The Over 40 Crowd

BevT · Post by **BevT** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:23 am

Yasmina, just a very quick one as I have to take Wills for some injections v.soon! It sounds to me that maybe you should increase Eloise's formula. William is now on 5 feeds a day of 6 oz together with a couple of very short breast feeds (my milk has all but gone now). He is a few weeks older I know, but weighs around 14lb. I am not yet introducing any baby rice as in the UK they now recommend you don't start weaning until 6 months. Wills is 19 wks and 2 days. I am trying to hold off for another 3 - 4 weeks to give him the best start. Apparently the thinking is now that if you start weaning that bit later, the babies are less likely to develop any food allergies/intolerances.

Speak to your health professionals, I am sure they will reassure you and suggest a way forward.

Bev xxx

teachertam · Post by **teachertam** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:30 pm

Yasmina: I have not started Andrew on solids either. He is still eating 8-10 times a day. I have had a problem with the foremilk/hindmilk. He is getting too much foremilk and not enough hindmilk. I have stopped pumping during the day, only if the breast is too full for him to nurse.
I have been losing a lot of hair too. When I wash my hair and brush it, a lot of hair comes out. I don't know if that is do to the low estrogen or not.
Andrew is just about 3.5 months old.

China has tightened regulations on international adoption including: age, length of marriage, health of parents, weight of parents, net assets of parents, age of youngest child in household, etc. If we were to use the new guidelines, we would not qualify now, since we have not been married 5 years. You need to be married 5 years if there ihas been a divorce.

Regards,
Tammy

babyblue · Post by **babyblue** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:26 pm

Tammy, I didn't know about the length of marriage restriction. That would put us out also. DH knows of a couple here that was turned down due to the parents weight limit. It is really a shame that our laws have made it so undesirable to adopt in the U.S. Not a lot of couples want to adopt and then a year down the road have that child taken away from them because the birth mother changed her mind. For DH and private adoptions in the U.S., he has a hard time dealing with the strings that are still attached. Meaning that the birth mother wants to visit, have photos and updates sent to her periodically. Our attorney told us of one couple that the birth mother was at their house for every Christmas. I'm not looking to pay a hefty sum to be a baby sitter or the "other" mommy. Sorry, had to vent a bit. We have already started the first steps for a private adoption, but I think DH and I both were blown away after talking to the attorney. He said that these are the same reasons that so many couples go internationally for adoption, because they know the mother will not come over here to bring their child back and the birth mothers don't require visits, correspondence, etc. We were personnally asked by a school teacher about 8 weeks ago if we would be interested in adopting because there was a girl (from out of state) that was expecting and she had recommended us (knowing that we were going through infertility unsuccessfully and our religious background) to this girl. I was shocked, since we had not discussed adoption at all. We had to make a quick decision (1 day) and contact an attorney, and provide a portfolio - which we did. This girl was supposedly to meet with this same attorney the first of May, and we have not heard anything since. I assume she chose another family or backed out of the adoption choice. I would love to have more children whether adoption or by birth. DH has much harder time with adoption than I do. I am praying that the DE option works for us.

Bev, did you get your precious William the first try on DE? He sounds precious. Sounds like you have had some very short nights. Do the Drs. not recommend adding cereal to the breast milk? I had to do that with DS at about 3 or 4 months. I breastfed Max for 9 months. He will be 8 yrs in 2 weeks and has no food allergies. He is very healthy, matter of fact the only 7 yr old I've seen that orders salads when we go out and loves broccoli.

All you new moms are in my prayers for some needed sleep and hopefully some "mommy" time.

Kim

babyblue · Post by **babyblue** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:32 pm

Yasmina and Bev, so sorry - got you two mixed up on my last post.

Yasmina you are the one that is suddenly getting less sleep. Have you tried cereal in with the breast milk or does Dr. not recommend this?

Bev, sounds like you have William on a good schedule right now.

Sorry ladies.
Kim

teachertam · Post by **teachertam** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:23 pm

Kim,

The deadline for dossier submittal (for China) to still be under the old rules was May 2007. The new rules are much more strict about health issues of the parents also. You cannot be on any form of anti-depressant either. Our log in date is June 9th, 2006. It has almost been 1 year from today. Domestic adoptons here in the states is scary. A friend told me that I should go through the foster care program............"Foster to Adopt". There is no way that I could do that. I would get all attached to the little child and then the mother would get out of jail, kick her crack habit and want her baby back. I remember a situation in Chicago a few years back where the biological mother regained custody of her 3 or 4 year old after the adopted parents had him for his entire life. I could not give a baby back after raising it for 3+ years. I would have to leave the country and be on the run. I do hope that your donor egg cycle works for you. My DH has a more difficult time with adoption too. He is concerned about the bonding issues.

Take care all,
Tammy

children · Post by **children** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:29 pm

Hi all,

My biggest concern with adoption at the moment is that I could be very sad for the mother who let us take her baby away. I am trying to convince myself that I will adopt one whose mother would let the baby die or stay in an orphanage. I wanted to adopt a Chinese little girl because I heard that some Chinese girls are given up by their parents because one child policy - prefer to have boys. Now with the changes in policies, we may need to revisit this decision.

Kim, I have several adopted friends who feel much closer to their adopted parents than the biological ones, which made me believe open adoption won’t make me feel like babysitting.

Bev, Tammy, and Kim, thanks for the suggestions about introducing solids – I will ask doctor soon at her 4-month check up visit. She is now 3.5 month. Bev, Eloise is the same age as Wills’ adjusted age. I think you are right – I need to feed her more. I believe that people do breastfeeding often do it longer than 4 month, I just don’t know how anyone can do breastfeeding exclusively for a year - I do not think that I have enough milk to satisfy a fast growing baby! I try not to feed too much formula in case that will inhibit my milk to come. However, this did not work, I simply don’t have a full breast unless I wait for 8 hours now – I used to have full breast within 4~6 hours.

Bev, I would not wean Eloise even if I succeeded to feed her solids now. I just wanted to supplement some solids to make sure that she is not hungry too fast.

Tammy, you are right about that hair loss is related hormonal changes, so is milk production. About the foremilk and hindmilk issue, I normally feed Eloise one breast at a time, unless one is completely dry due to frequent feeding – this happens at weekends. If I pump, which I do at work, I only pump one breast (~4 oz) at a time completely to make sure all the hindmilk is out.

Sonix · Post by **Sonix** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:34 pm

Hi everyone,

GeckoGirl & Kim, good to see you’re making good progress on the egg donor route. So there are now quite a few of us waiting to get going. I do hope 2007 is going to be a good year for us all.
About percentages for DE treatment, our new Doc gave us around 50-70% before he knew much about our case. I don’t really like thinking in percentages. Up to now we’ve always belonged to that portion that gets the bad news but nevertheless, there is some quite encouraging news here and on other forums. So I’m presently living in hope for as long as I can and do occasionally find myself getting excited about starting my DE cycle. Also, I’m doing a few things that I or my Docs think could improve chances (which is keeping me occupied with appointments, blood tests etc.) Keep up the PMA.
Ali – Have you decided when to go ahead with your next treatment cycle? Waiting is always a pain but giving your body more time to regenerate definitely sounds right for you. Good that your specialist is giving you confidence and support.

Jen – how are you getting on? I suppose you’ll be getting your test results soon and will be making your first appointment. Can’t believe we’re well into June already. Must be your big birthday around now – have a great time celebrating. Do keep us posted.

A big hello to everyone else. Kat – enjoy your trip to Singapore!

We're just getting ready for a week's holiday break in Italy. We were at the same place last year for a few days whilst I was on my 1st 2ww. This time I'll be joining in all the sports and enjoying a few glasses of wine too.

Take care all!
Sonia
xxx

babyblue · Post by **babyblue** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:44 pm

Good to hear from you Sonia. When will you be doing your DE cycle? Trying to keep up here - but how many do we have here that are preparing or starting a DE cycle? I hope we all join Yasmina, Tammy and Bev soon with healthy and beautiful babies.

Sonia, our RE also gave us high percentages for DE. I am getting excited about getting started but also trying not to go into this thinking it is a guaranteed thing.

Kim

jen babes · Post by **jen babes** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:55 pm

hi all

sorry i have not posted for a while...i did write out a post last night which took me nearlt 30 mins but lost it while trying to post. For me this site is taking ages to download each post? It is sooooooooooo sloooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww...Anyone else have the same problem?

Sonia Yes i have my BIG 40 next monday. Dh is up to something a i caught him on the phone to my mum 2 days ago. and hastely made sure my mum knew i had walked into the room by saying oh hi jen !!!! Hope it's just a family get together couldn't do a big surprise party. Hope i am nort being ungrateful but totally feel that 40 is just a number and feel fine about turning 40 so don't want a fuss. on a good note we have FINALY made our appointment in spanish Donor clinic. Our 1st apointment is 3rd Aug, if all ok we will be set up with a donor and should transfer 6-8wks later so testing October!!!! seems ages away but in fact not long until the bal is rolling. Bloods came back A okay and Dh goes for sperm analysis here next week. So should have all the paperwork well in time for going to Spain.Hotel and flights all booked soooooooooooo looking forward to getting started. It's been over a year since last ivf ( because of money being spent on our wedding) and it seems ages since we last went. anyway as you say lets all keep the PMA.

babyblue i too am at aloss where eveyone is too. why don't we start a new update list....who knows the most about everyone on this over 40 thread? It used to be Anna that did it...anyway for awaitng tmt i have appointment in barcelona 3rd aug for DE.

hi to the yummy mummies and their little beautful babes...

hi to Kat in Singapore hope your having a great time with your siser

and a big hi to everyne else....

love jen

xxxxx

jen babes · Post by **jen babes** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:18 pm

mummies please feel free to change anything that is wrong and add in babies birthdays appointments for injections, clinc days etc.
For the rest of s please add in what you want including any new appoinments etc ...it would make things much easier for me cause i am not good at keeping up. thanks so much as i want to here to support you.

To add please just click the QUOTE button on this post, take out the quote [quote jen babes] [/quote] boxes beginning and end of the full post. delete all my writing then add in what you need and post as usual...Good luck and thanks for helping me see where we all are

Hope you are all okay with this

much love
jen
xxxx

UPDATE LIST

Sucessful Mummies Given birth:

Tammy- baby Andrew born 28th Feb 07 natural preg.
Bev-baby William ( Wills) born
Yasmina -baby Eloise born
Anna -baby Matthew born feb? 07 DE

June

Kat- On holday in Singapore
Sonia- holiday to italy
18th Jen- Big 40 birthday

July

12th Jen- gettng kitchen tiled

August
3rd Jen- 1st appointment @ Im Barcelona for DE

September

October

November

babyblue · Post by **babyblue** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:17 pm

UPDATE LIST

Sucessful Mummies Given birth:

Tammy- baby Andrew born 28th Feb 07 natural preg.
Bev-baby William ( Wills) born
Yasmina -baby Eloise born
Anna -baby Matthew born feb? 07 DE

June

Kat- On holday in Singapore
Sonia- holiday to italy
18th Jen- Big 40 birthday
end of mo.- Kim gets word from selected ED (shared - Aug; not shared - Oct)

July

12th Jen- gettng kitchen tiled

August
3rd Jen- 1st appointment @ Im Barcelona for DE

September

October

November

jen babes · Post by **jen babes** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:40 pm

thanks Kim

Good to have a time line for your EggDonor ...hope it all comes together sooner in Aug for you. But then again having more eggs to freeeze in Oct is just as good. Both have positives. x x

love jen
xxxx

Sonix · Post by **Sonix** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:48 pm

Hi all,

Just back from hols and popping in quickly to say:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JEN!!!!!!! Have a great time celebrating.

Good to read your posts and thanks for starting the update list! I'll fill in my dates as soon as I have more time.

Hi to everyone else

Sonia
xxx

P.S. Yes, I've been having problems with lost posts and really slow downloads etc. too. I often write my posts in MS Word and copy them in so if the post is lost during submitting (happens all the time with me

) at least my text is saved.

babyblue · Post by **babyblue** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:28 pm

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JEN!!!!!!!

Jen, hope you are having a wonderful day today.

Sonia, how was Italy? Hope your trip was relaxing and fun.

We changed our selection on our ED today. We have debated and prayed about this for a week. Just not comfortable with her family health history. The one we are now going with will be in September. She is cycling right now, but I'm not sure we can get in on a shared cycle at this time. September is not a bad month - that is my birthday.

Two ladies (my housekeeper, 40; and friend at church, 44) have just found out they are pregnant. Surprise to both of them. The 44 yr old has twin 2 yr old sons which were accident. I am so happy for them both, but still reminded how having babies is not a matter of want or these boards wouldn't exist. I still keep my faith in God strong through many many prayers every day. And all you ladies are included in those prayers.

Hugs to you all,
Kim

teachertam · Post by **teachertam** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:28 am

Hello Ladies:

Happy 40th Jen!!!! 40 is not so bad. For me, 30 was a more difficult birthday than 40. Did DH have a surprise party for you?

Kim: I'm glad to hear that you have your donor cycle worked out.

Sonia: Where did you go in Italy? I have been to northern Italy and really liked it. Of course it was on business and would have been a lot more fun if it had been on holiday. I hope you had a good time.

Bev, Anna and Yasmina,

How big are your babies? I weighed Andrew on the bathroom scales yesterday and he weighed 18 lbs!!!!! He is not even 4 months old yet. He will be 4 months on 6/28. I don't know where he gets his size, as DH and I are just average sized parents. I bought another crib for him, as the pack and play that he had been sleep in had a 15 lb limit! His nice crib is upstairs and I don't want to put him upstairs (my bedroom is downstairs) and DH does not want to take the nice crib apart and reassemble it downstairs. It seems that I'm always buying something for him.

Hello to everyone else.

Regards,
Tammy

The Over 40 Crowd

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