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Xrayem
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Post by Xrayem »

Hi Guys,

I've been a bit quiet lately as I have been very tired and thus have no news. Its good to see that everyone is getting along OK and that there are some newbies in the mix (hello Fijibabie and Arizonakiwi).

I'll be 27 weeks tomorrow and its a little freaky to know that labour can start anytime from now! I have two friends who both went into labour at 26 weeks with twins so I am relived to have made it past that. I am getting so big and uncomfortable and one of my patients looked at me terrfified when I called her name the other day and I had to assure her that I would not go into labour on her! People keep offering me seats and tsk-tsking when they see me carrying sopmething. I think they all think I am 40 weeks! I'm not used to being treated like an invalid and it gets a little annoying. The only person not fussing over me is DH who still thinks I should be doing my share of the cooking and cleaning (which is most of it)! Lazy sod.

But otherwise all is well and I'm just passing the time best I can. Terrified that in about 10 weeks I am going to responsible for 2 tiny babies!

Love to all.
Em
TTC 5yrs - Unexplained Infertility
3xIUI's (April, June & Aug 06) - BFN,s
1st IVF - Oct 06 - Jasper & Finlay born 07/06/07
Natural preg - Addison Grace born 15/10/08
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Kery
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Post by Kery »

Hi ladies!

You are doing so well Em, I hope you can hold onto those little bubs for a bit longer! I'm sure you are getting very excited about seeing your two little ones.

Just a questions for you ladies. I was supposed to have my ER on Friday but it is put off until next week now. The nurse told me all my levels (I have no idea what they all mean) and said that I have not responded enough and they have increased my puregon injections. I do know that I was on a low dose to start with but I'm not sure if this is common or not? Have any of you ladies been delayed because of a low response?

Kery
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Post by jomae »

Hi all
KEry is right Em your doing well and every day longer is better sorry your DH isn't being so supportive and letting you put your feet up more.
hey kery i'm a poor responder also if i remember correctly my dose was increased from 300iui to 450 iui which is the highest dose ii think you can have and my time was extended by 4 days maybe 5 i wouldn't worry about it though its just shows your doctor has got your interest better to go on a bit longer then go now and not be ready sorry have to dash will drop in soon
tkae all Jomaexxx
Xrayem
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Post by Xrayem »

Hi kery,

My ER was also pushed back (only by 4 days) and I remember being so stressed and dissappointed, but in the end it was the right thing to do as my eggs weren't matured enough. I was also terrified that I would ovulate naturally in the meantime but everything was fine. I assume your clinic is saying that the follicle sizes aren't large enough to support a mature egg yet and nby increasing your drugs they are hoping to give them that final push to be ready. I know its incredibly stressful but trust that your doctor knows what is best to get the biggest, healthiest yeild of eggs.

I had well over 20 follicles and even after a delay of 4 days they only managed to get 13 good eggs from that. I dread to think what the result would have been without the extended wait.

Thanks to you and Jomae for your support....my DH isn't a bad person, its just that nothing much has changed for him with this pregnancy and I don't think he understands how taxing on the body it is. I was also having a bad day as DH is away in Darwin on business until wednesday night then off to New Zealand thursday to Monday for a family wedding. (i can't fly anymore). I feel very vunerable and alone at the moment.

Em
TTC 5yrs - Unexplained Infertility
3xIUI's (April, June & Aug 06) - BFN,s
1st IVF - Oct 06 - Jasper & Finlay born 07/06/07
Natural preg - Addison Grace born 15/10/08
Kery
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Thanks guys, I had no idea if being delayed was common but it sounds like it is. I was really looking forward to coming off the drugs, they seem to take over your life although I do know it's all for the best. On the weekend I took my son to the speedway and here I am in the toilets injecting and sniffing my meds! Anywhere you go you have to cart your meds around like a dunkie.

I haven't had much to do with my doctor since I went to the clinic I have only dealt with the nurses. I guess ivf is just like having kids, the first time round you have no idea what to expect!

Em, my dh is sounds very similar. He has a great heart and means well but sometimes has no idea what I go through. Even when I have felt like crap I am still the one doing dishes, vucuming etc. If I didn't do it nothing would get done. Over the last few weeks since dh went back off-shore to work we decided that we won't talk about ivf until EC (we are just both talked out about ivf).

Anyway back to the clinic in the morning for more bloods.
Thanks again ladies, I start stressing about nothing sometimes.

Kery
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Post by Tiger »

Hiya All!!

just a little big G'day from me!!
I feel so bad I have been away for sooo long and I have not had time to keep up with everyone's news.... :oops: . WELCOME to all newbies and hello to old mates, Jomae - thank you for looking out for Bel and I. Ems, 27 weeks already!! Missmolly, I hope you're doing ok, have you decided on your bub's name yet? Cheeky, Well done for BFP!!. I hope to return to the thread regulary after I return to OZ... I have only 3.5 week to go working in London and I am coming back to OZ on 28th May!!!!!! I have my appointment with the doc on 5th June - yipeeeeeee! but I am nervous too!!! Meanwhile, I am off my pill and now suffering usual ENDO pain, in fact I think I am ovulating right now - IT HURTS :evil: .

"Life was never ever meant to be easy", I KNOW I KNOW :roll: !

Thanks for listening to my rant (and I am sorry it is all about me, me & me :shock: ) but I promise y'all I will be BA-AAAA-A-CK real soon.

Take care all and catch ya. Love, Tiger x
Blocked tubes due to endometriosis.
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Post by jomae »

Hi em
Of course your Dh isn't a bad person he's just like the rest of the male species my Dh decided when I was 7and a half months pregnant that it was a great time for us to start tiling out our house by the way we had to buy 100square metres of tiles so its not like it was a small area. so your not on your own I guess they don't realize how taxing it is on you mind you my DH got the sore boobs when i was first pregnant and the indegestion and heart burn at the end what a softie hey HA HA
Hey kery hows it going I love the speedway we go when ever its on near us and yep weird places to shoot up hey well you do what you have to mind you i don't think a stranger would beleive your excuse of ivf if they sprung you it would certainly look dodgy lucky we know better.
Hi cheeky how you going anything new do you have any pregnancy books yet there really helpful in knowing what changes to expect hope your not feeling to sick.
hey Belb hi hope you and the family are doing well question if your reading is Ellie crawling yet DS is so close he can go backwards quite well but not forward he pulled himsef to a standing position the other day some how i think hell skip the whole crawling part and go straight for the running he's definatley on the go and his little mind doesn't stop go go go go go go go go go go.
Tiger great to hear from you again i did PM you in reply the other week hope you got it not sure if i new what i was doing. and June ooooohhhhh how exciting can't wait to follow with you to your BFP.

Hello everyone else hope your all well . Did everyone have a good easter anyone do anything special .

Take care All JOMAEXXXX
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Sorry guys it posted twice, could seem to delete one post
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Kery
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Post by Kery »

Hi everyone!

Tiger that's great that you are starting your second round of ivf soon. I guess on your second time you have some idea what you are in for.

Jomae, sounds like your little one is on the move. Yea sometimes they just skip the whole crawling bit. My boy didn't crawl but was up and walking around at 10 months (then he was trouble!)

I rang the clinic today and they cancelled my cycle. They said that my levels weren't up to where they should have been. I was upset earlier on and rang Dh to tell him the news. Gee the poor guys couldn't understand a word I was saying over the crying. After a good cry I dragged myself off the bed and told myself to get it together! We'll give it all another go next month and see what happens. One thing I have learnt is only to tell who really needs to know about the ivf. Friends do mean well but it is hard to explain the in's and out's of ivf to someone that knows nothing about it.

Just wondering, what happens money wise when a cycle is cancelled? Is it cheaper next round if you have drugs left over?

Hugs to everyone!
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Post by jomae »

Gee Kery I'm sorry your cycle has been cancelled i'm sure its one of the most frustrating things I hope your not feeling to bummed.this was your first cycle wasn't it i know this sounds weird but in a way you have to consider this cycle as a trial run next time like me the doc will know that you'll need to be pushed harder and maybe longer to get a better result so keep you chin up you'll get there. as for the cost I really have know idea what will happen surely you will receive part there of back or you would like to think so i 'd be a bit peed of if you didn't why don't you ring the clinic and find out so you don't have to worry about it. it's pretty sad when you have to worry if you can afford to go ahead it's like we are buying our babies.I know this doesn't help much but just wanted you to know we are thinking of ya

take care JOMAE
Kery
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Post by Kery »

Hey Jomae
Thanks for that. Yea I'm ok, I guess you just pick yourself up and carry on. It's school holidays so my son and I have been buzy having a good look around Perth. Since we've been here we have been so buzy we haven't had a good chance to explore the place.

I rang the clinic to ask about the money side of things. The woman at the desk there has no idea about anything that goes on. She just said I have to wait till they send the receipt out in the mail for medicare. I tryed to explain that I needed some sort of idea what I would be looking at but she had no idea! Surely next time it would be cheaper as I still have heaps of syneral, puregon and a trigger shot in the fridge.

Kery
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ozstock
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Post by ozstock »

Hi Kery,
So sorry to hear about having your cycle cancelled! That sucks so badly! The same thing happened to me in my first IVF cycle due to OHSS risk- i was walking around with ovaries bursting with eggs and they couldn't take any of them. It's the last thing you are expecting as it takes enough courage to get to that point in the first point, only to have the rug taken out from underneath you.

The only positive thing that i can tell you (based on my old clinic), is that you should get a big refund back. If all you did was take the injections and daily spray (and not EC or ET, ie. no day surgery), then you shouldn't incur all the costs associated with that. I suppose it depends on how your clinic bills you. My failed cycle was about $450 + $220 in doctor consultation visits (after IVF refund and before Medicare rebates), so you should be getting quite a bit back. I'd be pushing the clinic to give you some answers on that one.

Anyway, once again, am so sorry to hear about your situation. You may have heard this before but the next time around, they should have a much better idea on how your body is responding (or not responding) to the drugs, to should be able to make any necessary adjustments.

Hang in there and enjoy the time hanging out with your son.
Ozstock
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DD- Born June 08
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hey kery
so so sorry about your cancelled cycle I know you'll feel bummed out about having to take all them drugs only to be cancelled. when my first one was cancelled I was on 150 then they upped it to 300 next cycle which made a difference. But having said that I got a full refund for everything apart from the syneral spray. I used the syneral spray again for the next cycle but i got a whole new lot of injections the trigger i used for the next cycle also. So u should get most of your money back its only when you get to ec it's a different story. We'll again so sorry for ya kery
take care cheeky
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Yay 3 snow babies 2010 I will reunite with my snow babies
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Hi Ozstock

Thanks for that! Everyone on this tread has been so great! I wish I could meet you all and give you all a HUGE HUG!!!!

I am fine about it now. I think the meds at the time makes you all emotional about it all. At the time I said "that's it I am over ivf and all the crap that goes with it" but now I'm ready to give it another go. I do realise that one cancelled cycle is not the end of the world, gee there are women on the site that have really had it hard!

Ozstock did you go on to have another cycle after your cancelled one?
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April isci - Cancelled
June isci - Failed
Oct iui - BFN
Apri iui - BFP!
DS 1 year
12 yrs
ozstock
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Post by ozstock »

To answer your Q Kery, I did another round and they halved my dosage from 200 to 100 the second time and had me coast for a few days (as i was borderline OHSS the next time around as well). We ended up with two five-day blastocysts transferred but neither took. If i decide to do IVF again, they will probably halve the dosage again and then possibly increase it after the 'recruitment' phase to increase quality of egg (but not quantity). I am willing to give IVF one more go but DH would rather spend money and energy into adoption. So still unclear what we are going to do right now.
Me 39, DH 39
TTC 5 years
DD- Born June 08
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