Just starting 2WW, testing 15/11, care to join?

Mandyluckypants · Post by **Mandyluckypants** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:06 am

So... I had two embryos transferred yesterday, one was a grade 1, the other just past a grade 1 to a 2, she said she was being harsh. The other was a grade 3 so no good for freezing. I got there at 10.30 and was desperate for a pee (have to have a full bladder) it was painful to hold since EC, so it was agreed I could relieve myself, and I was given a jug of water. Half an hour of waiting and .... I had to go again! I dont think my bladder was full for procedure but it went ok. So now im in the wonderful 2ww. The clinic reckon I have a 40% rate of success and 25% that both will implant. So im a little more postitive

Anyone else happy to go insane with me?

Neeve · Post by **Neeve** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:39 am

Hi mandy I am in this crazy wait too I had 4 embryos transfered on the 31/10 so I will be testing on the 12/11. 2 of the embryos were ok but uneven cells I do not know the grade and the other 2 were not as good. The doctor said that there was still a chance but mayby less than with a transfer with perfect embryos. they were a 3,5,6 and 7 cell so they were dividing well even if somewhat uneven. This is my 4th transfer you would think that I would be used to it!!!!!

What are doing at the moment bed rest?? I am lying down since wednesday being waited on by DH. The embies should implant this weekend if they implant at all so fingers crossed. Stay positive this could be the one for us and if nothing else we can to insane together!!!!
Neeve

Mandyluckypants · Post by **Mandyluckypants** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:52 am

Hi Neeve

Im taking it easy this time, as I changed clinic for thisIVF Cycle, and they basically told me not to overdo things for the next 5 days, I cant drink alcohol, have sexual intercourse, do vigorous exercise or beome excessively tired! I think it's more for te psychological impact of not doing anything you will regret if it fails. My cycle last time I had BPF and to be honest I went back to work two days after EC. So I think there are lots of various theories.

In the early days (1990s), you had ET and then would lie with you legs higher than your head o a tilted bed. Not good for the bladder believe me! Then if you went to the tiolet before he 2 hours was up and you got a BFP, you would blame yourself for going to the toilet!

I was lucky to have even cells, but the embryologist saidthat a grade 3 can create a BFP so I wouldnt worry too much xxxxx

Mandyluckypants · Post by **Mandyluckypants** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:55 am

I meant if you got a BFN from going to the toilet sorry - really should start reading before I post

Neeve · Post by **Neeve** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:04 pm

I think when it comes to this you really should follow your own instincts for me I am just resting and but I do feel totally relaxed I am only hoping that there is a comfy nest in there!!!! Have you any kids already?

Mandyluckypants · Post by **Mandyluckypants** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:18 pm

No sadly not, been trying since 1989! It doesnt get any easier the older you get, you just adapt to those difficult situations with others!

mimi77 · Post by **mimi77** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:22 pm

hey ladies, thought i'd join. i was on a different thread with mandyluckypants, two of the ladies got their results already and i was kind of feeling lonely.

i will be testing a little ahead of you (11/7), but hopefully it will just be to start us off with a bunch of bfp's! i had 3 fresh embies xfered on day 3; 4, 6, & 7 cell all grade 3 (slight fragmentation and uneven cell division, considered fair). i have gotten bfp twice with grade 3. one is my beautiful 2 year old son and the other sadly ended in a miscarriage this past june. i'm hoping for a miracle! all babies are miracles and it is impossible to know what a natural pregnancy embie looks like at day 3...doubtful that they are all perfect!

wishing you all the best and looking forward to going through this with you.

mimi

Mandyluckypants · Post by **Mandyluckypants** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:43 pm

Hey Mimi

I recognise your name. Hi! I know what you mean thats why I started another thread, lots of ladies on the other thread been through lods together already. How you feeling about this cycle?
Loads of baby dust for you xxxxxxxxx everything crossed xxxxx

Neeve · Post by **Neeve** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:51 pm

Hi Mimi great that you joined we can all go through this together our embies seem to be the same I transferred 3,5,6,7 no fragmentation but uneven cells gives me loads of hope that it has worked twice for you I am keeping my fingers crossed for you I hope that you will have a hat trick!!!!! How are you feeling any signs?

I will give you both an update on my history

me 32 DH 42
1 # IVF 01/05 BFN
2 # IVF 05/05 BFN
3 # IVF 10/05 BFN
4 # IVF 02/07 Cancelled
5 # IVF 05/07 treatment was a fiasco no embryos obtained
6 # IVF we will wait and see!!!!!

Lots of sticky baby dust to you both
Neeve xx

Mandyluckypants · Post by **Mandyluckypants** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:02 pm

Wow Neeve you're on your 6th attempt like me! First attempt April for me fo many years, with 2nd husband, I got a BFP but had a missed miscarriage at approx 9 a half weeks, still cant believe it happened. But determined to keep trying, so here's to the next BFP!!!

mimi77 · Post by **mimi77** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 1:44 pm

neeve, when are you testing? care to share fertility issue? i try not to read too much into my physical feelings. so many of pregnancy symptoms are side effects of progesterone shots...plus i feel like it's too early to feel much. i spotted the day before my test both times i have been pregnant, but we'll see. i guess i do feel like it will be positive this time.

how about you?

mandyluckypants, again, sorry to read about your miscarriage. so hard to think of what might have been. my neighbor is having a baby in jan., when my miscarriage would have been due...i think it will be hard. just have to stay strong and trust in the process and in god's time. how are you feeling?

mimi

Neeve · Post by **Neeve** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:10 pm

Mimi my story is sad I got married August 2002 and stopped the pill just a couple of weeks prior to the wedding. As DH is 10 years older we wanted to start a family right away. When we came back from our honeymoon DH got an infection in his epididymus dont know how and was treated by our doctor. the thing is he was not treated correctly so the infection came back 3 months later and it has rendered him infertile. Basically his tubes are blocked. He produces sperm but it does not get through. It does my head in that I could have gotten pregnant all those years when we were going out! trust me to be sensible!!!
DH had a testicular biopsy in 2004 and this has been the hardest journey we have ever been through. I thought that I would get pregnant on my 1st attempt I really thought that this will be a piece of cake considering I have no fertility problems.. How wrong was I!!!!! So here I am cycle #6 who knows!! I am due to test on the 12/11. Hope I have not gone on too much what is your fertility issue?

Mandy I dont know how you keep you strength and how you continue after so many years you are an inspiration.
Anyway this is our route so we have to believe that this is the one I am with you both all the way and lets pray for the BFP's!!!!!!!!

Mandyluckypants · Post by **Mandyluckypants** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:47 pm

Mimi my due date was 24th January, we are making sure we are going to be away somewhere, Im dreading it to be honest. I just started a new job and there is someone tht is 15 weeks, Im so pleased for her but have had to lisen to her talk about symptoms, scans. The discussion around the office he other day was about how it must be awful to have to go through IVF and not be able to have childen naturally! I dont really know them all well enough to discuss such personal stuff. Although my manager is now aware.

God Neeve thats awful! Ive always been a stubborn madam so I dont believe I will give up unitl I believe its too late - when ever that is. Heres to lots of PMA and babydust to all! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

mimi77 · Post by **mimi77** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:44 pm

what a great group of ladies...how inspiring you both are.

mandyluckypants, some people speak without thinking...it's hard to listen to sometimes. especially when we are thinking all the things we are; how if we had done things differently this wouldn't be happening to us, or how we don't deserve kids; or if we were better at this or that, then we would get pregnant. so hard to not get something when all of our lives we've thought it was a god given right, but it's not, it's a blessing and we will get our blessings one way or another.

neeve, what a sad story, i am so sorry. if i may ask are you still using dh's sperm? i didn't get that part.

i see mlp is from france, where are you from neeve? does insurance cover any of your procedures and meds? we pay out of pocket for it all. i'm not sure how many more we can afford. my dh keeps saying this is it, and then changing his mind, he want children as much as i do, thankfully. we feel SO blessed to have our son, there was a long time we didn't think we would have any. i sometimes feel selfish for trying for another one, because i know how many people would just die for the one i have. however, i come from a family of 4 kids and have always wanted to be a mother and have a ton of kids. i'm blessed and get to stay home with our son and would love to give him the experience of a sibling. hopefully so.

fertility story: i discovered sortly after i got married that i had severe endometrosis. i had a cyst the size of a softball removed from my lt. ovary and was immediately sent to a fertility dr. we went through 5 iui's that were unsuccessful. we moved into my dh's parents house while we saved for ivf. we were extremely lucky when it worked the first time for us...hence our son. (dh has low sperm count and abnormal sperm). we decided to start trying to have another in dec of last year...started the process in feb. and you can see the stats...re says that we got really lucky with our son on first try and that it may have given us a false sense of security when it came to having more children. my lt. ovary was damaged from the surgery and doesn't respond well to meds. i also have low quality eggs that don't mate well with dh's sperm. all of our embies have been fair at best. but, so was our son and he couldn't be any more perfect. we like to tease and say he was hand picked. (ICSI)

well, enough about me. good to talk about it and hear others challenges too.

i'm really hoping and praying this works for the two of you, you both have been through so much. as hard as it all is, i can and will be happy with just our son if that is what god's plan is. i want that for the two of you too.

mimi

Neeve · Post by **Neeve** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:24 pm

HI Mimi yeah still using DH sperm but I cant help but wonder if my eggs or not of great quality my embryos are never perfect but I did have good quality ones in 2005 but it never worked dont figure!!. I am Irish but live in France DH is french. In France 4 IVF tries are covered and a try is only when you go to ET. I know it is fantastic but sometimes I think that in the States and England and even in Ireland that more care and study goes into individual cases when you are paying big fees. Where I am going is so impersonal it really is a cattle market I am just a number!!!
Not that I am complaining but if I was ever to vision doing this again I would consider Switzerland or mayby the states.

Anyway hopefully there will not be a next time and that we are all on the route to getting pregnant now!!!
Neeve xxx

Just starting 2WW, testing 15/11, care to join?

Just starting 2WW, testing 15/11, care to join?

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