May/June Cycle Buddies

Discussion group for all topics related to infertility including preparation for pregnancy, causes, investigation and treatment of infertility.
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Good evening girls,

Okay, quickie for me. I'm completely exhausted. Feeding all those follies really take some energy. ;)

My2LnT: don'T worry sweetheart, the pain comes and goes; it's really not bothering me for now! :D

TansRN: awwwwwwwwwwww you're so sweet to me, Tanya! Hehehehe I love you too! *hugs* Hey, I hope you'll be able to post scan pics of your beanie(s) on your blog on June 5th!

Okay, I'm really fried guys... more tomorrow!

Take care and good night!

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Big congratulations to our two mums to be Steph and Tanya. all the very best to you both. I am so plesed for you both.

Jen day 6 means that they are 6 days old and they will probably snuggle in quicker and that is why you only wait 10 days before testing rather than the average 14 at most clinics. Embryos generally start to implant anywere from day 5 to day 12. so at day 6 they should be ready to implant as soon as they go in. All the very best.

Tia not long now hun. hang in there.

Sophie you should still drink lots of water as everyone should when on stims our clinic has us drink at least 2 litres of water every day plus 1 litre of milk for good egg quality. Sounds like you will be doing your trigger soon. All the very best.

Mandeeq, Pat and Jenn enjoy your 2ww.

Marsxp all the very best for tomorrow i hope you make it a hat trick for this week.

Angela how are you today???

Hi to everyone else, hope you are all well

Lovely weather here today so a bit annoyed that cant be outside in the sun. I havegot to go to work later today for team training so that should keep my mind occupied for a bit. As far as symptoms had af pains last night but all gone now. no other symptoms to report. My leg hurts were i ahd my humeria injection today. I hate that injection and have to have it every 2 weeks to keep my TNF levels down.

Hope everyone as a good day

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Post by mandeeq »

Hi ladies

Quick post

Tanya And Steph Congratulations your official Pregnant well done ladies the May / June looking’s special thread we have all ready Four BFP.

I am so happy for all of you and enjoy been mum.

I forget to let you know my test day will be Thursday 7th June, on that day I am doing HCG Pregnancy Test, I will phone the clink for the result.

I should wait 16 days to the testing day, Rather the average 14 days but I forget yesterday to ask Dr why I should I wait on 16 days.

Susan: you are expert on FET do you know anything increasing days.


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ImageOur proud moms-to-be ImageImage
ImageTansRN BFP! :D Congratulations! (Beta = 709 12dp5dt) First u/s on June 5th!
ImageMy2LnT BFP! :D Congratulations! (Beta = 98 10dp3dt) 2nd beta on May 25th!
ImageJovigal BFP! :D Congratulations! (Beta = 87.9 10dp3dt)
ImageNimble Positive HPT; everything points to a natural pregnancy! Congratulations!

ImageGoing through the 2ww
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Imagemarsxp 2 perfect embies transferred on May 14th, beta May 26th (12dp3dt?). Image
Imagegbnut 2 perfect thawed embies transferred on May 19th, beta May 29th (10dp5dt); three frosties still sleeping!Image
Imagejenn 2 perfect embies transferred on May 22nd, beta June 1st (10dp3dt), blood test May 25thImage
Imagemandeeq 2 perfect frosties transferred on May 23rd, HTP June 7th (16dp2dt)Image

Embryo transfer
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arizonakiwi, ET on May 25th!
Jen779, waiting for FET in a natural cycle; looking good! :D Lining scan on May 23rd; Transfer anywhere between June 1-4th.
PMApsy, ET on May 30th or 31st!

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Image arizonakiwi EC on May 22nd, FINALLY! You made it sweetie! 5 perfect embies! Cheer those little fighters!
Image PMApsy EC on May 27th or 28th!

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ImagePMApsy started stimming May 18th, blood test shows super quick response; first u/s May 23rd; at least 16 follies measuring 13-16mm, one at 19mm! Second u/s May 25th. Possible trigger on May 25th or 26th.
ImageJul1e started stimming May 18th, first u/s?
Imagemommytobe started stimming May 20th

ImageOvarian vacation
souris.... started downregging April 28th
Literatriz.... started Lupron May 15th
hrobinson.... started Lupron on May 22nd
annag.... starts Lupron May 24th, FET cycle
daly.... short IVF cycle, started Lupron on May 18th

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Imagelwalker25.... Fresh cycle(?)

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Image ltaylor.... FET cycle
Image Literatriz.... fresh cycle, donor embies, started Lupron on May 15th
Image Shantala.... fresh ICSI cycle AF due June 3rd
Image tpiper55.... first IVF cycle, WELCOME! :D

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ImageCarolynB, good luck for your postponed cycle in July 2006! And good luck in Dubai!
Imagedaly, our thoughts turn to your four-legged little boy who is very sick. Sending you many hugs through this difficult time.
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Good morning ladies,

How are you guys doing? I managed to work from home today and slept till 8:00am! :oops: awwww lazy lady! Hehehe but it felt good.

IT FELT SO GOOD TO UPDATE THE LIST! :D :D :D

arizonakiwi: I feel like I haven't heard from you in a while. How are you doing sweetie?

Tanya: so, how does it feel to wake up as a momy-to-be this morning?

My2LnT: same question! :D

Who are you guys telling?

gbnut: thanks for the advice. I'll make an effort to drink more water, it's good for my health anyway. I doubt it has a direct impact on my follies though. As for the milk, alas, I can't eat or drink any dairy (it triggers IBS attacks), but thousands of vegetarian women went through very healthy pregnancies drinking other kinds of milk and I'm sure I'll be fine. I always make sure I choose enriched soy or rice milk. Should have almond milk, too... ;)

mandeeq: how long will you keep your bedrest going? It must be sooooooo boring! Especially that some doctors/people are quite extreme, forbidding people to lie on their sides! :shock: Hang in there sweetie! and you little embies, stick to your mommy! :D

daly: how are you doing sweetie? And your little pup?

Okay, time to eat breakfast and start working. Have a great day ladies!

Sophie
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Post by My2LnT »

Hey Sophie wow that looks so so very nice!!!!! What do you mean you slept till 8 Ohhhhh you are so so lucky!! I woke up with a nice pukey calm .... Tummy not in knots from waiting but shewww queezy as anything... Loving morning sickness.... With NO complaints!!!
Can you change my little thing to say 10dp3dt. Ya know since we snuck in a day early. I know I have no patientce!!!!

Thanks... Have a good day everyone!!!!

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good morning ladies... im here still hanging with an imaginary axe hanging above my head too lol.... my beta is tomorrow and i guess im more prepared now than a few days ago.... i feel like i can accept whatever result they can give me tomorrow... i might break down a little but i will be more accepting than have to blame somebody....

PMAPSY - the list is looking good.... 4 confirmed pregnancies so far.... today, you might need to update it coz bunky nrrds to get on the list too hahahahaha.... this thread is really having a great positive result..... i hope i get to join the list soon....

everyone else i hope you're having a great day..... weather's very nice here in chicago... i even went to work wearing a sleeveless shirt.... i cant wait to go home at 5 and play with my puppy outside today...

will update you on the result of tomorrow's beta..

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Post by mandeeq »

Hi Sophie

My Bed rest will keep going until I find My HCG Result, You made me
LAUGH !!! I have one week off from work, because Dh will not allowed me to do anything’s even to use in the computer.

Pat and Jenn: How you doing?

Susan: any Symptoms yet, for how many days implamation will start 3 & 4 days, I am just need to know, since transfer I am not feeling anything’s yet.

Hi eveyone and have great day
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*sneaks in so she can escape reading the boring articles a little longer...*

My2LnT: Girl, really, who do you take me for? Mmmmh? Of course I had adjusted the days on the list! But originally, I had written 12dp3dt for you! Hence the 11! Now you tell me it's 10? LOL are you sure you didn't test TWO days early? ;) Seriously, I'm sorry that you woke up a little barfsy... But please keep something in mind. Many IVFers who have BFPs later have issues with adjusting to the less happy joys of being pregnant. Because they don't feel like they've earned the right to complain! After all, they wanted that baby so bad, waited for so long, went through so much and blah blah blah. It's not true, you know. You've earned the right to complain as much as any women who became pregnant naturally. Do consider acupuncture to help you with the discomforts of pregnancy; it's clinically proven to have a significant impact. On labour too. I'm definitely going once a month once I get that BFP. Oh, and you haven't answered my question and I'm curious! ;) Are you telling anyone at this point? And where did you get those amazing stickers?

marsxp: I'm really glad that you feel better prepared for tomorrow. It's just too bad that we didn't hear much about your worries before today, cuz that's exactly what we're here for. But then, maybe you just didn't want to disclose and it's okay. I'm sending you tons of good vibes your way and keeping everything crossed for a BFP! I so hope you join that list as well sweetie! Have fun playing with your pup; I'm sure it will get your mind off stressful things.

mandeeq: so I read you well... you plan to make bedrest last till June 7th? :shock: TANYA, please give a second opinion on this one so I'm not the only one giving the info. I'll copy the information again (posted it for Marsha a while ago):

That topic is a sensitive one for me and I really want to share some information about that. But let's be clear about one thing: it's a free world, and you do whatever you want with the info I'm about to share with you. I do not judge, I just want to share info, the decision is entirely yours.

I wanted to do everything right and give myself every chance of getting that BFP when I did my first IVF. But, being a researcher clinician, I wanted to check the studies before I blindly followed the advice I heard here or read elsewhere on the internet. So, I went on Medline, the database that health professionals all around the world use to find scientific studies and I made a search on the impact of bedrest on IVF success rates.

It has none. It can even be harmful for your embryos.

Indeed, one study showed that strict bedrest impairs your blood circulation. You have a higher risk of developing blood clots in the legs, for example, a risk shared by all patients who have to remain in bed. Hence why nurses pester you to walk so soon after a surgery; it's dangerous to lay in bed all day and all night. So there is a risk for you, and there is a risk for your embryos, too... think of the blood circulation in your uterus that's threatened because you're not moving enough. That's why they recommend to avoid lifting heavy charges when pregnant and during the 2ww; the effort blocks the circulation in your groins area and that's not good for the baby. When I questioned my doctor about bed rest, he told me right away that he was against it, for the exact same reasons that I just mentioned. He is the founder of the Procrea clinic and is known internationally for his work in fertility.

At the beginning of IVF, it just seeemed logical to put women on bedrest because they had so few chances of conceiving. So it was adopted as an extra measure of caution. But as time went on, people started to doubt the utility of imposing that on IVF women and they started testing its impact scientifically. The success rates are the same whether women take a 1 hour, 24 hour, 48 hour or more bedrest... or none at all. The clinics that recommend it obviously have not read all the scientific evidence that's available. If that's your clinic's case, do ask your doctor on what scientific background he or she recommends bed rest. I'm sincerely interested in hearing the answer.

Almost all of us picture our uteruses as a little pouch that has thick walls but is basically empty in the middle; I sure did that. That's because of the front view drawings that we usually see in books and at the doctor's office. So naturally, in order to give those embryos the best chance, we figure that lying in bed will allow them to stay right next to the uterus walls (instead of bouncing everywhere in the empty pouch) and implant with less chance of losing their way.

However, look at a side view of a uterus. You'll see that the two walls are in fact pressed together. Basically, your embryos are like tiny peas trapped in a honey sandwich. There's no way they'll go anywhere. Once your doctor transfers those embryos into your uterus, they will stay right there. Depending of the transfer day (3, 4, 5, and so on), they transfer them right where they should be if they had been conceived naturally (e.g., closer to the opening of the tubes if transfer is done early, closer to a wall if transfer is done later). And once they are left there, they don't move, or barely and only from their own progression; it has nothing to do with your movements.

And don't start me on the cervix! It's sealed shut; there's no way you're going to lose your embryos through there. Except if you get a contraction and that's exactly the reason why your doctor asks you to avoid having intercourse or orgasms during your 2ww; penetration and climax make your cervix move and your uterus contract a little and that could impair implantation indeed.

One study tested the plethora of things that women do during their 2ww thinking that it will help: walk slowly, avoid using the stairs, do bedrest even if their doctor did not recommend it, eat this or that, avoid eating this or that, and so on. All the things I regularly read about here. They compared them to women who did not do any of these things. You see it coming; the two groups had the same success rate. It did not make any difference.

Not taking baths is also a popular one. The nurse at my clinic burst out laughing when I told her that some clinics give that recommendation. As I said, your cervix is sealed shut; taking a bath won't make water go into your uterus. The only reasons why you should avoid to take a bath are 1) if you have a surgery wound (e.g., your EC was done with a laparoscopy) and 2) if the water is too hot. During the 2ww and pregnancy, it's important to keep your core body temperature at a normal level. If you take a bath too hot, you overheat and that's not good for implantation or the baby's health during pregnancy. That's why doctors don't like you taking jacuzzis while you're pregnant; people set the temperature too high. But as long as you take baths that are not too hot, you're totally fine.

As I said, you do what you want with that information, it's your decision. People argue that some women need to do all those things to avoid feeling guilty if they have a BFN. I understand. However, reading about these things too much also contributes to increasing one's anxiety and that's never good. If those gestures were that essential, don't you think there would be clear warnings or recommendations from doctors or clinics? Truth is, women get pregnant while intoxicated with all sorts of things, in all sorts of health conditions, they do contact sports, they train, they don't eat well, they smoke, use drugs, they make love after conception, and so on. The fact we don't have so many shots at trying to conceive should not mean that we have to stop living until we get that pregnancy test. Your mental health is super important at any time, and you should not neglect it during the 2ww by doing things that make you stressed or unhappy. Or doing things because people around you are/make you stressed because they're scared you'll have a BFN. If it's meant to be a BFN, lying in bed or avoiding the stairs won't change anything.

Before you do something, take a moment, think hard and ask yourself, "Am I doing this because I'm scared I'll get a BFN and it will be my fault, or am I doing this because it truly makes sense for me?" If the second option is the answer, then by all means, go for it and I'll be right by your side cheering you on.

Hope that helps. :D Good luck for your 2ww sweetie ad I hope you won't make choices that compromise your health. Once those little treasures are inside, you feel like a million bucks! I must have caressed my tummy for hours! ;)

Take care,

Sophie
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Sophie- The list looks great, but my test is June 1. I think you have it on the 25th? Next time you update can you change it?

Thanks!! How are you doing? Ready to trigger soon?
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I saw this article in the St. Louis paper and thought I would share:

"AGE REDEFINED': 60-year-old mother of twins hopes to inspire other women
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05/24/2007

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60-year-old mother of twins says she hopes to inspire other women: 'Age has been redefined'

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HACKENSACK, N.J. (AP) -- The psychologist who gave birth to twin boys at age 60 said Thursday she was on a mission to let women know they have choices.

"It's really basically about women and empowerment," Frieda Birnbaum told NBC's "Today" show.

Birnbaum, who underwent in-vitro fertilization last year at a South African clinic that specializes in older women, gave birth by Caesarean section on Tuesday at Hackensack University Medical Center.

"I don't feel like I went through a lot of trauma during delivery or even through the process of being pregnant," Birnbaum said.

The hospital said she was the nation's oldest mother of twins.

"Age has been redefined," Birnbaum said.

She and her husband, Ken, a New York City attorney, have been married for 38 years and have three other children -- sons ages 33 and 6 and a daughter, 29.

The couple wanted another child closer in age to their youngest son, and Birnbaum's husband said it was his idea for his wife to become pregnant instead of adopting.

"I couldn't be happier about the way it worked out," Ken Birnbaum told "Today."

Their daughter has said she worries about Birnbaum taking care of the twins when they're in their teens and she's in her late 70s -- concerns dismissed by Birnbaum on Thursday.

"I hope I'm a role model for my daughter, that when she gets older that she can make her own decisions based on who she is rather than what society dictates," she said.

She said that people who consider new motherhood at her age inappropriate "need to get ready for what's coming up in our society."

The couple plan to take their sons home on Saturday.
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Hi Everyone!! This thread moves incredibly fast. :lol:....and I love it! It means there's lots of good info being exchanged here. I want to thank all of you for your warm reception and welcome to my post on Tuesday.

CONGRATS to all of you who have received BFPs in the last couple of days.

gbnut - thanks for the welcome. My AF was due on Tuesday but hasn't arrived yet! I'm feeling some really weird things going on in my lower abdominal region, actually it kinda feels like the beginning of pregnancy...but I know that's not the case with these tubes

PMApsy - thank you for welcoming me to the group. I LOVE reading your individual posts and updates...thanks so much for taking the time to keep the tally up-to-date. I especially enjoyed reading the information on bed rest and success rates. My RE does not put his patients on bed rest following ET. Several days ago, I was talking to a co-worker who has had success with IVF. Her dr put her on bedrest for 48 hours and she felt it was her responsibility to inform me that if I really wanted to ensure success with my IVF, that I needed to go in strict bedrest following my ET. I just smiled at her...I didn't feel like arguing the point

daly - how long have you been doing acupuncture? I had my first appt on Tuesday. It was absolutely the most relaxing thing I've ever experienced. Once he got me all hooked up and left out the room, I somehow drifted off into the most peaceful slumber EVER! I felt thorougly relaxed and serene...almost euphoric. I'm going 2x/wk throughout my cycle, then I'll go twice on ET day- both before and after.

Does anyone here workout during their cycle (I'm talking PRIOR to ET)? I teach a kickboxing class called TurboKick. My RE says that I can continue to workout for now (but I'm still waiting for AF :evil: ). The nurse at the RE's office said that I will most likely not feel like working out once I start taking my injectibles. How long did most of you continue to workout during your cycle leading up to ET?

jen779 - thanks for the welcome! 20% is a huge increase for your RE. Good luck on your FET. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

Do any of you guys find it hard to be productive at work when you keep coming back to check the message boards? hee hee
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Dear Jenn,

On the list I wrote that you had blood work done on Friday (May 25th), not your beta, and that your beta was on May 31st... which is exactly what you wrote in your last post:

"So I have 2 snuggling in. I go for bloods on Friday. I think preg. test would be next thursday May 31. "

;) Thanks for letting me know it was not the right info, though, and I changed it right away in the list. Why do you have to go for bloods tomorrow?

Yes, I'm more than ready to trigger tomorrow! :D Getting very excited!

ltaylor: thanks for sharing the article! ;) By the way, is the info related to you still correct on the list?

tpiper55: Hehehe this thread moves real fast because we had so many good news in the last few days! :D It's SO GREAT! :D Plus many of us are in tricky stages, so we post updated info more often. We seem to have the same attitude on several things. Thank you SO MUCH for your comment about my posts; sometimes I feel like I'm rambling about useless stuff and I fear I'm annoying people. :oops: Hehehe your comment about your co-worker made me smile. I guess I'll eventually reach your level and be able to just smile and shut my mouth but LOL for now, I still copy and paste that info over and over... And yes, I did work out and kept dancing flamenco all the way through my first IVF cycle up until EC. Because after EC, I was in pain until ET (minor internal bleeding following the intervention) and after ET, I think you know why. This time, I worked out fine until I started stimming. And then, because the Repronex tends to hurt a couple of hours after my injections, and for up to two days afterwards (for each injection), I didn't feel like working out. I inject in my tummy, so doing abs was out of the question, same for anything that involved jumping. And now, with the big cysts and heavy ovaries, it's trickier. This morning and yesterday morning, I woke up feeling a sharp pain on my right side (full bladder+cyst+surgical adherences+lots of big juicy folliiiiiiiies). It always passes when I lay on my back and bring my knees up, but it gives you an idea. So basically, wait and see what happens. Working out won't have a negative impact on your cycle unless you push it way too far (anorexia-like, know what I mean), and eventually, your body will just send you the message that certain types of exercises are no longer possible. I replaced everything with walking during my 2ww. It kept my mind off IVF and kept me active.

AND YES, LOL, I still haven't started on those articles! I admit it, I gave in... I checked ideas for announcing pregnancy to close friends and relatives... I know, I'm bad. I'll stay away from that from now on... ;)

Take care! I'll turn off that puter now!

Sophie
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tpiper55-

Welcome to the board. I’m not sure about the workout thing but I did do the acupuncture for my last IVF and it worked great! I am also doing it for my FET in June. My first appointment is next week (it was supposed to be this week but the person who does my acupuncture is on vacation).

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May 08 IVF-BFP but miscarried again
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Hello guys,

Feeling a little down at the moment and need to vent and get a hug...

I called my grandma. She's like a mother to me, as I lived with her part-time from the age of 0-4 and then full time till the age of 10-11 (my parents were going through medical school at the time, so both my grandparents raised me part-time; then my father went back to live with his parents after his divorce; I was 4). She cried on the phone, because she had an appointment for her ears last week and the news isn't good. Her hearing has deteriorated even more. She knew it because since Xmas, she realized that it was going even more downhill. But when she told me that she refrained herself from calling me because she didn't want to make me repeat all the time and felt really bad about it... and she cried, I felt like crying, too! And then we had a nice chat about other things (like my perennials, LOL)... and then I couldn't help it. Given that my DH and I had agreed that it was okay to tell her about an eventual BFP before we told anybody else in the family... I told her about my first IVF cycle that failed and about this one.

I feel bad because... I don't know, many reasons and I don't even know if they're silly or not. She said she was really honored that I wanted to tell her about a BFP, for she considers me as a daughter, and she had a big lump in her throat (and me too!). She said that if, God forbid, I had to go through a miscarriage, she would completely understand me (she had 3). She also said she was honored I disclosed top secret info about my IVF cycles, that she would pray for me and that she would keep the secret (of course she will). So she did give some support.

But writing this, I know what makes me feel down a little. I'm disappointed because she does not know what it's like to go through IVF. She doesn't know what it's like to be on the day before your u/s and wait until you get the go ahead for your trigger, thinking about all the black spots you saw on a computer screen the morning before. She doesn't know what it's like to think about your second EC, knowing what it will be like... knowing what waiting for the embies baby-sitter's call on the day before ET will be like... and so on. At first, I thought I was annoyed because given that we never sat down and discussed the details of the procedure, she did not know what the tricky aspects of IVF's processes were about... but it's not that. It's that she does not know what it feels like to go through it.

That made me connect with how alone I feel, you know? I'm here and I'm writing to such an amazing group of women who know EXACTLY what it feels like... and that's such a blessing! But nobody around me does know what all this is about. Not really. That makes me feel so lonely!

And there's also the fact that I had promised myself nobody would know this time... and there I was, telling my grandma about it. Somehow, I feel like I've betrayed myself. I feel silly. Crazy, huh? I had been able to resist the urge so far... I had come this far and now... now it's like I've failed. And for what? I didn't even get what I was looking for... and I can't even get what I'm looking for either!

I guess I should simply be grateful that she gave me the support she could. Be grateful that she'll pray for me. She's very discreet, so... maybe she won't ask about the EC, the ET, the beta... I only mentioned the dates once. And at her age, sometimes she forgets little details, so she might forget about them. Then I would be able to choose my moment for telling her the news. Or not.

Ack, I feel ashamed... I'm not sure I'll tell my DH that I told her... :oops:

Okay, I really need a hug... really gotta read those articles. Maybe it was a mistake to stay at home today; I just can't keep my mind off that IVF process now. It's been going on all day! :D I'm SO useless! Tomorrow is another day and everything will be fine!

Take care lovelies,

Sophie
1st and 2nd IVF = BFN 1st FET BFP! m/c at 7 weeks. 2nd FET BFP! 3rd FET BFN
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