ARGCers Nr 3

beckym · Post by **beckym** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:47 pm

Thought time to start a new thread as last one took ages to open. Rach - glad to see your levels have gone up. you must have been relieved too. where did they put you on the drip, at the ARGC? I have got my third hcg reading tomorrow - hope they don't keep me waiting again. don't think they realise just how nervewracking the wait is at this stage. are you continuing to drink the 2 litres of water plus 1 litre of milk. i have been a bit lax over the last couple of days and my tummy has started to extend again so gone back to drinking loads to stave off the ohss as understand you can still get it even now. Alison - hope you are enjoying the first week of your 2ww. i found it quite a relaxing week and didn't start to knicker check until beginning of second week. am still knicker checking now!! LOL beckym xxx

Alison · Post by **Alison** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:25 am

Hi Becky and Rachael (and Luce, if you're checking on us!) - well, you two have certainly brought it home to me that if I do actually get a positive the worrying certainly won't be over! Read your post on the PG side Becky - you must still be feeling so stressed, but from what you've said the levels seem to be improving well. I hope that its good news today, and that perhaps you'll get a scan date, as that will make it feel more real. Rachael - blimey, 4 hours and then stuck in traffic - hardly a relaxing day. I hope today is better! I feel a bit bad about saying this, but I'm actually a little bit bored! I promised DH I wouldn't leave the house yesterday or Monday, and took it really easy - did a jigsaw (!!), read, watched crap telly etc. But by yesterday afternoon I was phoning work to see what was going on and whether there was anything they could send me to do at home! I know, what a saddo - DH doesn't understand it at all. My knicker checking will begin in earnest at the weekend. Last time we had blasto transfer I only made it 6 days into the wait before AF arrived - but anyway, I'm not going to dwell on that! By for now, love, Alison x

Amanda A · Post by **Amanda A** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 5:32 pm

Hi Everyone, Becky, hope you get on o.k. tomorrow, sure that you will but it is terrible having to keep waiting for results all the time. Yep, they did the drip at the ARGC, downstairs where you wake up after ec, it wasn't too bad, just very boring really and you feel a bit like you do when you have got jet lag! I am now drinking 2 litres of water and .5 of milk. I was drinking more water but they said that I could drop down a bit yesterday, thank the lord!! Alison, don't know what to suggest to stop you getting bored, daytime TV is pretty awful but I found 2 things that I liked, Move to the Country BBC2 at 3.30pm and Home in the Sun C4 at 4pm (they overlap). You will probably watch them and think they are complete trash but they may be worth a try! What drugs has Mr T put you on this time? This is really sweet, when I was having the drip yesterday, DH went shopping and bought me a load of clinique goodies as I had been moaning about how spotty I am due to all the drugs! Talk again soon, take care, love Rach X

beckym · Post by **beckym** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 5:56 pm

Hi guys Well have finally got a scan date - 2 Dec. You're right Alison, does make it feel much more real. No more blood tests thank god as levels doubled again today so they seem to be happy, but keep mentioning about resting as much as possible, no carrying shopping etc which is slightly different from advice people who do not go through AC normally get in early pregnancy (ie act as normal). So looks like I will be on the sofa watching those programs, which i am a fan of too. mind you, my whole family is property mad and always have been, even before the current craze - my holidays used to be spent looking at houses!!! Looked into becoming a home search agent (ie acting for buyers) myself in the spring but not a lot of money in it. Fun, though! Have already put on over half a stone just with the treatment. has anyone else put on weight or is it not the drugs at all and just me being a greedy piggy? Alison - you gotta relax!! No homework!!! I read Harry Potter - Goblet of Fire (or something) during my 2ww and it was great for getting into a kid's mode of thinking. Are you testing on day 12 or day 15? You are of course coming with us to the other side this time you know. ps knicker checking still continues even when you are pg!!! rach - you going up again to test tomorrow or have they just given you a test date? beckym xxx

Alison · Post by **Alison** » Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:09 am

Morning again my PG friends - its very kind of you to come back over here and keep me company! Congratulations Becky on getting the scan date - do you have one too Rachael? I too am a complete sucker for all the property programmes, and travel programmes too, so escape to the country/move to the sun etc. are just my sort of thing. Actually by late afternoon I feel the telly's improved. Believe it or not I also like Countdown - I went on it when I was a sixth former!! Yesterday I watched The Good Girl with Jennifer Aniston on Sky Movies. It was quite a good film but - guess what - she couldn't get pregnant, there were scenes with her going with hubby for a sperm test, the eventual positive result, and baby coming along at the end. Not really what I needed! (Hope you weren't planning to watch that film by the way - sorry if I've spoilt it!) I'm "only" on cyclogest, heparin, and aspirin (oh and deca... the steroid - I can never remember the name). No ritodrine this time, which is good cos its annoying having to remember every 6 hours, and no gestone injections which is even better cos DH absolutely hates giving them to me. I weighed myself at the weekend and was really surprised not to have put on any weight - must have been all the running around and stress. However, the amount I've eaten this week I'm sure I'll have gained - but then again, I am currently eating for four!! Take care, lots of love Alison x

Amanda A · Post by **Amanda A** » Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:19 pm

Hi Alison & Becky, Becky, glad that you got on o.k. again today. The clinic have given me exactly the same info about taking it easy, good thing that we are not working! My family is property mad too! My Dad, although mainly retired now, rents several houses out and both my sister and I have kept our original houses from when we were single girls and now rent them. DH always says that he would like to buy an old rundown place, do it up and make a mint, so maybe one day! There was a good program on last night about 2 scottish gay (well I think they are!) guys who are doing up properties, the million pound property experiment, or something like that! Yes, I have a scan date, also 2nd Dec! Becky, I would have said that it would be good to have coffee/chat that day but it was at that point last time that it became apparent that things were not right, so I hope you don't mind if we take a rain check, although I would love to met up another time. I hope you don't mind me saying that, I don't want to frighten you, the vast majority of these scans go fine , I was just really unlucky. I am not even really expecting a problem, it's just an association thing with last time so I will need DH with me that day. I have def put on weight, I feel quite uncomfortable in a lot of my clothes. I think lots of people put on weight during a cycle, at least I have each time. I go mad at the gym after trying to undo all the damage! I have also made a point of eating a lot of cheese to get lots of protein, as someone once said to me that protein makes babies. Usually I don't touch the stuff, far too much fat!! Alison, I can't believe that you watched The Good Girl with Jennifer Aniston! We got it out on video during my last cycle!! It was really ironic. We were trying to cheer ourselves up and we couldn't believe the coincidence of the storyline! I said that I knew that she would be pregnant by the end of of and I refused to watch it all!! Lucky you about the gestone. One side of my bottom is actually still numb from my last cycle! Well, thats about all from me at the moment, talk again soon. Keep resting everyone! Love Rach XX

beckym · Post by **beckym** » Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:22 pm

Hi guys Alison - you are so lucky not to have put on weight - i have put on 8 pounds since I started the cycle!! Rach - totally understand about the coffee thing. I feel the same way as it could go either way for both of us, couldn't it? I am already incredibly nervous about it, but trying to remain calm at least for the time being. dh is coming with me too that day!! I have seen so many girls go in for it on their own and thought, how can they do that? I guess unless you talk to other people you don't really realise that this is a risky stage. one thing is, at least you know this time you have eliminated the problem you had last time by doing the chromosone tests, which was very brave of you, so hopefully it should be a much better outcome this time round. does Mr T always perform the scan himself? glad I am not working as am so tired the whole time would have fallen asleep at my desk. i now have a 1 hr kip every afternoon!! beckym xxx

Amanda A · Post by **Amanda A** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:39 am

Hi Everyone, Alison, how are you? When is your test date, the days must be going by now? Becky, I think it is luck of the draw who you get to do your scan. It's just the same as going for the scans they do while on a cycle. Yes, I am really tired too but I think it is because I keep waking up at 5am every morning since last Tues and can't get back to sleep. My brain seems to be on overdrive!! Getting lots of funny pains in my tummy and then nothing at all, boobs feel bigger still. Trying not to think about how I feel because it drives you mad and it is still so early. Anyone know when Lucy will be back? Take Care, Love Rach X

Amanda A · Post by **Amanda A** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:47 am

Alison, Just seen your message on the other thread. I will be praying really hard for you. Nothing else I can say really, I know that it's hard but we are all willing things to work out for you. Lots & lots of love, RachXX

MichelleK · Post by **MichelleK** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:35 pm

Hi Girls I wondered if I could join you? I had my first appointment at the ARGC today as will hopefully be starting treatment with them. I have had one failed IVF attempt and two miscarriages (natural) and the ARGC have recommended me to have immune screening and a hysteroscopy. Any advice on these? Is the hysteroscopy painful? I would be grateful for anything you can tell me. Regards Michelle

beckym · Post by **beckym** » Mon Nov 24, 2003 6:52 pm

Alison - have left you a message on the other thread. so very sorry. xxx Michelle - well I can give you advice on the hysteroscopy and Rachael is the expert on screening so you have come to the right place! This was my second cycle of ICSI after a filed ICSI cycle at another clinic so they recommended hyster. to check the lining of the womb for polyps etc which might be stopping implantation. I had it done by Mr T at the Wellington - check your medical insurance - they will sometimes cover this - mine did. It's not painful at all. takes about 20 minutes and you are able to leave the same afternoon. Worthwhile getting it done as they can measure the uterus which helps them know exactly where to put the embies! Rachael - how are you getting on? I got crampling pains today for the first time but thankfully no bleeding. my sister-in-law checked in her pregnancy diary and said she had cramping around the same time so not to worry. Still knicker checking every time I got to the loo!! I know I will be a bundle of nerves this time next week but trying to do relaxing things to keep my mind off it as there's very little one can do about he outcome. I was getting nausea at 4am which woke me up but that has now gone, have a bit of nausea occasionally duing the day but nothing drastic. beckym xxx

luce · Post by **luce** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:05 pm

Hi ladies Just popped in to Congratulate both Becky and Rachael for their positives - it's fabulous news. I confess I did check the web whilst on hols, and saw both your news! I'm really happy for you both, so take care of yourselves! Have to confess that for a brief moment on our hols when we saw your news we both felt a little sad that it wasn't to be for us....but I am glad for you both and your hubbies. Take care Love Lucy xxx

beckym · Post by **beckym** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:38 pm

luce - did think of you when I posted as I know I would have felt exactly the same as you on reading our news. hope you had a good holiday despite that and that old HK was still buzzing. bet you got lots of Xmas pressies in Pacific Place etc ... I always thought they did Xmas quite well out there with the fab lights and then you got the Chinese New Year lights straight afterwards!!! I am well though I had a bit of a scare last night. roll on Tues when I can at least know it's in the right place!! beckym xxxx

Amanda A · Post by **Amanda A** » Sat Nov 29, 2003 10:33 am

Hi Everyone, Just catching up on your news! Luce, thought you would check the site while away and kind of wished you wouldn't because I know it hurts when other people seem to get lucky. I know that I would feel why can't that be us!! It's nice to have you back and I hope that the holiday helped a bit. Have been away from the boards since Tues, was at my parents and had some light bleeding, called the clinic and they said to go straight to bed, so stayed at my parents until last night. As you can imagine, I am now even more anxious than I was if that is possible. Just need this weekend to go by quickly and get to Tues! Hi Michelle, welcome to the ARGCers! Think Becky has told you all about the hysteroscopy. It's not too bad, it is a general so you will need time to recover. I too had mine done by Mr T at the Wellington. With regard to the immune screening. I think that they will take some blood tests to see if you have a problem or not. Mr T talked to us about it following my last cycle (I had a miscarriage) but once we established that it was a chromosome problem, we didn't have to have the tests because they seemed happy that they had found the cause. Take Care everyone, if I don't post much it is because I am really trying to rest and keep my feet up as much as possible! Love Rach XX [Edited by Rachael on 29-Nov-03 02:35]

MichelleK · Post by **MichelleK** » Sat Nov 29, 2003 8:21 pm

Hi Girls Many thanks for the kind messages - I have my hysteroscopy booked in for the 20th of December at the Wellington - and yes my private insurance will pay for it which is great news. I have the immune tests on Monday so things are happening quickly. I still have five frozen embies so Mr T said that he will use those if possible before another IVF go! Rachel and Becky - Congratulations and keep your feet up and rest! Lucy - I hope you had a great holiday and perhaps we might bump into each other at the ARGC in the New Year! Thanks for all the info on the investigations - its really appreciated. I am now signing off to have a curry! Have a good weekend. Michelle

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