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Hello Ladies,
U can say I have been a voyer for the past 7 months. I am getting ready as I type for my first progesterone shot, any advicc???
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Hi, I am new to this chat thing too. I am just writing to say hi. I have not done the progesterone shots yet. I am still at the beginning phase of IVF. I will begin the FSH shots in two days. Any advice for me? Good luck with the progesterone shots. Let me know how it goes. I am curious and a few weeks behind you.
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Hi Chriss,

I had my Transfer done today, with ne lonely embryo but the doc said it was a grade A, it was a very cool experience. I am on my 3rd Progesterone shot they are the worst, the first night my DH was so great that I todl him he was the best , almost yelled it out loud. i was thinking to myself, these women just need someone who knows how to give a shot. Well, 1 hour later I felt like i had a charlie horse in my right cheek. This is all my first time, but i will tell u that I was on Lupron shots and they hurt more. I iced the area for about 35minutes before letting him at me :). Good Luck to you. Let me know how your cycle goes
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Hi TDJ156,
It's chriss again. It's very exciting that you had your transfer today! Now you have to rest up. I know you've heard it all before, but remember... it only takes one. I am scared about the progesterone shots. I didn't have any pain with the Lupron, I've just been an emotional wreck. I hope my husband is able to get the needle in. Is it much harder than the Sub-q shots? I'm wishing you well. It's great to be able to chat with other people who are going through this isn't it? Talk to you soon. Chriss
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Hey Chriss,
I am resting for sure, working from home till the 18th. My mom is up from florida to take care of my every need :) or basically to make sure my husband has a hot meal when he gets home and my dogs have water :)
When you are ready for the progesterone, I will give u a step by step of what we are doing and it truly is ok. The after affects kind of suck, with the mauscle pain but its not as scary as I thought.
Where exactly in your cycle are you? I'm glad I can offer advice to someone, I have tried to educate myself so much, but the I read these blogs and I feel lost myself.
The emotional thing is unbelievable, it is a true srtain. I had accupuncture today before the transfer, it was with laser not the needles, they say it clears your blocked chakras and helps. But then gain my dry celaner told me not to eat chicken or eggs until I give birth :)
Wishing u Well and as Stressfee as possible
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Hi TDJ,
Why not chicken or eggs? I live on that! I've been on bc pills and Lupron. I go back in 2 days for blood and sono to begin FSH shots. It looks like you just joined the site. Am I right? I joined a couple of days ago. I'm trying to figure it all out and remember where I've been. Good luck with everything. It's great that you can rest and work from home. How long is bed-rest recommended after transfer? I will keep asking you questions!
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Hey Chriss,

yes I just joined. My cleaners didnt give me a reason just said in her culture they dont eat eggs nor chicken, just said its very very bad. But I as well eat both, so I doubt i will stop. They want me on bed rest until the 18th. I believe its because I had more than a few miscarriages early. They tell most people, NO aerobics, no sex, no body temperature changes ie: pool, laying in sun etc. until your first prego test which is normally 11days after transfer.
Im so excited for you , altho its stressful it does become exciting that you have a team of people trying to help and each step of the way that is successful gives hope.
Have u done any IUI's? How long have u been trying
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I'm sorry to hear about your miscarriages. Did they check you for any clotting issues? I had one miscarriage after my 4th IUI. It was at 8 weeks. Because I am forty, I pushed them to do the testing that they usually only do after repeat miscarriages. They found out that I have a clotting disorder that can be treated with medication when I get pregnant again. After the miscarriage, we did two more IUI's without success. My husband has low sperm count and I am getting old so we decided to go for the gusto and do IVF. It's my first time. I am pretty scared that I am too old. It's very upsetting. I am trying to stay positive. I know that it works for many people my age. Everyone around me is pregnant! They make it look so easy. How long have you been trying? What have you done? Fill me in. Also, about the beach, I go all of the time. I am a teacher and have summers off. I never asked about the beach. Is it ok to go before the transfer? Does it have any effect on the FSH shots or anything? I am going to ask when I go in tomorrow. Just wondering if you know anything. Fill me in about yourself. I am so curious. It's so nice to have people to relate to. None of my family or friends really know what I am going through. My husband is supportive, but he can turn it off sometimes. I seem to always be thinking about it. Do you have any other tips for success? Write back! Wishing you the best! Chriss
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Chriss,

Its been so good to have you to talk to. We seem to be just a couple weeks apart. I had 3 scheduled IUI's and then my first attempt for IVF was converted to IUI. NO success with IUI's , well I shouldnt say that because I had a what they call chemical miss. I was prego for about 2 weeks. My first miss was before we got married and I had a miscarriage at 8 weeks also. What a horrible feeling that is.
Yes I have " thrombophelia" a blood clotting disorder, they put me on a baby aspirin a day and said when I get prego then I will have ot take blood thinners. Ask your doc if u should or can take a baby aspriin a day. Are u going to a fertility center or to a private doctor???When I first went they said they dint think I would need IVF, that I wasnt a candidate for it, that I just needed alittle push and baby aspirin but as always I proved them wrong. Not sure if I told u but I was stimulated better with just the follisitim for IUI then all the IVF meds. 1st try that was converted I did NOT do a LUPRON type cycle. This time I did. I only had 3 mature follies, and basically had to stay firm and insist that I wanted to go thru with the IVF. I also told them that I would not do IUI's anylonger.
They instructed to be on a moderate bedrest for this 2ww, since I seem to always over extend myself. I can work from home beacuse I own my own business and I have a small staff that covers in the main office.
ONLY AFTER transfer did they say no body temperature change. I have an amazing backyeard and pool, that I always take advantage of and now if we didnt go to mexcico during my 2weekd on the pill, I would be PALE PALE.
We dont have any sperm issues, thank God becuase my husband would not be able to handle it emotionally.

as for age... I am 39 turning 40 end of September, I never thought this would be MY PROBLEM... I keep joking with my male freinds telling them if i would hahve known, I ould ahve had a baby with one of them 10 years ago ;)

and all the other babies:
I have sent 3 different sets of baby gifts to frineds in the past 6 weeks.
soo crazy

I go to the doc tomorrow also, getting my first after transfer blood test.

Good luck to you tomorrow, keep me posted
I noticed that you didnt put you email address in your profile nor did I

I am on my blackberry so much more than this....

Good Luck again tomorrow, DONT BE SCARED u have to try.. I wll tell u the story of a freind of mine who went thru this for longer that I would and her stories. But my husband just came home and I want to ehar about his day. AND OH YEAH... No one does fully understand. I have such an amazing support system in my mom and sisters and but no one fully gets it and my husband he too can turn it off
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Chriss,

Its been so good to have you to talk to. We seem to be just a couple weeks apart. I had 3 scheduled IUI's and then my first attempt for IVF was converted to IUI. NO success with IUI's , well I shouldnt say that because I had a what they call chemical miss. I was prego for about 2 weeks. My first miss was before we got married and I had a miscarriage at 8 weeks also. What a horrible feeling that is.
Yes I have " thrombophelia" a blood clotting disorder, they put me on a baby aspirin a day and said when I get prego then I will have ot take blood thinners. Ask your doc if u should or can take a baby aspriin a day. Are u going to a fertility center or to a private doctor???When I first went they said they dint think I would need IVF, that I wasnt a candidate for it, that I just needed alittle push and baby aspirin but as always I proved them wrong. Not sure if I told u but I was stimulated better with just the follisitim for IUI then all the IVF meds. 1st try that was converted I did NOT do a LUPRON type cycle. This time I did. I only had 3 mature follies, and basically had to stay firm and insist that I wanted to go thru with the IVF. I also told them that I would not do IUI's anylonger.
They instructed to be on a moderate bedrest for this 2ww, since I seem to always over extend myself. I can work from home beacuse I own my own business and I have a small staff that covers in the main office.
ONLY AFTER transfer did they say no body temperature change. I have an amazing backyeard and pool, that I always take advantage of and now if we didnt go to mexcico during my 2weekd on the pill, I would be PALE PALE.
We dont have any sperm issues, thank God becuase my husband would not be able to handle it emotionally.

as for age... I am 39 turning 40 end of September, I never thought this would be MY PROBLEM... I keep joking with my male freinds telling them if i would hahve known, I ould ahve had a baby with one of them 10 years ago ;)

and all the other babies:
I have sent 3 different sets of baby gifts to frineds in the past 6 weeks.
soo crazy

I go to the doc tomorrow also, getting my first after transfer blood test.

Good luck to you tomorrow, keep me posted
I noticed that you didnt put you email address in your profile nor did I

I am on my blackberry so much more than this....

Good Luck again tomorrow, DONT BE SCARED u have to try.. I wll tell u the story of a freind of mine who went thru this for longer that I would and her stories. But my husband just came home and I want to ehar about his day. AND OH YEAH... No one does fully understand. I have such an amazing support system in my mom and sisters and but no one fully gets it and my husband he too can turn it off
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hi TDJ,
Hope you are doing well today. It's so great that you have your own business and can work at home.

We are very similar! I was told to start with IUI's also and one was a chemical pregnancy too. We both had the 8 week miscarriages, UGH, that was so horrible. I do take baby aspirin now. And when I am pregnant, I will take the blood thinning shots as well. I never would have thought this would be me. Let's see, what else? We are close in age. I must say, the age thing does worry me. Oh, and I overextend myself too. I am very active and really have to make myself slow down! Iam lucky that I have the summer off, I am a teacher. I've been going to the beach, reading books and now I started renting DVD's to make myself sit down once in a while.

I never did any injectibels with the IUI's. I did two natural cycles and four on clomid (oral pill). Sometimes my husband and I wonder if we kept doing the IUI's maybe it would have worked. We decided to go to IVF because of my age and he has low sperm count. Because I never did injectibles before, I don't know how I will respond. They have me on a pretty high dose. I have to inject myself 2x a day with Bravelle and Menopur. I have no idea how I will react. My doctor wants to put in 4 embryos if I have that many. I am going to a fertility clinic in New York. There are three main doctors that I deal with. So far I really like it there. The nurses are great. It's a very busy place!

We started the shots last night. They are alittle tougher than the Lupron shots. Lots of mixing of powders. They sting a little more and take a little longer to inject.

I have good suppot too. I speak to my sister every day. By the way... she is pregnant with her second child right as we speak. And... she is my younger sister!!! UGH!!! But she is awesome and really cares. My husband is great too, but like you said, he can escape it a bit and turn it off. It's really nice to be able to talk with you. I know that you truly understand this crazy path.

Good luck tomorrow with the bloodwork. I'll be thinking of you. Let me know how it turns out. And good for you for pushing the IVF. Sometimes we have to be our own advocates.

Keep resting. chriss
P.S. Thanks for being there.
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Hey Chriss,

Well my estrogen level was great but my progesterone was low a 4, which they say this is why they do the test on this day so they can increase it so there is enough to keep the uterus strong. I am feeling alil down tho. They increaded the dose and prescribed suppositories 4x a day. My ass just welted up so I am flipping out. One side is black and blue and one side is swelled up hard. maybe this is why my body is not absorbing it all. I am going to call them later and see what can be done.

Now for u... The menopour is a task but it gets easier, you wont have ot think as much in another day or two. i am going to stay on complete bed rest so i know i have done all i can this month.

I am going to a fertility center in central NJ, we moved here about a year before we got married. I thought of going to the city but the thought of having to be there so often so early wasnt appealing to me. The center I go to is rated as one of the best in the North East, but sometimes I feel as if they are not as aggressive as i would like.

well i sent my husband to the jets game tonite to get him out of my hair and now I want him to be home to comiserate with me.

When is your next appointment?

Good luck with the menapur tonite :)

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Hey T,

O.K. so the progesterone is low, at least you know that and they can help you. Hopefully the suppositories will help. SOme people never even use the injections. Have you used the progesterone injections before? Did you ever have that type of reaction? How long were you on the progesterone shots before you welted up? I've heard of it causing lumps and bumps. DId you call and ask them what else you can do?

The menopur and Bravelle mixing is getting easier. But they sting. It's not as easy as the Lupron, but I'm getting the hang of it. I hated the Lupron when I first started it and now that itsi-bitsi needle feels like an old friend. I wonder how I will react to these drugs??? I go in on Monday, that will be after about 3 and 1/2 days on the stims. Will we know anything that soon? Then I go back on Wednesday, then FRi, Sat & Sun. I guess if all goes well, the retrieval will be shortly after that.

My doctors are in Stonybrook, Long Island. They have two offices. The one in Stonybrook does all of my bloodwork and sonos and IUI's. The other office is in Mineola, LI. That's where they do the IVF's. DO you think the doctors in Manhattan are any better? I feel good about the place I am at. I think they they are as aggressive as I want to be. They are going to do ICSI because of low sperm count and assisted hatching to help with implantation. I take my stims in the am and the pm. It seems aggressive. But what do I know?

Where did you live before central NJ? I live in Southampton. We've been there for about 12 years now. I grew up on Long Island and lived in San Fransico after college for about 6 years. My husband and I got married out in California. Then we moved back East to be closer to family.

At first every time I complained to my husband about things, he would try to fix it or tell me that I have to change my thinking, etc. I told him that it's not easy for me because it's my body and I'm living it every minute. I asked him not to try to fix it for me, just to listen and encourage me instead. Just say "That must be tough or I'm sorry you feel that way", etc. Well, he caught on and now it's much easier to talk with him about it. I think he just wanted to help. But I don't need to be told how to feel. I need compassion and understanding. Then he reminded me that it's not so eay for him either and how it is affecting him. I wasn't thinking about him so much. I wish he had a place to vent, but it doesn't seem to be his style.

Well, it's Saturday, I'm going to go to the beach later and try to meditate to the sounds of the waves, sounds corny, but I do feel better after some time at the beach. Good luck stying sane while you are on bed rest. Rent movies. I've been doing that too to just zone out a bit.

Just wondering, how many times do you think you would do IVF if you had to? Right now I feel like I will keep trying for as long as I could.

When do they check your progesterone again? Push for sonner rather than later if you can. I'll be thinking of you. Hang in there. Have a good day-chriss
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Hey Chriss,

I am so uncomfortable. I am so not trying to scare you, my body has just been crazy. I go tomorrow to have the nurse and dr look at my site area. I read up about a pseudo progesterone called ENDOMETRIN, im hoping they switch me to that. just to explain what i went through, i had a welt the size of a hockey puck, width and depth, itchy lips, right eye swollen
I cant take benadryl so they gave me allegra and today called to tell me to try cortizone cream on area. I wonder how all these women get thru this and am I failing, am i being a baby?? all that....

I am staying positive tho. I told myself I would do at least 2 ivf's with my own eggs and 1 or 2 with donor, maybe 3 with my own. but i know i cant go through this every other or every month.

As for your doctor appointment, Monday they really wont be able to tell u anything but starting wednesday they will. I am so excited for you and pray you have at least 6 18mm's in the next week or so.

i grew up in westchester and spent summers when young in west hampton then as i got older south and bridge. I starting traveling alot before i got engaged for a client, so i wasnt around to enjoy haveing a home out east.

i would be at the beach also if i was in south hampton :) my sister and 2 nieces and my best friend and her family live in Nassau County.

as for your husband, it is so hard for them, yet most of the time, i have to be realistic and just say its me going through this and yes they wish they can help and get frustrated when they just dont get it, so he needs to get over himself. this has made me realize that altho my husband is great, he is a terrible communicator and as they say ignorance is bliss, well regarding fertility center protocol my husband is happy being blissful :)

I cant wait for you to experience the transfer it is a wonderful experience and oh yeah dont let me forget the retrieval anesthesia, the best 20minutes of sleep you'll ever feel.

I am going to try and sleep once i take my final dose of meds. An doh yeah my shot went ok tonite, but i have nowhere to insert it tomorrow :(

my blackberry address is tdj@tmo.blackberry.net, if u ever want to have instant communication

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