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Mandy,
Af didn't waste any time coming to visit you. I had to wait about 5 days for her to get here after I stopped my hormones. I think she'll be gone tomorrow though. How are you holding up? Are you being good to yourself? When is your follow up with your RE?
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hello ladies ,
Well I did a hpt and it came out negative . Considering this is 12 days after ET the test is probably right . Unfortunately DH had to go to work tonight and since he's a cop he can't call in sick at the last minute . I should of listen to him and did it tomorrow morning when he came home.
I'm actually ok sad but ok . Dh and I had a good talk and we decided to adopt . Everything happens for a reason right .
Maybe we are just meant to rescue a child that is desperate need of a family . The more I think about it , why was I desperately trying to conceive when thousands of kids out there are looking for a family .
I know its not the same thing but I'm a dog rescuer and I've rescued dogs that were abused and neglected and it broke my heart when I picked them up . I now have 3 dogs and three cats and wouldn't give them up for the world. So If I feel like that about my animals can you imagine how I'll feel when I give a child a loving home. :wink:

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dream baby,
Welcome and lots of baby dust to you!
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Post by Magic Magin »

Wow thanks ladies! You are so supportive and it makes such a difference!

Neeve - my embryos were not good enough to withstand freezing...
How is everything with you? Cramps settled down?

Mlifp - test day tomorrow - fingers crossed for you.

Schel67 - This was our first try, ttc since 2001 and had 2 m/c from nat preg. The 7 embryos we had were not great quality, they recommended we put back 2 but we went for 1 as we don't want twins. I think we will have one more go next year but not sure I could take more than that as a little bit of my soul seems to have gone from this and the m/c. I think we will look at adoption of fostering if it doesn't work out next time and use our money and energies for that instead. There are so many children who need a good home.

Mandyluckypants - hope you are ok, is you AF normal or heavier after treatment? No sign of mine anywhere - does it take a while to come sometimes? I'm thinking of you, be kind to yourself...

Dreambaby - good luck to you too - I'll check in to see your BFP :lol:

Well I had a few drinks yesterday and am suffering a bit today but enjoyed the release at the time. Will stay on soft drinks today I think!

Thanks again and sorry if I missed anyone out...

MM
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Me 36, DH 34, ttc since 2001

Sept 03 nat preg m/c at 6 weeks

May 06 nat preg m/c at 7 weeks

Nov 07 - IVF with ICSI - BFN

Next appt 5th Feb to see where we go from there...
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Post by mimi77 »

i wanted to wish dreambaby and mlifp good luck today. baby dust your way!

mlifp, it sounds like you are prepared for the possiblity of a bfn. i still hope you are one of the MANY who show up those hpt's! i still haven't taken one because i am too scared to get a bfn! i have never seen a bpf on a hpt, so they scare me. take care of yourself and let us know how it goes today.

magic, i too don't have good quality embryo's but i have managed to get bfp 3 times. hang in there! there is no way to know how perfect a natural pregnancy embryo is on day 3 or 5 either. all 3 of my pregnancies were grade 3 with fragmentation and uneven cell division...it can happen. our son couldn't be any more perfect! be in touch and take care.

neeve, how are you feeling?

good to hear from you too schel67. are you on bc yet?

mimi
me-30 dh-30
endometriosis
ttc since 2003
5 failed IUI's
1st IVF 11/04-healthy BB!
2nd IVF 3/07 BFN
3rd IVF 5/07 BFP - miscarried @ 6wks
4th IVF BFN
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Hey ladies, just checkin in, I want to reply to a few post I just read but I will have to hold my comments for tomorrow since I am in considerable pain and on drugs right now. The RE dilated my cervix and did a sonogram today to check my uterus, then he put this device in my cervix that is expanding and dilates it more. I am suppose to take it out tomorrow. I think I need to try and let the drugs kick in and go to sleep now. TTYL
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Post by mimi77 »

oh, schel that sounds horrible. take care of yourself and let us know what's going on when you feel up to it.

mimi
me-30 dh-30
endometriosis
ttc since 2003
5 failed IUI's
1st IVF 11/04-healthy BB!
2nd IVF 3/07 BFN
3rd IVF 5/07 BFP - miscarried @ 6wks
4th IVF BFN
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schel67 -

i'm new to this post...just lurking because i received a bfp, but am expecting an early mc because my beta dropped from 135 to 69. yesterday this will be the second chem pregnancy for me. my first started with very low betas, but they doulbled...got up to 771, but i knew it was over because i was bleeding and passed some tissue...had us and they saw no evidence of pg. i am wondering what is going on....why the two chems....what are the odds this will work out?

i'm wondering what was that uterine test for? was it for diagnostic purposes?

thanks!
Me - 39 (one ovary) DH - 40 (OK)
IVF #1 7/07 - tx 1-3day BFP, chem
IVF #2 11/07- tx 1-3day BFP, chem
IVF #3 1/08 - tx 1-3day BFN
IVF #4 3/08 - tx 2-3day BFN
IVF #5 1/09 - CCRM tx 2 via ZIFT, BFP but M/C at 10 wks - chrom problem
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dcu917,
Yep, the test was diagnostic and I gotta get another one done fri cuz the RE wasn't sure if there is a polyp in my uterus or a blood clot that hasn't passed yet from AF. I think it was a blood clot, cuz I passed a big one this morning. I don't think he's gonna dilate my cervix again but I don't know. I think he's just dilating my cervix so my transfer goes smoother. Another thing I'm gonna be tested for is antiphosolipidemia and if the next transfer doesn't work maybe thrombophilia . Hubby will also get his little guys tests for chromosomal abnormalities. The RE and the nurses keep saying that over 50% chance there has been some sort of chromosomal abnormality that formed within the embryo as the embryo divided and that's what causes the majority of miscarragies. I think I wanna find out if I have anything to do with that possible other 50% reasons for miscarraige. What is you RE saying to you when you go in for follow up after a miscarraige. I think after a 3rd miscarriage they start looking into other possibilities. My RE just wanted to see my uterine cavity for himself, to make sure nothing was missed at my first saline sonogram and get measurments for a smooth transfer. I wish I could help you out with answers, but only God knows and I trust he knows whats best for us. I will continue to have faith. I will not give up hope. I'll put you in my prayers that your next BFP carries to full term and you hold that beautiful healthy baby in your arms.
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Post by Magic Magin »

Ooo shel67 you poor thing, sounds like you are having an awful time. I tell you I'm coming back as a spoilt pampered cat next time and a male one at that!

Take care of yourself... thinking of you...

How is everyone else, any results in???

Love to you all...

MM
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Me 36, DH 34, ttc since 2001

Sept 03 nat preg m/c at 6 weeks

May 06 nat preg m/c at 7 weeks

Nov 07 - IVF with ICSI - BFN

Next appt 5th Feb to see where we go from there...
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Post by mimi77 »

just checking in. you ladies have all been through so much and as my doctor said to me yesterday "can't fault you for not trying". we had our u/s yesterday...there is one bun in oven. the doctor said everything looked "appropriate" and we were even able to see and hear the heartbeat. 99bpm. i am very excited, but also still scared. it's nice to have that behind us and try to look ahead to the second u/s in two weeks. i have been feeling some morning sickness and have lost my appetite, but other than that i feel normal. i still can't believe it.

i think about you all often and thank you so much for all your prayers and support.

mimi
me-30 dh-30
endometriosis
ttc since 2003
5 failed IUI's
1st IVF 11/04-healthy BB!
2nd IVF 3/07 BFN
3rd IVF 5/07 BFP - miscarried @ 6wks
4th IVF BFN
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Post by dcu917 »

schel67,

just getting back to you on my appt. my RE did not recommend genetic, blood clotting disorder, or antibody testing at this point (i do not know the ones you listed). i asked about those tests and more and he said that if it was his wife or his sister, he would not recommend it to them. he said that per textbook, it is usually done with 3 m/cs. he also said that he would be more concerned if it happened after a fetal heartbeat was confirmed. he said if i really want the tests, he would do it, but he recommended against it, so i left it at that. but now i am still wondering?

he wants me to start taking baby asprin for the next time....he said even if i had a blood clotting disorder, this would take care of that (except in the most extreme cases). i asked if we should be testing my progesterone level...he said that he would recommend that i go on the progesterone shots this time because with that, you can monitor the blood.....with the suppositories the progesterone goes directly to the uterus and doesn't get in the blood...and there is no way of testing for it. so, at least this time we will check that...i'm nervous about that needle, however. as for the potential for this to happen again, he said that he doesn't think that is the case.

there is one other issue that could be contributing. i have a unicornuate uterus. when i was born, only half my uterus developed. in addition, i have one ovary that they can see on the vaginal us and have one "undecended ovary"....whatever that means. my estradiol was higher than expected for the 7 eggs they got out of my one ovary. i asked if that could have contributed to the early mc...he said that is unlikely, but the fact that i have a unicornuate uterus could have an impact, although he said it was unlikely,too. i asked him several times if we should be doing more testing on my uterus and he said no every time! that is why i asked about your testing.

so, as you can bet, my head is spinning about this. if it's not this, and it's not that, what is it!!!! it seems like they don't want to spend much time figuring out the problem and just want to try to get you pregnant.

i agree about putting it in God's hands...and i want to believe that things work out for the best. i will keep you in my prayers, too !!! thanks so much for your reply!!!
Me - 39 (one ovary) DH - 40 (OK)
IVF #1 7/07 - tx 1-3day BFP, chem
IVF #2 11/07- tx 1-3day BFP, chem
IVF #3 1/08 - tx 1-3day BFN
IVF #4 3/08 - tx 2-3day BFN
IVF #5 1/09 - CCRM tx 2 via ZIFT, BFP but M/C at 10 wks - chrom problem
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Heeeellllooooo most fabulous ladies (each and every one on this message board),

First off I want to wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving for tomorrow. I am thankful for my life and the wonderful blessings that fill it. You all are a major blessing in my life. I wish you much joy on this holiday.

Second, I want to let everyone here know that I am no longer in any pain from the saline sonogram, it was only for the rest of the day and that night. Thank goodness cuz I had to mae lots of pies yesterday. Anyway, I go back Friday to have it done again.....oh joy....NOT! I DO think it is for my benifit though, so I'm actually not resistant to having it done again. Anything, to help get me that BFP I desire. A transfer on Dec. 7th is the plan so far.

Third, I said before I wanted to comment on a post but couldn't at the time. This is for Magic Magin ], Ok, for your next transfer I believe you need to reconsider the number of embryos transfered. You said you only transfered 1 because you didn't want twins. While, it is true that there is a possibility of twins, more of the reality is they transfer 2 in hopes that ONE will attach and grow. The more embryos that get transfered increases your chances that at LEAST ONE will get you pregnant. My question to you is, which odds do you like more.....the Possibility of 2 babies and a better chance at getting one baby OR the possibility of 1 baby with the only other chance of no baby at all if it doesn't attach or continue to grow? I am just asking and giving you more information to consider for your next embie transfer when you come back as a spoiled male pampered cat..[/b] :)

Mimi,
That's great news about the US. It must have been so exciting to see the babies heart beat. I'll keep you n my prayers. Something to ponder..... does eating Turkey make the embryo sleepy too? :lol:

Mlifp,
I'm so sorry dear that is was a BFN on the HPT. I actually don't think day 12 was a reliable test day though. day 14 would be optimal test day. But my heart goes out to you. If you and your hubby feel you could give a needing child a loving home and family, then you should go for it. You know, you could always foster adopt and also do another IVF and chances are you would get pregnant cuz that pressure to have a child would be gone...I hear it happens all the time. ..something to think about.
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dcu917,
I just read yur post after I already posted my messages. I want to reply but I need to get back to you tonight. Gotta go now TTYL
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Post by Neeve »

Hi guys It has been a while since I have posted I have read up and I am so sorry to all that it has not worked for I know the pain but I am a big believer of not giving up no matter how hard it is I believe that our babies are out it is just taking longer than others.
It sounds like you have been through the mill Schel so painful but you are right to do anything that you can for it to work. My fingers are crossed for the 7th December a BFPs for Christmas is just what you need and deserve.
Magic I must admit I agree with Schell I would consider transferring more than one for all the reasons that she states. This was my 6th cycle and I had 4 embryos 2 ok and 2 not so ok the cells were uneven in all of the embryos. When I went for ET they said that they would put 3 back but I said but all 4 and now here I am 5 weeks pregnant. I will find out tomorrow if its 1 or 2, but do you know if it is only one I will never know which one stuck so really more embryos means more chance and I will always be so happy I made the decision to put them all back. In saying that it really is so important that you feel comfortable in what you are doing.

Mlifp I am so sorry it has not worked and I think it is a good idea to look into adoption at the same time as you are doing your next IVF. You hear so many positive stories that as soon as the woman is thinking of other angles the procedure works. I must admit I bought an adoption book in September and I had been looking into it during this last IVF for me it really was a case of this being my last go, it goes to show.

Mimi I am so excited for you that you you saw the babies heart beat it must have been amazing. I am going in tomorrow for my scan so hopfully I will see the babies heartbeat but it might be too early?? My Beta has gone up to 6451 I reckon it is only 1 but it could still be 2. What were your betas? I know what you mean though it is so nerve recking I am also scared of MC but positive thinking is the most important and of course confidence in our bodies that they are doing what they should do.


Anyway guys I am thinking of you and sending lots of positive thoughts and baby dust it is a very long jouney but we can all get there in the end.

LOL Neeve xxxxxxx
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