IVF Buddie? Started Gonal 11/23

phoebe · Post by **phoebe** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:45 pm

I don't really feel that different. I don't have any significant cramping. I did notice that I am waking up in the middle of the night to pee more often...but I didn't know that it was a side effect. Last night, I was really tired and went to bed at 7:30...but I think it's because I can't have any caffeine plus I don't get much sleep because of the pain from the shots! Is it too early for us to "feel different"? I wish there was a sign that implantation took place!
My cousin is coming in from Arizona today so that should keep me occupied till Monday. Being back at work has helped to pass the time...at least I'm not laying in bed bored all day.

brenda3 · Post by **brenda3** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:52 pm

Phoebe and Lisa

I broke down the other day and did the HPT to see if all the HCG was out of my system from the shot and it came back neg (which was good so at least I know the shot is out) But as you all know we are 7dp3dt and did another HPT this morning and it was a BFN. I read on another reply that usually the earliest you can see is 8dp3dt. so I will try again tomorrow. I know that the HPT's are the devil but I can't help myself. I guess it will help me prepare myself if the BETA is neg.

Phoebe 3 days till your Beta
Me 5 days till Beta
Lisa 7 days till Beta

Praying for good news for all of us!!!!!

Lisa1222 · Post by **Lisa1222** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:34 pm

Brenda-
I'm so scared to do HPT. I just keep thinking pregnant until proven otherwise. I'm treating my body as if I'm pregnant, no drinking, aspirin, caffeine, etc. and I feel like if I just keep that mindset that everything will go my way. Of course, that's the mindset I've had every month for the last two years and it hasn't worked out. This is certainly the closest I've been to being pregnant with decent looking eggs/embryos since other pregnancies were blighted ovum and chemical...I have to think there was something wrong with them. But time will tell. I will be celebrating my birthday the same day as beta test as I am supposed to work on my birthday the next day. So I'm hoping that my celebration doesn't get dumped on.

Please, please, please, please let us all have good news.

phoebe · Post by **phoebe** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:22 pm

I haven't broken down yet...no HPT for me. I've been busy because my cousin is in town, and my other cousin just came in today. Plus, with the holidays here, I've just been busy.
I still don't feel very different...just tired because I haven't had any caffeine.

I was tortured at dinner for the last 2 nights because I can't eat raw fish.

Do you guys feel different? Are we supposed to be able to feel any symptoms this early? I'm so excited yet afraid to find out. I am also in a lot of pain from the progesterone shots.
I am still praying for BFP's for ALL of us!!!!

brenda3 · Post by **brenda3** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:18 am

Lisa I hope you have a wonderful suprise for your 38th birthday. We will all be waiting to hear how your testing and your special evening goes.

Phoebe I don't feel any different - The shots are HORRIBLE this time around I don't know what my husband is doing but I have lumps and brusies very tender. I was on shots with my first IVF and my FET they didn't seem that bad but now they are. I don't do the caffine thing except every once in a while a diet coke. I try to eat healthy and watch what I am doing but with the holidays my husband has been baking up a storm (I love to cook but can't bake, so he does)

Phoebe you will be the first to go on Monday so I hope that it is good news and you spread all your good vibes to Lisa and I. Have a good time with your cousins. I wish I was in Hawaii right now!!!!!! We are getting ready to have a snow storm tomorrow and Sunday 9-15 inches in 2 days. I could use the sunshine.

phoebe · Post by **phoebe** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:40 am

Haha! Sunshine? Just had to tell you that it has been raining!! We had a storm last week and it knocked out our power all day...a lot of schools were closed...but not mine. I had to go to work. Anyway, you guys take it easy and relax over the weekend. I'll keep you posted...I'm keeping my fingers and toes crossed!!

Lisa1222 · Post by **Lisa1222** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:58 am

Hey guys. I'm sorry you are both having so much discomfort with the PIO shots. I was so scared the first day my DH gave it to me and I'm never afraid of needles...but this needle is a whopper. I'm using a numbing cream called LMX that I put on 30 minutes before he does the shot so I don't really feel anything at all. I have some tenderness at the sites (we're using upper outer quadrant of both buttocks) but no bruising or lumps. Now, what I wonder is are you guys really slim? Because I've got a butt on me...and I wonder if that's making a difference in my lack of discomfort? Just a thought. Phoebe- I can't believe it's almost time for you to test already...I'm so jealous. All you have to do is get through this weekend which should be a breeze with your family being in town.

Positive thoughts everyone...ok!

Lisa1222 · Post by **Lisa1222** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:48 pm

Brenda- Did you HPT again? I've been having cramps on and off since yesterday and I was starting to get nervous, but I started reading some other posts on the other threads and a lot of people had BFPs while cramping during the 2ww so I feel a little better. If you still have a BFN on HPT today, I still wouldn't worry yet. Even though you're using a really sensitive test I've heard of people having really low betas their first test which probably wouldn't even show up on a HPT but resulted in viable pregnancies. Take a look at this chart. It may make you feel better, just in case.

http://www.betabase.info/showBasicChart.php?type=Single

Keep us posted.

brenda3 · Post by **brenda3** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:23 pm

Lisa

Yes I tested this morning and it was a BFN again. Even if I get a very low Beta it would most likely be a chemical pregnancy (I had one with my FET) I know from the several miscarriages that I have had that with me low beta numbers ALWAYS resulted in a miscarry.
I researched on the internet and found 2 studies that were done with ART patients and they said that at 12dpt if you don't have a beta # of 125 there is a 95% change not viable pregnancy and 14dpt your beta # should be at least 200.

My HPT measures at 20 so things I think are just not looking good for me. At least I may have another chance with my 4 frozen embies. RE said that usually if fresh cycle from same batch doesn't implant then the chance of frozen embies implanting really drops.

Best of Luck to you tomorrow PHOEBE!!!!!!

Lisa1222 · Post by **Lisa1222** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:29 pm

Brenda- The only other hope I can offer you is that I've read many a post on other message boards where people swear that those internet purchased tests are unreliable. They say that First Response Early Result and Clear Blue Easy digital tests are more reliable. I just wouldn't lose all hope yet even if those tests say they'll pick up HCG of 20 because if the tests are crappy quality, they may not pick anything up at all. Beta is on Wednesday right? Just try with all your might to stay positive. I know it's hard.

phoebe · Post by **phoebe** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:20 pm

Hi Lisa and Brenda...

I just have to get through today and tomorrow. My appointment is at 10 but I don't find out till the afternoon. I feel like I want to do a HPT in the morning so that if it is a BFN I can at least be prepared for the phone call. I don't know...it would only be 11 dpt. Is that enough time for a HPT to pick anything up? Anyway, just stay positive everyone!! I know it's hard...I'm so scared yet excited!

Lisa1222 · Post by **Lisa1222** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:48 pm

Good luck today Phoebe. Let us know what happens.

Lisa1222 · Post by **Lisa1222** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:27 pm

Update ladies... I started having some very scant brown spotting yesterday...not even enough for a pantyliner, but similar to what I get before AF...plus some cramping on and off for a few days. So I called my clinic and they moved my beta up to tomorrow morning. So I'm really scared. I'm not sure why the big urgency to move up the beta except to stop me from having to obsess until Friday. The nurse said all the same things that I read on all the message boards, that people cramp and bleed and still have BFPs but she warned me to be cautiously optimistic. She said if is was a BFP that the number would probably be pretty low since it was early...5 or less at my clinic is considered BFN so I have to hope for better than that. At least if I have a low number, they will retest before the weekend to see if the number doubles rather than having to wait until after Christmas. But I'm still really worried.

Phoebe- Hope you get some good news.
Brenda- How you holding up?

brenda3 · Post by **brenda3** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:24 pm

Lisa
The brown spotting may just be from implantation. But I would be worried also if it were me. Hope you get good news tomorrow.

I did another HPT and once again a BFN. So I am not holding much hope for my beta and focusing on another frozen cycle. I am not going to do any other treatment after that. It has been so stressful for me that half the time I feel like I am losing my mind.

Phoebe

Let us know how your BETA went today!!!

Looking forward to hearing good news from both of you!!!!!

phoebe · Post by **phoebe** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:52 pm

I'm still waiting to hear from my Dr.

Lisa,
I hope everything goes well today. Let us know.

Brenda,
I know it's hard, but try to stay positive. I totally know what you mean about losing your mind. It is emotionally draining.

IVF Buddie? Started Gonal 11/23

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