Pheonixes Rising

[gailp]

Kate I am so so sorry, I can't find the right words to express how sorry I am. I pray that the next scan shows a heartbeat. My thoughts are with you and DH
xxx

[nicolamark]

Kate, hugs to you.... you know we are always here for ya... ring me if you wanna chat honey, i have just read ur post and other thread, i have tears in my eyes... i am truely so sorry that life has shat on you, but try to stay strong as if the embie is hiding you'll need to be strong for it....
I have done nothing but think about you since you txt me, hugs to you kate and to dh also, how is he? is he being strong?
Best of luck for nxt thurs.... xxx

[Lis]

Kate I am so so sorry to hear your news. I cannot put into words how sorry I am to hear this. I know no words can take away the pain. As Jen said there is still a 10% chance .... and being in limbo is the worst thing. I know its going to be a long week for you. We are here if you need us. Thinking of you and dh at this difficult time xxx

[Lis]

Hi again sorry I just didn't feel in the mood to post with personals after reading Kate's sad news this morning

Jen - glad you had a great time at the wedding with friends. Lock in sounds great. Have to admit I'm starting to crave a wee drink myself now . . have been contenting myself with chocolate every night instead, tee hee! E coli - have to say I didn't know that one existed in our uterus's! You learn something new every day. It's so nice to hear you so upbeat ... and for good reason too! And you are so right not to stress over this - if docs at IM ain't stressin then you've no need to!! So what is next step - is it BC pills? Sorry for asking but my knowledge of ivf is patchy as you know as I a an iui gal. Its all good hun - you'll have that BFP before you know it!

Nicki - how is it going doll? You are already 25% through your 2 ww! How are you feeling? I hope you are keeping busy and trying not to think about it too much. What are you up to this weekend?

Julie - A lazy boy eh? Bet he's lying in there with his hand beside his head and havibg the last laugh! Have you htried prodding your tummy?? Terrible I know but I used to rub, prod, do whatever to gt a response The sonographer at our 3d scan told me that if you ly in the bath and humm that is a good way to get the kicking as the humming is like a vibration!

Lucy - not long now til the holiday. All set? Bet you're on the count down now. I used to love that feeling finishing up on a Friday before a holiday and having that first glass of chilled vino ..... aaah, I'm dreaming now. BAck to the tea and galaxy .. Lol!

Gail - what's the latest up date on our little swimming champ? HAve you and dh any bank holiday plans??

I've had a really good but busy few days. My friend came up on Wednesday with her gorgeous boys - aged 4 and a half and 16 months. They are so well behaved but I was knackered - constant rounds of breakfast, lunch then dinners! We took them to Deep Sea World and the older one loved it. He was running around from tank to tank looking at everything and going hyper! Then the little one strted running everywhere and you needed eyes in the back of your head to keep a watch on both of them! We were heading out to watch the seals being fed when the older one announced he didn't want to go because he was scared of the seals - we thought this was odd as he wasn't scared of going to see the sharks. It turns out that he thought he had to feed the seals himself!! Lol

Today I went out with my work for afternoon tea. It was nice but I'm a bit miffed Please girls tell me if I am being silly. My work asked me if I'd like to go out for traditional afternoon tea as a leaving do as I'm taking 11/12 months off hopefully. When I got there, I got given a card from one of the girls. It was from another girl I work closely with who had written me this card to say sorry she couldn't come as she's double booked herself. And when I asked about another colleague who I spoke to on Wednesday and who said she was coming, I was told she had "forgotten" she had friends up from England and also that she had to drive her parents to a wedding Is is just me or is that a bit rubbish .. and an excuse?? One of the girls could easily have text me. Then I ended up paying for my share, which, don't get me wrong, I did half expect but since they had asked me out I thought they might have chipped in to cover my share - it would gave only cost them an extra £2.50 each! I just know in that position I would have done that. Oh well, maybe I'm being over sensitive? I not overly close to anyone in the dept but have worked with all of them for a long time. I feel I always give to things when people are leaving and make an effort to go to things or at least speak direclty to the persopn if I can't go. Just feel its a bit of a poor show SORRY FOR THE RANT!

Well I'd better got off as dh coming home from work any minute with M & S dinner hopefully!

Love to all and esp once again to Kate - you are in my thoughts. Love to you and dh xxx

[Lis]

Hi again sorry I just didn't feel in the mood to post with personals after reading Kate's sad news this morning

Jen - glad you had a great time at the wedding with friends. Lock in sounds great. Have to admit I'm starting to crave a wee drink myself now . . have been contenting myself with chocolate every night instead, tee hee! E coli - have to say I didn't know that one existed in our uterus's! You learn something new every day. It's so nice to hear you so upbeat ... and for good reason too! And you are so right not to stress over this - if docs at IM ain't stressin then you've no need to!! So what is next step - is it BC pills? Sorry for asking but my knowledge of ivf is patchy as you know as I a an iui gal. Its all good hun - you'll have that BFP before you know it!

Nicki - how is it going doll? You are already 25% through your 2 ww! How are you feeling? I hope you are keeping busy and trying not to think about it too much. What are you up to this weekend?

Julie - A lazy boy eh? Bet he's lying in there with his hand beside his head and havibg the last laugh! Have you htried prodding your tummy?? Terrible I know but I used to rub, prod, do whatever to gt a response The sonographer at our 3d scan told me that if you ly in the bath and humm that is a good way to get the kicking as the humming is like a vibration!

Lucy - not long now til the holiday. All set? Bet you're on the count down now. I used to love that feeling finishing up on a Friday before a holiday and having that first glass of chilled vino ..... aaah, I'm dreaming now. BAck to the tea and galaxy .. Lol!

Gail - what's the latest up date on our little swimming champ? HAve you and dh any bank holiday plans??

I've had a really good but busy few days. My friend came up on Wednesday with her gorgeous boys - aged 4 and a half and 16 months. They are so well behaved but I was knackered - constant rounds of breakfast, lunch then dinners! We took them to Deep Sea World and the older one loved it. He was running around from tank to tank looking at everything and going hyper! Then the little one strted running everywhere and you needed eyes in the back of your head to keep a watch on both of them! We were heading out to watch the seals being fed when the older one announced he didn't want to go because he was scared of the seals - we thought this was odd as he wasn't scared of going to see the sharks. It turns out that he thought he had to feed the seals himself!! Lol

Today I went out with my work for afternoon tea. It was nice but I'm a bit miffed Please girls tell me if I am being silly. My work asked me if I'd like to go out for traditional afternoon tea as a leaving do as I'm taking 11/12 months off hopefully. When I got there, I got given a card from one of the girls. It was from another girl I work closely with who had written me this card to say sorry she couldn't come as she's double booked herself. And when I asked about another colleague who I spoke to on Wednesday and who said she was coming, I was told she had "forgotten" she had friends up from England and also that she had to drive her parents to a wedding Is is just me or is that a bit rubbish .. and an excuse?? One of the girls could easily have text me. Then I ended up paying for my share, which, don't get me wrong, I did half expect but since they had asked me out I thought they might have chipped in to cover my share - it would gave only cost them an extra £2.50 each! I just know in that position I would have done that. Oh well, maybe I'm being over sensitive? I not overly close to anyone in the dept but have worked with all of them for a long time. I feel I always give to things when people are leaving and make an effort to go to things or at least speak direclty to the persopn if I can't go. Just feel its a bit of a poor show SORRY FOR THE RANT!

Well I'd better got off as dh coming home from work any minute with M & S dinner hopefully!

Love to all and esp once again to Kate - you are in my thoughts. Love to you and dh xxx

[nicolamark]

Wahooo!!! Im about 50% thro 2ww now...... Feeling good! Feel nothing as far as tummy area goes, but in myslef, im full of hope..... so thats good huh??

Spent y'day with dh's sister and her hubby, went for a meal, sat in the beer garden, even had a pint, but like you said Lisa one doesnt hurt and heck ive gotta live my life and act normal, if i wasnt ttc and had gotten preg accidently i'd dstill be drinking as i wouldnt even be aware.... parhaps thats the right attidude to have do u think?
Saturday we went to the coast, sat in the sun, had a meal out, just the two of us it was lovely!!!
today, we are going shopping, just to tesco....Boring!! but needs to be done!
Ive been drinking pineapple every day, hoping thats gonna help, and i love pineapple any way!!
Then this afternoon, just at home chilling, so thats good, i hope the sun stays.... it's supposed to... but you never know whith our lovely uk weather......

Lisa, how are you honey? still enjoying being lady of leisure? Getting nervous about giving birth?? You'll b fine, and soon youe babe will be here!!

Jen, how r u? did u have good w/e in moto home? Where the parents ok?
Hows you MS??

Kate, honey, have been txting but just thought i'd add here, thinking of you and praying that thurs brings better news, i read that someone said the fetus may be younger, parhaps its just too early to detect HB. hugs to you... xxx

Gail and MLG are you and girls ok?

Lucy, not long til your hols, excited? Have fun and make sure you're chilled ready for next try xx

Julie, hows your little lad... sorry i call it a lad, but i really have a inkling you're with boy! How are you sisters now? Any more said??

Love to everyone, and sorry if i missed anyone!
Of to Tesco now....oh joy!!! xxx

[nicolamark]

PREGNANT PHEONIXES [

Lisa – 35wks . had 4D scan and it's a GIRL!!!
Julie - 20wks
Kate - 7wks



NICKI TEST DATE : 5th SEPT... PMA for a BFP!!!!



PHEONIXES WAITING FOR TREATMENT


Nicki - 2ww now
Jen – Egg Donor in SPAIN - starts meds August/October ET
Lucy - fresh ivf Oct/Nov
Souris- has left the boards but having an adoption review in Nov.


PHEONIXES GIVEN BIRTH

MLG - c/s baby girl - Margarida - Born 6th Dec 06
GAIL - c/s baby girl - Katie Hope - Born 29th March 07


SEPTEMBER

3rd- Lucy hols in Turkey
5th - NICKI...testing for BFP xx
5th - JULIE....22wk scan
10th- broc 1 year old
11th- Lucy ivf consultant review
22nd - Julie hols in sunny Wales
22nd - NICKI- Hols in sunny scotland
25th - Lisa'a dh's birthday!
?? - Jen- expected start eostrogen patches 2nd stage in tmt ????x x




OCTOBER

2nd-- Lisa's baby girl DUE!!!!
2nd -- Nicki's birthday
20th - - Lisa's birthday
???-jen's ET (16th at a guess)
31st – HALLOWEEN!!!

NOVEMBER



DECEMBER
6 - Baby MARGARIDA (MLG's daughter) is 1 YEAR OLD today
8 - NICKI-weekend in Newcastle
14 - JULIE - Finishes work!!!!!
24 - Xmas Eve
25 - Santa Claus has been - Its Christmas!!
26 – Boxing day

JANUARY

Happy new year!!

10 - Julies baby due....Girl or Boy we will know NOW!!!! so exciting!!
FEBRUARY

MARCH

14th JULIE n JUSTIN - 12th Wedd Anniv.
24th MARK 'n' NICKI - 7th Wedding Anniv.

APRIL
Kate's Baby Due

[Kate21]

Hi Girls,

Just a quickie, but to let you know I am feeling a bit better about things. Have pretty much accepted that Thursday will be a formality and just confirm what we already know. I've done a bit of research on the internet and from what I saw on the scan (an empty sac) it sounds like I may have had a blighted ovum. Basically the embryo implants but for (normally) chromosomal reasons it fails to continue to grow. Early pregnany symptoms occur which was what I had but then start to disappear after about 6wks.

Looking back on it my symptoms did start to go but I tried to put it to the back of my mind and tell myself it was just my imagination. When we go back Thursday I think I will have lots of questions (lets hope its a different consultant to the miserable one we had last week!!), the main one being what are the chances of getting pregnant again. I know we both said it was our last try but having had the carrot dangled (so to speak) we now are wondering whether to try again seeing as we were so close this time. Really am unsure, what do you guys think? I know ultimately its up to us but advice would be welcome.

Thanks for all your kind words, it really helped. Nickie - keep the pma on the 2ww, have got everything crossed for you. Hope everyone else is ok, will do personals a little later.

Kate

[Lis]

Hi everyone, Happy Bank Holiday

Kate good to hear from you. You are sounding well I'm glad to hear. I can hear what you are saying, you've got this close (and that's only if Thursday gives you bad news) so I'm not surprised you are thinking about trying again. If it was me, personally, I think I would have to try again otherwise I would always have that feeling of "what if". When dh got his awful spem analysis results and we were told there was only up to 30% chance of finding sperm with sperm retrieval - and that really was being optimistic - we knew we had to go ahead with sperm retrieval so that we could close that door on that option once and for all. However for you and dh, I think it looks so much brighter - you've fallen preg this time and you've always had no reason for tmt not to work (altho I know that prob doesn't give you any comfort being in the position you are in right now). So if it was me I would probably go for it. A friend of mine who had 5 kids (!) had a blighted ovum on her first pregnancy and I have heard of lots of women in similar situations who go on to have completely normal, healthy pregnancies. Will be thibking of you on Thursday. Hugs xxx

Nicki - enjoy Tesco's. Think I have had enough of that place after visiting 14 of their stores last week with dh! I think your attitude is perfect - a beer or two isn't going to do you or embie any harm as long as your not bingeing. Everythig in moderation. Just keep going as your going and the next week will fly in. Feeling good about this one for you hun xxx

Jen - looking forward as always to hearing about your weekend. Hope it was a good one. How are antibiotics going? Did you enjoy some nice non alcoholic drinks (shame ) but hey I'm sure you'll still be able to fit a few in before BFP .. BFP ... BFP.. !! PMA.. PMA.. PMA !!!!! (my mantra to you Jen) xxx

Kate, Lucy, Julie hope you are enjoying bank holiday sun

Yesterday dh and I went to see the Bourne Ultimatum at the cinema - its fab especially if you are a fan of the first 2 .. and it helps that Matt Damon is gorgeous

Dh is off all this week but painting today... yet again.... this time its the hall. He has gone on and on about freshening it up before the baby arrives. Its the last room to do. Since I've been preg he has painted our bedroom, the spare room, the nursery and done up the bathroom - every room upstairs in the house!. This is also our last week off together before baby comes but he has promised me he will not paint every day so we can spend time together. He is such a perfectionist tho!!

Nicki - yes starting to get a bit nervous about the birth now. Had more leaky (.) (.) too Haven't told dh tho!! Hoping for an active birth and would love it if I coulf get past on gas and air & TENS machine but we will see.

Right off to shower (still in PJ's) then round to my friend's for coffee. She has an 18 month old and her friend who's also coming over has a 3 yr old so more running around no doubt!

Love to all xxx

[nicolamark]

just a quicky......

Kate, i would try again if i was in your boat, like you say the carrot has been dangled, and you know you can get preg, so the chances will be high!!!!!
Have you and dh thought about iui too, might be an easier option to gradually ease ya in.... and like me and lisa, nothing wrong with ya so chances are even better.....
But hey yeah, ttry again, i say... talk about with dh and see what you come with, i'll be here to hold ya hand through it......
It's early days, so make sure your recovered first, mentally and physically......
Take care...
Love 'n' hugs nicki xx

hi to lisa...... Why havent you told dh about leaky (.) (.)'s
Hope you had lovely day, take care xx

[jen babes]

Hi pheonixes

Kate good to hear from you and to hear that you seem to have head around what has happened. I know it doesn't stop the sadness and grief but at least you can deal with things better and look at next steps. I don't know if you knoe BIGJ taylorjooles and she has just had an 8wk FET disgnosed as blighted ovum too. She'son over 40's thread and DE thread if you want to PM her i am sure she would talk to you. As nicki said i would deffo go again. Think it through we are here cheering you on though... xxx much love to ya

nicki good to hear your 2ww is going well....you sound on top of the world x xx long may it last x x counting down the days to the 5th x x x goota be this one for ya hun x xx 1 drink or 2 will be fine hun just don't drink a bottle x xx

lisa- whats this about leaky boobs... why you not telling DH???? Mine would love to know...i know he's dreading the day when i say "YOU CAN"T touch them they're for the BABY!!!!" Am dying t see Matt in the bourne ultimatum...mnnnnn!!!! always fab films these. It's DH's irthday this week so hope to go on friday!!!!!! glad you are busy and enjoying your time off

Julie- How are you hun???hope you have had a good weekend? your last post is too far back to read so don't know what you and lazy baby in situ ( lol) have been up to x x love x x x

gail what have you been u to ??? you havent posted for ages hun and we miss hearing abut you and katie x x

Lucy- not long until hols hun x x bet you are excited. How did appointment go? know it wasn't your 'real' important one but still a consultant one never the less. Hope all okay and you had a good weekend!

we enhjoyed meeting up with the folks in a site at Inverhavon ( near Laggan) the weather hass been so good and wee had BBQ's long walks with the dgs and good chats. I slept a lot as the antibiotics are really strong and kncking the stuffing out of me. But we had such a chilling holiday that i feel better. MS is doing better ( just tired) and I have had AF arriving with avengance . So tired by heavy flow too! Just going to chill out as mcuh as i can inbetween working clients for the rest of the week. We have good friends coming up for DH's Birthday on Thursday that are staying until sunday. But they are easy to look after and enjoy having them to stay as they are no trouble. If i am tired they also don't take offence if i go to bed early. We are due to go out for a meal thurs and cinema friday. and probably just drink, talk and eat all the rest of the time I managed to stay off the booze as the anibiotics are so strong that i would feel sick if i drank. On a good note ...I HAVE STARTED TMT...as AF came Friday i started BC pills and will take them until IM say so. (usually until the donor is due her AF and starts stimming then i will go onto eostrogen (E2) patches )

catch ya all later and much love

jen
xxxx

[jen babes]

Nicki i forgot to say can you post on the do's and don'ts of 2ww all the stuff you know abouot pineapple...i have never heard of this helping it would be good for others to hear too...thanks
jen
xxxx

[nicolamark]

Lovely to hear from ya jen, sounds like the w/e away was just what you needed, totally chilled now..... and yahooo tmt has begun, i know its only BCP's but thats a start, and i know how much that means.... lets hope ur donors AF soon arrives... do u know when she is expected to have AF??

and yes, i know Big J, she was my buddy in a group like years a go, yes, your right she has had blighted ovum recently i was thinking about saying that also kate......

Jen, no probs will post about pineapple..... xx

xx

[jen babes]

Nicki ta hun for the pineapple juice post...
never knew that...any other pointers????
Am bored with BB just now...Dh has fallen asleep on the couch so thought i'd pop in and say hi to everyone.
I don't know anything about the donor at this stage. they set up 2 donors and will only use the one in the end that i am in line with. I won't know about her until ET just the way it works. and am fine with that. So won't know when she has AF or is stimming. Just know when i start E2 (eostrogen) patches it will mean she's on stims so about 14 days until ET. Fingers crossed that all goes well for her. Wonderful that someone is doing that for me/us.

I know that you know BIg J too as you have been around since the start. Do you ever wonder about the ones that left the site. I think often of Penny ( eskavon) little P Smita debra P and Randa. I know becky (org1) still logs on for support for you!!!! In each of my 3 cycles you have been a BIG part of hun, and not just for me your support goes back a long way for many on here!!!! Hoping and praying this will be the mega 1 for you Nicki. You F'in deserve it !

love jen
xxxxx

[Lis]

Morning

Jen - wey hey! You've started tmt - you're on your way altho just sounds really complicated re timing with donor but hey that's for IM to worry about. Your weekend sounded bliss. Dh and I love going for long walks in country when we can. My dad and step mum have a caravan and we've been away with them before up North and loved it. The simple life ... and nothing beats that big glass of wine after a long walk .. or an orange juice when the drink is out of bounds. Sorry to hear the antibiotics are takin it out of you but good to hear you are copin well with the MS as always hun

Nicki - how's our 2 WW'er?? Hope you are feeling good still - is it Wed 5th your testing? I am praying and hoping and sending good vibes each day to you honey xxx

Kate - how are you today? Hope you are keeping your mind occupied. Again I think you should go for it if you are thinking that way about tmt and sounds lie a good idea to talk to the person Jen & Nicki know.

Lucy, Gail & Katie, Julie - looking forward to hearing from you all soon and catching up with you. Lucy if we don't hear from you beforehand, have a fantastic holiday. Hope the sun shines everyday and you totally chill out.

As for leaky (.)(.) girls, Dh will know soon enough about all my bodily functions when I go into labour so for now, its on a strictly need to know basis and there will be plenty of opportunity for him to sample all the delights of leaky (.)(.)'s and the rest (!) afterwards so that's why I've kept hush for now.

Off to Boots today - they're doing 20% off all baby stuff and triple points so thought I'd make the most of that and get a few of the bigger things that we still need. Still waiting on the nursery furniture and dh is still painting away - doing up the hall this time. Feel like we haven't had much time together of late as he's been so busy decorating but he says he really wants to do it and make our home nice as possible before baby arrives. I think he feels like its his way of contributing, with us using donor etc. It was just something he said made me think he feels its his duty cos I think part of him is still sad re having to use a donor Sorry don't know if that made sense. I got all upset when we were having the conversation - think my hormones are going a bit all over the place. Anyway still in PJ's yet again! so off to get showered.

Love to all xxx