MARCH-CYCLE BUDDIES

[MarciaL-OurHope4Baby]

Marcia - firstly I know exactly how you feel my follies were not growing as they should have been in the beginning, I was pulling my hair and worrying myself sick that I wouldn’t have any eggs at EC, but with all the support and encouragement I got from the girls here I kept PMA and we had 12 eggs.

I can sympathise with you over the PCOS as well as I have it and my clinic always worries about OHSS which I have had in the past, I didn’t have my little embies back until I was given the all clear. Please be aware that having PCOS doesn’t always mean that you wont get any mature eggs. I have always produced eggS sometimes more than others, but you have to keep PMA sweetie. There are a lot of ladies out there with PCOS and have lovely healthy little one, so if its worked for them then why shouldn’t it work for us.

So chin up honey and send lots of growing messages to those follies. GROW FOLLIES GROW.

Thanks Sha, I'm really trying but it's so hard. I have a really hard time producing eggs on assisted cycles, and most of the time the whole thing gets cancelled, and that's while doign injectables. So being High risk for m/c's and already having 5 losses on natural cycles, it's just breaking out hearts because we know it's due to my eggs not being strong enough, or mature enough. If it's not that it's the lack of Progesterone to keep things going, so whenever I've actually managed to have an Ov, I've been on Progesterone to help that side out. But not it's just get to grow one or more decent eggs that's the struggle once again . Greens the colour to promote fertility and new growth by the way, so that's why I've been typing in green the past few weeks lol just trying to cheer myself up and be hopeful.

Thank you for your advice and support hun, it's much appreciated

[MarciaL-OurHope4Baby]

Thanks again for all your advice and good will yesterday. Gonna be more possitive today even if I do spot!

Marcial

Hi don't give up I was under stimed with just 3 on one side and and four on the other and they took ages to grow but in the last few days they peped up a bit and in the end the collected 6 eggs 5 of which fertilised and 2 of which were good quality.

Think of you on NHS too and the pressure of one try looming large xx

Love to you all,

Quita xxx

Thank you hun, nice to know you had a good amount in the end, that's really cool. Good luck to you and I'll remember what youd said .

[MarciaL-OurHope4Baby]

Sonya what you said about your dh made me laugh its so true!
Marcia I am sending you some posative vibes honey
I am now living with a hot water bottle on my tummy because my tummy is always cold to touch.My accu guy said to keep it warm.
Big hugs to everyone xx
P.s test date is 12th not sure why its so late but I am so weak I will test after 10 days.Everyday till af.

Thank you, I really hope they're nice and snuggley in there, I was telling Nimbs to do the same thing last week as it's what my Acupuncturist says I should to as well. It's also in my Zita West Fertlity book, so don't have it too hot. The heat should penetrate through clothing and feeling like lying in a warm bath .

All the best sweetie

[MarciaL-OurHope4Baby]

Hello... i'm going back to work today...feels strange to get up and get ready to go somewhere...the past four days i've been lazing around and been indoors all the time!

Marcia...please stay positive...i was also slow to start off with...presumably they have you on low dose...on feb thread check out Angie...she was stimming for a month and a day because of PCOS and OHSS risk. She's on her 2ww now.
Ok better go now.

Chat this evening!

Nerms
x

Hi Nerms

Hope you've been having a good day and not lifting anything heavy.

I was already on a hig dose because they knew the low dose does nothing for me, so I'm hoping this dose that's higher still will do something. I can't imagine doing it for over a month, my legs are litterally black, red and purple looking, on the tops sides and inner thighs. And that's from the just above the knees to the top of my thighs. So I'm not so brown skinned anymore, and hubby just wants to cry inside everytime he looks at my legs. I think I would cry if had to do 31 days of lol. Our babies better be good as gold after all this I can tell you .

[MarciaL-OurHope4Baby]

Good morning ladies-

Well today is a good day even though I do not feel good. I just got back from the doc and she measured 15 follies and ½ were 10-12 and ½ were 12-15.5mm. They will call me later with my estrogen level and let me know if I need to adjust meds. I am right on schedule.

Marcia-Don’t let yourself get down, I know it is hard but your babies need you to stay positive. You can do this even if it takes a little longer.

Sorry if I missed anyone..Baby dust to everyone!!!

Stephanie, that's great news . Happy to hear you have scuh nice sizes. So you think you'll trigger tomorrow then huh? Can't wait for your BFP hun . As for me I'm hoping it won't be too much longer, I just need to adjust my holiday by a few days I guess. Work said not to worry about it, to they'll just go with the flow, so that's another weight of my head .

[rae76]

Quita, congratulations!! That's wonderful!

Sorry ladies, selfishly just my news this time, have only half an hour in bw/ hanging out w/ MIL and need to put my feet up for a bit...
Anyhow, had my 12 week scan today, and everything looked good!!! I've been so nervous - and you know, when I looked at my OB's face I could tell so has she!! I've been through so many unfortunate experiences regarding this baby project and she's been there to see it all, so when the sono was done she hurried to put things away and came to give me a big hugand told me how happy she was for me too!!!! That was so sweet - and also told me that I wasn't completely wacko with my worries if she was on edge too. Anyway, looks like we might really become parents in October! Next week I have my nuchal thickness sono and blood screen, but I'm done with my primary worries now. My OB invited me back in four weeks and at time we can try to find out the sex of the baby.

Again, apologies for my very self-centered message. I'm just so happy - the sleepless nights and fears and everything are finally starting to pay off...

[MarciaL-OurHope4Baby]

Hey ladies, my babies are back home, snuggling in and making themselves at home. They put back 1 2cell grade 2 & 1 4 cell grade 2 embies back, the 3rd one was a 4 cell but they said it was very fragmented and not good quality.

I’ve been very good this afternoon and chilling and relaxing in front of the TV and talking to my embies. Also had accu pre and post transfer so fingers crossed every bit counts.

So now the dreaded 2ww – I’m going to take some time off work on testing day and day before so with the weekend being Easter that means I get 6 days off and it also means that I’m only working 4 days in the 2ww – just bliss
Marcia - completely understand how you must be feeling although I am surprised that they didn’t put you on to 450iu of menopur. The exact same thing happened to me on my first cycle and for the first 7days of stims, my follies were like snails and hardly responded, so they increased my dose to the max which kicked them in touch, they also kept me on it for much longer to give me a fighting chance of getting some eggs at EC so hopefully they will do the same for you. There is no benefit to them in taking you in prior to them being ready so I'm sure they will continue yr meds. I know its a real pain when the timetable shifts but us women, we are so unpredictable Keep positive it will work out for the best.

Anyway why worry about 2nd/3rd goes - you're not going to need them after you get your BFP

Those follies will grow, they are obviously a wee bit stubborn like the rest of ours!!

Nims xx

Hi there
Glad everything went well, and don't forget, no heavy handbags or shopping backs, no awkward bending, no lifting of anything unless it's your clothes, or cutlery and makeup lol. Here's to the snuggley ones, and thanks for the support, I can't imagine taking 5 powders a day, but I'm hoping all is well in there and my Follies are finally waking up.

Good luck in your 2ww and enjoy the rest. Anything you wanted to watch on TV or DVD that you haven't seen for ages?
I've already got it all planned how I want to spend mine .

[MarciaL-OurHope4Baby]

5th beta results 142! the highest yet.

??? and i'm having AF to visit?!!??!

so I go in for an u/s tomorrow at 11:30 am and the nurse told me to prepare emotionally and physically- take 800mg of advil or motrin- for a d&c tomorrow if needed.

ugh! I can't imagine wanting this baby so bad and now having to give it up!!!!!!

sigh....

I know exactly what you're going through hun, something simular's happened to me on a natural cycle with one of my m/c's. And it's the hardest thing in the world to go through, wanted a baby for so long and then get pg and have to say goodbye. My EP in 2003 I didn't actually know I was pg, I'd had AF as normal so we thought, and although I had another Anov cycle I hadn't had AF for 3 months prior to that. So we just put it down to the PCOS again like last time. I was CD15 when I had a scan to start injectables and they said that nothing was happening. That was the Friday, and the Saturday I was in the worst shape ever and thought I'd finally caught the Flu and tummy bug people were off sick with at work. I had a 5 when I got up, was about for 2 hours and went back to bed at 11am. I just couldn't stay awake and woke up at 5pm, had a bath and then around 6pm went to the bathroom and had a major bleed and a mucus plug fell out. Hubby got me dresses and rushed me to hospital, they did all sorts of tests and the Beta came back at 800. It was the worst day of our lives, and we made them redo all the tests because we couldn't believe it, there was no way we oculd be pg we thought. How can they say we're pg and in the same sentance say we were loosing our baby to an Ectopic? It turned out that the AF was the start of the Loss as my womb was full of blood and over flowing. We had half an hour to talk things through and they kept in there and then. Anyway the details are long, but what I'm saying is, if you want anyone to, you can pm me about anytime you want. Even if it's to talk about how your feeling or coping, I've helped other women in simular circumstances, so I don't mind being a listening ear if you need one .

[fijibabie]

Hi there
Thanks for the warm welcome.

We started the Bureslin (is that how you spell it?) last Thursday 22 March. AF arrived today and we have my bloods done on 4 April. All going well with them we start on the Estradiol Valerate tablets on 5 April. Scan on 12 April to see how the thickness is going.
I think I told you we are using donor eggs. Well, all going well, she has her OPU on the week of the 16 and we get the implantation done 2-3 days after that.
I can not remember the date we start the delightful pressaries but it is looming!
So that is my dates. I am feeling fine on the bureslin but am getting a bit worried about the other stuff.
Good luck to all you!
Oh - by the way my name is Barbara or Barbs as everyone calls me and I live in the South Island of New Zealand!

[MamaCardenas]

Nimble- Thanks for getting me all that information and researching for me, I really appreciate it.
Sokru8- 6 is still a great number!!!Good Luck on Saturday I will be doing the same as you so I’ll be thinking of you!!! keep a PMA
Miss Piggy- So Dolly Parton is your new twin huh, isn’t that a huge sign of pregnancy ??? Good Luck!!
rae76 congrats on your ultrasound I would have been so nervous too but sounds like everything is looking good for you!!! And you get to find out the sex already that’s so exciting!!!
I love the poo conversastion!! LOL sounds like we were all in the same boat but no on was brave enough to bring it up till now!! Well I have been really backed up too!! It sucks, I am feeling so bloated since the EC and my stomach is huge!!! I look like I’m already pregnant, I wanted to work out till the ET but its not even possible with the pain I am in, today they say they are still monitoring me for OHSS but as long as im urinating regularly then that’s a good sign, which I get up at least 5 or more times in the night to pee because my tummy is so huge it adds to the pressure, needless to say I am really uncomfortable, wondering when I should be loosing some of this weight??? Anyone go through this??
Today they also said our embryos are growing great they are all at 8cells today and the ones that weren’t doing so good yesterday are doing better today, she said we have at least 7 that are really good quality ! =)

[smattison]

Sorry I have not checked in today but just having a little family drama...boy I tell you I must be crazy trying to have another baby…my 17 year old is giving me hell!!!

Quita-WOW congrats!!!

Damn look at all these BFP…Congrats Chvonne!!!

Sonya…6 is GREAT!!! Don’t be sad that is a wonderful number and you will have left overs…LOL

Marcia-Don’t worry about the small things..no pun intended…LOL but everything is going to be OK. If it takes a few extra day then so be it. You have a lifetime with this new baby you are going to have!!! Keep your chin up and happy! I hope to trigger tomorrow night. I am running out a meds and I have enough for 1 more day. I will find out 1st thing in the morning.

Rae…that is so wonderful and October will be a great month!!!!

Mama-I am so bloated as well and I look 3 months prego right now. I find myself rubbing my belly and holding it as if I am prego…I love it…A girl can hope right!!!
7…wow that is great news…you will have some snow babies!!!

Anyone I missed I hope you are all well and sucking up all the baby dust in the air!!!

[smattison]

Has anyone heard from Kandice?? I am on pins and needles waiting to hear the news...I just know she is prego and everything is going to be OK.

[Quita]

Dear Marcia,

They had to give a double doseage of Puragon injection for an extra week/ week and a half and delayed my EC which put the fear of God in me.
The first time we did it we put all the fluid in one syringe and my stumach had a lump on it like I had been stung by the worlds bigest wasp. But it worked they finally grow.

And remenber it quality not quantity they got 6 out of 7 out of me and 5 fertilised. So like you I think I was possibly ovulating too early naturally and perhaphs my eggs weren't muture enough before.

And Now I have two lines on my HPT!!!!

So please don't give up honey. We are all beside you like an army.

xxxQuita xxx

[nimble]

Nicky - i think we go through that worry with the small droplets left over. So how is it going - must be day 3 of stimming?? Now again you will hit spots on your tummy that are more painful than others but didn't want to tell you that before you started

Marcia - your work sounds like they are very understanding which helps when you are going through this process makes life a little easier.

I have done absolutely nothing since wednesday, seriously although TV is getting a bit boring, so many housey programmes you can watch in one week. DH is home today too so atleast i have some company and don't worry I'm not lifting a finger

I've managed to watch my taped ER and Holby City but thats about it. Not alot else I can do, as most of things I love doing are a no no at the mo.

Rae - don't apologise for your message, it's so nice to hear really good news and so pleased that your scan showed everything was ok. Now atleast you can start enjoying your pregnancy without having to worry about it too much. So do you have any preference on sex?

Kandice - I'm thinking of you and praying hard and worried that as we have not heard from you its not good.

Barbs (fijibabie) - wow south island of NZ - how wonderful - its one of the places I've always wanted to visit.

The pressaries are not too bad once you get used to them, they normally start you on them when you have had the embryo transferred. Its just where they go isn't nice

Mama - yep welcome to the bloated belly club! You are probably still swollen down there from all those eggs and the EC but it will go down. If you are blocked try and get some stool softner which is suitable for pg women - its bad enough been bloated at the front without that adding to the problem, may ease your discomfort a bit too.

Your embie numbers are sounding really positive too - looks like you will have some snow babies

Stephanie - hey don't put us off children are you having a particularly hard time with him at the mo?? Does he know what you are going through?

I do the same as you, comfort my bloated tummy and stroke it although must remember not to do in work!!

Quita - everything is looking good for that strong result tomorrow - are you having b/w done to test?

Shantala - how did the interview go - did you wow them with your charm and character? When are you likely to hear??

Sonya - how are your embies doing ?

Jill - any news on yr embies honey???

I had the most awful dream last night that I was bleeding - guess it was just my mind playing tricks - so going to the loo this morning was a bit scary just in case it was true! I know its still too early but i hate these dreams which are so life like Not much else to report, weather is totally crap here.

TGIF and the weekend is round the corner
xx

[kandice]

hi all- very selfish post today and venting so thank you all in advance.

they did an ultrasound and saw some fluid in the tubes but no mass and they looked around my uterus and saw a 3mm mass- weren't sure if it was the embie or blood clot from AF. they talked to me for a long time and said it wasn't viable- no matter what, that it was going to come out- either by them or me shedding it naturally in my next few cycles.

so my MIL came with my yesterday- DH works nigths and it was his night to work last night so he had to sleep during the day. we talked about it and she told me that she would take it out now if she were me, after all I've been through I didn't want anymore false hopes or anything.
so I made a very selfish decision to have a uterine scraping yesterday. I'm fine physically but emotionally I feel empty- like nothing inside me at all. crying all the time. they saved the tissue and were going to have the lab dissect it and see if there was a pregnancy in there and i went for another beta yesterday and go back today too. if they got it then my numbers should be zero today, but if not or if they are even rising then there's a possibility of etopic still.

I feel very guilty that I made the decision to take it out. almost feel as if I had an abortion. it's stupid comparsion but we put down our cat last month after we learned that he had contracted FIV- kitty AIDS- and I feel the same way- I made the decision to take a life. it's awful.

and my family- the ones that are supposed to support me no matter what, they don't seem to have the right words either. my dad and I are very close and know what each other is thinking even though we're miles away- I knew before he told me that he was having an affair and divorcing my stepmom- he must have known that I felt like I had an abortion- the only one I told that i felt like was DH. and last night on the phone my dad says "that sounds like an abortion" I hung up on him. thanks dad! That's how I feel already- you're supposed to make me feel better and tell me I made the right decision not that I had an abortion!!!!!!!

then my stepmom- who is more of a mom to me than my real mom- she's been in my life for 21 years and I've lived with her for 11 of them. so on the phone yesterday with her and she says "aren't you glad it's over?" yes, I'm glad it's over- but of course not! I want a baby!!!!

I know they all mean well, but just think before you say something to your DAUGHTER who has just lost her first baby!!!!!!!

and yesterday it was about me I know, but I felt so bad I made the intern nurse cry- she was about 20 or 21 probably, and when they told me that it wasn't viable no matter what it really sunk in hard and I started tearing up. there was my dr, my IVF coordinator, the other dr because he started the whole thing while my dr was busy and the intern nurse. so the intern nurse saw that I was about to cry and handed me a box of tissues and I looked over at her and said thank you and I could tell she was about to cry and she excused herself fromt h room and never came back. poor girl. she's going into this busienss wanting to help families have babies but she probably hasn't experienced the sad side of it when it deosn't work out. I felt so bad for her.

and funny story about MIL. so they take me int he room- she asks if I want her in there with me. I say of course- so she comes in and I get undressed- I start unbuttoning my pants and she immediately turns around and starts talking about the astronaut who wore diapers- it was in a magazine laying on the shelf. LOL! poor MIL. it's ok! I'm completely fine with undressing in front of her- she helped me put on my wedding dress!!! but you could tell she was embarrassed and after I was covered I told her- "sit down will you?!" lol. poor lady- she's in her 70s and I'm sure she never had her MIL in with her for anything- it was considered private back then....

so that's everything. I go back in a few minutes for my 7TH beta today.

thank you all for your thoughts and prayers- I know we'll get through it it'll just take time...