Failed IVF

favoured · Post by **favoured** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:07 pm

Hi everyone,

I just had a failed IVF. Transferred 3 4 cell embies, 1 top quality and 2 good ones. I was so positive they will all take but only to find out two days ago that no one took. My question is when is it advisable to try again and two, is it so difficult to do it once and succeed. How many times do we have to it before the chances to succeed are great bearing that its not cheap at all and it is privately funded.
Has anyone who is 39 years got it right the first time. I need to know to determine whether it will ever work for me.

TTC since 2004
Age 40 in March 08
DH 42
IVF - 1 cycle

TammyS · Post by **TammyS** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:14 pm

I am not sure when you can try again...as I am new to IVF at 39 1/2 too. I just wanted to say ...that I am very sorry and that I am hoping that it will work for you next time. Dont give up. Stay strong.

Edel · Post by **Edel** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:25 pm

Hi there

I too just have my first IVF and it failed, i did test positive on day 16 but then started to bleed and then tested negative a week or so later, i was told it was a chemical pregnancy (very early miscarraige). I understand your upset and anxiety as i am also waiting to start again, my clinic just told me to come in on 21st for a review and to see when we want to start again. I dont think there is a set time frame. Although from all the information the clinic gave us is that the best time to start is within in your next few cycles which will give the body and mind a bit of time to get back to some normality, recharge the batteries as such. Age is a factor for me too but all we can do is keep trying and i have heard of many women concieving successfully through IVF into their 40's so please dont worry.

Also just to put your mind at rest the statistics we were informed about is that achieving pregnancy on the first attempt of IVF is quite low, probably because its all so new to the body and all the trama it goes through. The good news is the statistics of success are more than double for second time around so dont loose heart it just wasnt our time yet.

Take this time inbetween to try and relax a bit if you can, i know it is hard but with each day you will find new strength and remember where there is life there is hope so its not over for either of us.

Hugs & babydust

Marcella

favoured wrote:Hi everyone,
I just had a failed IVF. Transferred 3 4 cell embies, 1 top quality and 2 good ones. I was so positive they will all take but only to find out two days ago that no one took. My question is when is it advisable to try again and two, is it so difficult to do it once and succeed. How many times do we have to it before the chances to succeed are great bearing that its not cheap at all and it is privately funded.
Has anyone who is 39 years got it right the first time. I need to know to determine whether it will ever work for me.

TTC since 2004
Age 40 in March 08
DH 42
IVF - 1 cycle

cornybaby · Post by **cornybaby** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:12 pm

Hi favoured...sorry it didn't work for you this time. I know how you feel, as I just finished my first failed cycle in November. My RE is making us wait for one full natural cycle before we try again. In other words, I stopped progesterone, had a period, then had to wait to get another natural period before I start my BCP again for the next try. A couple of things I have learned:

1) it is very likely your period will come late in between. Mine is now 11 days late and still counting...

2) the first time around is very much a "trial run". I've found that REs tend to start everyone out on the same protocol (if baseline b/w is considered normal), and that protocol just doesn't work for some. After the first try, they can make lots of adjustments to get it right the next time.

I have a totally different mindset going into my 2nd try. Now that I know what to expect I am a lot less stressed, which I believe will help. I also know that my RE has made drastic changes to my protocol in order to get me to respond better.

hang in there girl, your angels are just trying to figure out their timing.

hugs and babydust,
cornybaby

tinaO · Post by **tinaO** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:43 pm

favoured - Hi! I just wanted to post and tell you to try to keep up the positive attitude!! I know it is difficult as I certainly struggled after trying for 1 1/2 years to get pregnant and then going through 2 failed IUI's, but my first try at IVF at age 37 worked! I am now 7 weeks pregnant and we were able to hear the heartbeat yesterday. We put in 2 eight-cell embryos (one was rated an A and the other a B) and we were blessed that it worked on our first try. I truly believe that my husband's constant positive thinking really helped me and I was reading the book, "The Secret" that really helps you to understand the need for thinking positive and focuing on what you want to achieve as if you already have it.

Also, check out the following web site: http://www.tearsandhope.com/emptyarms_video.html
It was created for couples going through IVF to share with their friends to help them to understand what they are going through. It is a total tear jerker, but really made me think that I am not alone as I was going through all this infertility stuff and also the message in the end I think is powerful. You will get there. It doesn't always happen as soon as we want, but you will get there. You may not know the way just yet, but you will get there. I remember when we had our second failed IUI, I found out my college roommate was pregnant the month after she got married (yep, after just a month of trying!), my neighbor was pregnant, and then my grad school roommate finally broke down and told me she was 6 months pregnant with her 2nd and didn't have the heart to tell me until now. I was devastated and cried my eyes out. I felt like such a failure...which is soooo stupid!!! My point is that you have to believe and think positive. You will get there. I can't believe now that I started to doubt so much myself and now here I am...7 weeks pregnant.

I wish you the very, very best. I hope the next round is the one for you!!!

Kabillion · Post by **Kabillion** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:49 pm

I had a successful IVF the first time at age 38. Where are you located??? Make sure you go to a good clinic with good statistics. That is very important. I've seen many of people go to a local IVF where I live and have no success but then drive a little further to a better stats clinic to have successful IVFs. Good Luck!

dcu917 · Post by **dcu917** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:05 am

Hi favoured....I know how you feel. I turned 38 in Sept 07. I had a positive result for the two IVFs we've tried. I unfortunately had biochemical pregnancies both times. The first started with a low beta that doubled until the 1st US, then dropped off and had an m/c. The second started with a great beta that didn't double (needless to say this was the hardest because it all seemed great one day then I got crushed the next). I'm saying some prayers for us that we are blessed in 2008!

Kabillion - my clinic's success rates are as follows for 38-40 y/o: 28% of cycles resulting in pregnancies, 22.7% resulting in live births. I did a few searches for other clinics in NY, etc, and found that the majority are worse than mine, but some were much better. For example, NYU Fertility Center had sucess rates of 37.3% resulting in pregnancy and 28.5% resulting in live births for the 38-40 y/o group. What is your opinion on this? I remember someone posted that they traveled to Colorado (I think) because that clinic had the best success rates in the US. I'm trying to figure out what is the best approach. I am about to start my 3rd fresh cycle...on bcp's now.

Thanks,
Diane

TammyS · Post by **TammyS** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:53 am

Someone else said Colorado too...I wonder if there is something to the higher elevation!?

Ghost · Post by **Ghost** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:57 am

TammyS wrote:Someone else said Colorado too...I wonder if there is something to the higher elevation!?

The clinic in Englewood Colorado has the highest pregnancy rates in the world.

If anything, the higher elevation would make it slightly harder to get proper pH in growth media. At that altitude they probably have to keep the CO2 in the 7.5% range.

I understand Colorado has an outstanding embryology lab.

Clinics do not all treat the same set of patients. Patient selection is an easy way to increase pregnancy rates. Will they let a 33-year old patient with FSH=17 go through non-donor IVF? Will they let them try multiple times? Screening out patients with poor prognosis, perhaps by steering them straight into donor cycles, is one way to boost rates.

favoured · Post by **favoured** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:16 am

Many thanks for all the replies. I am thinking of changing to another ivf center though, for better luck. Someone told me about the statistics of the new center which I think is worth trying. I just want to increase my rate of success. What does anyone think?

Angel505 · Post by **Angel505** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:42 pm

Hi,

Just wanted to say that I have just been through a failed IVF cycle. I feel devastated as we were assured every step of the way that things were going smoothly. I'm afraid I'm not handling things too well. Even though I was fully aware that there is a possibility of it not working, I was positive that it would work. I agree it doesn't help when people around you are getting pregnant in no time. I have to go see a friend who just got a baby.

It was good to hear from the encouraging words of others on this thread. Will try to keep positive and go for a next cycle.

hopin4ababy · Post by **hopin4ababy** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:25 pm

Favoured,
I too just went through a failed IVF cycle. It is hard, but it just means it wasn't your time. Everyone I know that has gotten pregnant through IVF, it has been on the second, third or fourth attempt. So stay positive, I know it is expensive, but just don't give up!

I know all too well about feeling like it is happening to everyone but me; I am one of six children and I was the second to get married. I got married in 2003 and we started trying in August of 2005. Since we have started trying there have been 4 babies born to my siblings! All of which got married after me! Two of my girlfriends got pregnant, unplanned and 12 of my friends have had babies at will!! And I just found out a couple of weeks ago that one of my sisters is pregnant for a second time!

I would not wish infertility on anyone, so I try to be happy for those who are having the families they want, and for those who are getting a family they didn't know they wanted until it happened to them! I try to think of my failed cycle as gods way of protecting me because the timing isn't right.

A friend of the family just had a baby girl last summer, they had been trying for 10 years! She tried IVF 4 times and was only successful 2 times, and wasn't able to carry the baby to term both times. She got pregnant 2 times on her own but again wasn't able to carry the baby to term. After a separation in their marriage, and counselling and ten years of infertility they just accepted they weren't going to have kids. A few months later she was pregnant, naturally and carried to term! Who knows why things happen the way they do, but don't lose hope!

beachbaby · Post by **beachbaby** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:08 pm

Hi ladies, i just want to give you all hope and not to give up.

i too failed at my first IVF, i think we all forget the statistics once we are in treatment and think ours will be the one that works. what we all seem to forget is that the average success rate is 25-30% per cycle, which are not great odds when you look at it, but due to what we go through and what our Dr's tell us we think ours is the one that will work and the downer when it doesn't is heartbreaking.
please take your strength forward and try again, the first try can be a lot of trial and error, the dr now knows how you react and can adjust your meds accordingly to give you a greater chance.
please believe you can get pregnant, some of us just have a greater journey to get our wish.
I have everything crossed for you all and wish you well in your journey.

Diane, glad to see your on your way again, keep me posted how your getting on.
jayne

brenda3 · Post by **brenda3** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:30 am

I also just completed my 2nd IVF cycle and 1 frozen cycle BFN right before Christmas. I have enough frozen embies left for another frozen cycle that I plan on doing transfer end of March. It is very discouraging for as I was doing my 2ww with 2 other ladies on this site and they both had BFP's , My sister is pregnant as are 2 of my nieces. At 38 years old I just feel that time is running out and it is now or never. But each BFN is so stressful and makes you wonder when or if will it work???????

Anyone know what success rates are if your fresh cycle didn't work will the frozen cycle have any chance??????????

beachbaby · Post by **beachbaby** » Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:08 pm

Brenda, just to give you hope, I failed on my fresh cycle, and on my following 2 FET's got very low positives ending in bio-chemicals, further tests showed i have factor V leiden which causes early miscarriage. On my 3rd FET i did exactly the same protocol but added 75mg aspirin per day, this has resulted in me now being 12 weeks pregnant with twins, both embryo's took.
please keep the faith and good luck with your next cycle.

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