I finished up my 4th cycle, which didn't work. It was very stressful because I was at a different clinic that did things a little differently--i.e. didn't give me a target date, so it was hard to let my dh an approximate date for him to try to work around from work. Then after Day 9 they told me that I would be switched to an IUI, but then they switched it back to IVF cycle. Then then night before the anticipated egg transfer, they kind of forgot to call me to tell me anything. I had to track down someone just to find out that it wasn't going to happen b/c the embryos did not develop normally. I got 6 eggs retrieved, which 3 were mature and only 2 even fertilized.
We did go for a follow up yesterday. I left feeling totally discouraged about the whole thing. A lot of what was said seemed to think that the first 3 (at the other clinic) were a totally a waste of time and that perhaps I wasted a year w/ the other clinic (not what the doctor said, but what I think). Mainly this is because the other clinic always did a day 2 transfer because their view was that anytime you get the exact amount of eggs to transfer or less they feel it was better to do a day 2 transfer. This re thinks that the same thing would have happened if they waited one more day--the embryos wouldn't have developed properly. She said that most clinics won't even do a day 2 transfer anymore & that most should and would wait until at least day 3 to see how things are developing so that someone doesn't get false hope.
Basically, each time I was on the drugs for about 11-14 days. The re didn't really think that one should be on the stim for that long because she felt that it is taking so much to stimulate me. She wants to do a clomid challenge test. Apparently, the fsh number on day 10 should be below 15. Anything above 15 will be a waste of time to try anymore IVF, from what my re has said. The last time I had this done back in 2005 when I was starting this, my numbers were normal--the fsh was 7. Since then I've had 2 day three test--one in 2006 and one in 2007. I don't remember what my 2006 day 3 number was, but my 2007 day 2 number was 11--I guess it's supposed to be 10 and under, so I am borderline. I am just afraid that things may be going down hill for me. This is our last hope as we will not be doing donor eggs or adoption. My re didn't seem to suggest doing anything like acupuncture or anything to try to improve the egg quality.
I don't mean to babble on, but I was wondering if anyone had a similar experience w/ doing clomid challenge test where the numbers were kind of high and still got good result. My re seems to think that if my numbers aren't w/in normal range, then I should not even bother w/ any more cycles......
Thanks in advance for any helpful encouragement.
Need some encouragement and sucess stories.
Need some encouragement and sucess stories.
ME--42 DH 41
kbat
I believe you need to take this one step at a time.....
Its a fresh start.
You're now at a new clinic, and they do things differently. Looking around this site it seems lots of people are having different regimes etc. That's got to be a good thing, we are all different, our bodies respond differently to each other and to complicate it even further, our bodies respond differently at their own choosing. Think about all those ladies who aren't dealing with infertility. They don't get pregnant straight away, every time they try. So. Take a deep breath, you have eggs, otherwise you would not get embryos. You are my age, so as i know I'm no longer as fit as i was when i was 20, my eggs are the same as your, not as fresh. BUT it can happen. It will happen.
Its very easy for anyone of us to say "good luck" say a prayer or whatever, i think you need to keep that positive frame of mind. What I'm trying to say is this, talk to your husband. Tell him your fears. Get some R & R.
Take the clomid challenge test. Then take it from there......
If you have no eggs that's when you stop. I'm challenged in that department. But, i believe if i wait my turn, i'll have my baby. You have to believe it can happen......
Thinking about you
Jx
I believe you need to take this one step at a time.....
Its a fresh start.
You're now at a new clinic, and they do things differently. Looking around this site it seems lots of people are having different regimes etc. That's got to be a good thing, we are all different, our bodies respond differently to each other and to complicate it even further, our bodies respond differently at their own choosing. Think about all those ladies who aren't dealing with infertility. They don't get pregnant straight away, every time they try. So. Take a deep breath, you have eggs, otherwise you would not get embryos. You are my age, so as i know I'm no longer as fit as i was when i was 20, my eggs are the same as your, not as fresh. BUT it can happen. It will happen.
Its very easy for anyone of us to say "good luck" say a prayer or whatever, i think you need to keep that positive frame of mind. What I'm trying to say is this, talk to your husband. Tell him your fears. Get some R & R.
Take the clomid challenge test. Then take it from there......
If you have no eggs that's when you stop. I'm challenged in that department. But, i believe if i wait my turn, i'll have my baby. You have to believe it can happen......
Thinking about you
Jx
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thanks you guys for the support I know my husband is basically doing this b/c of me. Before we got married, he said and has always maintained that he would be happy w/ kids & he would be happy w/o kids. He's a former navy officer and basically thinks you should just deal w/ it. He even said at the doctor's office that if we can't do any more IVf and/or don't get positive results then i would have to learn to live w/ the fact that we won't have kids. It's just so stressful... It seems like you take one step forward and two steps back. I have tried to remain optimistic, but now I feel like I am going into panic mode. 
I will take the test again just to see what happens though and then go from there.
Best of luck to both of you
I know my husband is basically doing this b/c of me. Before we got married, he said and has always maintained that he would be happy w/ kids & he would be happy w/o kids. He's a former navy officer and basically thinks you should just deal w/ it. He even said at the doctor's office that if we can't do any more IVf and/or don't get positive results then i would have to learn to live w/ the fact that we won't have kids. It's just so stressful... It seems like you take one step forward and two steps back. I have tried to remain optimistic, but now I feel like I am going into panic mode. I will take the test again just to see what happens though and then go from there. Best of luck to both of you
ME--42 DH 41
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Awwww hugs to you sweet cheeks (((hugs))) I am so very sorry for your pain right now, I truly do feel for you....
Try with all you might to think good thoughts, know we all are right here for you, k?
SL
Try with all you might to think good thoughts, know we all are right here for you, k?
SL
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I completely understand your frustration and heartache! I am 38 (39 next month) and this is our first IVF w/ICSI attempt and it has been a roller coaster to say the least!! I had a similar situation with not producing a lot of eggs, I'm boarderline with my FSH also, and going into this, my RE told me that I wouldn't have a big response to the stim meds - which were a pretty high dose. I too had to deal with possible cancellation, switiching to IUI and then back to IVF, but for me IUI is not an option because my left tube is damaged and my right tube is blocked. The doctors were not at all optimistic about my cycle and they suggested I cancel. I refused and asked them if there was anything we could do to proceed. My RE said we can extend the stim meds to see if my follies grow in 2-3 days. So that is what we did....I ended up with only 6 eggs, 5 fertilized with ICSI and developed perfectly. We did a 3 day transfer of all 5 eggs. So never give up hope, the doctors can only know so much...I prayed and prayed for God to intervene and He did in a big way! I will find out on Friday that I will be pregnant, I know I will be pregnant! My husband and I have been TTC for 3 years, two surgeries and so months of charting, etc. and not one BFP in that time. God has a plan for all of us and when we finally give in to that, we find peace! Never say never because God can perform miracles....and does every day....He is the ultimate physician!!! You will be in my prayers!
Jodi
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Me 38 (39 in Oct)- R Tube Blocked - 2 surgeries to try to fix - both unsuccessful
DH 31 (32 in Oct)-low motility
DS - 18 DS - 10
TTC: 4.5 years
1st IVF w/ICSI Sept 2007 - BFN
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Me 38 (39 in Oct)- R Tube Blocked - 2 surgeries to try to fix - both unsuccessful
DH 31 (32 in Oct)-low motility
DS - 18 DS - 10
TTC: 4.5 years
1st IVF w/ICSI Sept 2007 - BFN
HEY PNJ718--
That is a very encouraging story. I am so glad things worked out for you. I am glad to hear that you had up to this point a successful IVF cycle. I also have an issue w/ my tubes. I had my left one removed due to a blockage, which we found out to be endometrois. As far as I know, my right tube is still open. You try to be so optimistic and then you go to the doctor's and it seems like they let all the air out of your sails... I don't know what this clomid test will ultimaly show, but I am hoping that I am at least remain borderline so that we can try for a couple of more shots. (at 38, I was "normal--but it seems like w/ each passing year it gets a little worse) I was anticipating stopping at 6 anyway (I've had 4), but at least you know it's on your own terms.
I wish you well for a BFP on your pregnancy test!!! I'll keep you in my thoughts for a wonderful result!!! Let us know how it works out....
That is a very encouraging story. I am so glad things worked out for you. I am glad to hear that you had up to this point a successful IVF cycle. I also have an issue w/ my tubes. I had my left one removed due to a blockage, which we found out to be endometrois. As far as I know, my right tube is still open. You try to be so optimistic and then you go to the doctor's and it seems like they let all the air out of your sails... I don't know what this clomid test will ultimaly show, but I am hoping that I am at least remain borderline so that we can try for a couple of more shots. (at 38, I was "normal--but it seems like w/ each passing year it gets a little worse) I was anticipating stopping at 6 anyway (I've had 4), but at least you know it's on your own terms.
I wish you well for a BFP on your pregnancy test!!! I'll keep you in my thoughts for a wonderful result!!! Let us know how it works out....
ME--42 DH 41
Hi Kbat,
I have no idea what the clomid challenge is, but wanted to let you know that I got pregnant at 39 with an FSH of 12. I am also a poor responder to stims and had only 2 grade b embies to transfer. They transferred both and the result was my wonderful daughter!
I am now in the midst of ivf #4 hoping for another. Keep in mind that when you first start with a new clinic, you have to get used to them and they have to get used to you. I always look at the first ivf cycle with a new clinic as a trial run. It usually doesn't work, but you learn a lot that you can apply the next time around.
Try and keep a positive mental attitude!! I've got my fingers crossed for you!!
I have no idea what the clomid challenge is, but wanted to let you know that I got pregnant at 39 with an FSH of 12. I am also a poor responder to stims and had only 2 grade b embies to transfer. They transferred both and the result was my wonderful daughter!
I am now in the midst of ivf #4 hoping for another. Keep in mind that when you first start with a new clinic, you have to get used to them and they have to get used to you. I always look at the first ivf cycle with a new clinic as a trial run. It usually doesn't work, but you learn a lot that you can apply the next time around.
Try and keep a positive mental attitude!! I've got my fingers crossed for you!!
Me: 42
DH: 44
12/2002 Ivf #1 Cancelled
2/2003 Ivf #2, 2 embies x-ferred, 1 healthy baby girl!!!
6/2007 Ivf #3 converted to IUI, BFN
9/2007 Ivf #4 5 embies x-ferred BFN
DH: 44
12/2002 Ivf #1 Cancelled
2/2003 Ivf #2, 2 embies x-ferred, 1 healthy baby girl!!!
6/2007 Ivf #3 converted to IUI, BFN
9/2007 Ivf #4 5 embies x-ferred BFN
Rotobay-
Wow, that's great!!! The reason I am looking for positive feedback from people who have actually gone through this is because as I said the doctors seem to not really be positive. All they seem to tell you is the bad stuff--how it takes a lot of stim to get me going, etc. They said that they even have a name for my situation called the "Hail Mary" where they throw everything they have up there and hope for the best.... So when the doctor says stuff like this, it's discouraging. I guess they are trying to be realistic. But I don't necessarily want them to give up me so fast....
thanks for the feedback and good luck w/ your next try...
Kara
Wow, that's great!!! The reason I am looking for positive feedback from people who have actually gone through this is because as I said the doctors seem to not really be positive. All they seem to tell you is the bad stuff--how it takes a lot of stim to get me going, etc. They said that they even have a name for my situation called the "Hail Mary" where they throw everything they have up there and hope for the best.... So when the doctor says stuff like this, it's discouraging. I guess they are trying to be realistic. But I don't necessarily want them to give up me so fast....
thanks for the feedback and good luck w/ your next try...
Kara
ME--42 DH 41