May/June Cycle Buddies

[jenn]

Oh Tanya, a purse party would be a dangerous place for me. I'm not even sure I could tell DH I was going. He would try to block the door! I have a tiny purse addiction. Sounds like fun!

Daly- sorry your dog isn't well. My dog is my child so I know how you feel when they are sick. Hope he gets better!

Jovigal- if feeling bad means preggo- I don't want to feel good!! I hope your chills mean good things!

Susan- If I have ER on Saturday, we'll both be having procedures on the same day. Sticky baby dust to you, and good luck on your 2ww! You are a brave girl to go camping in the rain. I am NOT a camper! Camping is staying at a hotel to me!!

I have not bought any HPT's yet and I am trying not to. Last time I kept doing them and it was pointless b/c I had an HCG booster and so they came back positive so I kept doing them and then they eventually turned neg. Big bummer! The 2ww is the pits!! And what makes it worse is you still have to go for bloodwork every other day and so you wonder if they know something, and you analyze everything they say on the phone when they call with results wondering if it is a BFP!! Ok rant over, i'm going to bed!

night!

[PMApsy]

Good evening ladies,

whew, the weather is SO BAD here! 5 degrees Celsius! And winds up to 70km/h!!! We lit a fire in the fireplace because the house was so cold! Gosh! It was weird! Hehehe but still nice!

I can't believe that tomorrow is here... already time to pay for our second IVF! And stimming starting Friday night! Time flew! It will be so weird to go back to the clinic... and bring back all kinds of memories. Ah, well, I'll think of our four frosties that are kept there! My little treasures!

Jovigal: hey sweetie, thanks for opening your heart! Looks like you were trying to prepare yourself emotionally for the possibility of a BFN. You're right, we're all lucky to be alive and live in better conditions that so many people! Thanks for putting things in perspective. However, it's not over till it's over. There's NO WAY you can trust your body's messages right now. The meds and stress are interfering too much. Remember... you're a PUPO! Pregnant until proven otherwise! Yeah, I got flu symptoms during my 2ww and I got a BFN. I was puzzled by your HPT statement. If handling a negative result well is to take it with a huge grain of salt and consider that it means nothing and you could still be pregnant, then why test in the first place?

shantala: WOW! Long time no see!! Glad to see you back! How are things? And your DH? And that rough time you went through in Egypt? Poor thing! I brought back quite a turista... lasted one full week! Tophe ate like a pig and never had the smallest symptom, the lucky guy! It's good to have you back sweetie! *hugs*

jenn: congrats on getting the good news from your doc! Looking forward to add that on the list! Yippee!!!! ER on Sat looks gooood!

literatriz: sorry for misinterpreting your approach! Love the down-to-earth professional tools, LOL! Yay on your first Lupron injection! Told you it was a piece of cake! I keep everything crossed that your body will hear the proper calls and behave the way you want!

TansRN: okay, that cashier story was SO funny! LOL I would have loved to be there with you and look at all those HPTs stuffed here and there, scattered so they don't look too much! Did you say something to the cashier after all? Sure Tanya, they shoot you with pregnancy hormones just so you won't test for 7 days! Looks like it's no use; you plan to test anyway! No, I don't test. Doesn't mean I'm against it; I'm just against it for myself! When I did my first IVF, AF came about 10 days late. So I had bought a box with two HPTs and used one at that time. There was one left. During my 2ww, I was very calm and zen. For the reasons I told you about earlier. But then, people started making comments on the forum. How my cold might mean that my immune system was weakened because I was pregnant... how my 9 and 10 cells embies were really strong for 3 day embies and how they had super good chances of implanting... people, some in particular, kept making comments like this. At some point, I asked them to stop, because I knew very well that none of these signs proved anything. But then, someone kept talking about how she had made an HPT two days before blood test and got a positive and told her DH the news and so on... and that HPT started to tempt me. I had promised myself that I would not test, and then I yielded. I changed my mind because all those comments had messed with my thoughts and made me believe that maybe, indeed, I was really pregnant. And if I was, and got the confirmation with the HPT, then I could prepare something really special for my DH and tell him the news when he would come back from work (I was at home that day). It sounded so much better than getting the results from a stranger in a clinic! I told myself that I could totally take a negative result, because I knew that it might mean nothing, right? So I did the test, it was negative. I felt very stupid all of a sudden. For believing that it had been a good idea. It would have, if the test had been positive! I threw it at the garbage and was almost relieved at first that I had spoiled that darn HPT. I promised myself that no HPT would ever enter my house again. I took a long bath and thought I was doing quite okay, emotionally, repeating myself that it meant nothing and I could still be pregnant. About two hours later, I was walking my dog on a football field in a park near my house, howling, screaming and crying madly in a raging snowstorm, feeling sorry for myself big time. My husband found me curled up on the couch in front of the fireplace; other than the merry fire, the whole house was plunged in the dark. I thought having a negative HPT would prepare me for the shock of the blood test. Turns out I let it all out that day, three days before the blood test... then thought I was okay. Then started spotting the following evening and had another crying session in bed with my DH this time. Then thought I was okay. Then AF started the next day, I was working in addition and had to be nice to research participants all afternoon. I did not collapse this time, but my heart ached like hell. And then the following morning, I had the blood test at the clinic. So those are my personal reasons for not doing HPTs during the 2ww this time. The possibility of getting the good news in advance is excruciatingly tempting. But getting a negative plays with my mind too much. I means nothing, and yet it makes things point towards BFN all the same. And it makes me hurt for four days instead of one. Having the results of the blood test was an enormous relief just because I knew I could trust that result 100%, which is far from being the case with HPTs, especially when they show a negative result. I tell myself, so what if I know two days in advance? If I'm pregnant, I'll enjoy that BFP for months and months! Those days won't make a difference. It's not like knowing the result will change anything to the outcome anyway. Okay, end of epic novel.

gbnut: thanks for giving us news! Keeping everything crossed for your little sleeping beauties to wake up healthy! So sorry about your car, though! Such a bad surprise after having a great time on a trip! Been in Bath once, in 1996 I think. Lovely place!

daly: I'm SO sorry about your little cutie! I love my two girls dearly (dog and cat) and it breaks my heart to pieces when they are sick. I'll say a little prayer for your baby before I fall asleep. Ah, dream interpretation! I have veeeeeeeery mixed feelings about the unconscious. I think people give it FAR too much credit. I don't think dreams mean nothing, though. But if you get me started on that, I'll disclose very personal info! So I'll let you look for yourself how you could do dream interpretation. You have the skills to do it. A good way is to start keeping a dream journal. You'll see that some themes tend to come back at certain moments. Oh and by the way, CBT is not always short-term. And there is short-term psychodynamic therapy as well!

Good night ladies! Time to do the list and then off to bed!

Sophie

[PMApsy]

Our proud moms-to-be
Nimble Positive HPT; everything points to a natural pregnancy! Congratulations!

Going through the 2ww

TansRN 2 perfect embies transferred on May 11th, beta May 24th (13dp5dt). Last HPTs showing a positive result!
Jovigal 2 perfect embies transferred on May 11th, beta May 21st (10dp3dt).
My2LnT 4 perfect little fighters transferred on May 12th, beta May 24th (12dp3dt).
marsxp 2 perfect embies transferred on May 14th, beta May 26th? (12dp3dt?).

Embryo transfer

gbnut, waiting for FET in a medicated cycle; FET should be on May 19th; 5 frosties
mandeeq, waiting for FET in a natural cycle; lining scan on the 18th

Egg retrieval
arizonakiwi Unfortunately on hold for now due to high hormone levels, hang in there sweetie!
Jenn Possible EC on May 19th!

Ovarian stimulation

arizonakiwi started stimming May 3rd, hormone levels too high to trigger for now, about 10 measurable follies so far, keeping everything crossed!
Jenn started stimming May 9th, flare protocol, last scan showed 6 bigger follies, grow follies, grow! Trigger probably May 17th!
PMApsy starts stimming May 18th, blood test May 22nd

Ovarian vacation
Jul1e.... injection on April 19th, scan May 16th
souris.... started downregging April 28th
mommytobe.... started Lupron May 8th, blood test May(?)
Literatriz.... started Lupron May 15th
hrobinson.... starts Lupron May 22nd
annag.... starts Lupron May 24th, FET cycle
daly.... short IVF cycle, waiting for LH surge (Lupron starts 7 days later)

Birth control pill
annag.... FET medicated cycle, 9 frosties
hrobinson.... Fresh cycle
lwalker25.... Fresh cycle(?)

Waiting for AF
ltaylor.... FET cycle
Jen779.... FET cycle starts May 16th or 17th
Literatriz.... fresh cycle, donor embies, started Lupron on May 15th

Eagerly waiting for cycle to begin
Shantala.... Fresh ICSI cycle starts in May
Literatriz.... Fresh cycle started May 1st, donor embies); flying for Brazil on May 16th! Good luck sweetie!

In our thoughts and prayers
CarolynB, good luck for your postponed cycle in July 2006! And good luck in Dubai!

[arizonakiwi]

Hi Guys,

Well the news isn't good, my E2 level is now up to 21,000 so they won't let me trigger. They have given me a little ray of hope in that I have a blood test on Saturday morning and it it is down 15000 they might let me trigger and have EC on Monday - not sure if my eggs will last that long as my cycle is always 26 days like clockwork. I feel rather deflated and upset that this is happening all over again but I'll hang in there until Saturday cos like you all say it isn't over till it's over.....

I'll try and do some personals tomorrow but just want to curl up and feel a little sorry for myself at present.

Thanks you for all your kind words and support over the last couple of days it has been a god-send and I appreciate it so much.

Angela

[PMApsy]

Angela, sweet pea,

I feel so sad right now... imagining you curled up on the sofa and I just want to go there and hold you in my arms! I'm so sorry that your hormones stopped behaving themselves! You must feel so powerless right now, and betrayed, too! Everything was looking so good and now you've been on pins and needles for days and days, holding your breath... and me too! I really feel sorry for you, but I still have everything crossed for you. They had you under so close watch that maybe they stopped things in time and your follies will be salvageable for a trigger on Saturday. Don't think too much ahead sweetie... if some might be too old, remember that not all follies grow at the same rate and some of the late bloomers might be just ripe and juicy by then.

I'm with you in thoughts, and intensely so. *HUGS* Keep us posted sweet darling!

Sophie

[PMApsy]

Hey guys,

I just wanted to let you know that my apt went very well at the clinic. Those Repronex shots look like they're going to hurt, though! LOL With my sensitive skin, no doubt that I'll have to start giving shots in my thighs and arms... a thing I never did. Who said she injected Repronex in her tush? They did not say anything about me shooting Repronex in there, just the tummy, arms and thighs. She said that most women found that the tummy was less sensitive for the shots... you might want to switch!

I've given things some thoughts and I think I'll start stimming tomorrow morning instead of the evening. Those 16 hours must make a difference. I thought it was easier to do the shots in the evening because I wouldn't have to remember not to take the shots the morning before u/s and I would not feel the side effects of the meds... but I guess I'll just carry the right quantity of meds with me with an ice pack and do the injection at the clinic before I leave. The ice pack might even come handy if I have to freeze the injection site a little.

I had to stim for a longer time last time (13 days instead of the average 10), so it's an incentive for me to start sooner, even if only 16 hours. It's still a difference. Do you think it's crazy thinking? Or is it me finding reasons to outweight the fact I'm just impatient to see those follies grow?

I had the OKAY to proceed to stimming just a few minutes ago! I can't help but shiver when I think about the way she wished me luck! Well, stimming excitement is definitely kicking in!

Take care girls,

Sophie

[jenn]

Sophie- So happy that you get to start stimming!! Good luck! I do my shots in the morning and at night. Gonal and Lupron in the morning and Repronex and Lupron at night. Last cycle I didn't have Lupron and did both stimm shots in the morning because DH had to give repronex and we knew he would always be home at the same time in the morning. If he had to work late we couldn't have done the shots at the same time every evening. I do the Repronex in the tush. It is an IM shot so DH gives it in the tush. They don't hurt that bad. I don't think I could give myself the shot with that big long needle! The nurse told me that Repronex can be given subQ with the little needle, but they don't recommend it for fair skinned people. They are more prone to have a reaction at the injection site. I am very fair skinned, so she said if the IM injections don't bother me it would be better to stick with the tush! Also, I am already giving myself 4 shots a day in the tummy so that area is pretty irritated with me! Hope this info helps you! Good luck!

I am back from dr. and she said everything looks great. She is going to look at my hormone levels this afternoon when blood comes back. Then she will decide if it will be a Sat. or Sunday retrieval! I'll let you know!

Have a great day!

[Jul1e]

Hi all,

Have just spent sooooooooo long catching up on all I missed since I went away on hols. I was only away for 5 days but ever since I've been back I've been chasing my tail and work work working - the joy of being self employed, you take a few days off and pay for it for a couple of weeks! New York was fabby and so worth it though, my twin nieces are just adorable and I just loved spending time with them.

So here I am back again. I went for my scan yesterday and I'm to start stimming tomorrow, so here we go! I'm looking forward to getting my first shot as I'm feeling really low just now. I had an injection to down regulate me a month ago and I've felt really fine but now it's run out and I'm on the nasal spray of the same drug until the retrieval and I feel awful. A bit queasy and tired and really blue. I was meant to see my friend tonight but haven't seen her in ages and don't feel I'd be good company and she doesn't know we're doing ivf so I can't get into that one. So I've cancelled and am planning a night in front of the tv with the dogs as DH is out for a couple of hours. I'm hoping the hormones in my injection tomorrow will help my mood.

I can't believe how far on your way so many of you are. TansRN, how very exciting that it's looking so positive! You ladies on the 2ww, hang in there, it's such a difficult time. PMApsy, looks like we're stimming together from tomorrow! I think the morning's a better time. DH goes out to work before me every day so he can give it to me (tee hee) while I'm still half asleep.

You were all talking about taking baby aspirin a few pages back, what does this do? should we all do it? it thins the blood I think but how does that help? also when should I start taking it?

I'll really try and keep up with the board now that I've caught up with myself. I think I've kind of been in denial that I was going to go through this again, it was such a let down the last time.

Daly, I hope your pup's getting lots better. I too am a mummy to a wonderful doggy and am also looking after my mum's pup while she's on her hols at the mo. I know how hard it is when they're not well so my thoughts are with you.

Right I'm off for a nice relaxing bath. Good to see how you're all doing. Good luck everyone.

love Julie x

[Jul1e]

Hi all,

Have just spent sooooooooo long catching up on all I missed since I went away on hols. I was only away for 5 days but ever since I've been back I've been chasing my tail and work work working - the joy of being self employed, you take a few days off and pay for it for a couple of weeks! New York was fabby and so worth it though, my twin nieces are just adorable and I just loved spending time with them.

So here I am back again. I went for my scan yesterday and I'm to start stimming tomorrow, so here we go! I'm looking forward to getting my first shot as I'm feeling really low just now. I had an injection to down regulate me a month ago and I've felt really fine but now it's run out and I'm on the nasal spray of the same drug until the retrieval and I feel awful. A bit queasy and tired and really blue. I was meant to see my friend tonight but haven't seen her in ages and don't feel I'd be good company and she doesn't know we're doing ivf so I can't get into that one. So I've cancelled and am planning a night in front of the tv with the dogs as DH is out for a couple of hours. I'm hoping the hormones in my injection tomorrow will help my mood.

I can't believe how far on your way so many of you are. TansRN, how very exciting that it's looking so positive! You ladies on the 2ww, hang in there, it's such a difficult time. PMApsy, looks like we're stimming together from tomorrow! I think the morning's a better time. DH goes out to work before me every day so he can give it to me (tee hee) while I'm still half asleep.

You were all talking about taking baby aspirin a few pages back, what does this do? should we all do it? it thins the blood I think but how does that help? also when should I start taking it?

I'll really try and keep up with the board now that I've caught up with myself. I think I've kind of been in denial that I was going to go through this again, it was such a let down the last time.

Daly, I hope your pup's getting lots better. I too am a mummy to a wonderful doggy and am also looking after my mum's pup while she's on her hols at the mo. I know how hard it is when they're not well so my thoughts are with you.

Right I'm off for a nice relaxing bath. Good to see how you're all doing. Good luck everyone.

love Julie x

[Jul1e]

Hi all,

Have just spent sooooooooo long catching up on all I missed since I went away on hols. I was only away for 5 days but ever since I've been back I've been chasing my tail and work work working - the joy of being self employed, you take a few days off and pay for it for a couple of weeks! New York was fabby and so worth it though, my twin nieces are just adorable and I just loved spending time with them.

So here I am back again. I went for my scan yesterday and I'm to start stimming tomorrow, so here we go! I'm looking forward to getting my first shot as I'm feeling really low just now. I had an injection to down regulate me a month ago and I've felt really fine but now it's run out and I'm on the nasal spray of the same drug until the retrieval and I feel awful. A bit queasy and tired and really blue. I was meant to see my friend tonight but haven't seen her in ages and don't feel I'd be good company and she doesn't know we're doing ivf so I can't get into that one. So I've cancelled and am planning a night in front of the tv with the dogs as DH is out for a couple of hours. I'm hoping the hormones in my injection tomorrow will help my mood.

I can't believe how far on your way so many of you are. TansRN, how very exciting that it's looking so positive! You ladies on the 2ww, hang in there, it's such a difficult time. PMApsy, looks like we're stimming together from tomorrow! I think the morning's a better time. DH goes out to work before me every day so he can give it to me (tee hee) while I'm still half asleep.

You were all talking about taking baby aspirin a few pages back, what does this do? should we all do it? it thins the blood I think but how does that help? also when should I start taking it?

I'll really try and keep up with the board now that I've caught up with myself. I think I've kind of been in denial that I was going to go through this again, it was such a let down the last time.

Daly, I hope your pup's getting lots better. I too am a mummy to a wonderful doggy and am also looking after my mum's pup while she's on her hols at the mo. I know how hard it is when they're not well so my thoughts are with you.

Right I'm off for a nice relaxing bath. Good to see how you're all doing. Good luck everyone.

love Julie x

[Jul1e]

sorry sent that message in twice!

[Jul1e]

d'oh, three times! what a numpty, sorry! just making up for the fact I've not posted for so long! told you I wasn't feeling so great, I've forgotton how to post!

[gbnut]

Angela sending vibes to bring down your E2 levels keep drinking lots of water and i mean litres. Last year i nearly had OHSS an dwas on 7 litres to help bring down my levels. Can your clinic not give you a shot to stop you ovulating they do here????? Hope it comes down a bit for you.

Sophie best of luck with the stims. i had to take my stims at night as they phoned to tell me what does to take after the BT in the am.

Julie glad you had a good time in New York. Best of luck with stims tomorrow.

Jenn sound like it will be very soon. best of luck to you.

Daly hope your dog gets better soon. It is horrid when they are not well as they cant tell you that they are feeling rough.

Hi to everyone else

Well just back from acupunture and i feel really chilled. going to have a day tomorrow doing housework so that the house ie ready and takes some of the pressure of DH as i will not be able to do it for a while.


Susan x

[gbnut]

Angela sending vibes to bring down your E2 levels keep drinking lots of water and i mean litres. Last year i nearly had OHSS an dwas on 7 litres to help bring down my levels. Can your clinic not give you a shot to stop you ovulating they do here????? Hope it comes down a bit for you.

Sophie best of luck with the stims. i had to take my stims at night as they phoned to tell me what does to take after the BT in the am.

Julie glad you had a good time in New York. Best of luck with stims tomorrow.

Jenn sound like it will be very soon. best of luck to you.

Daly hope your dog gets better soon. It is horrid when they are not well as they cant tell you that they are feeling rough.

Hi to everyone else

Well just back from acupunture and i feel really chilled. going to have a day tomorrow doing housework so that the house ie ready and takes some of the pressure of DH as i will not be able to do it for a while.


Susan x

[jenn]

Well girls ER is Saturday at 8:00 am. HCG shot tonight!!

Wow this is going by soooo much faster than the previous cycle with all the BCP's and Lupron big shot! This time straight into stimms and we are off!