December-January Cycle Buddy's Our New beginnings

[lara312]

Jayne so sorry to hear this i really hope that they will help sort things out so that it stops happening to you hugs to you and dh we are all here when you need us

Shantala sorry cant help i have never had anything like this sorry hope your clinic gets back to you soon .

Haylie yes will love to meet you tell me when and where and i will be there .

Aunty so good to see you back been missing you

Hugs to everyone
love Rachel x x

[bigwhitehapydog@aol.com]

Jayne, I'm so so sorry. Please know we're all thinking of you.

[ssalgado]

HELLO LADIES!

FIRST- BEACHBABY- I AM SOO SORRY ABOUT YOUR LOST, HOPEFULLY THEY CAN FIND OUT WHAT'S THE PROBLEM.. BE STRONG.. A LOT OF HUGS FOR YOU, TAKE CARE


OK I AM SHOWING MY NEW TICKER SO I AM REALLY BACK , MY NURSE CALL YESTERDAY AND SAID THAT WE ARE IN TRACK, MARCH 10 WILL BE MY US/BASELINE AND FINGERS CROSS FOR THE BEST I HAVE 3 BLASTOCYST BEANIES FROZEN SO WILL SEE WHAT WILL BE TO MY SURPRISE THIS TIME....

SHANTALA -SORRY HUN THAT YOU ARE HAVING PROBLEMS I NEVER EXPERIENCED NOTHING LIKE THAT B-4, HOPING EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT FOR YOU .

YOU CAN UPDATE ME ON THE LIST WITH A FET DATE OF MAR 16.. SO FAR

AUNTY- SO GOOD TO SEE YA BACK ... YOU ARE BACK, RIGHT???

LOVE
SUSETTE

[Ange]

Jayne... I am so sorry to hear that his has happened to you again. Have you considered PGD testing? I did it this round and although my results were not great, we were able to eliminate those that would've resulted in miscarriage. ((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))

Shantala....I never had any clotting with stimms, I'm eager to hear what your RE says.

Susette...So happy you have a plan, helps doesn't it?

Aunty...So nice to see your posts. How are you doing?

As for me, gave blood this am and waiting anxiously for the results of my second beta. Well post as soon as I know.

hugs,
Ange

[ssalgado]

GOOD LUCK ANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOPING IS A HIGH-GOOD ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




THANKS I AM SO EXCITED!! I HAVE MY 3 LITTLE BLASTY BEANIES NEED TO HAVE A GOOD TALK WITH THEM , THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAN THAT THEY NEED TO STICK TO MOMMY NO MATTER WHAT RIGHT? RIGHT!

OK BEANIES MOMMY LOVES U GUYS... BUT WE STILL NEED TO TALK

LOVE
SUSETTE

[CINNY1]

Thanks guys for all of your concerns and asking where I was...well, I was in the Hospital. I had to be hospitalized for OHSS. IF u guys remember, My numbers were really crazy when I was stimming. So it came back hard. I had fluid in my lungs and had to undergo two procedures to get back to semi-normal. My belly is still filled with fluid and it looks really scary! But my doc told me that it would come back if I got pregnant. Guess what, I got pregnant! I found out on 2/20/07 when I was admitted to the hospital. I am still in shock! My last numbers on yesterday were 201. I go to my doc 2morrow for the latest numbers. I continue to ask that u keep us in ur prayers.

Also, my heart goes out to Aunty and SS. I know how disappointing it can be.
Much luv to u all,
Cinny

[smattison]

Ange-

GOOD LUCK!

[beachbaby]

thank you ladies for all your kind words.

Fed congratulations on the twins, we all said your numbers were high.

Fiona, cinny congratulations on your BFP's, hope those numbers keep rising.

Ange, waiting for the confirmation.

Shantala, never had a problem, sorry i can't help, hope the clinic have been in touch and put your mind at rest, are you still bleeding from AF?

Ange, we have thought about PGD, but we were using frosties from my one and only fresh cycle, and my clinic would not do any tests with only one miscarry, i am now waiting to see what tests they carry out, initially they will be on me, luckily in the UK all my tests will be free on the NHS even though i am fee paying on my cycles at the moment, i don't think pgd will be free though. I hope the nurse will be in touch this week about it all. will keep you posted.

Cinny i hope you are feeling better and are on the mend, take care of you and your babies.

To anyone i've missed i'm sorry, hope you are all doing ok.
jayne

[shantala]

hey ladies....

thank you sophie, rachel, ss and ange for your replies - a lovely nurse from the clinic phoned me and said not to worry, the clot is to be expected around now as my oestrogen levels are going up. i told her i'm in quite a lot of discomfort and she said if i can to book the rest of the week off and just rest. so thats what ive done. so you ladies will soon be fed up with me these next few days!! the good thing is it means its all working nicely. now i know what a hen feels like!!

cinny - congratulations hunny!!!!!!! so sorry to hear about your OHSS and your hospital trip. please take care of yourself and your little one!

ange - any news yet??

ss - woohoo, you're back on the nutty train!!

hi to everyone else....hope everything is going well!!

xxx

[shantala]

beachbaby - we must have posted at the same time. no, not still bleeding from AF but as you can see from my post, everything is fine. phew.

how you keepig up?? hugs!!

xx

[lara312]

Cinny congratulations sorry th hear you were hospitilized but in 8 months time it would have all been worth it congrats again

Shantala so glad its nothing to worry about now start resting now you have the rest of the week off .

Susette it wont be long now you have dates i really hope that it all goes well for you

love Rachel x x

[Ange]

Hi Ladies....figured I'd post this info here as well

Well looks like it's official...BFP! Just hung up the phone with the dr. and my number is at 159 from 16 in just 4 days. I'm smiling so much my face hurts. One more blood test on Saturday and then we'll schedule the ultra sound. Thank you so much for all your support and I hope each and every one of you can feel this wonderful feeling soon!

hugs,
Ange

p.s. Shantala for the list betas 7dpt5dt 16
11dpt5dt 159
15dpt5dt ?

[PMApsy]

Hello guys!

I came back from the clinic with a LOT of explanations and info and I was so impatient to share all that with you! My sweet DH left this morning for a convention in San Francisco so I can't share the info with him yet! It's great to have a lot of "someone" to talk to!

So I sat down with my doctor and he reviewed my "cycle history" with me. He told me that, since the clinic has been running for quite a few years, they now have stats for the cycle histories of their patients who became pregnant or not, so they kinda know what the "ideal cycle history" looks like on average (mark my words... no absolutes here... those are the stats for Procrea clinic; I'm sure a clinic in the UK for example would have different stats!).

First, he looked at my stimming. He said that most women who get pregnant produce between 8 and 12 eggs for the retrieval. I was 14, so he said it's good (in the high zone, but not a bad thing). He also looked at how many mature eggs I had. 100% of my eggs were fully mature; he said it's a rare thing, as most women can only expect 50-80% of their retrieved eggs to be mature. So bottom line is, it looks like I produce very high quality eggs (hey, didn't get pregnant, so gotta brag about something! lol)

Next, he looked at my DH's contribution. Out of the 14, 10 eggs were fertilized. On average, one can expect 50% of the mature eggs to fertilize, so we could expect 7 and we got 10. That's also very good. Then he looked at the quality of our eggs. Again, the 50% rule applies; 6 of our 10 eggs were good for transfer. We're again above average, if only slightly this time. Division was good too; they want embies between 6-8 cells on a day 3 transfer; we were 9-10 cells.

So the problem definitely occurred during the implantation stage, according to him. He said that, with those stats, all the things I did, the way I reacted to the treatment, there was no reason for me not to become pregnant other than having the misluck of falling in the other 50% (given my age group and physical state, he said that I had 50-50% chances).

So! The plan is slightly different than what the nurse told me, but it will change nothing after all. He said I could do a natural cycle one AF after the BFN AF (instead of the two AFs the nurse told me about). I could do the FET in April, but we'll be in Europe/Africa at that time. Given that I have a big flamenco show coming on May 12th, waiting until the May AF will be ideal. The show will be done, the lessons will probably stop after that show and I won't have to feel guilty skipping lessons for implantation's sake.

So here's the plan. I'll call my clinic on day 1, but I won't have any ultrasound or blood check before day 11. From then, they'll keep a close watch on me until my follicle disappears and then the FET will begin. They also realized that, by doing assisted hatching systematically (giving a little nick in the enveloppe of the embies so they implant more easily), they doubled their FET success rate. For now, they don't even charge for it and just give it to all their FET patients. What's amazing is that the whole FET procedure is only 750$CAN. It's FAR less than I anticipated (like 2250$CAN). My doctor said that the clinic wants the patients to pay as little as possible for a FET cycle because they consider it a bonus for parents to be to have frozen embies from a fresh cycle. I won't be refunded if no embryo survive the thaw, as it's not the transfer per se that's expensive, it's all the blood checks and ultrasounds and thawing process before that cost money.

He said that I should expect 50% of my embryos to survive the thaw, maybe less, especially that I have two perfect embies and two that are borderline fragmented. He also said that, again given my age group and situation, I should expect a FET success rate betwen 10-25% only. He said that studies and his personal experience show that, given that you traumatize the embies when you freeze and thaw them, it's normal that implantation is more iffy than with a fresh cycle (despite the "but you have less meds in your body" argument). So my hopes are not sky high at all, but he confirmed that I could go straight into a fresh cycle with my possible AF on the FET cycle if it fails. I love that thought; no waste of time.

He seems really, really confident that I can become pregnant with IVF given my "cycle history". He also said that, should we do a fresh cycle, he'll adjust a couple of things: the dosage during my stimming for example, and he also might help me with the implantation phase a little more by... prescribing me fire injections for the butt! Awww guys, I'll share the pain!

He also suggested me to take the transfer day off. He said it won't do miracles at all for the implantation, but he said that it would help me take it even more easy. Given that the problem occurred at implantation, he also told me that it would prevent me from feeling guilty during my next cycle(s). He also said that, given my job as a psychologist, staying home watching TV or listening to clients wouldn't make a big difference and he advised me to work the next day. Again, he strongly advocated against bed rest and said it could even harm me by putting me at serious risk for developing blood clots in the legs. And implantation is also about blood circulation, so...

So there ya go! Sorry about the lengthy explanation, but I thought the info might interest those who'll attempt a first FET.

CINNY Poor thing, getting into so much trouble because of OHSS! I'm SO glad that you're pregnant sweetie! That baby or those babies are definitely fighters! whoohoo! I hope you have a speedy recovery (let's hope you don't pass from feeling better to... morning sickness!). *hugs* glad to have you back!

Take care, and have a great day!

Sophie

[lara312]

Ange great numbers so very pleased for you
love Rachel x x

[CINNY1]

Thanks 4 all the well wishes