Pheonixes Rising

[jen babes]

Nicki-
i start BC pills at next Af. Which is due 28th Aug...we will see if she is behaving herself after last 2 months blip.

Lisa you do do well on hols even on the nhs. When i worked with them i had a total of32 days inc bank hols. If we wanted X-mas off we had to use a holiday!!!! Hope you got out of your PJ's before lunching with your friend!!!! As Nicki said BC pills are birth control pills. They use them as a down reg to hold my cycle. When donor and i are in sync i start eostrogen pathes and come off the bc pills. It's amazing to think that there is someone out there willing to go through a cycle for no real reward of a baby!

Broc is back to his old mischevious self after his stint in kennels...he's such a loving big lump a total SOOK!!!! ( WHAT WE IN SCOTLAND CALL SOMEONE WHO IS SUCKING UP TO US) wanting cuddles all of yesterday and whining when Ad and i went upsatirs. ( he's not allowed up there)

Don't know where the sun has gone today ass it's totally pissing it down...so yeuky it could be an autumn day. Catching up with wasshing ain't onna happen today.

anayway must dash now
lots of love
jenxxx

[Julie2039]

Hello Girls - Hope you had a good weekend

Nikki - Big hugs to you. this roller coaster is really throwing you up and down at the moment aint it. You are right to let it all out rather than bottle it up and men (as loving as they can sometimes be ha ha) rarely understand. Hope you are friends again now and glad you felt better yesterday. Great news to hear AF arrived (albeit painful!) - at least all on track. Any luk booking the holiday? xx

Lis - Your mat pay sounds good to me. I get 6 weeks at 90% then £112 a week off the government. This is the one time I regret having a well paud job as we are going to feel it. I am a very organised control freak so have sorted my sums already and will finish December and go back late August so will have 9 months off. Hope you manage to get the time you want. Went pram shopping Saturday with my nan as she is buying it for me and put a deposit on one. lovely! Traditional four wheel lie flat that turns into a buggy. Did you have a successful shopping trip? As for my mum she remarried and has been remarried for 28 years! Hers and dads marriage was very volatile and she ended it. She just can't bear to be in the same room as him as don't think she got over the way he treated her - justified - but so long ago I think she needs to put us as children first now as not a good position for us to be piggies in the middle is it.

Kate - Your feelings are natural. I got loads of twinges, stretching, shooting pains, stitches (especially early morning) and they are all good signs but I worried when i got them and sometimes worry now when I don't. Feel free to post/mail with any questions because although it is exciting it is quite worrying at times! Take it easy is what I say. Bet you are still both on cloud 9. I agree that the scan wait was far more agonising than the test wait and you get more impatient as time passes.

Jen - So glad that Barcelona went so well. Great info re DH and the rubber glove and so happy to hear he was satisfied with the service!!!!! hee hee. Interesting how things differ from here and glad to hear about the donors. You sound so excited about it all and I am so happy for you. The 60% is fabulous and you must be feeling great about the prospect. Can't wait for you and Nicki to get on the BFP board!!!! You take it easy - don't be overdoing things!! Glad Broc is happy and demanding - sounds like he enjoyed his little break too xx

Hope Lucy/Gail are both ok? x

As for me weekend was good. Went to a nice wedding reception Saturday eve (DH's boss's daughter). Was taken aback when saw the bride as was a jordan replica (minus the boobs) complete with pink wedding dress. Certianly not my choice but was nice all the same. Went pram shopping and ordered pram and think (think) I felt the baby move on Saturday.....like grumbling and bubbling on one side. Felt weird but sure it was that. Nothing since tho. Will keep you posted.

ta ta for now xxxxxxxxxxx

[Kate21]

Afternoon girls,

Hope you all had a good weekend?

Nickie - no worries re the txting, thats what we are here for!! I went through a stage of being a complete b***ch to Greg, just coulnd't help myself. Thankfully we got through it and we are now stronger than ever, you and Mark will be the same - it just takes time. Glad to see the PMA is back tho!

Jen - excellent news about Barcelona, 60%....such fantastic odds. 6 is definitely the lucky number, especially with such a great percentage of success. That must make you feel so positive. The woman thats doing it must be such a wonderful human being, especially as you say there will be no baby at the end of the road for her (but there will be for you)- makes you have faith in human kind again doesn't it?

Julie - thanks for the words of advice! It doesn't get any easier does it? I thought the worry would be over after the 2WW, but oh no this is much worse!!! That wedding sounds like a sight to see...a Jordan type dress? How did she manage to move and dance, or did she just stand there looking pretty? At least she had a lovely day for it tho

Lisa - lucky you re mat pay!! I don't think I want to think about what I won't get - too depressing!! One of the downsides to having a well paid job, I will definitely notice not having any money!! Ther party was good, quite amusing watching the others get very drunk! I'm also hungrey all the time, within an hour of eating I'm hungrey again!! Will have to watch that, otherwise I'll end up looking like a bus by the end of 9mths!!

Lucy, Gail - hope you guys are doing ok?

As for me, had a nice relaxing weekend, although Saturday was a bit hot!! The mild cramping now seems to have disappeared, so now I'm worrying about that!! It seems to have been replaced by a stitch like feeling, which if what Julie says is right, is perfectly normal. I just want the 23rd to get here so I can see for myself and actually allow myself to feel pregnant!!!

Anyway, enjoy your day, catch you later

Kate

[gailp]

Kate the worrying never ends Its all well worth it though. I had AF pains for weeks and was shaking like a leaf when we went for 1st scan, but once you see that heartbeat its fantastic. I think with IVF / IUI it's hard sometimes to believe that its actually worked and it doesn't sink in properly until you see your baby on the monitor. I have been very lucky with work and get 14 weeks full pay and 12 weeks half pay, I did miss out by a week on the SMP for a further 12 weeks that the goverment brought in from April though. If you have any questions feel free to ask.

Julie that certainly sounds as if that was the baby moving, its a very weird feeling at the begining but once Katie started to kick she didn't stop! I have a travel system that has a lay flat pram and converts into a pushchair they really are great. The wedding sounds a laugh, not sure about the dress though!

Jen its all getting really exciting for you now and so close as well, your right egg donors are fantastic people. 60 % odds are fab, cant wait to see a BFP from you. Im glad you had a nice time away as well.

Lisa you must leave work very shortly, the time will fly by and then you wont have a second to yourself and you will struggle to get out of your PJ's then I did always manage to get out of mine but the early days there seemed to be a million and one things to do the minute Katie went to sleep. It gets much smoother as time goes on.

Lucy hope you are ok, miss you on here.

Nicki sorry you are having a rough time at the moment, flippin hormones Good for you booking holidays, Christmas away will be great, I have always fancied doing that but just never got round to it. Sending you bucket loads of PMA and a big hug.

Katie is keeping me very busy at the moment she has learnt to roll onto her tummy but she can only roll back rarely so she screams out to be put back on her back and then rolls straight back over again. Swimming is going well, she really loves the water. Must go as got to give her tea, Sweet potato, carrot and parsnips, yummee!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jen babes]

WOW!!!! 2 pregnant ladies and a yummy mummy posting one after the other on this thread..lovely to see it made me smile

By the way i found another 6...it took me naturally 6 months after 1st pregnancy ( ectopic) to conceive again ( 2nd ectopic)...


Julie- had lots of laughs at the Jordon style dress, poor girl will look back, hide the phots and have a good cry of why!!!!!! about it all later life .( i was married before ( at 20 ) and my 80's dress sure did look a treat 5 years on ....NOT! ) But as long as Jordon had a fab day that is what matters. Did you take ages to choose a pram and when do you get it???? HOw exciting for you that you felt the baby move !!!!!

Gail good to hear that Katie (rolly poly) little one is keeping you on your toes...


kate It's amazing the worry isn't it...think it's cause we take so long to get preg in the first place. I can't rremmber worrying when i had 1st preg until i started bleeding at 10wks ( ectopic) but i am hoping that after 1st scan you rest up and enjoy the preg more...wihen do you go back to work and your new job ??? Our schools here go back in Aug as they finish June.

love to everyone
jen
xxxx

[nicolamark]

Wow, what a busy page today!!!

Lovely to hear from ya gail, and wow Katie is growing up so quickly!!!

Kate, and julies bless ya little hearts, cant wait to join ya little clique!!!

Jen, me too, i am looking every where for lucky no 6 and today is the 6th ad ive called clinic to book scan so hey thats another 6!!!

Yes, i have first folly scan on mon...... sorted with work too, my boss will tell every1 im at dentist, and then i return in afternoon..... yahoo!!!

So now follys grow!!!!

Have decided to carry on as normal, eat normal not get obsessed with certain food that i shoul or should be eating at certain times of my cycle to help what ever hormones etc... drink if i fancy one and chill out......
I am feeling heaps better, and dh and i are fine too, have kissed ad made up!!!
all good here!!!

Im meeting my friend wednesday, shes my bestest friend from before dh existed when i was at college...... and her hubbys in MOD she lives down in devon now, so hardly see her, once or twice a year....... her mum lives near me so she often up here, more than i get to devon...... only been to hers once in yonks..... anyway, im gonna say to her parhaps we could have dinner together with out her kids, not tha i have anything against them, it'll be great to see her with out them keep going on... they are 5 and 3 and 2 baby twins too, so very demaning!!! parhaps her mum will look after them for a while......
Yes, she knows about tmt's and is the only friend who understands and cares, no one else could give 2 shits, but she does care.... a true friend, shame we have over 200 miles betwee us!!!

So looking fwd to wed......

Gotta whizz off, dinner is ready....... sorry if i made errors have quickly typed this tonight!!!!

Love to ya all xxx

[nicolamark]

Wow, what a busy page today!!!

Lovely to hear from ya gail, and wow Katie is growing up so quickly!!!

Kate, and julies bless ya little hearts, cant wait to join ya little clique!!!

Jen, me too, i am looking every where for lucky no 6 and today is the 6th ad ive called clinic to book scan so hey thats another 6!!!

Yes, i have first folly scan on mon...... sorted with work too, my boss will tell every1 im at dentist, and then i return in afternoon..... yahoo!!!

So now follys grow!!!!

Have decided to carry on as normal, eat normal not get obsessed with certain food that i shoul or should be eating at certain times of my cycle to help what ever hormones etc... drink if i fancy one and chill out......
I am feeling heaps better, and dh and i are fine too, have kissed ad made up!!!
all good here!!!

Im meeting my friend wednesday, shes my bestest friend from before dh existed when i was at college...... and her hubbys in MOD she lives down in devon now, so hardly see her, once or twice a year....... her mum lives near me so she often up here, more than i get to devon...... only been to hers once in yonks..... anyway, im gonna say to her parhaps we could have dinner together with out her kids, not tha i have anything against them, it'll be great to see her with out them keep going on... they are 5 and 3 and 2 baby twins too, so very demaning!!! parhaps her mum will look after them for a while......
Yes, she knows about tmt's and is the only friend who understands and cares, no one else could give 2 shits, but she does care.... a true friend, shame we have over 200 miles betwee us!!!

So looking fwd to wed......

Gotta whizz off, dinner is ready....... sorry if i made errors have quickly typed this tonight!!!!

Love to ya all xxx

[jen babes]

Nicki
so good to hear you are sounding and feeling better...just want to send you a BIG GROW FOLLIES GROW!!!! good luck on monday x x x

much love to ya hun

jen
xxx

[gailp]

Nicki, Katie and I are doing a follies dance for you. wishing you all the luck in the world for monday xx

[Julie2039]

Hello!!!

The sun is still shining.

Fist of all NIKKI - so glad you are sounding more chipper. Enjoy time with your friend and GOOD LUCK for folly scan. You know we are always her eif you need a winge/cry/moan/laugh. You take time to get yourself in a positive frame of mind because IT WILL WORK, IT WILL!!!!!!!!!! xxx

Gail - Katie sounds so devine. Can picture you both doing your folly jig! Glad she enjoys the water. I am terrified of deep water even now!

Jen - I agree the dress was far too much and yes I think she may live to regret it....! As for the pram we mulled over a couple and the one we picked won more because the chassis is a lot smaller and will fit in my boot! Pick it up just before the birth. hee hee. Still can't believe it!!!

Kate - I got a really bad stitch most mornings when i got up. Very sharp and short lasting but I believe it is stretching and the fact not moved for so long. You will prob find AF pains return for a short time and then hopefully they will go and be replaced by some other mind agonising feeling! I go through spurts of being hungry. today I am STARVING and have just eaten steak pudding, chips, peas and gravy rather than my usual sarnie and oh boy it was good!!! Hope dont get into that habit tho....

hi to everyone else xxxxxxxxxx

[jen babes]

hullo Pheonixes

Julie- beanie is obviously on a growing spurt, and must be loving the steak and kidney pie Greedy wee tyke lol.
buying a pram must be an amazing feeling, can't wait to get to that stage...PLEASE notice my strong PMA here!!!!!! ( hope it lasts) AS for the weather...it's wild wet and windy up here...yeuk more like autumn than summer. really you daren't fly a kite incase you take off!!!!! x x

Gail -like the image a Julie says about little Katie doing a follie dance...as she rolls om to her tummy and can't get back up again...a bit like this little hamster ( no not richard hammond, just little hamster) x x

Nicki keep up the PMA girl cause your next For that BFP!!!! x x x
I am glad you are keeping the stress levels down this time...good on ya hun. x x

lucy i see by the list you got appointment with clinic in september...hope to see you clocking in and saying hi to us then...enjoy your hols in Turkey i think your away at the end of the month. See i do hope that you still take a sneaky peek at us pheonixes now and then even tho you don't post. much love to ya ...wee do miss ya xx

Kate- how's our newest preggy belly doing today. Bet you are so glad it's the summer and you don't need to go to work. Roll on the end of the month scan. It's so good to hear you and julie/gail talking about early twinges cause nicki lucy and i will need all that guidance too !!!! x x

Well as for me it's so bloody cold here today ( and windy) that i am in the process of making fish pie with sweet potato mash. It's comfort food cause Ad and iain't feeling to well. Having waves of nausea and hot sweats. 1 minute i am doing ok and next i feel yeuky, so fish pie has taken ages to prepare. How can you feel hungry and sick at the same time...reminds me of morning sickness But of course Adam is worse than me ( men ). Anyway the only other thing thats going on is AF...yes you've guessed it the ***** has started with me again. (14 days after last bleed) Have mega cramps but like the past bleeds ( every 3-4 days month june-julty then every 14 days in lasst month ) don't really know if she will stay. I am meant to take bc pills after next AF so will see it still there tomorrow and then email IM. I have the GP's tomorrow to ask her help to set up a private scan for pre ET. ( some 8 weeks away i hope ) so will see how that goes ...

much love to you all x x

jen
xxx

[luby]

Remember me.....???????????

What a night mare I've had with my PC, I had a virus on it so it went away to be sorted out, I got it back, only to find out they hadn't done their job properly, my PC still wasn't working, so had to send it off again, I've only just got it back today.. I haven't been able to post from work as I don't even get the time to me myself a cuppa there, I'm so busy..

I feel so bad that I've missed so much, a lot of catching up o do, so here goes:

Firstly I have to congratulate you Kate, OMG, that is great news, I cried when I read your post, I still can't believe it, I am sooooooo happy for you and DH, you take it easy now, good that you're off work too....6th must defo be the lucky number.. Well done you.. the others girls are right, the worrying doesn’t stop, I don't think it will stop until you have your baby in your arms, then you'll just worry while there growing up, it’s never ending..!!! Enjoy... Whhoooo Hoooooo, I'm so chuffed for you hun. I am so sorry that I wasn't able to wish you well with ET etc, but you obviously didn't my good luck wishes.. xxxxxxx

Now in no particular order:

Jen - OMG, can't believe you've been to Barcelona already, I'm so glad to hear everything went OK, apart from the whom biopsy, aw, doesn’t sound too nice, but all worth it huh.? Wow, 60% chance that is fantastic, I'm so excited for you.! You and Adam must be very excited too.? I am sorry I wasn't able to wish you well before you went. When do you go back now then? Hope you enjoyed the fish pie and you start to feel better soon. Thanks for thinking of me hun, I didn't forget any of you, I have really missed not being able to post. xxx bloody technology.! Think is, we don’t realise how much we rely on it...!!! Take Care. x

Nicki - Hope you're OK, how was Italy, bet that seems ages ago to you, haven’t spoken to you since you went.! Well I've just read your doing back to back IUI's, I'm so keeping everything crossed that Aug is the one for you, it totally normal to get upset hun, look at what you've been through, its impossible not to think about the "what-ifs" stay strong babe. As for the adoption, Mark may come round the idea but maybe he wants to explore these other avenues you have in front of you first, maybe once you've tried every avenue, he may then come round to the adoption idea. Hope work is ok, take Care hun, speak soon - if you ever need to chat, about anything you can ring me or just send us a txt, I'll mail you my number. Thinking of you.!!!! xx

Julie - Hi hun, hope you're OK, can't believe you're 17.5wks, where does the time go, it only seems like a few weeks ago I was reading you'd just found out your BFP... Thanks for asking of me, I've really missed logging on here. I can't believe you've felt the baby move, that must be an incredible feeling. Any names yet then?? I think you'll be having a boy.! The wedding you went to sounds like it was fun, did she go all out "Jordan" style, big hair, tiara, wand etc.? As long as she enjoyed the day, that’s all that matters.! Anyway hun take Care of your self.! Speak soon

Lisa - 32 wks, OMG, not long for you to go now, have you decided on a name yet.? I noticed you said you're little 'princess', you aren't planning on doing a Jordan too are you.? I'm sorry you've been having probs with your mum, its hard when you're parents are separated, I hope one day she comes round.! Glad you enjoyed your time at the parties..! I also work for the NHS and I agree its great getting the hols and the paid/half pay MAT pay, we get 9 months off though not 11. Will you go back p/t or f/t.? Not long now until your hols start. Take Care hun

Gail - Hope you and Katie are doing OK? Does Katie still go swimming.? What have you been up to? Bet she is getting big now isn't she? Take Care care.x

Hope I haven't missed anyone, I will send Souris an email to her personal address later this evening.

Sorry if I've missed anything out, there was a lot to get through.

Not much happening for me, work OK, could be better I suppose, but I won't bore you with the details. Looking forward to my hol, not long now, 3rd Sept I go. I've been Hol clothes shopping, got a few bits, essentials you, know, new bikinis, new sunglasses, new shorts, etc - I could of prob done with the stuff I already had, but you know us girls, always want new.!!! Jen - you’re right Tony didn't come with me last year, I went to my mums, he wasn't well then so stayed home, he doesn't fancy coming on this one.! Oh well, gives me a nice break away (that sounds awful doesn’t it?)

Had day off work today because it was Tony's birthday we went out for some lunch, weather was ok, just really windy.!!!

As for my appt with my consultant, haven't heard anything yet, I've got an appointment with the professor of the fertility clinic, where I have my collection and transfer, I have my tmt at 2 different clinics, I have scans, blood etc at one clinic and the collection and transfer at another clinic, it’s this clinic I'm seeing the professor. Hope that makes sense.

Right in need of some food, been on here hours catching up, I'm belly is growling at me. Take care everyone. Really missed you guys. I've been staying to the comp, whilst tying, please don't conk out, please don't conk out.! It’s not even that old, bloody virus..

Not sure when doing another cycle, hopefully Oct, if I can get funds together.!

Love to you all

Lucy

[Julie2039]

Hi Jen - Hope you and Adam are feeling much better today!! and hope the weather is better too. It is gorgeous here again! I think summer may be arriving ..... Good luck with the emails/calls xx

LUCY - Good to hear from ya!!! Wedding was dress a big frilly pink affair with a pink/diamante bodice and a tiara - smaller than Jordans and minus the wand but very OTT I thought. As for names.....we have thought of a girls name we are hoping to stick to but sturggling for a boy. Nothing stands out for either of us really. DH doesn't like what I like and vice versa....Hope you hear on the appointment front soon xxx

Hi to everyone else xxx

[jen babes]

Hi gals

LUBY LUBY LUBY LUBEEE ( sang to Kiaser Chiefs ruby!!!!!) How fab t here from you. Sorry you have had such a nightmare time with PC some times i hate the ruddy thngs other times like now i am sitting in the garden wi fi-ing in th sun good news on the spoiing self to holiday stuff...it's gotta be done!!!! Anywy so good to hear from ya and that you are doing ok. x x x xx x

Julie- we are feeling better today ...still a bit woozy but on the mend. thanks for asking. Know what you mean about names...dh and i have chosen various girlie names that keep changing and have 1 boy name thats ok. its difficult but the right name will ome alomg at the rihght mement...i have trust and faith in ya...are you following the Jordon theme and calling baby (if girl) Princess!!!!!! lol

Well today i ame back from the gp to find Broc ( ow 11months old and obviously hungry) had eatten many pages in my diary( it's actually a filofax that i have had for 8 yrs...with everything in it think of all the phone numbers and addresses ) AND munched his way through my ORIGINAL notes from ivf clinic in my IM folder...lucky enough most of them were salvage-able although many bite marks in them anyway i went to GP to see about continuale bleed/staining. She was soooooooooo helpful and prescribed progesterone only for days 12-26 CD...then AF will come in 3 days. So it will take the edge off my worry knowing the prog should stop the breakthru bleeding and not interfere with my cycle. This GP is new to me (2nd time i have seen her since move house). She has gone thru ivf in Harley street and now has twins. Spoke to her about my pre ET scan of womb lining for IM and progesterone pesseries when i get BFP!!! ( spot the PMA ladies) and she will prescribe on NHS...NO NEED TO GO PRIVATE. I love this GP, can totally let go of any stress or worries surrounding tmt here in scotland now. Whoooo *breathes a sigh of relief* smiles all round

my love to all you pheonixes (other personals are 3 posts back x x)


jen
xxx

[Kate21]

Evening!!

Lucy - great to hear from you and that things are going well. PC's are a total nightmare - we have just got broadband at home and it makes such a difference - so much quicker!!! Thanks for your well wishes - still hasn't sunk in yet and I doubt it will until the first scan. The worry is still there and I'm constantly thinking Af is about to start, I know I should try and enjoy it but the worry is a nightmare!!

Jen - your GP sounds like a dream! Why can't they all be like that, but then I suppose people have to experience things first hand before they fully appreciate what we have to go thro - sounds like she totally understands!! As for Broc - what a little sod!! At least you managed to salvage most of the important stuff!!

Nickie - how's you my dear? PMA still strong I hope? Lucky number 6 don't forget - hope the folly scan is good x

Julie - my AF pains were replaced by other pains yesterday, almost like ovary pain. It kept swapping sides, but the worry is still there! As for the hunger, I am starving most of the time and have to force myself not to eat all the time!!

Lisa - hope you and little princess are doing well - did you get some more stuff for her?

Gail - hop0e you and Katie are stilol enjoying the swimming? She could be our next olympic champion!!

As for me, I have made it to week 5 - how many more to go?...35? How will I cope for another 35 weeks of worry? And after that it will then only get worse as I'll then be worrying about the baby!!! Bloody hell Oh well, they never said life was easy did they?!!! The last week has been the slowest of my life, I have been analysing every twinge and pain and thinking 'oh my god what is that?' Enough, I must stop!! I have my step daughter for the next 4 days which will kepp me occupied and then DH and I have our second wedding anniversary on Monday - we are going to have a double celebration after the scan on the 23rd.

Anyway, enjoy the weekend girls, will catch you later

Kate