Anyone else at the ARGC?

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 4:25 pm

Hi, just reading your posts and wanted to wish you all the best of luck. It amused me to read that my DH's accident had stuck in your minds, I'll have to tell him he is famous! Hope everything goes well for you all Lots of love Kat xx

luce · Post by **luce** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:46 am

Morning girls Got back from Weymouth St earlier where we had 3 blasts transferred. 1 was looking really good, 1 looked ok and 1 we felt sorry for so had him put in too, as I don't like to think of the alternative. We're testing on 29th October. Waaaaahhhhhhhhhh. Am pleased we took the gamble and went for 5 day transfer as one of our 3 day 8 cells was looking distinctly screwy today!! Now it's rest, rest, rest....and thankfully no gestone this time - just twice daily heparin, ritodrine, aspirin, dexamethasone, cyclogest and bromocryptine. We're keeping Boots in business! Backy, good luck on Monday. Hope the stabbing is going OK. Love Luce xxx

beckym · Post by **beckym** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:31 pm

Hi guys Kat- hope I didn't offend you re your dh. Is he ok now? Mine is out of hospital now but still a bit delicate so is off work next week. Are you at ARGC as well? Luce- wow, your blastos sound good. Interesting re the 3 day 8 cell one - was that one of the best ones at 3 days then? Did you do blasto in the last 2 cycles or was this the first time? At my last clinic although we had 27 eggs and 13 embies we only has 2 that got to 4-cell at 3 days and we weren't even offered blasto. Either my eggs are duff or the embryologist wasn't much good. I suspect when they overstimulate you as they did with me, that it's quantity not quality unfortunately. You rest up now. Has Mr T told you to rest in bed or are you allowed to be fairly mobile? Lots of drugs to take!!! Is this what he recommends for everyone? sorry about all the questions! beckym xxx

Kat · Post by **Kat** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 2:49 pm

Becky, don't be daft of course I'm not offended, I think it's funny it stuck in your mind. He had about 6 months off work, in a collar 24/7 but he's fine now and back working full time now which is good because he's not a good patient! Glad to hear yours is doing OK. I am not at ARGC but at Queen Mary's Roehampton, just nosing in on your thread! Lots of love Kat xx

Amanda A · Post by **Amanda A** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 3:03 pm

Hi everyone, Well done Luce, sounds that all went really well for you. I wonder as it will be my 3rd time if they will suggest blastos with me too. Make sure you take it easy now! It's really funny that you say that you love the days between EC & ET, because for me they are the worse bit. I think it's because we don't get that many eggs and I am fraught with anxiey over if they will fertilise and what quality the embryo's will be. I absolutely hate waiting for the clinic to call me with updates on them, I am always at my wits end!! Becky, I am afraid to tell you that Mr T is big on drugs! You are likley to be popping pills/injecting at 4 hourly intervals throughout the day - well I was anyway (you may get off more lightly)! Really glad that your first scan & BT was o.k. Lucy, how come you don't have to do the gestone injections this time? I bet that I will!! What' bromocryptine, don't think I took that one last time? Alison, wishing you all the luck in the world for this go. I can't see me ever switching from the ARGC, what I like is that with each failed attempt, Mr T has tried something different. If it's not too personal to ask, how did you make the decision that this would be your last go? Dawn, I remember your name from my last cycles, how are things with you? Kat, Your old post re your DH's accident is responsible for me saying to my DH nearly everyday, 'now drive carefully won't you'!! Love to all & Becky will check the site Monday pm to see what you are up to on Tues. Rach X

Alison · Post by **Alison** » Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:57 pm

Hi again - AF did turn up so went in for blood tests Friday which were fine, but had a scan yesterday which showed a follicle where there shouldn't have been a follicle, so I'm on the down reg injections for 10 days and then back on 28 October to see what's going on. So hoping to be at e/c/e/t sometime in mid November. Rach - don't mind you asking at all about deciding this'll be our last go. Lots of reasons really, but I s'pose can be summed up by needing to leave this awful limbo-land we're currently living in, and move on with my life one way or the other. There are some posts on the "life after IVF" bit of the board about deciding when to stop, and lots of that is true for me. But as I've said there, I'm also hoping for the fairytale ending where we succeed on our final go!! Love to all Alison x

luce · Post by **luce** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:49 am

Hi again Becky - yes, my screwy 8 cell one was one of the best on day 3, so it was right to wait. I haven't had a 5 day transfer before because I have never had enough embies before to give it a go - got 4 the first time and 6 the 2nd and on day 3 they didn't think they were good enough to go for it. ARGC will do what they think is best in each case depending on the number and quality, so don't worry. All the embryologists there are fabulous and will set your mind at rest. As for the meds, well, like Rachael says, Mr T is hot on them post et. I'm not sure what you're on right now, but he will always put you on progesterone (either cyclogest or gestone injections) and ritodrine (which gives you the shakes about 30 mins after taking it but is otherwise ok). All my other drugs are cos I have elevated antiphospholipid levels and prolactin, so you may not get them. Rachael - I haven't enjoyed the days between ec and et as much as this before....the first time we only had 6 eggs and it was a nightmare waiting for those calls to find out how they did. The 2nd time was much the same. But this time, esp as we knew on the 2nd day that we were likely to have a 5 day transfer, it was liberating to have that time off - and to be able to have a glass of wine! Don't know how we managed to avoid the gestone this time, but we are both relieved that we have! Alison - I completely agree with your reasons for this being your last go, as this is ours too, for exactly the same reasons. I am going to go to the life after IVF board to check it out. But again, we are hoping for the fairytale ending too! Good luck all!! Love Luce xx

beckym · Post by **beckym** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:22 pm

Hi everyone. Rachael - went for my blood test today which is fine but as I expected, they want me back in tomorrow for scans and a blood test so will be able to meet you for decaf coffee/hot chocolate! I was planning to get there for about 10:30ish as I take the first off-peak train I can. Will you be there around this time or do you need to go there earlier? I have longish blonde hair and I'll be wearing a long dark grey coat!!! Alison - sorry to hear that your down-regging has been delayed - same thing happened to me except I had 3 follicles!!! typical isn't it? Did they give you the Profasi injection and the Provera tablets to bring on another af? Kat - glad to hear your dh is ok now. mine is spending the day in bed resting as he overdid it at the weekend! beckymxxx Luce - think you did the right thing going for blastocyst - one of our OCB's has just had a +ve on her first cycle from blastocyst. Take good care of yourself now.

Amanda A · Post by **Amanda A** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 5:16 pm

Hi Everyone, This is a really quick post as I need to get on with the dinner! A womens work is .......etc. etc!! Becky, I think I may well be there around the same time tomorrow. I am about 5ft 7ins, have short dark blondeish hair and I don't know which coat I will be wearing yet!! Will look out for you! Thanks for answering my question Alison, I can totally understand your point of view and lucy's, I am very much of the same opinion but am praying that you both get what you want this time. 2 questions for you all, 1) How do you cope if your DH gets down? Mine seems really low at the moment and I know that we cannot expect them to be a rock all the time as it affects them too but I really need him to be telling me that it will all be o.k. at the moment. 2) Does anyone else find that all these drugs play havoc with their skin? I have spots like I did when I was a teenager!! Anyone else? Take Care, Rach X

beckym · Post by **beckym** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 8:54 pm

Hi Rach I will look out for you tomorrow. Re your questions - sorry your dh is feeling down. my dh is normally very supportive about it but he did get down when I got OHSS as I think he was scared something would happen to me. I think I am generally more negative than he is actually, but I know what you mean about needing support at the moment - I really missed it when dh was in hospital. Re the skin - strangely enough my skin has got better on the suprecur!! this happened last time as well. odd isn't it? beckym xx

beckym · Post by **beckym** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 3:53 pm

Hi rach - looked out for you but don't think you were there at the same time - I was there between 10:35 and 11:00. I had a long stripey scarf on. Did ask one girl if she was you! Poked my head into the waiting room at the end but no-one fitted your description. Had my scan with Mr T who said my follies were doing fine - I was a bit alarmed to see there were already about 8 there and am only on day 5 today but he keeps on assuring my that they are monitoring me very closely to make sure I don't get OHSS so I guess I should relax. am back up for bloods only tomorrow and will have bloods every day until ec! beckym xxx

Amanda A · Post by **Amanda A** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 4:37 pm

Hi Becky, It's a shame that we missed each other today. I got there a bit earlier than I expected, about 10.15am and then I went up to see Mr Gorgy really quickly, so I wasn't in the waiting room for long. They sent me off for a BT after my scan and then I had to go back again to pick up all my injecting stuff. I had a look in the waiting room again before I left but I reckon you were having your scan then. Mr G said that all looked o.k. and I have had my phone call saying that I can start injecting tonight! Sat on the train back home dreaming about holding my little baby and then telling myself not to dream, too dangerous!!! Don't worry about the OHSS, the ARGC will keep such a close eye on you, I am sure that you will be o.k. When I have spoken to people at other clinics they have been amazed at how frequently I have had to go to the clinic whilst injecting, so I am sure that you are at the best place. I am having a day off tomorrow (back in Thurs),and typically my mum & sister are going wedding dress shopping in London! I would love to go with them but I know that it would be really stupid as I will have to be going up everyday after tomorrow anyway. I am sure that we will get to meet up soon. On Thursday I am having a BT only and need to get back home quite quickly but maybe Friday or next week we might catch up with each other. Take Care, Rach XX P.S am sitting here with a facepack on battling the zits!!

beckym · Post by **beckym** » Tue Oct 21, 2003 10:35 pm

Hi rach sorry I missed you today but glad you got the go-ahead to start injecting tonight. you're only a bit behind me then (I'm on day 5 today) so we'll be on the 2ww together. what are you on - Merional? what dose? I am on 225 of merional. hate the new 1 amp syringes. they're so fiddly!! beckym xxx

Amanda A · Post by **Amanda A** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 7:33 pm

Hi Becky, I am on 225 of GonalF. This is easier than the Merional, I had that my first time with the ARGC too. I am back in tomorrow for a BT and to pick up a perscription. Not sure exactly what for but it will def include heparine, which I will need to add into my daily schedule of injecting - oh joy!! I will keep a look out for you again. I expect to be there 10.30am ish maybe a little later, will check the waiting room. Take Care, Rach XX

luce · Post by **luce** » Fri Oct 24, 2003 5:21 am

Hi Becky and Rach (and Alison if you're still popping in whilst downregging) Hope you're both doing OK with the stabbing and daily visits for blood tests. I only had one good vein so by the end my arm was agony!! Rach - I bet your prescription will be dexamethasone and heparin, as that seems to be the latest combination that Mr T favours! Becky - don't worry about OHSS at ARGC. They monitor everyone daily in order to prevent it and I imagine that hardly anyone there ever gets it. I was at high risk as my oestradiol levels shot up towards the end so they coasted me for days in order to reduce the risk. Good luck girls, I'll keep my eye on you. This 2ww is really dragging! Love Luce xx

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