ARGCers nr 2

Amanda A · Post by **Amanda A** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 6:08 pm

Hi Girls, thanks for the messages, they really help and I will try and stay more positive, I know that I must! It is really kind of you both to post when I know that you are going through your own traumas. I really hope that I get to see Weymouth St on Thurs, it sounds nice!! The clinic have said that they won't call tomorrow as not all the info will be back and to be honest, I don't think I will try to contact them either, I get into such a nervous mess when I take/make those calls, I think a day off will be far better for me! Talk soon & take care, Rach XX

beckym · Post by **beckym** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:45 pm

Rachael - just popping in to wish you all the very best for tomorrow. I will light a candle for you tonight. After all, Traci's worked for me! becky xxx

Amanda A · Post by **Amanda A** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:56 pm

Thanks Becky, that's a really nice thought! Talk Soon, love Rach X

Alison · Post by **Alison** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:42 pm

Rachael - just to let you know that I too will be keeping everything crossed for you tomorrow. Much love Alison x

Amanda A · Post by **Amanda A** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:17 am

Thanks Girls, just to let you know that we have been lucky and have 2 to put back today. One at blasto and one just going into blasto apparently. Oh God!!! please keep them safe until we get there this afternoon. Need to go and get myself ready for Mr T now. Thanks for all the positive vibes! Sending lots of love and luck your way, Rach XX

beckym · Post by **beckym** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 11:57 am

phew - that's a relief - and at blasto too - % success rate is much higher if they get to blasto isn't it? am really hoping this is the one for you. looking forward to having you join me on the 2ww!! beckym xxx

Alison · Post by **Alison** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 11:15 pm

Well done Rachael, so pleased for you. Now make sure you keep then tucked up nice and snug! Much love Alison x

beckym · Post by **beckym** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:59 am

Hi Rachael How's the 2ww going for you. I am starting to get bored now as still have 6 days left to go until I test -on Saturday. Not looking forward to that phone call. Luckily no more ohss symptoms and my tummy has gone back down. Have you had any pg symptoms at all? I was nicker checking for any implantation bleed last couple of days but nothing. when do you test? next Sunday? lol. beckym xxx

Amanda A · Post by **Amanda A** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 11:30 am

Hi Becky, Alison and anyone else checking this thread! Thanks for the messages. I test next Sunday, which seems really soon, as they went back on day 5 this time. I have had a couple of days just lying on my bed not doing anything, partly because I still had a bit of discomfort due to EC and partly because Mr T said that they would be implanting within the next 2/3 days and I get too frightened to move! Silly I know but I think if it makes me feel better then do it!! Becky, I am glad that you have no ohss symptoms, the pain that I had was bad enough, so ohss must be really grim. My tummy seems to be going down too, my boobs are slighly bigger, or maybe just firmer(!)but I know that it is the progesterone injections. At the moment we are injecting into my thigh, which means that I have dead legs. This is o.k. as long as I remember but when I wake up in the middle of the night and forget, I nearly fall over trying to get to the loo! When I sopke to Sue at ET on Thurs, she said that you can get a little implantation bleeding if the embryo implants on a vein etc. You certainly don't always get it, I didn't last time anyway. Something that really shocked me on Thurs was that out of the 7 embryos I had, 4 were abnormal and 3 normal. I think it really was a very close call that we made it to ET and it does frighten me that if it doesn't work this time, our chances on another cycle would not be good. However, I am trying not to think ahead all the time (which I am terrible for!) and to stay as positive as possible for this cycle. On this subject, does anyone have any really good relaxation techniques? My body seems to be taken over with anxiety, tight chest and tummy flips and I am worried that this cannot be good for the embryos. Any advice gratefully received! Talk Soon, Lots of Love RachX

beckym · Post by **beckym** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 1:36 pm

Hi rachael Here's a couple of relaxation exercises I have learnt from yoga. best to do them in a quite room with some light calming background music and an aromatherapy candle if you have one: Lie on your bed tummy up and place your right hand on your abdomen and your left hand on your chest. Breathe in deeply through your nose and feel the hand on your abdomen rise as your abdomen fills with air. if the hand on your chest rises you are not breathing deep enough. you need to learn to breathe from your abdomen so that the abdomen rises when you breathe in and lowers when you breathe out. if you pratcice it, it will come. another one is to sit cross-legged on the floor and hold one side of your nostril closed whilst you breathe in through the other nostril. hold the breathe whilst you count to two and then breathe out throught he other nostril whilst keeping the former nostril closed. again count to two on breath out and again after you exhale. repeat swopping nostrils!! practice listening to the breath going in and out of your nose as this focusses the mind on the exercise and away from your worries. deep breathing is one of the best things you can do to release tension and anxiety. practice for 10-15 minutes a day. if at the same time you can visualise in your mind the embies growing healthily this is also an extremely positive thing to do. hope this helps and doesn't sound too new agey!! beckyXXX

Alison · Post by **Alison** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 4:35 pm

Hi girls, glad that the two of you are taking it easy. Rachael, try not to worry about 4 of the embryos being abnomral - the good thing is that they picked the normal ones to put back in, so that must really improve your chances. Had a blood test and scan today (have had to go in for blood tests at least every day since last Saturday so quite fed up of it now!) Anyway, they forgot to call me so had to ring the mobile. Spoke to Mr T who sounded quite fed up at having his Sunday interrupted - can't really blame him but its not my fault they didn't ring! Anyway, he said I might have to have 2 blood tests tomorrow. Did either of you have that? What sort of time did you have to go back in? I've got quite a busy day tomorrow and its going to be difficult to get away. I'm now hoping e/c will be Wednesday or Thursday. Lots of love and luck to you both. Alison x

Amanda A · Post by **Amanda A** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 5:50 pm

Hi there, Becky, thanks for the exercises, I am going to try them in a min! Alison, It gets really exhausting doesn't it. I hope that your EC comes round sooner rather than later. I had to stay around for a repeat bt and I didn't get it until 4.15pm. Basically I had to hang around all day. Sorry, this is probably not what you want to hear but it may help to know in advance. It was a pain that they didn't call you! I expect someone at the clinic might get told off tomorrow morning!! This will make you laugh .......DH bought me a relaxation book a few months back and I haven't really looked at it much until last night when I laid on the bed and made him read out one of the visualization excerises. It said to imagine that I was walking along a country path, with a beautiful forest each side and the sun beating down on me. Sounds nice and relaxing doesn't it? Well, all I could think of was that if I was out walking all on my own in the middle of nowhere someone would come rushing out of the forest and attack me!! Not a very relaxing visualization afterall! There really is no helping me is there!! I think I must have some really serious issues! Take Care & hang on in there, Rach XX

beckym · Post by **beckym** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 6:33 pm

Hi there Alison - I was on threat of repeat BTs for three days in a row and then finally on fourth day they did actually do a repeat at around 4pm ish. Reason was my oestrogen levels were very high and they wanted to be sure they were coming down again before giving me the Profasi injection to avoid ohss. High oestrogen is a good sign as it means you are producing lots of follicles but obviously they want to try and control it. Rachael - I have got a book full of visualization exercises! I sometimes read them to dh when he's in the bath to make him relax after work. He was very dubious about it all at first but he said it definitely worked. I once tried hypnosis (ie went to a hypnotist) which they say works for some but that didn't work for me at all!! I find visualisation when you are in control more helpful. re abnormal embies - I agree with Alison. they picked the normal ones which is important. quite a few of ours were abnormal too. of the three embies which made it to the last day, the third had two nucleii so they didn't put it back in, as they said it would almost certainly m/c. not sure whether the two nucleii meant it would have been siamese twins. bit of a scary thought really. there is no history of twins in our family. anyway, am going kitchen shopping tomorrow as sale on in Homebase. looking forward to having the kitchen revamped as it is in a right state at the moment. no proper floor or cupboards and an ancient oven. my mum's just had a bit of a windfall so she is paying for it which is fab. have a good week. Alison, let us know when your ec is. becky xxx

luce · Post by **luce** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 7:13 am

Hi ladies Just popped in to see how you're all doing. Becky and Rachael - hope you're surviving the 2ww. I'll be on hols when you both test, so I'll have my fingers crossed for you both. Alison - I had 4 days of repeat blood tests (and made it clear that I was sick of them by the end!) Every day they would call about 2pm to tell me to come back and I had to be back in there by about 4.30 at the latest, or they don't have time to review them. Of course, twice it happened at a weekend so I had to have the repeats done at ARGC itself with none of the usual equipment! It seems to be another one of their latest 'things'. I'll keep an eye out for your EC date and I wish you lots and lots of luck! Not much to update you on from me I'm afraid, and anyway, I should post it on the other thread!! Take care Love Lucy xx

Amanda A · Post by **Amanda A** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 12:23 pm

Hi Lucy, Really nice to get your message, we like to speak to you, so don't feel that you should be on the other thread! Where are you going on hols? Love Rach X

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