for a mommy-to-be, but your situation is a bit extreme, so sometimes extreme measures are necessary. I better get my butt moving. We've got SNOW coming down very heavy, and traffic is moving on the interstate at less then 30 MPH, so it's going to take me quite a while to make it in to work. My dh called called to let me know he was safe. Such a sweetie worrying about me worrying about him. Take care, and try to get some sleep tonight dear. Later Gator.

[bigwhitehapydog@aol.com]

Charity, Thanks so much for everything. I think the 30lbs is excessive as well. Last cycle Oct/Nov, I only had to lose 10. Then they said they lowered the BMI, and now I have to lose a minimum of 16, but they want me to lose 30. UGH! This morning when I took the phentermine I broke the capsule in half and dumped out half of the medicine. Yesterday I only dumped out 1/4, so maybe this will help. Yesterday, I pretty much starved. I ate 2 scrambled egg whites for breakfast, a plain turkey sandwich for lunch, an apple for snack, and one tiny little piece of pork tenderloin with some broccolli for dinner. Then I went on a 40 minute brisk walk. I'M GONNA DIE! The night before I did 45 minutes on the eliptical at the gym. I can barely move a muscle today. HEE HEE!!! I will ask about the Welbutrin, I did hear it's good. I take Zoloft right now, for panic attacks, but I hear the Welbutrin is safer in pregnancy than the zoloft, so I was going to ask about it anyway. Anyone know about this????I see my regular family Dr. on the 11th, cause I wanted to talk to him about my meds (I have asthma as well) I want to make sure they are all safe in case I get pregnant. If ever..... SNOW..... How wonderful. I grew up in CT, where we had snow. now I live in VA near the beach where we don't. I really miss it. I would give about anything for a good snow storm. Enjoy it for me. It's such a nice time of year for it. Puts you in the XMAS mood.

Girls, I would love to hear from anyone that is having the weight issues at their clinic, and any advice or what they are doing. My clinic is very strict on the weight with IVF due to going under anesthesia. Has anyone else come across this????

[Jen1d]

Wow i go away for a couple of days and there are so many of you now. It's great, there will be so many of us around to help with all the PMA come Feb

Well since my neg hpt i have been ok although this morning me and dh watched this weeks A Child against all Odds and i had a good blubber at the end of it. Still not as tough and ready to move on as i though.

My friend from London rang and her new boyfriend is a medium. Ok yes i know but he offered to talk to me over the phone and although i felt a bit of an idiot and was nervous i agreed. I was amazed--he told me loads of things but the best was that i will be a mum but its going to be a long road and before it happens i must start taking things slower and relax. He told me things about my Gran and myself, which were true and about dh and his lack of diy skills. I couldn't believe my ears and i have never met him and my friend does not know anything about my family. Weird eh but i will try anything. He then said at the end that i will have a son and my mum was told this by another medium a year ago---hope they are all right.

We have friends coming up from England today, our bestman and my friend who i worked with in Italy, they got together at my hen night so there is a lot of chatting and drinking to be done this weekend. Just what the Doc ordered before Feb. Then i will be joining the dieting girls.

Will catch up with you when my visitors go on Sunday

Love Jen x

[bigwhitehapydog@aol.com]

Jen, Welcome to the dieting club. Have a wonderful weekend first!

[Charity]

Okay Jessica...I've finally posted my pic and check out my fancy schmancy background on myspace. Not bad for a complete idiot. Thanks so much for the tip. I even added music!! Impressed?

Jen...Sorry for being so long winded. Didn't mean to cause you to have too much reading. I'm so glad you had a great reading! That's so eerie that he knew as much as he did, and to get the positive on having a +ve on a HPT in the future is so awesome. The best reading ever!! Reminds me of my mom. She got out a crystal on a chain that she says if she asks it questions, it will start to move forward and back for Yes, and side to side for No. She's such a nut-job! I love her though. She said I'd be pg before August with a boy.

Well, she's obviously no medium, and I think that was more her wishful thinking than a premonition. She’s ready to be a granny again…Okay. It’s more like she’s desperate to be a granny again! I love her enthusiasm and encouragement, but some days it’s hard knowing how much she wants this, too. I feel like we’re not just disappointing ourselves, but our families too. They’re really being great though. My poor mom can’t understand infertility since she just looked at my dad and was pg. She had 9 kids! Jessica…That could be you! Your baby coming this next year and 8 frosties!!

The snow was unbelievable. Our business NEVER cancels work, and they did today. I didn’t find out until I had tracked through the blizzard to get there. I picked up a coworker on the way in who had driven her car off the road. After getting back into town and knowing I was safe, it was great. You’re right Janice…It really is so pretty, and does get you into the Christmas spirit. My hubby, who had to work all day and then come home to snow blow and shovel, might disagree. I tried to start the snow blower, but he never taught me how to operate it. I was really close, but overlooked the choke and the fuel!! Other than that, I would have had her started. That’s okay, cause I used that time and went down to my mom’s and dug her out and we went for a nice lunch.

Well, I’ve done it again…I’m stopping right here. You all have a great night, and if you don’t have a chance to make it back tomorrow, have a great weekend ladies. Later Gators!!

[souris]

Hello girlies!!

Nims, how cool is that, to work for an airline!! I hope you really take advantage and have some great vacations/ or little breaks!
My bleeding is getting better so hopefully It will stop soon, but I seem to get more and more milk, am waiting another week and if it does not stop, I will take the meds. About twice a day I "leak" and it is heartbreaking everytime...

Jessica, Jen, I also would like to loose weight. I would like to do it for me, not because the IVF clinic asks for it. I am a little bit overweight and I have put on some weight after each cycle and I cant seem to be able to loose it... I am 1m55 and 63 kg ( I am completely lost with the pounds and ounce and stones!!) So that's makes me rather short and chubby!!
I am starting sports again, trying to play tennis with Dh every week, and will try to go swimming everyday. I already eat very healhty and cannot eat less neither, so I am hoping that the sports will help!
Good luck with you girls!

Dh and I just came back from Bab Al shams, an oasis in the desert. We stayed for the night, had a fun camel ride. But our week end was a bit spoiled because it rained!!! Which is very unusual here !! ( we are in Dubai). But anyway, was nice and relax just to be the 2 of us.

I put my xmas tree today, it might be a bit early no?? It is the first time I would like x mas to be over quickly. I dont mean to be horrible, but Dh 3 youngest kids are gonna be here with us for 2 weeks. But Dh will be working so I will have to look after them, and although they are not babies anymore( 10;14;18), they dont help around the house and always fight. And of course I will have to pretend that I am happy but I know that the miscarriage thoughts will haunt me...

So cannot wait for the new year, hopefully some nice holidays and then a new cycle! The only thing is that I will have to be away from DH, again and that's makes me sad...

Charity, Jen, I hope that your medium (mum!) are right!!

Have a nice week end all
Take care
xxx
souris

[souris]

Hello girlies!

where are you all?? it is very quiet here!

Not many news for me.

I contacted the local RSPCA to be a foster home for 1 or 2 cats until mid Jan. I did not bring my cat with me, because being pregnant and not immune for toxoplasmosis I did not wanted to take any risks. But know I miss her so much (she is at my sis) that I decided to foster abandonned cats until I get her back.

I also volunteered to work at the K9 shelter, as I am not working and cannot really look for work as I will go back to France in Feb for my next treatement, and I cannot stand to be home all day anymore. I cannot wait to start, to keep my head busy!!

That's all really
Tomorrow is Dh's daughter 18 th birthday and she wants to go bowling.

Hope everyone is well!
xxx
souris

[Charity]

Souris...I'm here, but have monopolized so much space, I thought I better shut-up for a while and let others get a word in edge-wise...Instead, I was abandoned... I've been moved to a faint memory on the Dec/Jan board, and no one here in February. I'm feeling very lonely...That is, except for you, girly girl...

I looked up the hotel you talked about in your post from the other day. It looks heavenly. Too bad for the rain...I'm sorry you miss your kitty, too...I so wanted to get a puppy for my birthday, but dad (dh ) said no...Not until the baby situation is sorted. It's good that you can give of yourself by helping the abandoned cats, and at the K9 shelter. It's good to take the focus off of this whole IVF ordeal and realize there are so many other ways we can give of ourselves...At least in the meantime...I hope you find it therapeutic.

Not too much going on for me either. Spent Friday getting through all the snow we got. The weather man is talking about more today and tomorrow. I love it, but then we usually go into a deep freeze, and that's the part I could do without. My skin just can't take the dry weather. Spent a bit of time this weekend dressing-up my "myspace" site. That was kind of fun. Also checking out some of the other ladies' sites. I actually learned a lot on how to do some of the more technical things. I was surprised how easy it actually was...

My 3 year wedding anniversay is in two days. I can hardly believe it. The time is just flying by too fast. That's good for our IVF turn to hurry up and get here, but I would love my biological one to slow down. Wish your step-daughter happy b-day for me, and have fun bowling...It will be a good distracter, for a few hours anyway. Stay busy kiddo, and will talk to you soon...