LadyB--- I'm so sorry that this one wasn't it for you. I wish I had the right words to help you through it. Just know I'm here for you and will gladly listen.
Stephanie--- This had been my first experience with Lupron and taking Follistim at the same time. All I know is that lately I've been feeling very "witchy" and crampy too. I just thought it was because of the 5 follicles I have on board and the medication.
Grace---sounds like you are on your way!!!
As for me here's the latest and greatest: I have 4/5 follicles today all 20 - 16. I'm at the end of the road for taking the Lupron and Follistim -- last dose this morning. Tonight I have to have Pregnyl and I am FREAKING out over the needle and hubby to give me the medication. As we speak for me to relax I'm have a Watermelon Twister to take the edge off. Tomorrow, Thursday I go for blood work, just to make sure all is go. Friday is retrieval day and Monday will be transfer.
I've decided this will be it. I just can't go through it anymore. So we'll see what happens and let it be.
Happy Halloween All.
Cindy
cycle buddy late Oct/Nov
Wow, what a day for everyone. A lot of ups and downs.
Lady B, I am so sorry about your cycle. Your news is devastating. Please let us know how you're doing - we're thinking of you, and we understand your pain like nobody else can.
Kbat, thank you for the good thoughts! Keep us posted on your progress too.
Stephanie - I've never taken Lupron, so I'm not sure about the side effects. I hope all is going well other than that!
Cindy, great news on your follies! I hope the pregnyl goes well tonight and I'll be thinking of you on Friday.
I head back for another u/s and E2 tomorrow and hopefully they will not tell me that I'm launching into OHSS. I'm pretty scared, as it looks like they will do the retrieval but not the transfer if I have OHSS (they would freeze everything), and I would be sick for awhile and unable to have the embryos transferred until it's over. It seems so ridiculous; on my first cycle, I only had 7 follies at the right size, and very low E2, and they acted like that was barely good enough (but I had 12 eggs and my ET was just dandy). Now I have 20 follies and tons of E2 and they are still upset with me and threatening OHSS and no ET. argh!
Grace
Lady B, I am so sorry about your cycle. Your news is devastating. Please let us know how you're doing - we're thinking of you, and we understand your pain like nobody else can.
Kbat, thank you for the good thoughts! Keep us posted on your progress too.
Stephanie - I've never taken Lupron, so I'm not sure about the side effects. I hope all is going well other than that!
Cindy, great news on your follies! I hope the pregnyl goes well tonight and I'll be thinking of you on Friday.
I head back for another u/s and E2 tomorrow and hopefully they will not tell me that I'm launching into OHSS. I'm pretty scared, as it looks like they will do the retrieval but not the transfer if I have OHSS (they would freeze everything), and I would be sick for awhile and unable to have the embryos transferred until it's over. It seems so ridiculous; on my first cycle, I only had 7 follies at the right size, and very low E2, and they acted like that was barely good enough (but I had 12 eggs and my ET was just dandy). Now I have 20 follies and tons of E2 and they are still upset with me and threatening OHSS and no ET. argh!
Grace
Me:36 DH:37
1st IVF: BFN
2nd IVF: BFP, had a m/c
3rd IVF: FET, BFP. Baby Girl born 10/13/09!!!
1st IVF: BFN
2nd IVF: BFP, had a m/c
3rd IVF: FET, BFP. Baby Girl born 10/13/09!!!
Lady B.... I am so sorry that this didn't work out for you. 
I know how disappointing it is. I've had 4 failed cycles and the first few days, I was very emotional even though I thought I was prepared for it--cried a lot. But after a couple of days passed, I was able to think a little more clearly to make a decision as what my next move was. You will probably have a follow up w/ the RE at some point. If that's the case write down all your questions...Maybe they will be able to shed some light on it.
Best of luck w/ your decisions. Whatever decision you and your dh make, it'll be the right one for you. I will say a little prayer for you.
As for me, I have gotten approved for IVF/ISCI (that icsi part was pending). I am glad that part is over w/. I am really hoping this one will work as it could be my last one. Go for u/s and bloodwork on Friday am
I know how disappointing it is. I've had 4 failed cycles and the first few days, I was very emotional even though I thought I was prepared for it--cried a lot. But after a couple of days passed, I was able to think a little more clearly to make a decision as what my next move was. You will probably have a follow up w/ the RE at some point. If that's the case write down all your questions...Maybe they will be able to shed some light on it.Best of luck w/ your decisions. Whatever decision you and your dh make, it'll be the right one for you. I will say a little prayer for you.
As for me, I have gotten approved for IVF/ISCI (that icsi part was pending). I am glad that part is over w/. I am really hoping this one will work as it could be my last one. Go for u/s and bloodwork on Friday am
ME--42 DH 41
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alittlegrace
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Hello Everyone,
It has been a while since I have posted. I stopped taking the b/c pill on Sunday, and I started micro dose lupron today. I had my base line u/s today, and I am set to start the stims on Friday.
Lady B, I am sorry about your cycle. Mine was cancelled last time due to poor stimulation. I know that it can be frustrating. Are you talking to your RE about a new protocol for next time?
Grace35, I am thinking about you and praying for you. Hopefully, you will not have OHSS, and will be able to continue.
Stephanie, I have never felt very well taking lupron, My symptoms are usually headaches, leg pain, and the occasional hot flash. This time they put me on micro dose lupron due to trying to improve my stimulation. Today was my first day on the micro dose, and I still had a headache even though I am on a smaller dose.
Cindy, I am glad things are going well. Let me know how it goes; I am a little nervous myself about the BIG Progesterone shots following retrieval, not to mention retrieval itself.
Praying for everyone,
alittlegrace
It has been a while since I have posted. I stopped taking the b/c pill on Sunday, and I started micro dose lupron today. I had my base line u/s today, and I am set to start the stims on Friday.
Lady B, I am sorry about your cycle. Mine was cancelled last time due to poor stimulation. I know that it can be frustrating. Are you talking to your RE about a new protocol for next time?
Grace35, I am thinking about you and praying for you. Hopefully, you will not have OHSS, and will be able to continue.
Stephanie, I have never felt very well taking lupron, My symptoms are usually headaches, leg pain, and the occasional hot flash. This time they put me on micro dose lupron due to trying to improve my stimulation. Today was my first day on the micro dose, and I still had a headache even though I am on a smaller dose.
Cindy, I am glad things are going well. Let me know how it goes; I am a little nervous myself about the BIG Progesterone shots following retrieval, not to mention retrieval itself.
Praying for everyone,
alittlegrace
Thank you...to all of you...for your kind words. They mean so very much to me. This has been a very rough day. I pretty much cried all the way home from the u/s this morning. I just knew that things weren't right.
Not to keep dragging out my negative news, but I have been offered two options and I would like your wise opinions about them.
Option Number 1: Do what my RE is calling a "flare" IVF. I would start BC tomorrow and go directly into another IVF cycle.
OR
Option Number 2: Wait until January/February.
Right now, I think the DH and I are thinking of waiting until Feb. For odd reasons, I was left on BC for 3 months prior to this IVF cycle (there was an unexpected surgery and other whatnots that occured last minute). Does anyone have any info/insight into whether or not this could have played into my not stimulating? I guess my issue with the "flare" IVF option is that unless we know what caused the lack of stimulation this time, we can't possible expect it to be corrected. Or am I overthinking this?
Hugs and Happy wishes to everyone! -LadyB
Not to keep dragging out my negative news, but I have been offered two options and I would like your wise opinions about them.
Option Number 1: Do what my RE is calling a "flare" IVF. I would start BC tomorrow and go directly into another IVF cycle.
OR
Option Number 2: Wait until January/February.
Right now, I think the DH and I are thinking of waiting until Feb. For odd reasons, I was left on BC for 3 months prior to this IVF cycle (there was an unexpected surgery and other whatnots that occured last minute). Does anyone have any info/insight into whether or not this could have played into my not stimulating? I guess my issue with the "flare" IVF option is that unless we know what caused the lack of stimulation this time, we can't possible expect it to be corrected. Or am I overthinking this?
Hugs and Happy wishes to everyone! -LadyB
DH=33; Me=33
DH= MESA 7/07
1st IVF Attempt 10/07 (Cancelled)
DH= MESA 7/07
1st IVF Attempt 10/07 (Cancelled)
I've been on a flare before. I was actually on birth control longer than anticipated on cycle #3--mainly because I told the clinic that I was going to be away for a couple of days, and I was told that it would not be a problem. Then when they told me what my possible egg retreival day was-- it was for the day that we were going to leave on our mini-vacation. I could take meds while I was away b/c I would have a refrigerator and I wasn't in a hotel. So I was on almost 2 packets of b/c (active pills only). I started the medications the day we left for our long week-end away. I still developed some eggs (about 3 mature ones), but I didn't get fertilization. For this cycle and for the last cycle, I did not taking b/c at all. My own personal feelings after a failed cycle was to try again right away--at least in the beginning. Now I have to wait because my insurance only approves one cycle at a time, so if it doesn't work out, I have to wait until they approve another one--if they do.
It's a tough decision to make... Maybe it would be better to try to find out why you got no stimulation--but sometimes there's really no explanation. Was it due to the medications the RE gave and they didn't work or weren't given in the correct dosage? is there some underlying issue that caused this? It seemed like my old RE's favorite explanations of why things did work out was "no one knows for certain" or "sometimes it just doesn't work out and I don't know why" or "it is what it is." It would drive me crazy, but in the end I guess sometimes they just don't know. I know for me, I went through lots of various testing--one to see if my tubes were open (my left one wasn't), then another test (done twice) to take a look at the uterus. Then 2 clomid challenge tests to see where my estrogen and FSH numbers were. I think this helps determine ovarian reserve. In the end, beside one of my tubes that was blocked, which was later removed, my biggest problem has been my low ovarian reserve, (my FSH levels are borderline at about 11-11.9. I've heard that some RE's like to see this at 10 or below, while others like to see it under 12. I believe most don't like to see above 15) which is probably why I don't respond so well to anything they give me. But then again, I am kind of "old" at 40. . W/ the holidays around the corner, maybe it would be nice to take a little bit of a rest.
However, w/ that said, at least the RE is attempting to give you a different protocal to see if this different protocol will fare better for you. Sometimes, it's just a matter of finding the right drugs, dosages, etc.
Good luck w/ your decision, and whatever decision you make will be the right one for you and your dh.
I've been doing acupuncture since my Sept. It's expensive ($50 everytime) and not covered by insurance, but I am hoping that it will help me be a better responder. I tried to do a lot of research on it, and there are studies that seem to indicate it could be helpful. As the cycle goes on, and I do u/s, b/w, etc. I will let you if there are any improvements over any of my other cycles....
Best of luck to you.
It's a tough decision to make... Maybe it would be better to try to find out why you got no stimulation--but sometimes there's really no explanation. Was it due to the medications the RE gave and they didn't work or weren't given in the correct dosage? is there some underlying issue that caused this? It seemed like my old RE's favorite explanations of why things did work out was "no one knows for certain" or "sometimes it just doesn't work out and I don't know why" or "it is what it is." It would drive me crazy, but in the end I guess sometimes they just don't know. I know for me, I went through lots of various testing--one to see if my tubes were open (my left one wasn't), then another test (done twice) to take a look at the uterus. Then 2 clomid challenge tests to see where my estrogen and FSH numbers were. I think this helps determine ovarian reserve. In the end, beside one of my tubes that was blocked, which was later removed, my biggest problem has been my low ovarian reserve, (my FSH levels are borderline at about 11-11.9. I've heard that some RE's like to see this at 10 or below, while others like to see it under 12. I believe most don't like to see above 15) which is probably why I don't respond so well to anything they give me. But then again, I am kind of "old" at 40. . W/ the holidays around the corner, maybe it would be nice to take a little bit of a rest.
However, w/ that said, at least the RE is attempting to give you a different protocal to see if this different protocol will fare better for you. Sometimes, it's just a matter of finding the right drugs, dosages, etc.
Good luck w/ your decision, and whatever decision you make will be the right one for you and your dh.
I've been doing acupuncture since my Sept. It's expensive ($50 everytime) and not covered by insurance, but I am hoping that it will help me be a better responder. I tried to do a lot of research on it, and there are studies that seem to indicate it could be helpful. As the cycle goes on, and I do u/s, b/w, etc. I will let you if there are any improvements over any of my other cycles....
Best of luck to you.
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ME--42 DH 41
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cindy71268
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LadyB: My opinion would be to wait, relax over the holidays. I tend to think we can make ourselves simply CRAZY (Lord knows I have been and do over all this) during our cycles. We are always trying to get answers no matter what. And sometimes, there simply isn't the answer we think there is. I would be open to try your doctors new protocol. It's seems simular to what I've been doing this time around. But like I said, the holidays are here, and you should try to enjoy them with your beloved, and take the edge off. Sometimes it's simply coming to the conclusion of relaxing through it all and I know from experience, it's easier said than done.
I had totally freaked out not only myself but, my DH last night over the injection and the needle size for the pregnyl, that I ended up going to the ER to have a nurse inject me. CRAZY!!!! I was being to analyitical and literal over the instructions given to me. I needed to relax, and even though I had two Watermelon Twisters, they did nothing for me. LOL
I did finally get the shot around 9:45 last night instead of 9:00. And I went in for my blood work this am. I'll know more later from the nurse of my levels. So, I need to take my own advise and just relax through the rest of it. I'm going to have hubby practice on an orange for the Progestrone shots that will be coming soon.
Have a good day girls.
Think good thoughts!!
I had totally freaked out not only myself but, my DH last night over the injection and the needle size for the pregnyl, that I ended up going to the ER to have a nurse inject me. CRAZY!!!! I was being to analyitical and literal over the instructions given to me. I needed to relax, and even though I had two Watermelon Twisters, they did nothing for me. LOL
I did finally get the shot around 9:45 last night instead of 9:00. And I went in for my blood work this am. I'll know more later from the nurse of my levels. So, I need to take my own advise and just relax through the rest of it. I'm going to have hubby practice on an orange for the Progestrone shots that will be coming soon.
Have a good day girls.
Think good thoughts!!
Thanks so much everyone. I think after talking more to the IVF nurse this morning (she was a total doll and talked as long as I needed) we've decided to wait until the beginning of next year.
I'm a very "why" kind of person and everyone pretty much feels that for my own benefit, I need to stop and have a consult with my RE. So, they got me in for tomorrow at 2:15pm. I was shocked, but they were really cool about getting me in.
What I don't want to do is keep trying if there isn't a lot of hope. I don't think I can keep doing this after 7+ years. My E2 levels (at least for this month) were beyond bad. So despite what everyone thought, I do have some fertility issues of my own. So, compound that with my DH's issues and I think we really need to sit down with the RE and get the game plan straight. I will let you lovely ladies know what we learn tomorrow.
That being said, Cindy, please let us know what you learn from your nurse. I am sending you LOTS of positive vibes.
Grace35: You, too, are in my thoughts. Good luck!
Alittlegrace: Yeah, we are talking about new strategies. I'll share them tomorrow evening! Thank you. Lots of positive thoughts!
Kbat: Thank you. I guess this won't be easy if it's a "we don't know" situation, but I'll deal. Thank you for all your keen insight and kind words. They've really helped get me calm. I think I'm ready to move forward and prepare for the next attempt.
Hugs and Good luck to all! -LadyB
I'm a very "why" kind of person and everyone pretty much feels that for my own benefit, I need to stop and have a consult with my RE. So, they got me in for tomorrow at 2:15pm. I was shocked, but they were really cool about getting me in.
What I don't want to do is keep trying if there isn't a lot of hope. I don't think I can keep doing this after 7+ years. My E2 levels (at least for this month) were beyond bad. So despite what everyone thought, I do have some fertility issues of my own. So, compound that with my DH's issues and I think we really need to sit down with the RE and get the game plan straight. I will let you lovely ladies know what we learn tomorrow.
That being said, Cindy, please let us know what you learn from your nurse. I am sending you LOTS of positive vibes.
Grace35: You, too, are in my thoughts. Good luck!
Alittlegrace: Yeah, we are talking about new strategies. I'll share them tomorrow evening! Thank you.
Lots of positive thoughts! Kbat: Thank you. I guess this won't be easy if it's a "we don't know" situation, but I'll deal. Thank you for all your keen insight and kind words. They've really helped get me calm. I think I'm ready to move forward and prepare for the next attempt.
Hugs and Good luck to all! -LadyB
DH=33; Me=33
DH= MESA 7/07
1st IVF Attempt 10/07 (Cancelled)
DH= MESA 7/07
1st IVF Attempt 10/07 (Cancelled)
Lady B - I also was on BC for 3 months straight before my first cycle (because we were ready to go and then the insurance issues hit, which delayed us 2 months). On that cycle, I was very slow to start up and I had low E2 and tiny follies. On this cycle, I was on the pill for one month and now we're trying to avoid OHSS. So I think you're making a great decision to hold off for awhile, not to mention how nice it would be to just not deal with all this for awhile and enjoy the holidays!!!
Cindy: I totally feel for you. All of these shots are nervewracking. The first time my husband gave me progesterone, his hands were shaking and I was in tears. But I can say that we both adjusted quickly. It seems unreal that we're going to do it again shortly.
Kbat: I can relate to FSH concerns. Mine is 12.5!!! COngratulations on the ICSI victory. Let us know how it goes for you tomorrow. I am having another u/s and E2 tomorrow too.
alittlegrace, welcome back! I look forward to hearing how everything goes for you!!
I had another u/s today and am feeling less upset, though the nurse assures me that I'm still a prime candidate for OHSS. My E2 is at 4400, and they are hoping it will decrease tomorrow - I feel like I'm in a bizarre opposite world. I have 7 follies over 16 and 15-20 below 16. We're going to "coast" one more day on Ganirelix and then my ET should be Sunday.
Grace
Cindy: I totally feel for you. All of these shots are nervewracking. The first time my husband gave me progesterone, his hands were shaking and I was in tears. But I can say that we both adjusted quickly. It seems unreal that we're going to do it again shortly.
Kbat: I can relate to FSH concerns. Mine is 12.5!!! COngratulations on the ICSI victory. Let us know how it goes for you tomorrow. I am having another u/s and E2 tomorrow too.
alittlegrace, welcome back! I look forward to hearing how everything goes for you!!
I had another u/s today and am feeling less upset, though the nurse assures me that I'm still a prime candidate for OHSS. My E2 is at 4400, and they are hoping it will decrease tomorrow - I feel like I'm in a bizarre opposite world. I have 7 follies over 16 and 15-20 below 16. We're going to "coast" one more day on Ganirelix and then my ET should be Sunday.
Grace
Me:36 DH:37
1st IVF: BFN
2nd IVF: BFP, had a m/c
3rd IVF: FET, BFP. Baby Girl born 10/13/09!!!
1st IVF: BFN
2nd IVF: BFP, had a m/c
3rd IVF: FET, BFP. Baby Girl born 10/13/09!!!
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stephanievt97
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Grace--- hope that tomorrow's u/s and blood work go o.k for you. I will keep my fingers crossed that it's not canceled due to OHSS. As far as the FSH levels, I've been on other forums where people w/ high fsh levels still go on to have kids, so there's still hope for us.
LadyB--I am glad that you were able to get in to see your RE. I've always had a follow-up after each failed cycle (although not as quick as you) to try to figure out a new plan and just to go over whatever w/ the RE. What I would recommend, if possible, is to write down your questions so when you get there any questions you have you don't forget to ask. Good luck w/ that.
Good luck to the rest of you who are still hanging in there....
LadyB--I am glad that you were able to get in to see your RE. I've always had a follow-up after each failed cycle (although not as quick as you) to try to figure out a new plan and just to go over whatever w/ the RE. What I would recommend, if possible, is to write down your questions so when you get there any questions you have you don't forget to ask. Good luck w/ that.
Good luck to the rest of you who are still hanging in there....
ME--42 DH 41
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cindy71268
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Everyone:
How wonderful you all are! E2 has gone up to 783 and LH went down to .5, according to my nurse they are happy with the way things are looking for ER tomorrow. I spoke to the Doc who will be doing it, and she said looks like there are 4 good ones. What will be will be. So we shall see, and Monday will be the ET.
How wonderful you all are! E2 has gone up to 783 and LH went down to .5, according to my nurse they are happy with the way things are looking for ER tomorrow. I spoke to the Doc who will be doing it, and she said looks like there are 4 good ones. What will be will be. So we shall see, and Monday will be the ET.
Cindy: Oh wow! Good luck tomorrow. I'll be thinking about you and sending you lots of positive vibes!!!!
Kbat: That is excellent advice. I've already opened my editor and am typing in questions and thoughts. Thank you so much!
Hugs and Happy Thoughts to everyone!!! -LadyB
Kbat: That is excellent advice. I've already opened my editor and am typing in questions and thoughts. Thank you so much!
Hugs and Happy Thoughts to everyone!!! -LadyB
DH=33; Me=33
DH= MESA 7/07
1st IVF Attempt 10/07 (Cancelled)
DH= MESA 7/07
1st IVF Attempt 10/07 (Cancelled)