IVF Buddie? Started Gonal 11/23

Lisa1222 · Post by **Lisa1222** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:49 pm

Amy-
I'm so sorry for you. You never know how you'll feel in the future and if you choose to transfer at a later time, your embies will be there. It's a very personal decision as to how many times you can go through this process and only YOU know how much you can take. But just realize that you can change your mind at a later time. No decision ever has to be final. You're in my thoughts and prayers.

brenda3 · Post by **brenda3** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:24 am

Ladies

Good luck today and BABY DUST to all of us

. I had a call yesterday from the lab and they said they wanted to do a 5 day transfer vs the 3 day transfer as to why they said that all my embies looked so good that wanted to make sure that they transfer back the best 2 and they would have to grow a couple more days. They cell growth yesterday was 5- were 2 celled 1 was 3 celled 2 were 4 celled and 1 was 5 celled.
I spoke with the director of the lab and they had my age as 32 instead of 38 and that I would only transfer 2 embies which I am transfering 4 ( repeated miscarriages I have had due to chromo problems). So the director said day 3 transfer would work out best for me not day 5.

This worries me! Has anyone else dealt with this??

I think I am the last one to do my transfer today at 2:00pm so best wishes to all. It would be wonderful if we could all get BFP in two weeks.
Brenda

AmyC123 · Post by **AmyC123** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:09 pm

Brenda, I think that is good news. With a 5 day transfer, they will be less likely to send in embryos that are not going to make it so you have a better shot of having healthy and viable embryos!

As for me, I am glad that I have some frozen so that I can have a choice in the future but am still not wanting to go ahead with a frozen cycle. For one, it is very expensive and the success rate is only around 30%. Also, it is similar to the fresh cycle in that you have daily injections and hormones, etc. The doctors have been unable to say why my husband and I cannot concieve. I have a child from a previous marriage who is 7 and my husbands sperm count is very high and healthy. Given this fact, we apparently have around a 20% chance of concieving in any given month just on our own. Obviously this has not gone in our favor, but I just think that if I get the emotional wherewithall to go forward again, a frozen cycle would be a poor choice because of the physical, emotional and financial committment and not much better chance of success for us. My RE had told us that IVF would give us a 50-60% chance, so we went forward with that solely to get a shot at such good odds.

Good luck to all who are transferring today! I will pray for sticky babies!

phoebe · Post by **phoebe** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:09 am

Amy,
Sorry to hear about your situation. Like Lisa said, if you change your mind laer, you'll have embies.

How did everyone's transfers go? Mine went well. We got to see a picture of our 2 embies and watch as they went in. Does anyone know the difference of the transfer date? Like why they transfer earlier? The nurse told me that we did mine early because I only had 2 embies. One was a 4 cell and the other a 2. I've been taking it easy and laying around the house relaxing. I plan to do that the whole weekend...until I go back to work on Monday. Let me know if anyone knows about transfer times...2, 4, 8 cell etc. Thanks!! Praying for a BFP for all of us!!!

Lisa1222 · Post by **Lisa1222** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 12:29 am

I'm not sure about the cell count and why they transfer on different days. Brenda kind of had a similar question and I wasn't sure how to answer that one either. I've been trying to research the board to see if anyone else had similar questions because I was wondering what quality my embies were. I transferred one 8 cell and one 7 cell and they were described as "beautiful".

I was totally miserable during the transfer. They instruct you to come to the clinic with a full bladder so they can visualize the uterus on abdominal u/s. I thought I was going to die during the whole thing because the nurse was pressing down right on my bladder with the u/s probe, and the speculum was killing me. I was practically in tears. I felt like I was doing lamaze breathing the whole time just to get through it. Then they made me wait 20 minutes before letting me pee on a bedpan. And wouldn't you know I had massive stagefright. Finally they had to move my stretcher down to the end away from the other patient to give me more privacy. Just thought I'd bring a little laugh to everyone.

The dreaded 2ww is here. Sticky babies for everyone.

phoebe · Post by **phoebe** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 1:32 am

Hey Lisa,

Sorry to hear that you were so uncomfortable. I read somewhere that Dr.'s like you to have a full bladder. My experience was opposite. They had me use the bathroom right before the procedure. They used a vaginal ultrasound. It was a little uncomfortable but not too bad. At least it is done. Glad that everything went well!

brenda3 · Post by **brenda3** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:24 pm

Hi,

all went well with my transfer yesterday they transfered 4 embies 1 compacting, 2 - 8cell no frag. and 1 - 7cell very small frag. The Lab person and RE said they were perfect. I was still very crampy from the ER so I hope that doesn't effect anything. I have been laying in bed since yesterday and had to get up to see how everything went with you all.
They froze 4 embies and are waiting to see on one more if it makes it to blast to freeze tomorrow.

I was supposed to have a full bladder but it was not full according to u/s I thought that the pressure I was feeling was a full bladder but it was still soreness from the ER.

Now comes the dreaded 2ww. I talked my RE into doing my BETA on the 19th instead of the 21st. So I will know two days earlier.

Countdown to beta 11 days!!!!!

It would be a wonderful Christmas present for all of us to have BFP's
Brenda

brenda3 · Post by **brenda3** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:36 pm

Phoebe and Lisa,

I wanted to ask if you plan on taking a HPT? From what I read you can get a postive 10-12 days after HCG injection with a very sensitive test. I ordered tests off of a web site early-pregnancy-tests.com they are able to get postive results at 25 units (which is the most sensitive test out there except blood test) The only thing is you have to make sure the HCG is out of your system. I am going to try to take one to get a negative result (assuring that HCG is out ) then test at maybe day 8pt. My DH doesn't want me to do any HPT so I am talking with him about it.

Brenda

Lisa1222 · Post by **Lisa1222** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 6:53 pm

Brenda-
I wasn't planning on POAS. I'm having beta test on 21st, the day before my birthday. I don't want to psych myself out one way or the other and to be honest, I work nights 3 or 4 days in a row 12 hour shifts, so I usually do nothing but work and sleep for much of my week. So to me, it will really fly by. Plus with getting ready for Christmas, decorating, shopping, wrapping, cooking, I probably won't have time to think about it. So I'm just going to wait. At least that's my philosophy for now. It may change, but knowing myself, I doubt it. More power to you if you can find out earlier. I think Phoebe was testing on the 15th and 17th so she'll find out before either of us. Hope you're feeling better. BTW, what is a "compacting" embryo?

phoebe · Post by **phoebe** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 7:10 pm

Hey Brenda and Lisa,

How are you guys feeling? I hope all your cramps and stuff have gone away.
I've thought about taking a HPT, but I read that I could get a false positive because of the trigger shot. Brenda, let me know if you decide to do one. I think it's too late for me to order the sensitive ones. I'm going to just try to keep myself occupied until the 17th. I'll have family visiting plus I go back to work on Monday. Hopefully, it will help pass the time. Do you guys feel any different? Do you know when implantation is supposed to happen?

brenda3 · Post by **brenda3** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:15 pm

Phoebe - I think implantation takes place on 5 day transfer 24-48 hours after transfer. (thats what the clinic told me after I did a 5 day FET few months ago) So it would be with in 3-4 days after 3day transfer (Don't hold me to it)

Lisa - Sounds like you will be really busy so it should take take your mind off it.
Brenda

Lisa1222 · Post by **Lisa1222** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:47 pm

Phoebe- I agree with Brenda about implantation. Information on this website says that implantation happens about 7 days after fertilization which in our case is the day of retrieval. So that would make it about 3-4 days after 3DT I'm thinking.

I'm feeling better, was on my feet a bit today but still have a fair amount of tenderness in the lower belly. No particular cramping. I'm still planning on taking it pretty easy until I have to go back to work on Tuesday.

phoebe · Post by **phoebe** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:26 pm

How are you guys doing? I'm back at work today. I'm trying to stay positive and relax as much as possible. I'm going a little crazy with the wait! I'm so scared to find out!! I want it to be positive but I'm scared!!! Ahhhh! Only 6 more days for me.

brenda3 · Post by **brenda3** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:36 am

Hey guys,

How are you all feeling? I am feeling the side effects of the progestrone injections- bloating, fullness and having to pee all the time.
Wanted to check with you but I am having alot of cramping. anyone know if this is a bad thing? I thought that progestrone was supposed to relax the uterus. Mine is off and on but making me worry. This wait is horrible. I have one week to go till testing (allowing me to test at 12pt).

Are you all keeping busy or do you think about it all the time like me?

Brenda

Lisa1222 · Post by **Lisa1222** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:40 pm

Brenda- I won't lie to you...I think about it quite a bit, but I'm really trying not to read into every little feeling and sensation as being either positive or negative. However, I've been feeling a twinging sensation for the last few days in two different areas of my abdomen...always the same two places and frequently throughout the day. They are not cramps per say and not terribly uncomfortable, almost like a stitch in your side if you run too hard. I keep thinking that it might be implantation that I'm feeling...two embryos transferred, two different locations of twinging...hmmmmm? Maybe? That's the only thing that's got my interest peaked into obsession. PIO shots haven't been too bad...I guess my only real symptom is peeing more...but I wasn't aware that was a symptom of PIO but it would make sense. I'm not sure what to tell you about cramping. I thought that cramping could be a sign of implantation which is around the right time but I'm not sure the degree to which you should feel cramping.

Other than the aforementioned, I'm actually feeling great. I'm 100% back to normal post hospitalization and/or ER but wasn't fully recovered until Monday. It took forever but my DH took really good care of me.

Phoebe-How are you feeling being back to work? Is it helping to keep your mind off things? I'm jealous that you get to test so early. My clinic just has a 14 day post transfer b/w policy I guess but I'm not sure when I would even have the HCG shot out of my system if I wanted to POAS.

Anyway, the wait isn't that long for any of us...I know we can make it.

IVF Buddie? Started Gonal 11/23

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