Pregnant after 2nd IVF treatment

[snemo]

I know I don't belong on this board anymore but I needed some advice. After speaking with our doctor he thinks that my egg quality is not all that great. He said that we could try IVF again or use a donor. I had so much stress and anger during my first cycle and I wonder if that could have caused the poor egg quality.

Has anyone here failed the first IVF attempt and had a successful pregnancy after their second try?

Has anyone had a miscarriage with IVF? Is that a sign to go straight to a donor?

Anyone do PGD before their transfer?

I know I can ask my doctor about this but I already know what he is going to say. I think it will also help me to hear stories from those that have experienced the same thing.

I am deeply praying that if we go through a second IVF, we will have a successful pregnancy.

Snemo

[pixiesmom]

I think this is a tough decidion to make for most people because from what I've seen the Dr's almost always say poor egg quality if you mc or have a small number of eggs or embies. I had 2 mc before ds was born. Does that mean the egg quality was bad? I don't think so. I was pg 3 times in 5 mos including ds & I went on to have 2 dd. My dh had a vasectomy & then a reversal. We couldn't get pg since then but, no problems could be found with either of us. My 1st ivf cycle we didn't have any embies by day 6 which the Dr insisted on growing them that long even though there were only 7. 2nd cycle same thing happened & Dr said probably poor egg quality well, based on what? Nothing! Anyway I decided on my own to do a donor cycle for my 3rd & guess what we only had 2 embies to put back. Sounds like a problem with the Dr if you ask me. I did get pg with 1 & mc at 9 weeks. I switched Drs & did a donor cycle this time & I am pg with twins. What I am saying is that the Drs seem to tell women alot that it's their eggs when they don't have any basis for it. Everyone is different & if they supress you too long you might produce poor quality eggs. I just wanted to give myself the best chance possible but, I do think that if I kept trying with my own eggs I would have gotten pg with my own it really depends on how much you can afford & how much you can pit your body through. I hope I helped a little. You are still at the very beginning even though it doesn't feel like it right now. You still have a very good chance especially since you've already been pg. Good luck!

[snemo]

Thanks for the response. It's been pretty rough for me since my m/c. I read that m/c are only 8% for IVF patients somewhere on the web and then my husband said it was 25 to 30%. I don't know all the numbers but really it's still upseting. I just thought there were issues with implantation and once it does that, you are set to go. In my case we were lucky to get pregnant but not enough to sustain it.
The Dr. really believes it's the quality of my eggs but don't women who miscarry try again? How do they know that it's not the quality of their eggs. I felt like the medicine that they gave me was just too much. The last day of stimulation, my numbers were off the roof so they had to give me something else, Antagon. Could that have caused some of my eggs to be of poor quality. I don't know why but I just feel that way. Perhaps it's just denial but my gut instinct is usually right. I felt that something was wrong with my pregnancy and really there was something wrong. So I am hoping that if we try again, we will be more successful, whatever that may mean. We are completely out of money so we will have to turn to loans and scrape as much as we can from relatives.

Thanks for your response.

snemo

[pixiesmom]

I am lucky to have ins money. I wouldn't have come this far without it. I am sorry it's so difficult for you but, I have learned to go with my gut & to take charge of my heathcare. i will ask & demand anything I feel is neccesary. I have been on progestrone longer this pg because my babys heart stopped 2 days after stopping progestone last time. Is that the reason it stopped? Maybe, maybe not but, If it doesn't hurt to stay on longer that's what I am doing. I have also realized that we are all nubers & that the Drs don't know everything. If they did we would all have babies right now. Many of us women know more than the Dr's. I have a grat Dr right now & my cousin also goes to him. He is the 1st one that said we know what to do differenty next time & to me that is huge considering all of the other drs say " egg quality" If it was me & we only had one shot left I would use a donor in case of the egg quality issue, why risk it. It is more expensive though.

[snemo]

Pixiesmom

thanks for the advice. We keep swaying one way or the other. Do we try me again or just do donor. What if the donor doesn't produce any eggs? But what if my eggs are bad again? Same ol' story.
I am hoping that this won't be our last chance. I know money is hard to come by but still I feel that there shouldn't be a price on our baby.

We have insurance as well. They only cover 10K over a lifetime. So we used that up pretty quickly.

Still hoping that my eggs will improve with less medication or with less stress and positive attitude. I just realized that most women who conceive don't even know it. Some already have kids and are just trying for a second. I think some form of relaxation helps with conceiving. That's just my way of coping and thinking.

Thanks for the response and advice. I hope to join you guys on this board someday.

Snemo

[pixiesmom]

Snemo,
I think you will join this board again one way or another. I understand everything you're going through. I have been through it all. The best advise I can give you is to find the best Dr that you can by asking other Dr's that's how I found this one & I love him. Not just because he's given us our twins but, he doesn't just say "it's your eggs" Also, if you use a donor they are younger & have no problems conceiving .We also asked specifically for a successful repeat donor & that's what we got. We have 8 little frosties too that we will give to another couple after we have our twins. Whatever you decide I truly wish the best for you & remember life is a journey. I have learned so much from all of this.
Pixiesmom

[beachbaby]

Hi Snemo,

I am very sorry for your loss, and hope you feel better soon. however i think you Dr is a little negative. If this was your first IVF attemp you did very well to become pregnant, and the good news is you can. What we have to remember is we are being stimulated, so producing more eggs in one cycle than is normal, and out of that a percentage are going to have chomosone abnormalities, hence the higher percentage of miscarries during IVF, also we know we are pregnant a lot sooner than if we got pregnant naturally.
Myself i have done one fresh, BFN then i did 2 frozen cycles both had positive test results but both ended, classed as bio-chemical, implantation but then no growth, i am now awaiting further tests before we try again to check i am ok, as our problem is sperm related.

I would write a list to ask your Dr. and then decide where to go from here. I wish you all the luck for the future and hope we all acheive our dream.
J

[beachbaby]

Hi Snemo,

I am very sorry for your loss, and hope you feel better soon. however i think you Dr is a little negative. If this was your first IVF attemp you did very well to become pregnant, and the good news is you can. What we have to remember is we are being stimulated, so producing more eggs in one cycle than is normal, and out of that a percentage are going to have chomosone abnormalities, hence the higher percentage of miscarries during IVF, also we know we are pregnant a lot sooner than if we got pregnant naturally.
Myself i have done one fresh, BFN then i did 2 frozen cycles both had positive test results but both ended, classed as bio-chemical, implantation but then no growth, i am now awaiting further tests before we try again to check i am ok, as our problem is sperm related.

I would write a list to ask your Dr. and then decide where to go from here. I wish you all the luck for the future and hope we all acheive our dream.
J

[beachbaby]

Hi Snemo,

I am very sorry for your loss, and hope you feel better soon. however i think you Dr is a little negative. If this was your first IVF attemp you did very well to become pregnant, and the good news is you can. What we have to remember is we are being stimulated, so producing more eggs in one cycle than is normal, and out of that a percentage are going to have chomosone abnormalities, hence the higher percentage of miscarries during IVF, also we know we are pregnant a lot sooner than if we got pregnant naturally.
Myself i have done one fresh, BFN then i did 2 frozen cycles both had positive test results but both ended, classed as bio-chemical, implantation but then no growth, i am now awaiting further tests before we try again to check i am ok, as our problem is sperm related.

I would write a list to ask your Dr. and then decide where to go from here. I wish you all the luck for the future and hope we all acheive our dream.
J